If all you want is a browser without all the extra crap, use MOZILLA and not NETSCAPE.
Why did I talk about Netscape? Because the article was about Netscape. I have used Mozilla as well, and it has it's own set of pros and cons. And yeah, you're right, it will end up the better product.
I personally just can't wait till they're both at final release. Beta is just a tease!
Then you want Konqueror. It loads up in the blink of an eye (IE-like speeds), it's fast, and looks nice.
Oh, I've used Konq before. It's is downright nice and fast. But then again, the day my boss lets me install anything other than Windoze on my machines here at work, hell will have frozen over, and hey, then I can use it.
Hey, I'm impressed that you can get PR2 to run at all. When I try to run it on Win98 all I get is the splash screen and then it just hangs forever until I kill it.
I'm using win2k to try it out here . . . haven't tried it on my win98 box at home yet, though. Amazingly, I used it for almost half an hour without a crash, and I ended up exiting it because it was too slow to read all my/. articles on.
Go figure, PR1 was fast but unstable for me, this one is the opposite.
Good software interface design always dictates that the only events that should happen are events that the user requests to happen. Thus, when I start a program and get spammed with several windows that I could easily acces eslewhere, this is bad design. Go read an interface design textbook.
If all you wanted was a browser then go back to netscape 2.0. You will browse and pretty damn fast.
You do make a good point, and this is why I even occasinoally use LYNX to browse, but let's face it, we need a good, fast, browser without all the annoying frills that can actually support modern standards.
I am interested to hear what you have found that is rendered incorrectly?
Nothing large has ever rendered off for me, but one anomaly I have found is that even here on Slashdot in PR2, some of the images used in the tables don't quite line up like they do elsewhere. (Like that little curved corner to the left of each table heading on articles)
Ack - okay, so this is actually being posted from PR2. That's not bad. PR1 wouldn't even run long enough to get here, but we'll see.
Just some opionions right off the bat, though:
First of all . . . fix the installation, folks. I selected a really minimal custom config. and what did I get? EVERYTHING. This is just bad. I din't want any stinking AOL crap, or instant messaging, or whatever. And I already have Java, and I develop in it, so don't install another JRE for me, please. Whoops, too bad.
That initial annoyance asside, let's look at some nice things. Namely, the interface. I actually design interfaces all day long, and this one isn't all that bad. The widgets are a step above the standard win32 API, I must say. Had to tweak it do death though because it had so much clutter! Ick.
But worst of all, what the hell . . . isn't this a browser? Can't we just have a browser by itself? I already read my mail with something else, I already use Instant Messaging with something else, and I really don't need another program taking up space to do these things! And if I wanted to register with your crappy Netcenter home pages, wouldn't I? Do I have to click past 3 screens just to tell you NO!?
But rants aside, it's getting there . . . still slow, still renders a whole lot incorrectly, but hey it IS a preview.
However, since you can adjust the field of view in all the games, you could increase it enough to compensate for the wider screen, angle the side monitors some, and have surround-video. ^_^
I know in Q3A it's/set cg_FOV = <somedegrees>
Of course, it also would increase the vertical FOV, so things would be compressed. Hmm . . . someone needs to write a mod for Q3 so that the extra monitors can actually do something usefull. Like, attach one to a specator viewport that is attached to your player's position, then you could point it even behind you and hey, a rear-view mirror! Of course, that would be cheating, and we wouldn't do that. --
Wow, I thought this idea was never going to come up. I couldn't agree more, actually. Have you ever used a PIII-600, then sat down in front of a quad P-150? Despite the fact that the PIII costs so much more today than a handfull of old pentiums, it seems like the quad runs SO much faster.
The problem is, that many Operating Systems, let alone applications are not at all optomized for SMP systems. Heck, win95/98 won't even let you try SMP and a huge portion of the world uses it. And yes, win2k/NT supports it, but few apps truly benefit from it by itself. The real speed ups come when you can finally give that CPU-hog windows Explorer kernel thread it's own dang processor. And how nice multitasking gets with SMP.
And I can't wait for the next big Linux Kernel release, did you see all the nice SMP support they put into it? *grin*
So what I want to see is further development and support of SMP-friendly hardware (mobo's, vidcards), operating systems, and applications. --
Well, it's easy to see why this correlation of Computer<=>WebBrowser happens. The internet is the big hype as of now, and will remian so. However, almost any skill can be taught on paper, or in the mind. Take your Logo example . . . I learned to graph incredibly pretty parametric equasions when I was 16, on PAPER. No computer needed, and I ended up learning a skill not usually taught until 2nd or 3rd year College all out of curiosity.
Also, another point, that may have already been made is that Computers best enhance learned skills. By this I mean, there is SO MUCH you can learn without a computer, and 99% of comptuer applications only assist you in completing theese tasks you could have done on paper or in your mind. You really learn to think when you do something for yourself, and you see underlying patterns, and you begin to understand knowledge itself. The computer is a black box. Input - process - output. You don't appriciate it.
At least, the KIDS won't appriciate it if they never see the complexity.
Thus, computers can really assist us when we need a task done quickly. They can make us more efficient, and in fact give us more time to learn, but only if they are used appropriately. (read: you KNOW that most kids in the classroom are actually on AIM, ICQ, or Slashdot most of the time) --
Well, submersing something in another liquid like Flourinert means no air on the components, hence no condensation. Though chilling things to that temp is just silly alltogethr. You just need to keep the temps low by circulating normal to slightly-low temperature fluids over the board, and you could OC it to DEATH. Still a sorta neato project, though. --
Had they followed the link on their own site they would have found a handy little list of all of the boiling / gelling points of Flourinert. It's 3 links from thier own site. It turns out they make one flavor (FC-87) that goes down to -101 deg C. That should be more than cold enough . . . stick with dry ice and your temp shouldn't go below -90 dec C, if I recall. And why not use a CPU that could go even higher, if you're going to thow a grand $ into heat transfer fluid. We all know you can O/C to ~500 mhz, I wanna see 1000+! --
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If all you want is a browser without all the extra crap, use MOZILLA and not NETSCAPE.
Why did I talk about Netscape? Because the article was about Netscape. I have used Mozilla as well, and it has it's own set of pros and cons. And yeah, you're right, it will end up the better product.
I personally just can't wait till they're both at final release. Beta is just a tease!
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Then you want Konqueror. It loads up in the blink of an eye (IE-like speeds), it's fast, and looks nice.
Oh, I've used Konq before. It's is downright nice and fast. But then again, the day my boss lets me install anything other than Windoze on my machines here at work, hell will have frozen over, and hey, then I can use it.
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Better than what I got. It segfaults right after it asks me for the install dir (yes, I have perms).
Heh, man, now that is just bad. I'm starting to wonder if this is a Microsoft product . . .
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Hey, I'm impressed that you can get PR2 to run at all. When I try to run it on Win98 all I get is the splash screen and then it just hangs forever until I kill it.
/. articles on.
I'm using win2k to try it out here . . . haven't tried it on my win98 box at home yet, though. Amazingly, I used it for almost half an hour without a crash, and I ended up exiting it because it was too slow to read all my
Go figure, PR1 was fast but unstable for me, this one is the opposite.
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Oh my god, you had to click 3 times (...)
Good software interface design always dictates that the only events that should happen are events that the user requests to happen. Thus, when I start a program and get spammed with several windows that I could easily acces eslewhere, this is bad design. Go read an interface design textbook.
If all you wanted was a browser then go back to netscape 2.0. You will browse and pretty damn fast.
You do make a good point, and this is why I even occasinoally use LYNX to browse, but let's face it, we need a good, fast, browser without all the annoying frills that can actually support modern standards.
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I am interested to hear what you have found that is rendered incorrectly?
Nothing large has ever rendered off for me, but one anomaly I have found is that even here on Slashdot in PR2, some of the images used in the tables don't quite line up like they do elsewhere. (Like that little curved corner to the left of each table heading on articles)
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Ack - okay, so this is actually being posted from PR2. That's not bad. PR1 wouldn't even run long enough to get here, but we'll see.
Just some opionions right off the bat, though:
First of all . . . fix the installation, folks. I selected a really minimal custom config. and what did I get? EVERYTHING. This is just bad. I din't want any stinking AOL crap, or instant messaging, or whatever. And I already have Java, and I develop in it, so don't install another JRE for me, please. Whoops, too bad.
That initial annoyance asside, let's look at some nice things. Namely, the interface. I actually design interfaces all day long, and this one isn't all that bad. The widgets are a step above the standard win32 API, I must say. Had to tweak it do death though because it had so much clutter! Ick.
But worst of all, what the hell . . . isn't this a browser? Can't we just have a browser by itself? I already read my mail with something else, I already use Instant Messaging with something else, and I really don't need another program taking up space to do these things! And if I wanted to register with your crappy Netcenter home pages, wouldn't I? Do I have to click past 3 screens just to tell you NO!?
But rants aside, it's getting there . . . still slow, still renders a whole lot incorrectly, but hey it IS a preview.
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However, since you can adjust the field of view in all the games, you could increase it enough to compensate for the wider screen, angle the side monitors some, and have surround-video. ^_^
/set cg_FOV = <somedegrees>
I know in Q3A it's
Of course, it also would increase the vertical FOV, so things would be compressed. Hmm . . . someone needs to write a mod for Q3 so that the extra monitors can actually do something usefull. Like, attach one to a specator viewport that is attached to your player's position, then you could point it even behind you and hey, a rear-view mirror! Of course, that would be cheating, and we wouldn't do that.
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SMP
Wow, I thought this idea was never going to come up. I couldn't agree more, actually. Have you ever used a PIII-600, then sat down in front of a quad P-150? Despite the fact that the PIII costs so much more today than a handfull of old pentiums, it seems like the quad runs SO much faster.
The problem is, that many Operating Systems, let alone applications are not at all optomized for SMP systems. Heck, win95/98 won't even let you try SMP and a huge portion of the world uses it. And yes, win2k/NT supports it, but few apps truly benefit from it by itself. The real speed ups come when you can finally give that CPU-hog windows Explorer kernel thread it's own dang processor. And how nice multitasking gets with SMP.
And I can't wait for the next big Linux Kernel release, did you see all the nice SMP support they put into it? *grin*
So what I want to see is further development and support of SMP-friendly hardware (mobo's, vidcards), operating systems, and applications.
--
Well, it's easy to see why this correlation of Computer<=>WebBrowser happens. The internet is the big hype as of now, and will remian so. However, almost any skill can be taught on paper, or in the mind. Take your Logo example . . . I learned to graph incredibly pretty parametric equasions when I was 16, on PAPER. No computer needed, and I ended up learning a skill not usually taught until 2nd or 3rd year College all out of curiosity.
Also, another point, that may have already been made is that Computers best enhance learned skills. By this I mean, there is SO MUCH you can learn without a computer, and 99% of comptuer applications only assist you in completing theese tasks you could have done on paper or in your mind. You really learn to think when you do something for yourself, and you see underlying patterns, and you begin to understand knowledge itself. The computer is a black box. Input - process - output. You don't appriciate it.
At least, the KIDS won't appriciate it if they never see the complexity.
Thus, computers can really assist us when we need a task done quickly. They can make us more efficient, and in fact give us more time to learn, but only if they are used appropriately. (read: you KNOW that most kids in the classroom are actually on AIM, ICQ, or Slashdot most of the time)
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Well, submersing something in another liquid like Flourinert means no air on the components, hence no condensation. Though chilling things to that temp is just silly alltogethr. You just need to keep the temps low by circulating normal to slightly-low temperature fluids over the board, and you could OC it to DEATH. Still a sorta neato project, though.
--
Had they followed the link on their own site they would have found a handy little list of all of the boiling / gelling points of Flourinert. It's 3 links from thier own site. It turns out they make one flavor (FC-87) that goes down to -101 deg C. That should be more than cold enough . . . stick with dry ice and your temp shouldn't go below -90 dec C, if I recall. And why not use a CPU that could go even higher, if you're going to thow a grand $ into heat transfer fluid. We all know you can O/C to ~500 mhz, I wanna see 1000+!
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