Why? Why shouldn't Microsoft be able to say "if you want to use my property, you will sign this contract saying how you will use it. If you don't like those terms, don't use our software."?
They have a limited right to this, yes. What they DO NOT have the right to do is dicate what OTHER software they can do, both in interacting with their own software, and completely external to their software. This means that no, they cannot say you can use our OS, but not their applications. They also cannot say you can use our OS, so long as you *NEVER* use theirs..
That makes no sense when its a platform patch. If I port the kernel to chip 'XYZ', do I submit 1k 10k patches, each labeled, "Adds code to handle XYZ chip"?
Not in this particular case. It's being rejected due to the sheer size of the patch required. It's a fairly significant change, and, well, Linux ain't to hot on updates such as those. Alan Cox is the only reason why alot of the stuff makes it into the kernel..
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How many chiefs of security at major technology corporations run off and leave their workstations unlocked and logged in?
Lots... Happens every day..
How many CEOs of tech corporations routinely leave their satellite control computers unlocked and logged in?
Dunno, how many COE's with Satalite control systems you know?
How many TCP-IP-based networking programs are advanced enough to control satellite networks but are too primitive to actually REMEMBER IP addresses instead of requiring you to manually enter them by hand each time you want to connect?
K, 1 point for you..:-)
How many people are smart enough to rise to the level of CEO but dumb enough to think they can base their company's success on murder without getting caught?
And I quote.. 'Well, I'm not sure.. What do you mean by competition.. No, we wheren't competing with them.. Well, Yes, they offered a competing product, but your messing with the definitions..'..:-) 'Nuff said..
How many tech-savvy murderers would be dumb enough to leave video-recorded evidence of their crimes available on unencrypted file stores accessible by developer-level employees?
Dunno.. How many Elm Streets have a guy with very large razors on his fingers slashing people up?:-)
How many real-life "genius" developers do you think could immediately take some random piece of undocumented source code (written on a different platform by totally unknown persons), look at it for a mere 10 seconds, and not only understand what it does but be able to comment on the extent of its elegance or cleverness?
Two points..:-)
How many entry-level developers at Microsoft were recruited directly by Bill Gates, including a personal tour of his mansion?
He wasn't an entry lvl guy man.. Shesh.. He was supposed to be a forking genius..
Isn't it convenient how everyone in the world uses GNOME and unix-based OSes, and how easily portable all the code is among them?
Err, I don;t follow you there. The basis of him being able to beam it down to everything was that the company had already gotten their software everywhere that could recieve it. Hence, basically.. Yes..:-)
There were so many completely unrealistic and unbelievable holes in this movie that all I could do was laugh and try not to miss my $7.50.
Tell me.. Do you request a refund from Star Trek movies as well? Hrm.. Do you actually *WATCH* anything but documentaries?:-)
I did find one oopsie as I was watching the movie. At one point, they display a file clearly written in 'C', but he saves and compiles it as a '.java' file..:-) We forgive you..
Say, anyone actually get enough of the source to see what the functions actually *DID*?
Oh sure, hiring them make a GREAT movie..
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Controlling big media is a powerful lure for all sorts of people these days, but in America, you don't have to murder hordes of programmers to do it. You can just hire them.
Oh *COMMON*. And in the last Star Trek movie they coulda just blasted the bonehead from space. But what fun would there be in that??
It's Movie.. Makebelieve..
Man, you musta had one SUCK of a childhood, or your to darned old to remember..
Consider the film's conceit, for instance, that one of the ways the evil corporation NURV ("Never Underestimate Radical Vision") stays competitive is to use hidden video cameras to spy on the keyboards of all the smart young programmers in the world and feed their discoveries into a central network -- hidden in a day care center. They then commit their perfidy to videotape, and leave the evidence in non-encrypted, accessible files. That's only one example of the screenplay's foolishness.
Oh for crying out loud Katz. Normally, I like some of your insights..
IT'S A MOVIE Do you really thing if that Nightmare on Elm Street is about a REAL street? Or could even happen? LIGHTEN UP!..
Besides. A good majority of the world doesn't live in an IT utopia. Seems to me that when real hacker broken in to Microsoft, they wheren't looking at encrypted data either.
It wasn't trying to be a documentary, guys..
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I saw it, and I gotta say, I loved it. But what you have to bear in mind is, it's NOT trying to be a movie that represents. For crying out loud.
The biggest thing that impressed me about the movie was, THEY ACTUALLY got it all right. When they opened up a shell, *IT WAS A SHELL!*.. I mean heck, traditional movies would have this fancy 'undelete' screen that would magically recover files.. They actually had him restoring the friggen inode table. That just rocked..
Basically, to make my statement short, and very sweet..
** LIGHTEN UP GUYS.. IT WAS A MOVIE.. **
Heck, many geeks favorite movie is 'Heathers'. My personal favorite as well. I suppose you guys wanna rip it to shreads becouse it doesn't 'acuratly portray the typical highschool students'.. Shesh..
Many times sites check for browser, they also check browser version. This is foolish, 'spec when there are STILL sites that report IE 5 as being 'too old a version, please upgrade to IE5'..
An 802.11b card cannot provide nearly enough range for what is being talked about here. And you also have another limiting factor at that point. You're now sharing bandwidth with *EVERYONE* using this free service..:-)
Becouse one of the downfalls of having an 'Open System, with choices to fit all needs' is that for any one solution, there are at least 30 others out there.
Look at something as simple as package managment. There are at least 5 accepted standards using any one of 4 different tools.
If they can't agree on what a package should look like, how the hell are they gonna choose a standard layout and required libraries, etc..
ROTFL. So I'm not the only one who got yelled at for trying that trick?:-P
I actually wrote a quick program to basically serve as a Door App, present some of the FTP resources like wuarchives (Remember, the ORIGINAL cdrom.com:-) ), request a file, and the door would throw the email request out to the Fidonet gateway to the FTP to email gateway at Digitial. When the mails where recieved, the mail tosser would throw them into a designated directory, and the door would pick them up, reassemble them, and throw them into Renegade as a file attachment in a private message to the requestor..:-)
Merchant Empires is one of the best 'adaptations' of TradeWars that moved to a new medium. It is also opensource, with a home page of http://merchempires.sourceforge.net/
It also uses simular technologies as the storys subject, but is much better at taking advantage of graphics, etc..
160$ fee for a 9600 baud connection. Keep in mind the current speed limitations. Noaw compare that to cable or DSL, at speeds tremedously greater then those available.
Thats right.. Current network setups only give 9600 baud. Or, you can goto a screaming 56k for nearly a grand..:-)
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Why? Why shouldn't Microsoft be able to say "if you want to use my property, you will sign this contract saying how you will use it. If you don't like those terms, don't use our software."?
They have a limited right to this, yes. What they DO NOT have the right to do is dicate what OTHER software they can do, both in interacting with their own software, and completely external to their software. This means that no, they cannot say you can use our OS, but not their applications. They also cannot say you can use our OS, so long as you *NEVER* use theirs..
That makes no sense when its a platform patch. If I port the kernel to chip 'XYZ', do I submit 1k 10k patches, each labeled, "Adds code to handle XYZ chip"?
Not in this particular case. It's being rejected due to the sheer size of the patch required. It's a fairly significant change, and, well, Linux ain't to hot on updates such as those. Alan Cox is the only reason why alot of the stuff makes it into the kernel..
How many chiefs of security at major technology corporations run off and leave their workstations unlocked and logged in?
:-)
:-) 'Nuff said..
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Lots... Happens every day..
How many CEOs of tech corporations routinely leave their satellite control computers unlocked and logged in?
Dunno, how many COE's with Satalite control systems you know?
How many TCP-IP-based networking programs are advanced enough to control satellite networks but are too primitive to actually REMEMBER IP addresses instead of requiring you to manually enter them by hand each time you want to connect?
K, 1 point for you..
How many people are smart enough to rise to the level of CEO but dumb enough to think they can base their company's success on murder without getting caught?
And I quote.. 'Well, I'm not sure.. What do you mean by competition.. No, we wheren't competing with them.. Well, Yes, they offered a competing product, but your messing with the definitions..'..
How many tech-savvy murderers would be dumb enough to leave video-recorded evidence of their crimes available on unencrypted file stores accessible by developer-level employees?
Dunno.. How many Elm Streets have a guy with very large razors on his fingers slashing people up?
How many real-life "genius" developers do you think could immediately take some random piece of undocumented source code (written on a different platform by totally unknown persons), look at it for a mere 10 seconds, and not only understand what it does but be able to comment on the extent of its elegance or cleverness?
Two points..
How many entry-level developers at Microsoft were recruited directly by Bill Gates, including a personal tour of his mansion?
He wasn't an entry lvl guy man.. Shesh.. He was supposed to be a forking genius..
Isn't it convenient how everyone in the world uses GNOME and unix-based OSes, and how easily portable all the code is among them?
Err, I don;t follow you there. The basis of him being able to beam it down to everything was that the company had already gotten their software everywhere that could recieve it. Hence, basically.. Yes..
There were so many completely unrealistic and unbelievable holes in this movie that all I could do was laugh and try not to miss my $7.50.
Tell me.. Do you request a refund from Star Trek movies as well? Hrm.. Do you actually *WATCH* anything but documentaries?
Funny that, so's my home gateway.. And nearly *EVERY OTHER PRIVATE GATEWAY*.. :-)
*ROTFL* Man, I wish I had mod points.. I just spewed my Pepsi.. :-)
No man.. It's very technically acurate.. :-) Play a drinking game where people identify how correct it is.. :-)
Yes, I did notice the red fedora on the spy cam and laughed out loud. I had to explain to my girlfriend that that was a very inside joke.
:-) My wife didn;t get it.. 'It was just a guy with a hat on.. Yer reaching' she said.. :-)
As did I..
Not to mention, why would I want to see a movie about what we all see *EVERY DAY*? :-)
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As a side note, this was funny:
Slow down cowboy!
Slashdot requires you to wait 1 minute between each submission of
It's been 1 minute since your last submission!
My favorite part was when it scrolled on the screen..
"This Transmition brought to you by this source code.."
I did find one oopsie as I was watching the movie. At one point, they display a file clearly written in 'C', but he saves and compiles it as a '.java' file.. :-) We forgive you..
Say, anyone actually get enough of the source to see what the functions actually *DID*?
Controlling big media is a powerful lure for all sorts of people these days, but in America, you don't have to murder hordes of programmers to do it. You can just hire them.
Oh *COMMON*. And in the last Star Trek movie they coulda just blasted the bonehead from space. But what fun would there be in that??
It's Movie.. Makebelieve..
Man, you musta had one SUCK of a childhood, or your to darned old to remember..
Consider the film's conceit, for instance, that one of the ways the evil corporation NURV ("Never Underestimate Radical Vision") stays competitive is to use hidden video cameras to spy on the keyboards of all the smart young programmers in the world and feed their discoveries into a central network -- hidden in a day care center. They then commit their perfidy to videotape, and leave the evidence in non-encrypted, accessible files. That's only one example of the screenplay's foolishness.
Oh for crying out loud Katz. Normally, I like some of your insights..
IT'S A MOVIE
Do you really thing if that Nightmare on Elm Street is about a REAL street? Or could even happen? LIGHTEN UP!..
Besides. A good majority of the world doesn't live in an IT utopia. Seems to me that when real hacker broken in to Microsoft, they wheren't looking at encrypted data either.
I saw it, and I gotta say, I loved it. But what you have to bear in mind is, it's NOT trying to be a movie that represents. For crying out loud.
The biggest thing that impressed me about the movie was, THEY ACTUALLY got it all right. When they opened up a shell, *IT WAS A SHELL!*.. I mean heck, traditional movies would have this fancy 'undelete' screen that would magically recover files.. They actually had him restoring the friggen inode table. That just rocked..
Basically, to make my statement short, and very sweet..
** LIGHTEN UP GUYS.. IT WAS A MOVIE.. **
Heck, many geeks favorite movie is 'Heathers'. My personal favorite as well. I suppose you guys wanna rip it to shreads becouse it doesn't 'acuratly portray the typical highschool students'.. Shesh..
Have a beer. Sit back.. Relax..
Oh, one more thing.. *I SO WANT their CUBES!*
Many times sites check for browser, they also check browser version. This is foolish, 'spec when there are STILL sites that report IE 5 as being 'too old a version, please upgrade to IE5'..
Interesting point. While not being citizens, they are considered independent entities.. Perhaps they are simply exersizing their rights.. :-P
A monoploy that could be brought down by other people simply buying other available products. ROTFL
I'm waiting to hear someones cracked into Paymentech. They are one of the largest payment processors out there, including billing for AOL.
And it's bound to happen. They're ripe for the pickings, really. Nearly all of the credit card processors are so insecure it's mind boggling.
Not if you want RANGE..
:-)
An 802.11b card cannot provide nearly enough range for what is being talked about here. And you also have another limiting factor at that point. You're now sharing bandwidth with *EVERYONE* using this free service..
Becouse one of the downfalls of having an 'Open System, with choices to fit all needs' is that for any one solution, there are at least 30 others out there.
Look at something as simple as package managment. There are at least 5 accepted standards using any one of 4 different tools.
If they can't agree on what a package should look like, how the hell are they gonna choose a standard layout and required libraries, etc..
It's the price..
ROTFL. So I'm not the only one who got yelled at for trying that trick? :-P
:-) ), request a file, and the door would throw the email request out to the Fidonet gateway to the FTP to email gateway at Digitial. When the mails where recieved, the mail tosser would throw them into a designated directory, and the door would pick them up, reassemble them, and throw them into Renegade as a file attachment in a private message to the requestor.. :-)
I actually wrote a quick program to basically serve as a Door App, present some of the FTP resources like wuarchives (Remember, the ORIGINAL cdrom.com
Merchant Empires is one of the best 'adaptations' of TradeWars that moved to a new medium. It is also opensource, with a home page of http://merchempires.sourceforge.net/
It also uses simular technologies as the storys subject, but is much better at taking advantage of graphics, etc..
160$ fee for a 9600 baud connection. Keep in mind the current speed limitations. Noaw compare that to cable or DSL, at speeds tremedously greater then those available.
:-)
Thats right.. Current network setups only give 9600 baud. Or, you can goto a screaming 56k for nearly a grand..
They have to at least *TRY* to to .NET. They don;t have to *SELL* it, but they do have to develope it.. See section 2.5..
But, they have to at least devote the manpower to developing in house. See section 2.5..