This is a beef I have with commuters...blah blah blah
This is the beef I have with city dwellers who believe everyone should live in cramped, overcrowded apartments and walk to work.
People may not be able to afford the extra $400 a month, which is a dubious figure to begin with.
People may not want to live in or near the city.
People may have other circumstances that require them to live outside the city and commute.
You don't know. The Government doesn't know and in fact it's the business of neither of you.
Have you considered the costs of city living?
* All the food has to be shipped in on big nasty diesel trucks. * Power is usually generated outside the city and ugly transmission lines are used to bring it in. * The large asphalt and concrete islands called cities raise the temperatures locally, causing higher demand for energy for cooling. * Crime rates are usually higher, which means more taxes for everyone for state prisons.
Perhaps you should consider living in the country?
There were plenty of people that saw this train wreck coming and tried to rein it in.
And if he is so damned smart, why wasn't he able to pay the taxes he owed in a timely manner like all of us regular, apparently not so smart people are able to do? Either he is dumber than the rest of us or he thought himself so important he couldn't be botherd.
I think we will see a lot of this kind of back tracking in the next four years.
Just look at the ethics situation now.
A tax cheat will be running the Treasury Department and a guy who played a questionable role in getting another tax cheat and fugitive pardoned will be the Attorney General. Don't even talk about Hillary.
Switch the party labels around and Slashdot would be in flames.
Presumably by murdering and displacing the Israelis eh?
A little Canadian Speak for ya there.
For six months Hamas was sending rockets into Israel and Israel did nothing. Where were all you folks protesting the violence then? Oh, It's just a few rockets, not a lot of people were hurt. No big deal, really.
Sigh...I said I would not target women and children. Plenty of soldiers and government officials to shoot at. And I would then not go hide in my kids room. Apparently you would just start shooting everyone in sight and then hide behind your wife when they came for you. Nice.
And the underdogs can avoid women and children by staying out of the schools, cafes, buses, etc.
And you will have to talk to Clinton about the Chinese Embassy.
I come into your living room and shoot you and your family...bad.
You come at me and my family shooting while holding your kids kids in front of you, and as a result you and your kids die. Regrettable, but tough shit...your fault.
In fact in the court of law, if you take a hostage or do anything else that results in the death of a third person, you are responsible.
The terrorists that you so sympathize with are responsible for every last death in Gaza.
You evidently have forgotten about the many homocide bombers blowing buses and schools. and gun men mowing down children. And don't even think of disputing these things happened and were perpetrated by the PLO.
You put a Rockets and other weapons on top of a school full of kids, you are responsible for their deaths.
This is the MO of these putrid fucks. Hide behide the innocent and when the innocent die, whine to the world and idiots like you take up their cause.
I answered it. I would not kill women and children or other innocents. Unlike apparently you would. Oh, but Israel is killing women and children you say. It's one thing to strap on a bomb, take an automatic weapon and go to a market, school, or other place and kill women and children. It's another thing to shoot back at someone shooting at you from behind their women and children.
Like I said, what happened in the past if worth shit. Otherwise you'd have the locals blowing your ass up because Canada took their land. Or your would think it appropriate that the Apache's start talk scalps again at the local mall.
Rx for peace: The Palistinians stop blowing people up, shooting rockets, etc.
Elect a government that is actually interested in living in peace and not constant war.
Put the same amount of energy into infrastructure/education/etc. in Gaza and the West Strip as they do smuggling arms and stockpiling weapons.
Israel has been attacked from day one. They were never the initial aggressors. They took barren desert and created their nation. Add to that the fact that there has never been a state of Palestine.
You bring a knife to a gun fight, be prepared to get your head blown off. If you shoot at someone from behind your wife and children, you are responsible for their deaths.
I sure as hell would not go find a school and blow it up. I wouldn't would blow up a bus full of civilians...why, would you? Yeah, it sucks for them. It has sucked for a lot of people all over the world throughout history. The Israelites were kicked out of the middle east by the Arabs. It sucked for them too. The Arabs conquered a large part of the middle east, should they give up their lands?
How about when they take my land and give it to a Condo developer? Should I go downtown and blow up city hall?
How about having my money taken away by the Feds for the Ponzi scheme called Social Security?
Where do you draw the line? I draw it having Rockets fired at me. Apparently you draw it at being evicted.
And your Grandmother's entire fucking family dies in the Holocaust because dicks like you didn't think it was worth it, right, justified, etc. to stop Hitler.
Ironic isn't? People who thought JUST LIKE YOU are responsible for Hitler's unempeded rise to power. In a way, they were responsible for the Holocaust.
And here's News To You buddy: All the violent fucks won't kill each other. One side will always win, then they will come after you.
The history of Gaza is irrelevant. What matters now is that Israel gave up Gaza, let them elect their own government. They were actually making strides in quality of life until they elected Hamas.
But no, they can't live in peace, improve their lot, even have their own nation of they'd just quit being such fucks.
I suppose your solution is to simply dissolve Israel eh? I bet your Jew Hating ass would love that. Sorry, but the United Nations established Israel, the Arabs attacked it and got their ass handed to them on a platter. Israel has steadily been making concessions to them for decades and it matters not one shit.
All they have to do is stop shooting rockets at Israel and this would have never happened. Actions have consequences and they have been asking for this for years. Well, they got it and sick pukes like you can't stand that someone gets what's coming to them.
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Facts:
Israel is not occupying Gaza
The terrorists in Gaza elect to wage war with Israel and then hide among their women and children like sorry, cowardly sick fucks.
They have had their chance to have peace and prosperity and they rejected it.
They have as part of their government charter the stated purpose to "destroy" Israel.
They state publicly that they want to kill Jews and even die while doing it.
The "public" elected these scumbags to power.
In WWII, the public supported the Nazi regime. They died by the hundreds of thousands for doing so as the regime they supported waged a world war.
This conflict will not end until one side utterly destroys the other.
As far as you go, I'm sure you'd like to go to Gaza and sing Cuumbaya with them but they'd probably just cut your head off.
And despite the inane analogy you make with China and the U.S., I highly doubt that the "rednecks" would attack and then go hide among their women and children, or launch rockets and mortars from atop occupied school buildings.
They do this because they know that morons like you will side with them.
Your jungle thinking comment is merely an extrapolation of the mindset that says people should not have the right to defend themseleves, but call the police. Crazy man coming at you with a knife? Run, don't fight back. Give him what he wants.
Sorry, crazy man with a knife gets put down like the animal he is. Crazy country get's put down just the same.
I suppose you believe that Israel should just accept the fact that no matter what they do, leave Gaze, let them elect their own government, etc. that the rockets will keep coming. The rockets will be come more and more sophisticated and eventualy kill more and more.
This notion of proportional response is bullshit. When someone is trying to kill you, then you you have the right to employ whatever amount of force is necessary to stop it.
"When we fire we run, but they hit back so fast. We run into the houses to get away." He continued smiling
"Don't you see that these people are hurting?" the militant was asked. "But I am from the people, too," he said, his smile incandescent. "They lost their loved ones as martyrs. They should be happy. I want to be a martyr, too."
This is the kind of sick and twisted thinking that Israel is facing.
Best thing that could happen is for Israel and the Palestinian population is that the IDF martyrs every last one of these terrorist fucks.
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The question is, who sets the standards?
People who seem to think that a large screen TV is as dangerous as contaminated milk?
This is a beef I have with commuters...blah blah blah
This is the beef I have with city dwellers who believe everyone should live in cramped, overcrowded apartments and walk to work.
People may not be able to afford the extra $400 a month, which is a dubious figure to begin with.
People may not want to live in or near the city.
People may have other circumstances that require them to live outside the city and commute.
You don't know. The Government doesn't know and in fact it's the business of neither of you.
Have you considered the costs of city living?
* All the food has to be shipped in on big nasty diesel trucks.
* Power is usually generated outside the city and ugly transmission lines are used to bring it in.
* The large asphalt and concrete islands called cities raise the temperatures locally, causing higher demand for energy for cooling.
* Crime rates are usually higher, which means more taxes for everyone for state prisons.
Perhaps you should consider living in the country?
Hmmm...I'm not buying this.
There were plenty of people that saw this train wreck coming and tried to rein it in.
And if he is so damned smart, why wasn't he able to pay the taxes he owed in a timely manner like all of us regular, apparently not so smart people are able to do? Either he is dumber than the rest of us or he thought himself so important he couldn't be botherd.
I think we will see a lot of this kind of back tracking in the next four years.
Just look at the ethics situation now.
A tax cheat will be running the Treasury Department and a guy who played a questionable role in getting another tax cheat and fugitive pardoned will be the Attorney General. Don't even talk about Hillary.
Switch the party labels around and Slashdot would be in flames.
interesting...Israel started the offensive near the end of December. Go Figure., That's after they started shooting rockets again.
Presumably by murdering and displacing the Israelis eh?
A little Canadian Speak for ya there.
For six months Hamas was sending rockets into Israel and Israel did nothing. Where were all you folks protesting the violence then? Oh, It's just a few rockets, not a lot of people were hurt. No big deal, really.
Ahh.. so we are at the It's America's Fault argument.
Regardless of blame, they sure as hell would put your kid down if he was a serial killer now wouldn't they.
Sigh...I said I would not target women and children. Plenty of soldiers and government officials to shoot at. And I would then not go hide in my kids room. Apparently you would just start shooting everyone in sight and then hide behind your wife when they came for you. Nice.
And the underdogs can avoid women and children by staying out of the schools, cafes, buses, etc.
And you will have to talk to Clinton about the Chinese Embassy.
By the way, all the news of what's going on in Gaza is from Hamas and they don't want anyone there to ruin their little propgand bonaza.
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/01/10/world/worldwatch/entry4711989.shtml
You keep right on citing the U.N. and Hamas. They call anyone not wearing a uniform a civilian whether they have a gun and are shooting at you or not.
I believe shit from Hamas and the U.N.
As far as hate goes you seem to be displaying the majority of here. But that's the way of the Left, isn't it?
Again you miss the point, or ar ignoring it.
I come into your living room and shoot you and your family...bad.
You come at me and my family shooting while holding your kids kids in front of you, and as a result you and your kids die. Regrettable, but tough shit...your fault.
In fact in the court of law, if you take a hostage or do anything else that results in the death of a third person, you are responsible.
The terrorists that you so sympathize with are responsible for every last death in Gaza.
You evidently have forgotten about the many homocide bombers blowing buses and schools. and gun men mowing down children. And don't even think of disputing these things happened and were perpetrated by the PLO.
You put a Rockets and other weapons on top of a school full of kids, you are responsible for their deaths.
This is the MO of these putrid fucks. Hide behide the innocent and when the innocent die, whine to the world and idiots like you take up their cause.
I answered it. I would not kill women and children or other innocents. Unlike apparently you would. Oh, but Israel is killing women and children you say. It's one thing to strap on a bomb, take an automatic weapon and go to a market, school, or other place and kill women and children. It's another thing to shoot back at someone shooting at you from behind their women and children.
Like I said, what happened in the past if worth shit. Otherwise you'd have the locals blowing your ass up because Canada took their land. Or your would think it appropriate that the Apache's start talk scalps again at the local mall.
Rx for peace:
The Palistinians stop blowing people up, shooting rockets, etc.
Elect a government that is actually interested in living in peace and not constant war.
Put the same amount of energy into infrastructure/education/etc. in Gaza and the West Strip as they do smuggling arms and stockpiling weapons.
Accept the fact that Israel is here to stay.
Leave Israel the fuck alone.
That is apparently the way the U.N. and all it's supporters want you to think.
Even then, say China attacks and takes your home. Are you going to go up a bus full of school children?
http://weblogs.asp.net/rosherove/archive/2009/01/05/political-the-truth-about-the-palestinian-loss-of-land-1946-to-2000.aspx
Read it if you dare.
Israel has been attacked from day one. They were never the initial aggressors. They took barren desert and created their nation. Add to that the fact that there has never been a state of Palestine.
You bring a knife to a gun fight, be prepared to get your head blown off. If you shoot at someone from behind your wife and children, you are responsible for their deaths.
I sure as hell would not go find a school and blow it up. I wouldn't would blow up a bus full of civilians...why, would you? Yeah, it sucks for them. It has sucked for a lot of people all over the world throughout history. The Israelites were kicked out of the middle east by the Arabs. It sucked for them too. The Arabs conquered a large part of the middle east, should they give up their lands?
How about when they take my land and give it to a Condo developer? Should I go downtown and blow up city hall?
How about having my money taken away by the Feds for the Ponzi scheme called Social Security?
Where do you draw the line? I draw it having Rockets fired at me. Apparently you draw it at being evicted.
Every nation on earth at one time belonged to different peoples, was taken over by force and a new nation created or an existing nation made larger.
"Giving people land they rightly own is not a concession"
So this would seem be what is at the heart of you inane ranting. So are you going to give up your home to the indigenous peoples of Canada?
Or perhaps you would think them justified in blowing a child care center.
"grievous injustices towards...were committed when the state was founded"
Substitute just about any nation or nationality and your argument is the same. So who would you have be next?
Churchill tried to warn the world about Hitler. Warmonger they called him. Nevil Chamberlin thought he could bargin, make concessions, JUST LIKE YOU.
No one in Europe and America did anything until they were attacked because they thought JUST LIKE YOU.
And your Grandmother's entire fucking family dies in the Holocaust because dicks like you didn't think it was worth it, right, justified, etc. to stop Hitler.
Ironic isn't? People who thought JUST LIKE YOU are responsible for Hitler's unempeded rise to power. In a way, they were responsible for the Holocaust.
And here's News To You buddy: All the violent fucks won't kill each other. One side will always win, then they will come after you.
The history of Gaza is irrelevant. What matters now is that Israel gave up Gaza, let them elect their own government. They were actually making strides in quality of life until they elected Hamas.
But no, they can't live in peace, improve their lot, even have their own nation of they'd just quit being such fucks.
I suppose your solution is to simply dissolve Israel eh? I bet your Jew Hating ass would love that. Sorry, but the United Nations established Israel, the Arabs attacked it and got their ass handed to them on a platter. Israel has steadily been making concessions to them for decades and it matters not one shit.
All they have to do is stop shooting rockets at Israel and this would have never happened. Actions have consequences and they have been asking for this for years. Well, they got it and sick pukes like you can't stand that someone gets what's coming to them.
Facts:
Israel is not occupying Gaza
The terrorists in Gaza elect to wage war with Israel and then hide among their women and children like sorry, cowardly sick fucks.
They have had their chance to have peace and prosperity and they rejected it.
They have as part of their government charter the stated purpose to "destroy" Israel.
They state publicly that they want to kill Jews and even die while doing it.
The "public" elected these scumbags to power.
In WWII, the public supported the Nazi regime. They died by the hundreds of thousands for doing so as the regime they supported waged a world war.
This conflict will not end until one side utterly destroys the other.
As far as you go, I'm sure you'd like to go to Gaza and sing Cuumbaya with them but they'd probably just cut your head off.
And despite the inane analogy you make with China and the U.S., I highly doubt that the "rednecks" would attack and then go hide among their women and children, or launch rockets and mortars from atop occupied school buildings.
They do this because they know that morons like you will side with them.
Your jungle thinking comment is merely an extrapolation of the mindset that says people should not have the right to defend themseleves, but call the police. Crazy man coming at you with a knife? Run, don't fight back. Give him what he wants.
Sorry, crazy man with a knife gets put down like the animal he is. Crazy country get's put down just the same.
What? You think war should be fair?
I suppose you believe that Israel should just accept the fact that no matter what they do, leave Gaze, let them elect their own government, etc. that the rockets will keep coming. The rockets will be come more and more sophisticated and eventualy kill more and more.
This notion of proportional response is bullshit. When someone is trying to kill you, then you you have the right to employ whatever amount of force is necessary to stop it.
Read this, http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/09/world/09fighter.html?_r=3&scp=2&sq=islamic%20jihad&st=cse
"When we fire we run, but they hit back so fast. We run into the houses to get away." He continued smiling
"Don't you see that these people are hurting?" the militant was asked.
"But I am from the people, too," he said, his smile incandescent. "They lost their loved ones as martyrs. They should be happy. I want to be a martyr, too."
This is the kind of sick and twisted thinking that Israel is facing.
Best thing that could happen is for Israel and the Palestinian population is that the IDF martyrs every last one of these terrorist fucks.