Funny that, in the Twin Cities, Papa John's pizza delivery drivers make $15/hr plus health insurance, and they even get stock options. Plus tips. For a foodservice job, I don't think $15/hr is bad.
That's more than I make at a dot-com. And 3x what I made when I did food service (best I could find with 2 bachelor's degrees). That's more than 'not bad,' that's awesome. It kicks McDonalds back and forth.
I thought the same way until I went and looked at a list of all the labels belonging to the RIAA. With the exception of a few DIY punk "labels", RRRecords, and Alternative Tentacles, I couldn't think of a single label that I'd bought a CD from in the last ten years that wasn't on the list of RIAA members.
I admit, the RIAA is all over the place, like bleeding sores, but here are a few a-week-later-so-no-one-will-read-it labels that print some great stuff. Check them out:
Discipline Global Mobile (except for the management) Papabear Mellotronen Sugar Hill CMP Records Noise (used to be good) Medium Delerium Alchemy Cuneiform One Way Magna Carta (a few good ones mixed in with the crap)
Virsuses cannot be contained in image files, sound files, video clips, or other file formats, only executable binaries - still technically true, but thanks to Microsoft's "hide extensions of known types" feature, you can see viruses like "innocent_file.jpg.vbs", which appears in Microsoft clients as "innocent_file.jpg". Launching this file will, of course, trigger the virus.
And we don't even need to hide extensions, because even with extensions set to be visible,.shs (scrap) extensions are hidden. This is a bug which Microsoft has never patched, even though it's been known for at least a year.
If I ran google or inktomi or lycos or what the hell ever (who can keep track of all the search engines/indexers), I would remove all references to eBay from my indexes/directories and set my spiders to never index their site. I would do the same thing for anyone else who filed a metabrowsing lawsuit.
They don't want to be metabrowsed? Then I won't metabrowse them. It's fair.
Still, there are plenty of technological advances that have harmed society, or at least, have hurt our moral standing. Cable and satellite television have aided the flow of pornography from red-light districts into the living rooms of decent families.
"Pornography's gotten a really bad name in our country. And I'd like to state, for the record, right now, I LOVE pornography. Love it. I've got tapes that are pure fuckin hard. People fuckin, suckin, every imaginable position, the finest lookin women, fuckin, suckin, I love it.
For the record."
No one will read this, because it's too late, but I wanted to have a Bill Hicks quote in my recently posted list.
The mp3 files are "organized" in a manner that only an incredibly anal person would organize their CD's. How many people do you know have all of their CD's labelled, catagorized, alphabetized, and all in the same spot.
Me (except for a few exceptions), my mom, my step-dad's brother (3 out of the 4 people I know with CDs).
In fact, my CDs are better organized than my mp3s. Most of my CDs would be something like/home/~me/CDShelf/RockTypeStuff/KingCrimson-Red. And the files on my hard drive aren't even ordered by release date.
That last thing right there could be helpful. Custom per-directory organization, that would be remembered when you came back to it (I'm talking to you, Microsoft). But we're still not talking about the Next Generation UI.
Am I anal? Could be. But if I were forced to use a UI as disorganized as some people's homes, I'd go on a killing spree.
Looks very nice. Too many buttons, but it looks like I can remove the ones I don't need (all of them). Can't tell if it can be set for one-pane mode, and one-pane-and-tree mode (you know, like that windows thing), but for 2 pane mode, I've been looking for a program this smooth since SID for the Amiga.
If somebody can explain to me why this dosne't really suck ass, then please correct me, but from where I'm standing, it stinks.
Oh no, you're right. As I've said before, sure Micros~1 is evil, but I'm sure that before they're through, AOL will make Micros~1 look like Mother Teresa.
But this isn't that big a deal. This is just another company using the bait and switch on its customers, using some nice technology as the bait. It will get worse, believe me.
This is the 'Napster generates sales' defence. I've often seen it used, but never seen it verified. Anecdotal evidence aside, is there any hard evidence that 'piracy' leads to increased sales and/or readers?
I'm not sure if Napster could generate sales, because Napster is so lame. I know that 'piracy' leads to increased sales, but I don't know about 'hard evidence.'
But that probably seems pretty anecdotal to you.
If you were here, I could hand you the case for the CD I'm listening to at the moment (Discipline - Into the Dream). It feels pretty hard to me. It'd probably hurt a lot if someone in the audience hurled it at me and the corner caught me on the head. And I would never own it if not for mp3.
I'm interested -- at least in this particular dialog -- in the notion of what constitutes information. If all information equates to no information, then you're implying that no-information somehow constitutes information (a part of the whole) or that information is derived from no-information.
I think what I'm REALLY saying is that "all data" equates to no information. Data that that doesn't contain valid data (or, in this context, communication) (such as a staticky television, a book of random letters, or a book of random concepts) doesn't really qualify as "information." To me, information is meaningful communication.
Trust seems to me to be a particular 'view' brought to information. I mean, is it possible to have information apart from trust?
I think no. Trust seems to me to be what makes data information. Without trust, without any way to come to a personal judgement on the value of data, it cannot inform. You might as well flip a coin.
And if everyone has different notions of trust -- you trust A, but I trust B -- then you're not really talking about the information itself -- you're talking about the experience of the reader -- the 'trust' that he/she carries around as baggage interacting with this thing that is (not yet) information.
True. Trust, communication, what constitutes information, and how the world is viewed are all subjective. The same book can be meaningful information to one person and pure mindless drivel to another. I run into this effect on/. every day. There are people here whose thought processes I can't even FATHOM.
Or, another way of looking at it, if trust determines information, then what determines trust? In order to trust one must know what to trust, and to know what to trust, one must have information.
Everything begins with faith. I know that "faith" can be an ugly word in techie parts, but it's true. Somewhere, at the beginning, everyone decides who and what to trust based on, essentially, emotional bias. Things other than logical analysis of data. Many start at a young age by trusting their parents (which has a genetic basis), and everything spins off (develops from) that original trust. Note that the original trust is not based from trust or information.
So what you're really defining when you proclaim that 'trust determines information' isn't information so much as trust -- which, in this case, doesn't help much to define information.
True. Defining trust, and trusted sources, is a bit twitchy. It's probably a lot more difficult and involved than defining information, which is simplistic.
Here is my simplistic definition, which seems to reflect how the world acts: information is "meaningful data." Or, in this context (the Library of Babel), information is "meaningful communication" would probably be better.
If all permutations of information exist, then it ceases to be information. So it begs the question: what makes information? Is it the thing itself? Or the thing(s) which it lacks?
Neither. The thing that makes information is trust. If you trust the source of data, then the data transmitted is information. If the source is untrustworthy, then the data transmitted is noise. A library filled with every possible text ever written, with no trusted source for any of them, is all noise.
Even the 'correct' texts. In fact, a library filled with every possible 'correct' text ever written, with no trusted source for any of them, is noise too. But, of course, in this case, one could test the texts against reality enough to say, "Hey, 100% of the first million books are 100% right, I think I can probably trust the author."
Tangent: there is a third possibility here, which is that if you think that the data is pleasing/interesting, then it is "artistic," regardless of the trustworthiness of the author. Art can be information, I think, but probably does not fit the definition of noise ("noise" music isn't usually pure noise).
If your a High School Drop out. you might wanna go and destroy these things. Cause they'll be competing for your jobs..
Hell, I had a college degree (two, in fact), and these things would have put me out of a job. Not that, with workers at minimum wage, it would be so cost-effective.
I don't doubt we'll have robots in restaurants, one day, but they'll have to be a bit cheaper.
Scientology whiners like Chick Corea liked to yell censorship and bloody murder when they were not invented to state funded events or institutions - like the taxpayer had some kind of obligation to fund their mindless drivel....
Hey hey hey, man. Say what you will about Chick's religious beliefs (being a Scientologist is utter looniness), but Chick is probably the best piano player in the world. Hardly "mindless drivel."
Fuck, if the government decided to treat me to a free show by, say, Chick Corea and Bobby McFerrin, I'd jump at it.
(/me replies a week later just to get it into the public record that while some musicians, like Chick Corea or Robert Fripp, may be wacko, they also are among the best musicians of our time.)
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Funny that, in the Twin Cities, Papa John's pizza delivery drivers make $15/hr plus health insurance, and they even get stock options. Plus tips. For a foodservice job, I don't think $15/hr is bad.
That's more than I make at a dot-com. And 3x what I made when I did food service (best I could find with 2 bachelor's degrees). That's more than 'not bad,' that's awesome. It kicks McDonalds back and forth.
There are many non-RIAA labels available at the Artist Shop, a pretty classy little online store dedicated to independent, usually artist-run, labels.
Check it out. Then buy "What means solid, traveller?" and "BLUE Nights."
I thought the same way until I went and looked at a list of all the labels belonging to the RIAA. With the exception of a few DIY punk "labels", RRRecords, and Alternative Tentacles, I couldn't think of a single label that I'd bought a CD from in the last ten years that wasn't on the list of RIAA members.
I admit, the RIAA is all over the place, like bleeding sores, but here are a few a-week-later-so-no-one-will-read-it labels that print some great stuff. Check them out:
Discipline Global Mobile (except for the management)
Papabear
Mellotronen
Sugar Hill
CMP Records
Noise (used to be good)
Medium
Delerium
Alchemy
Cuneiform
One Way
Magna Carta (a few good ones mixed in with the crap)
Enjoy.
Virsuses cannot be contained in image files, sound files, video clips, or other file formats, only executable binaries - still technically true, but thanks to Microsoft's "hide extensions of known types" feature, you can see viruses like "innocent_file.jpg.vbs", which appears in Microsoft clients as "innocent_file.jpg". Launching this file will, of course, trigger the virus.
.shs (scrap) extensions are hidden. This is a bug which Microsoft has never patched, even though it's been known for at least a year.
And we don't even need to hide extensions, because even with extensions set to be visible,
If I ran google or inktomi or lycos or what the hell ever (who can keep track of all the search engines/indexers), I would remove all references to eBay from my indexes/directories and set my spiders to never index their site. I would do the same thing for anyone else who filed a metabrowsing lawsuit.
They don't want to be metabrowsed? Then I won't metabrowse them. It's fair.
I'd suggest Washu - from the OVA - with her glasses on ... that picture just screams slashdot (well, to me at least - LOL!).
I second that. Washu rules. Always liked the geeks in TV.
(Not that this is always a good thing. I thought Wesley Crusher was cool at first.)
Still, there are plenty of technological advances that have harmed society, or at least, have hurt our moral standing. Cable and satellite television have aided the flow of pornography from red-light districts into the living rooms of decent families.
"Pornography's gotten a really bad name in our country. And I'd like to state, for the record, right now, I LOVE pornography. Love it. I've got tapes that are pure fuckin hard. People fuckin, suckin, every imaginable position, the finest lookin women, fuckin, suckin, I love it.
For the record."
No one will read this, because it's too late, but I wanted to have a Bill Hicks quote in my recently posted list.
BTW, I love pornography.
The mp3 files are "organized" in a manner that only an incredibly anal person would organize their CD's. How many people do you know have all of their CD's labelled, catagorized, alphabetized, and all in the same spot.
/home/~me/CDShelf/RockTypeStuff/KingCrimson-Red. And the files on my hard drive aren't even ordered by release date.
Me (except for a few exceptions), my mom, my step-dad's brother (3 out of the 4 people I know with CDs).
In fact, my CDs are better organized than my mp3s. Most of my CDs would be something like
That last thing right there could be helpful. Custom per-directory organization, that would be remembered when you came back to it (I'm talking to you, Microsoft). But we're still not talking about the Next Generation UI.
Am I anal? Could be. But if I were forced to use a UI as disorganized as some people's homes, I'd go on a killing spree.
in the end he dies ... it just cant get any more of bad day than that :)
Actually, that would be a good day. Sigh.
Falling Down was a great movie. I laughed my ass of in parts. Doesn't really have much to do with Arthur Dent, though.
CAT LIKE TYPING DETECTED!
Dammit! This happens every type I'm cybering the Hanson fans.
http://www.obsession.se/gentoo
Looks very nice. Too many buttons, but it looks like I can remove the ones I don't need (all of them). Can't tell if it can be set for one-pane mode, and one-pane-and-tree mode (you know, like that windows thing), but for 2 pane mode, I've been looking for a program this smooth since SID for the Amiga.
Much better than Nautilis.
If somebody can explain to me why this dosne't really suck ass, then please correct me, but from where I'm standing, it stinks.
Oh no, you're right. As I've said before, sure Micros~1 is evil, but I'm sure that before they're through, AOL will make Micros~1 look like Mother Teresa.
But this isn't that big a deal. This is just another company using the bait and switch on its customers, using some nice technology as the bait. It will get worse, believe me.
This is the 'Napster generates sales' defence. I've often seen it used, but never seen it verified. Anecdotal evidence aside, is there any hard evidence that 'piracy' leads to increased sales and/or readers?
I'm not sure if Napster could generate sales, because Napster is so lame. I know that 'piracy' leads to increased sales, but I don't know about 'hard evidence.'
But that probably seems pretty anecdotal to you.
If you were here, I could hand you the case for the CD I'm listening to at the moment (Discipline - Into the Dream). It feels pretty hard to me. It'd probably hurt a lot if someone in the audience hurled it at me and the corner caught me on the head. And I would never own it if not for mp3.
I'm interested -- at least in this particular dialog -- in the notion of what constitutes information. If all information equates to no information, then you're implying that no-information somehow constitutes information (a part of the whole) or that information is derived from no-information.
/. every day. There are people here whose thought processes I can't even FATHOM.
I think what I'm REALLY saying is that "all data" equates to no information. Data that that doesn't contain valid data (or, in this context, communication) (such as a staticky television, a book of random letters, or a book of random concepts) doesn't really qualify as "information." To me, information is meaningful communication.
Trust seems to me to be a particular 'view' brought to information. I mean, is it possible to have information apart from trust?
I think no. Trust seems to me to be what makes data information. Without trust, without any way to come to a personal judgement on the value of data, it cannot inform. You might as well flip a coin.
And if everyone has different notions of trust -- you trust A, but I trust B -- then you're not really talking about the information itself -- you're talking about the experience of the reader -- the 'trust' that he/she carries around as baggage interacting with this thing that is (not yet) information.
True. Trust, communication, what constitutes information, and how the world is viewed are all subjective. The same book can be meaningful information to one person and pure mindless drivel to another. I run into this effect on
Or, another way of looking at it, if trust determines information, then what determines trust? In order to trust one must know what to trust, and to know what to trust, one must have information.
Everything begins with faith. I know that "faith" can be an ugly word in techie parts, but it's true. Somewhere, at the beginning, everyone decides who and what to trust based on, essentially, emotional bias. Things other than logical analysis of data. Many start at a young age by trusting their parents (which has a genetic basis), and everything spins off (develops from) that original trust. Note that the original trust is not based from trust or information.
So what you're really defining when you proclaim that 'trust determines information' isn't information so much as trust -- which, in this case, doesn't help much to define information.
True. Defining trust, and trusted sources, is a bit twitchy. It's probably a lot more difficult and involved than defining information, which is simplistic.
Here is my simplistic definition, which seems to reflect how the world acts: information is "meaningful data." Or, in this context (the Library of Babel), information is "meaningful communication" would probably be better.
And I went on far too long with this.
If all permutations of information exist, then it ceases to be information. So it begs the question: what makes information? Is it the thing itself? Or the thing(s) which it lacks?
Neither. The thing that makes information is trust. If you trust the source of data, then the data transmitted is information. If the source is untrustworthy, then the data transmitted is noise. A library filled with every possible text ever written, with no trusted source for any of them, is all noise.
Even the 'correct' texts. In fact, a library filled with every possible 'correct' text ever written, with no trusted source for any of them, is noise too. But, of course, in this case, one could test the texts against reality enough to say, "Hey, 100% of the first million books are 100% right, I think I can probably trust the author."
Tangent: there is a third possibility here, which is that if you think that the data is pleasing/interesting, then it is "artistic," regardless of the trustworthiness of the author. Art can be information, I think, but probably does not fit the definition of noise ("noise" music isn't usually pure noise).
If your a High School Drop out. you might wanna go and destroy these things. Cause they'll be competing for your jobs..
Hell, I had a college degree (two, in fact), and these things would have put me out of a job. Not that, with workers at minimum wage, it would be so cost-effective.
I don't doubt we'll have robots in restaurants, one day, but they'll have to be a bit cheaper.
Scientology whiners like Chick Corea liked to yell censorship and bloody murder when they were not invented to state funded events or institutions - like the taxpayer had some kind of obligation to fund their mindless drivel....
Hey hey hey, man. Say what you will about Chick's religious beliefs (being a Scientologist is utter looniness), but Chick is probably the best piano player in the world. Hardly "mindless drivel."
Fuck, if the government decided to treat me to a free show by, say, Chick Corea and Bobby McFerrin, I'd jump at it.
(/me replies a week later just to get it into the public record that while some musicians, like Chick Corea or Robert Fripp, may be wacko, they also are among the best musicians of our time.)
Once one get's away from computer type sites like /., most folks think Matt and Eddie are hacker thieves, stealing from poor Barbie.
Nah, Barbie will cash in no matter what. I'm waiting for the new Cyber Patrol Barbie to come out -- "Not censoring the Internet is HARD!"