This is a joke,
it refers to the (very funny, imho) "Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy" books,
and the earlier story about the gunzipped DeCSS prime number.
Usually, I'll be very happy with the lack of censorshipability - but there are some problems with this.
1. Some countries has limited the freedom of speech, so if i have any form of "illegal" documents on my server, I could be claimed responsible for it, without me actually "owning" the document. Being unable to find the real "owner" one can be trialed.
2. Some things should be censored, and I'm not talking about the bluebox plans. Nazi sites for example may need some form of censorship, I'm afraid the whole freenet thing could become a nazi haven.
Another problem is the inability to decide which documents to delete in a case of overgrowth, for example i may post a page which may seem irrelevant now, but in 3 years it will be requested, how can i assure it won't be deleted, and if i can, who says people won't use this feature to fill freenet with junk? there are people that like to harm.
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Damn, that was a hard choice. I couldn't decide - I checked hemos, then i decided he's not worthy, since hemos is much better. So naturally i changed my vote to hemos, but hell - hemos was still a better choice! So again i rechecked the hemos box, but then I understood that the best hemos isn't hemos nor is it hemos, so i checked hemos instead. Then I doubted my choices and decided to go back to Hemos. After an hour or so I realized that such a desicion can take me days!
So eventualy I absained.:-(
--- The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck,
I don't know about you, but I hate the term "passed on", what's wrong with "died"? It seems to me that death is a dirty word, and that some people are offended by the fact that life is terminal.
Folks! Life is going to end, even your own life, you should except it. You're not going to pass on to anywhere, you're gonna croak, and be eaten by worms.
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As the article suggested, we should make a dumbed down installation. But from my experience (with redhat) it is very confusing.
In redhat, if you choose workstation you agree to wipe out all of your HD. Obviously bad for multibooters which are most of the newbies today. Being that, these users are forced to choose their packages alone. The defaults in there are quite bad for newbies, and i expect the expert to twaek it's packages instead of a newbie that doesn't understand what he does. Then one has to choose his services, which is a disaster when people just choose all "because it can't hurt", or don't delete the unused defaults. (which are again quite bad, imho)
The average newbie likes to go on his installation just by clicking ok on everything, so i think what must be done is to make it so. Caldera has an installation that makes it easy for users to click "ok" all the way through.
Another thing is, newbies of one area are not newbies in another. Some newbies need to set their partitions, but have no idea what i daemon is. Some others don't know what partitions are but know what packages they want. There must be a way for newbies to "skip" only some choices, not all.
Lastly, i think it is a bad bad bad idea not to explain root to users, or make their computer some non-multiuser version. this makes security worse. think win98. Users should understand multiuser enviroments, this is how linux works, and this is how it should work.
--- The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck,
I wanted to say something really important, so i begun a thread on a new story.
LAST POST! Anyone posting after this post will die painfully. You can continue on this thread if you worship budhah and have only 3 fingers - But you'll have to use the subject line "Oogah majihombi".
Anyone refusing to this rule will die a slow and painful death, while snails will eat you alive.
Enjoy!
--- The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck,
I heard quantum computers are related to parallel universes somehow, and I heard about a "EPR bridge" on the tv show "sliders".
Can someone explain to me what does it mean? Does it mean that every outcome of the superpositiion is in a different universe? (ie for a 500 atom computer it will happend it 500^2 universes?)
--- The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck,
Usualy, I favor mp3 on any of the record companies. The reason is that mp3 is a technology that can be used in many ways which are legal.
However, it seems to me as OSCAR streches that line. It is made specificly to copy other artists work. The reason is that it is devided into subdirectories as CDs. Normally non copyrighted material does not come in CDs, rather it comes as seperate mp3 files. This is because there is no need to sell it, thus usualy it is no contained in normal media. (but rather on mp3s, and unsorted tape cassettes).
I think it is wrong to make such a device for the purpose of pirating copyrighter material, which is the clear purpose of this device. (that may be the purpose of RIO as well, but it's not "specificly designed for pirated music").
A good example is CDRs. I agree many people put CDRs to use by burning warez and pirated things, but many other use it for good reasons (burning debian for friends:-)) If some CDR creator will put special warez abilities in the CDR I'm sure people will be against it, though they use CDRs in their lives for non-warez purposes.
--- The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck,
I am currently working on PUMP. It is secure and will not allow any of many problems that can exist with messaging software, such as spoofing, sniffing, self-authorization, etc.
It will use PGP for authentication and encryption, and will use digital certificates for contact list authorization.
It doesn't have a central servel, but it works similar to email. (ie user@server.net)
I'm working on it (biggo@netvision.net.il) with another guy (larry@lar.dyndns.org). Contact me if you wish to help or join the project.
--- The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck,
"Would we put up the source code for Photoshop?" Warnock said. "Not in a million years.... Well, maybe sometime in the future. But something like that is so horrendously complex, it is just not feasible -- the build mechanics are just too horrendous. But sure, if we needed help and the open-source community could provide it, absolutely."
That's very nice of him to say that. They appreciate Open Source, because then people will do the job for them. God, I'm eager to do their job and not be paid while they make money of it.
If I want to work on an Open Source Image Manipulation Program, I'll work on the Gimp.
Besides that, I think a good strategy for them is to work with BeOS. If Be declared themselves as the media OS, I'm sure they can use Adobe's products, and vice versa. Currently they don't even have "Acrobat reader" for BeOS....
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It doesn't work. Source code or not, you'll get cracked, you can see it now, and you will later. A good example of security through obscurity is ICQ, and a good example of secure open source product is PGP (and GnuPG).
Your claim is that people will work, but when the key is found they will report it as a false one, claiming the reward. It is possible, I agree, but it is also possible now.
but - Making an opensource program will allow you to find problems. Assume the new client will send in a false signal as a mistake if it was true, what would you do about that it nobody find it in the code? What if someone finds quicker algorithms? think about it.
Last thing, you contridict yourself. If you can autodetect cracks, how come you don't know if all the other people in the russian dude's team are fakes as well? (you cut them off, appearantly) Why did you have to talk to that guy (which was already detected to be a cracker)?
--- The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck,
I meant crack the key, not AS the key. Let's assume the winning key is: 5577F332 (could it be? chances are 2^(-64) that it is).
Cheating the winner key would be saying that 5577F332 is a bad key. This is the worst thing that can happed, it would force us to start the whole search from key 0. (many months of work for waste)
Cheating as the winner key would be saying that key 4567AB67 (not the winner) is the winner. This is a very small problem. It will only make the distributed.net computer recheck if it is the winner. (no more than a few cycles lost)
--- The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck,
You can't know who is making false keys. That russian dude was both smart and stupid. Technicly, he was smart enough to hack the client. Bravo to him on that. But he was stupid enough to make gigakeys. (assuming he did not want to get caught, just bring his team the honor of a high keyrate)
The problem is that many people could have cheated without raising suspicion. Instead of doing 200 packets per day, they now do 5000, which is quite good, but not good enough to be noticed. They might have reversed engineered the client, that it will act as several users, each with a thousand or so keys. So the cracker pretends to be 200 users, each with ~1000/day and joins them in a team, he has a team of 200kpackets/day, and that's a lot.
AnandTech can be just that too. (sorry if they are not this is an example) One sudden say they passed slashdot with one user who is the daily number 1. Is he legit? How come it was so sudden? How did he dare passing team slashdot?;-)
The problem is that "it's not cheating unless you get caught". And who knows the actual "winner" key could have been cheated and we're working for nothing.:-(
A solution is to request the client to do another task on the packet (or a part of it), that is very fast in one way (nanoseconds) and a bit slower on the other (few seconds), like hashing. It will only slow the actual keybreaking by 1%, but cheaters will need to solve the hashing challange as well. (though if they crack the client well, they can "speed up" by about 100 times)
--- The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck,
The problem is that it doesn't matter how hard you work to secure your network, if your user will tell his password to someone else, your work is in vain.
Melissa, ExploreZip, and Happy99 are good examples of this. You try to build a good secure system for your users, which in fact are smart enough not to tell anyone their passwords. But the users did the mistake of having friends with Outlook... (they are smart enough not to run exe files they get by mail) Bam! Your mailserver is flooded. (I think a solution would be to discard messages with "X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook" and tell the sender about security problems with it)
What you can do is to revoke access for "security hazards". If a user is too dumb to tell his password, tell him not to do so, and tell him that if people do "bad things" to his data,it's his fault. If the user has access to important things, revoke his access. Disallow insecure software, etc. Also, use SATAN-alike tools (NESSUS is quite nice).
Bottom line: A wall is as strong as its weakest brick, so instead of trying to make a strong brick stronger, try to take care of the weak ones.
--- The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck,
Basicly they say: "our software is as evil as Microsoft's!". We should defend everything like that.
"A virus that reset's the computer without a warning? I thought Windows does the same!", "...But it overwrites the MBR without asking! - And what does Windows installation do?", "It fills memory with useless junk decreasing your computer speed to crawl, reminds you of anything?", "It shows annoying dancing paperclips... Oh god, that's the worst virus ever created!!!"
--- The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck,
I admit, I havn't read the article, but it's name was just ludicrous. Come on, "Competition is a concern"?
Microsoft was founded to be THE competition.
Have they innovated anything and somebody competed against it? As I recall, Microsoft sees a technology, steals it, and competes against it. You may say it is the same, but think of a world without competition (scary, isn't it?), Microsoft will not exist, since every product they would make had existed already!
The one product they have invented, Bob, was such a sucess, that all the other comapies were afraid that if they copy it, it will never be as good. In fact, Microsoft thought that since it is so good, they should discontinue it entirely, so not to spoil it and ruin it's reputation of a bestseller. (the following statement makes the same sense as the above ballmer's statement)
They say Linux competes with them. They have competed against UNIX, and the truth is that Linux bites market shares mostly from Unices. (though it gets the mindshare of NT admins)
The last thing ever they would want is the compatition to end, where will they steal their features from? They wouldn't like to be an only product, since new ideas mean more to them - Without them, people will not upgrade, and they would have less bloat. (remember the "love bloat" article written by that Microsoft developer?)
--- The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck,
As I see we're in the dawn of a crazy IPO-mania. With all hype today about internet, people think they can make money of it easily. (I will not be surprised if the same people are the people that answer "make $$$ quick" scams).
Some hype has gone over MP3, and *bang* MP3.com sales like hotcakes. Linux hype? Slashdot is allover that redhat IPO, and soon Caldera and SuSE. Anti-Microsoft? BeOS IPO sells! Portals and "Web"? See how much Yahoo and amazon makes!
Basicly all of these (except for BeOS and Amazon) give away their products for nothing, but "they will make tons of cash" since they are buzzword related. At the end these companies will fall down like pyramid scams, this can hurt economy quite much when it does. (my bet would be this december, just before "Y2K" hype).
Investors today don't care about the product, but the name. I recall story of a model-boat company changing their name to boat.com - they trippled their value within a day before the investors knew they only sell models of boats. And this company may have revenues much higher than mp3.com (again, how will they make money?)
This is also the case for the cybersquatters thinking "suckmypole" will sell for $1000s, and wondering why noone buys from them. Except for mp3.com and cnet, I havn't seen a website that's most of it's value is it's domain(s).
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Ofcourse domain name is important. I'll give you a good example: c-net. they have download.com and news.com developer.com... Newbies have no idea what a "domain" is, and just type a word and.com, so if they are looking for news they will try news.com, if they are looking to downlaod something they will go to download.com
I think the best domain for this kind of things is sex.com:-)
--- The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck,
First of all, they are right, nobody's helping the project outside of netscape. We are all cheering for them, but noone acts. A few days ago i submitted a story about how mozilla wants us to help debug gecko, it wasn't published, and you really should visit the page (at mozillazine).
We have to prove them wrong, not just wait for other people to work. Working on Mozilla will provide a browser for all of us (even windows users;-)) from us. I think some of us have worked hard, people like the BeZilla team (not sponsered by netscape or be inc), and the os/2 team, have made a good job by porting mozilla to their platform. Why don't you help too? There are many things to add and improve, and you can join too. So - stop bitching that they won'y open source it, and prove them they should not close it again!
I don't know about you, but I'll start working on that whole bug-athon thing right now.
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Benchmarks mean scratch, let's do some "real world" tests, shall we?
Let's make a "security" test, see which webserver can be exploited to hack your system. But that wouldn't be fair, is it? afterall, nobody cares to hack you in the real world, while if you server 2x static web pages, you're the king.
And uptime? Doesn't mean shit. Afterall, in the real world, who cares about making it servers run all the time, they just want them to run for small tests, like this one.
And features? Forget it, who needs PHP? or mod_perl? And kernel features such as ip masquarading? appearantly, nobody needs these anyway... not in ther real world.
And the price? doesn't count in the real world, because nobody pays the bill, per user. Let's leave prices for our boss to worry about...
And they were so gracious letting us have NT clients. What about unix clients? let's see how can NT scale with NFS!
Let show them we are good with benchmark, since it is exactly like the real world.
I, however, don't give a damn about the results. So Bill's penis is larger than linus'? get over it. we will show them we are better - in the real world.
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Slashdot Mirror
To moderators who moderated as insightful:
This is a joke,
it refers to the (very funny, imho) "Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy" books,
and the earlier story about the gunzipped DeCSS prime number.
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Now I can grow pickles!
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2001-03-08 12:38:17
is this a scam to know people's birthdays?
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Usually, I'll be very happy with the lack of censorshipability - but there are some problems with this.
1. Some countries has limited the freedom of speech, so if i have any form of "illegal" documents on my server, I could be claimed responsible for it, without me actually "owning" the document. Being unable to find the real "owner" one can be trialed.
2. Some things should be censored, and I'm not talking about the bluebox plans. Nazi sites for example may need some form of censorship, I'm afraid the whole freenet thing could become a nazi haven.
Another problem is the inability to decide which documents to delete in a case of overgrowth, for example i may post a page which may seem irrelevant now, but in 3 years it will be requested, how can i assure it won't be deleted, and if i can, who says people won't use this feature to fill freenet with junk? there are people that like to harm.
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The XMMS competition is over.
:-)
The winner was the xmms-speakers with jakedaw and kint following.
Personally I liked Blursk the most.
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Damn, that was a hard choice.
:-(
I couldn't decide - I checked hemos, then i decided he's not worthy, since hemos is much better.
So naturally i changed my vote to hemos, but hell - hemos was still a better choice!
So again i rechecked the hemos box,
but then I understood that the best hemos isn't hemos nor is it hemos, so i checked hemos instead.
Then I doubted my choices and decided to go back to Hemos.
After an hour or so I realized that such a desicion can take me days!
So eventualy I absained.
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The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck,
I don't know about you, but I hate the term "passed on", what's wrong with "died"?
It seems to me that death is a dirty word,
and that some people are offended by the fact that life is terminal.
Folks!
Life is going to end, even your own life, you should except it.
You're not going to pass on to anywhere, you're gonna croak, and be eaten by worms.
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The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck,
As the article suggested, we should make a dumbed down installation.
But from my experience (with redhat) it is very confusing.
In redhat, if you choose workstation you agree to wipe out all of your HD.
Obviously bad for multibooters which are most of the newbies today.
Being that, these users are forced to choose their packages alone.
The defaults in there are quite bad for newbies, and i expect the expert to twaek it's packages
instead of a newbie that doesn't understand what he does.
Then one has to choose his services, which is a disaster when people just choose all "because it can't hurt",
or don't delete the unused defaults. (which are again quite bad, imho)
The average newbie likes to go on his installation just by clicking ok on everything,
so i think what must be done is to make it so.
Caldera has an installation that makes it easy for users to click "ok" all the way through.
Another thing is,
newbies of one area are not newbies in another.
Some newbies need to set their partitions, but have no idea what i daemon is.
Some others don't know what partitions are but know what packages they want.
There must be a way for newbies to "skip" only some choices, not all.
Lastly,
i think it is a bad bad bad idea not to explain root to users,
or make their computer some non-multiuser version.
this makes security worse. think win98.
Users should understand multiuser enviroments,
this is how linux works, and this is how it should work.
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The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck,
I wanted to say something really important,
so i begun a thread on a new story.
LAST POST!
Anyone posting after this post will die painfully.
You can continue on this thread if you worship budhah and have only 3 fingers -
But you'll have to use the subject line "Oogah majihombi".
Anyone refusing to this rule will die a slow and painful death,
while snails will eat you alive.
Enjoy!
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I'll be very happy not to see "system overload showing first 30 messages" again.
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The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck,
I heard quantum computers are related to parallel universes somehow,
and I heard about a "EPR bridge" on the tv show "sliders".
Can someone explain to me what does it mean?
Does it mean that every outcome of the superpositiion is in a different universe?
(ie for a 500 atom computer it will happend it 500^2 universes?)
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Usualy, I favor mp3 on any of the record companies.
:-))
The reason is that mp3 is a technology that can be used in many ways which are legal.
However, it seems to me as OSCAR streches that line.
It is made specificly to copy other artists work.
The reason is that it is devided into subdirectories as CDs.
Normally non copyrighted material does not come in CDs, rather it comes as seperate mp3 files.
This is because there is no need to sell it, thus usualy it is no contained in normal media.
(but rather on mp3s, and unsorted tape cassettes).
I think it is wrong to make such a device for the purpose of pirating copyrighter material,
which is the clear purpose of this device.
(that may be the purpose of RIO as well, but it's not "specificly designed for pirated music").
A good example is CDRs.
I agree many people put CDRs to use by burning warez and pirated things,
but many other use it for good reasons (burning debian for friends
If some CDR creator will put special warez abilities in the CDR I'm sure people will be against it,
though they use CDRs in their lives for non-warez purposes.
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"Steel from the rich and give to the poor",
more correctly put: "Make loads money by destroying other comapnies and then give it away".
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I am currently working on PUMP.
It is secure and will not allow any of many problems that can exist with messaging software, such as spoofing, sniffing, self-authorization, etc.
It will use PGP for authentication and encryption,
and will use digital certificates for contact list authorization.
It doesn't have a central servel, but it works similar to email. (ie user@server.net)
I'm working on it (biggo@netvision.net.il) with another guy (larry@lar.dyndns.org).
Contact me if you wish to help or join the project.
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"Would we put up the source code for Photoshop?" Warnock said. "Not in a million years. ... Well, maybe sometime in the future. But something like that is so horrendously complex, it is just not feasible -- the build mechanics are just too horrendous. But sure, if we needed help and the open-source community could provide it, absolutely."
That's very nice of him to say that.
They appreciate Open Source, because then people will do the job for them.
God, I'm eager to do their job and not be paid while they make money of it.
If I want to work on an Open Source Image Manipulation Program, I'll work on the Gimp.
Besides that, I think a good strategy for them is to work with BeOS.
If Be declared themselves as the media OS, I'm sure they can use Adobe's products, and vice versa.
Currently they don't even have "Acrobat reader" for BeOS....
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It doesn't work.
Source code or not, you'll get cracked, you can see it now, and you will later.
A good example of security through obscurity is ICQ,
and a good example of secure open source product is PGP (and GnuPG).
Your claim is that people will work, but when the key is found they will report it as a false one,
claiming the reward.
It is possible, I agree, but it is also possible now.
but - Making an opensource program will allow you to find problems.
Assume the new client will send in a false signal as a mistake if it was true, what would you do about that it nobody find it in the code?
What if someone finds quicker algorithms?
think about it.
Last thing, you contridict yourself.
If you can autodetect cracks,
how come you don't know if all the other people in the russian dude's team are fakes as well?
(you cut them off, appearantly)
Why did you have to talk to that guy (which was already detected to be a cracker)?
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I meant crack the key, not AS the key.
Let's assume the winning key is: 5577F332 (could it be? chances are 2^(-64) that it is).
Cheating the winner key would be saying that 5577F332 is a bad key.
This is the worst thing that can happed, it would force us to start the whole search from key 0.
(many months of work for waste)
Cheating as the winner key would be saying that key 4567AB67 (not the winner) is the winner.
This is a very small problem.
It will only make the distributed.net computer recheck if it is the winner.
(no more than a few cycles lost)
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You can't know who is making false keys.
;-)
:-(
That russian dude was both smart and stupid.
Technicly, he was smart enough to hack the client. Bravo to him on that.
But he was stupid enough to make gigakeys.
(assuming he did not want to get caught, just bring his team the honor of a high keyrate)
The problem is that many people could have cheated without raising suspicion.
Instead of doing 200 packets per day, they now do 5000, which is quite good, but not good enough to be noticed.
They might have reversed engineered the client,
that it will act as several users, each with a thousand or so keys.
So the cracker pretends to be 200 users, each with ~1000/day and joins them in a team,
he has a team of 200kpackets/day, and that's a lot.
AnandTech can be just that too.
(sorry if they are not this is an example)
One sudden say they passed slashdot with one user who is the daily number 1.
Is he legit? How come it was so sudden?
How did he dare passing team slashdot?
The problem is that "it's not cheating unless you get caught".
And who knows the actual "winner" key could have been cheated and we're working for nothing.
A solution is to request the client to do another task on the packet (or a part of it),
that is very fast in one way (nanoseconds) and a bit slower on the other (few seconds), like hashing.
It will only slow the actual keybreaking by 1%,
but cheaters will need to solve the hashing challange as well.
(though if they crack the client well, they can "speed up" by about 100 times)
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The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck,
The problem is that it doesn't matter how hard you work to secure your network,
,it's his fault.
if your user will tell his password to someone else, your work is in vain.
Melissa, ExploreZip, and Happy99 are good examples of this.
You try to build a good secure system for your users,
which in fact are smart enough not to tell anyone their passwords.
But the users did the mistake of having friends with Outlook...
(they are smart enough not to run exe files they get by mail)
Bam! Your mailserver is flooded.
(I think a solution would be to discard messages with "X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook"
and tell the sender about security problems with it)
What you can do is to revoke access for "security hazards".
If a user is too dumb to tell his password, tell him not to do so,
and tell him that if people do "bad things" to his data
If the user has access to important things, revoke his access.
Disallow insecure software, etc.
Also, use SATAN-alike tools (NESSUS is quite nice).
Bottom line:
A wall is as strong as its weakest brick,
so instead of trying to make a strong brick stronger,
try to take care of the weak ones.
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Basicly they say: "our software is as evil as Microsoft's!".
We should defend everything like that.
"A virus that reset's the computer without a warning? I thought Windows does the same!",
"...But it overwrites the MBR without asking! - And what does Windows installation do?",
"It fills memory with useless junk decreasing your computer speed to crawl, reminds you of anything?",
"It shows annoying dancing paperclips... Oh god, that's the worst virus ever created!!!"
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The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck,
I admit, I havn't read the article, but it's name was just ludicrous.
Come on, "Competition is a concern"?
Microsoft was founded to be THE competition.
Have they innovated anything and somebody competed against it?
As I recall, Microsoft sees a technology, steals it, and competes against it.
You may say it is the same, but think of a world without competition (scary, isn't it?),
Microsoft will not exist, since every product they would make had existed already!
The one product they have invented, Bob, was such a sucess,
that all the other comapies were afraid that if they copy it, it will never be as good.
In fact, Microsoft thought that since it is so good, they should discontinue it entirely,
so not to spoil it and ruin it's reputation of a bestseller.
(the following statement makes the same sense as the above ballmer's statement)
They say Linux competes with them.
They have competed against UNIX, and the truth is that Linux bites market shares mostly from Unices.
(though it gets the mindshare of NT admins)
The last thing ever they would want is the compatition to end,
where will they steal their features from?
They wouldn't like to be an only product, since new ideas mean more to them -
Without them, people will not upgrade,
and they would have less bloat. (remember the "love bloat" article written by that Microsoft developer?)
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The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck,
As I see we're in the dawn of a crazy IPO-mania.
With all hype today about internet, people think they can make money of it easily.
(I will not be surprised if the same people are the people that answer "make $$$ quick" scams).
Some hype has gone over MP3, and *bang* MP3.com sales like hotcakes.
Linux hype? Slashdot is allover that redhat IPO, and soon Caldera and SuSE.
Anti-Microsoft? BeOS IPO sells!
Portals and "Web"? See how much Yahoo and amazon makes!
Basicly all of these (except for BeOS and Amazon) give away their products for nothing,
but "they will make tons of cash" since they are buzzword related.
At the end these companies will fall down like pyramid scams,
this can hurt economy quite much when it does.
(my bet would be this december, just before "Y2K" hype).
Investors today don't care about the product, but the name.
I recall story of a model-boat company changing their name to boat.com -
they trippled their value within a day before the investors knew they only sell models of boats.
And this company may have revenues much higher than mp3.com
(again, how will they make money?)
This is also the case for the cybersquatters thinking "suckmypole" will sell for $1000s,
and wondering why noone buys from them.
Except for mp3.com and cnet, I havn't seen a website that's most of it's value is it's domain(s).
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The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck,
Ofcourse domain name is important. .com,
:-)
I'll give you a good example: c-net.
they have download.com and news.com developer.com...
Newbies have no idea what a "domain" is, and just type a word and
so if they are looking for news they will try news.com, if they are looking to downlaod something they will go to download.com
I think the best domain for this kind of things is sex.com
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The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck,
First of all, they are right, nobody's helping the project outside of netscape.
;-)) from us.
We are all cheering for them, but noone acts.
A few days ago i submitted a story about how mozilla wants us to help debug gecko,
it wasn't published, and you really should visit the page (at mozillazine).
We have to prove them wrong, not just wait for other people to work.
Working on Mozilla will provide a browser for all of us (even windows users
I think some of us have worked hard, people like the BeZilla team (not sponsered by netscape or be inc),
and the os/2 team, have made a good job by porting mozilla to their platform.
Why don't you help too?
There are many things to add and improve, and you can join too.
So - stop bitching that they won'y open source it, and prove them they should not close it again!
I don't know about you, but I'll start working on that whole bug-athon thing right now.
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The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck,
Benchmarks mean scratch, let's do some "real world" tests, shall we?
Let's make a "security" test, see which webserver can be exploited to hack your system.
But that wouldn't be fair, is it? afterall, nobody cares to hack you in the real world,
while if you server 2x static web pages, you're the king.
And uptime?
Doesn't mean shit.
Afterall, in the real world, who cares about making it servers run all the time,
they just want them to run for small tests, like this one.
And features?
Forget it, who needs PHP? or mod_perl?
And kernel features such as ip masquarading?
appearantly, nobody needs these anyway...
not in ther real world.
And the price?
doesn't count in the real world, because nobody pays the bill, per user.
Let's leave prices for our boss to worry about...
And they were so gracious letting us have NT clients.
What about unix clients?
let's see how can NT scale with NFS!
Let show them we are good with benchmark,
since it is exactly like the real world.
I, however, don't give a damn about the results.
So Bill's penis is larger than linus'? get over it.
we will show them we are better - in the real world.
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The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck,