Wow, so now I'm an idiot for trying to hammer the truth into ignorant heads.
It's so classy and so convincing to resort to namecalling when you have nothing better to say.
And in case you missed that fact too, THAT WAS SARCASM.
You just lost all respect. Go find something better to do than to flail like a total lunatic instead of admitting that everything has just wooshed over your head. Really. It's OK to admit it.
It is very relevant when you're accusing someone of doing something that only the government can be guilty of. I swear, some people are willing to keep arguing even when they're totally clueless.
And if they don't, that still makes it OK for you to use your digital "I'm such a selfish jerk that my opinion goes and no one else's does" asshole box? By the way, before you start screaming about how it's safe to use that if phones are allowed, you better look into how picocells work to damp down the strength of phone transmissions to make them safe for planes. Your asshole-box won't do the same.
If the airline allows someone to do something and they do it, that's not a breach of the peace, that's OBEYING THE RULES. You can either fly a carrier that doesn't allow phones in flight, you can not fly, you can find one that has a "quiet section" or you can put up or shut up.
THOSE are your choices.
Not extending your ego and preferences onto other people who have no desire to bow to your whims.
It's a crime violsting the highest law of the land:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Again, ONLY THE GOVERNMENT CAN CENSOR. And it's specifically forbidden them to do so.
So, yes it is illegal for that reason.
You can't prosecute a private entity for censorship BECAUSE IT IS NOT CENSORSHIP IN THAT CASE!
My god, no wonder this country has gone to hell in a handbasket. People seem to have failed or forgotten basic civics!
I see you're so "tech savvy" that you can't even spell it. Nice.
And I don't give a flying fuck about your ears when you're putting lives in danger. On the ground, fine, jam them.
But apparently you are either too stupid, or selfish, or both, to realize why it is totally unacceptable to do that on a plane.
You are no better than the asshole who bitched at me for daring to use the recline feature of my seat. What is it about flying that turns people into slackjawed drooling selfish jerks?
I paid for a seat. That includes all features of said seat. I don't pay for a seat only for some rude asshole to tell me that I'm an asshole for using a feature of the seat I PAID FOR.
Don't want me to use a feature of the seat?
Either put up with it or make it worth my while to forgo something I PAID FOR.
Then I suggest you read the regulations regarding air travel which say you have to obey ALL flight crew instructions, which include telling you to shut down all electronic devices that broadcast. OK, so it's not federal prison, but it's still prison all the same. And I don't have to prove it, I just have to tell the cabin crew that you have such a device and they'll tell you to turn it off.
Or do you really think you're that special that your desire for silence is that much more important than other peoples' lives? Get some fucking earplugs.
Now you're just nitpicking to keep on arguing. You can't prosecute, so it's not censorship -- it's just elimination of information. If it were actually prosecutable, THEN it would be censorship.
... and wind up in federal prison for violating the rules that bar you from using any device that emits a signal while on a plane. On the ground, I would be sympathetic to your position, but try that shit on a plane and I'll make sure the flight crew knows all about your little stunt that puts everyone in danger.
Ah, so I'm an asshole for using a feature of the seat that the airlines purchased and had installed when the plane was built? Seems to me like you're so selfish that you think you get to dictate what I do with the seat I paid to occupy for X amount of time. Hey, if you don't like it, go to a seat that either has no seat in front of it, a seat in front that doesn't recline, or has more seat pitch.
Because private business can do whatever it wants, including blocking the flow of information, with its own property.
Government, in the US, is not allowed to repress freedom of speech. Therefore, the government is not allowed to do whatever it wants due to the First Amendment.
I guess you really haven't seen all the debates about this in which the topic has been repeatedly pounded into the ground.
Unfortunately, people are too damn scared of talking to strangers these days for that plan to work. I don't mind if someone I don't know talks to me as long as they're not an asshole, but several times recently I've walked up to a stranger to compliment them and I either get a blank stare, surprise, or a glare. Only once did I get a pleasant reaction.
If someone does something you don't like, and talking to them isn't an option, you can always move away from them or not look at the offensive thing they are doing.
While your tips are good ones for promoting polite behavior, and I fully agree with them, I do have to agree with your opposition that you have no right to tell other people how to behave. You wouldn't like it if someone did it to you, would you?
Just yesterday I posted an opinion on a discussion forum that included no personal attacks or anything of the sort, and a responder personally attacked me using information about me that had nothing to do with my opinion, and then that person and others couldn't understand why I reacted with anger and used their inflammatory tone of voice right back at them. They apparently couldn't understand that their own prejudiced bullshit attitudes had brought my response upon them, and failed to comprehend the "do unto others" rule.
As you don't seem to. You expect someone else to conform to what YOU want them to do and are yelling "OMG THE CHILDREN!" as an excuse to justify the fact that you're all take and no give.
"An accessory must generally have knowledge that a crime is being, or will be committed. A person with such knowledge may become an accessory by helping or encouraging the criminal in some way, or simply by failing to report the crime to proper authority. The assistance to the criminal may be of any type, including emotional or financial assistance as well as physical assistance or concealment."
Furthermore, quoting from the same article:
The U.S. criminal code makes aiding and abetting a federal crime itself a crime:
(...)
A person may be convicted of aiding and abetting any act made criminal under the code. The elements of aiding and abetting are, generally:
(1) guilty knowledge on the part of the accused (the mens rea);
(2) the commission of an offense by someone; and
(3) the defendant assisted or participated in the commission of the offense (the actus reus).
A common exception: you can't testify against your spouse.
You did notice that we are not talking about the Middle East, right? That's fine and dandy when you're there, but contrary to what the US seems to think these days, laws in other countries don't apply anywhere but there.
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Heaven forbid people call their friends/relatives to inform them of arrival and ask for rides home...
God forbid people stand up for trying to educate people.
Look, let's just quit fighting, since it's obvious that nothing is going to change.
Wow, so now I'm an idiot for trying to hammer the truth into ignorant heads.
It's so classy and so convincing to resort to namecalling when you have nothing better to say.
And in case you missed that fact too, THAT WAS SARCASM.
You just lost all respect. Go find something better to do than to flail like a total lunatic instead of admitting that everything has just wooshed over your head. Really. It's OK to admit it.
It is very relevant when you're accusing someone of doing something that only the government can be guilty of. I swear, some people are willing to keep arguing even when they're totally clueless.
And if they don't, that still makes it OK for you to use your digital "I'm such a selfish jerk that my opinion goes and no one else's does" asshole box? By the way, before you start screaming about how it's safe to use that if phones are allowed, you better look into how picocells work to damp down the strength of phone transmissions to make them safe for planes. Your asshole-box won't do the same.
If the airline allows someone to do something and they do it, that's not a breach of the peace, that's OBEYING THE RULES. You can either fly a carrier that doesn't allow phones in flight, you can not fly, you can find one that has a "quiet section" or you can put up or shut up.
THOSE are your choices.
Not extending your ego and preferences onto other people who have no desire to bow to your whims.
It's a crime violsting the highest law of the land:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Again, ONLY THE GOVERNMENT CAN CENSOR. And it's specifically forbidden them to do so.
So, yes it is illegal for that reason.
You can't prosecute a private entity for censorship BECAUSE IT IS NOT CENSORSHIP IN THAT CASE!
My god, no wonder this country has gone to hell in a handbasket. People seem to have failed or forgotten basic civics!
Again, not so. If private business does it it's just omission of information. Censorship is omission of information -- by the government.
I haven't lost anything. YOU did when you "proved" that your selfish needs are better than everyone else's.
Actually, by using a device that emits a signal on a plane, you ARE interfering with the aircraft's onboard avionics.
There's a reason why cell phones and other transmitters have to be turned off in a plane.
It doesn't matter what other risks there are. It matters that transmitters also pose a risk.
Don't you think you're being awful petty by thinking you're so important that the rules don't apply to you?
You're not that special.
I see you're so "tech savvy" that you can't even spell it. Nice.
And I don't give a flying fuck about your ears when you're putting lives in danger. On the ground, fine, jam them.
But apparently you are either too stupid, or selfish, or both, to realize why it is totally unacceptable to do that on a plane.
You are no better than the asshole who bitched at me for daring to use the recline feature of my seat. What is it about flying that turns people into slackjawed drooling selfish jerks?
I don't know, but you're no better than that guy.
I paid for a seat. That includes all features of said seat. I don't pay for a seat only for some rude asshole to tell me that I'm an asshole for using a feature of the seat I PAID FOR.
Don't want me to use a feature of the seat?
Either put up with it or make it worth my while to forgo something I PAID FOR.
Ditto.
Okay.
Try getting them prosecuted for censorship.
Tell us what happens.
Then I suggest you read the regulations regarding air travel which say you have to obey ALL flight crew instructions, which include telling you to shut down all electronic devices that broadcast. OK, so it's not federal prison, but it's still prison all the same. And I don't have to prove it, I just have to tell the cabin crew that you have such a device and they'll tell you to turn it off.
Or do you really think you're that special that your desire for silence is that much more important than other peoples' lives? Get some fucking earplugs.
Now you're just nitpicking to keep on arguing. You can't prosecute, so it's not censorship -- it's just elimination of information. If it were actually prosecutable, THEN it would be censorship.
... and wind up in federal prison for violating the rules that bar you from using any device that emits a signal while on a plane. On the ground, I would be sympathetic to your position, but try that shit on a plane and I'll make sure the flight crew knows all about your little stunt that puts everyone in danger.
Ah, so I'm an asshole for using a feature of the seat that the airlines purchased and had installed when the plane was built? Seems to me like you're so selfish that you think you get to dictate what I do with the seat I paid to occupy for X amount of time. Hey, if you don't like it, go to a seat that either has no seat in front of it, a seat in front that doesn't recline, or has more seat pitch.
Gotta love that "me first, screw you" attitude.
Because private business can do whatever it wants, including blocking the flow of information, with its own property.
Government, in the US, is not allowed to repress freedom of speech. Therefore, the government is not allowed to do whatever it wants due to the First Amendment.
I guess you really haven't seen all the debates about this in which the topic has been repeatedly pounded into the ground.
Last time I drove from STL to CHI I did it in 5.5 hours. Got 31mpg too. Amtrak is a possibility for next time I go, but how on-time is that train?
Unfortunately, people are too damn scared of talking to strangers these days for that plan to work. I don't mind if someone I don't know talks to me as long as they're not an asshole, but several times recently I've walked up to a stranger to compliment them and I either get a blank stare, surprise, or a glare. Only once did I get a pleasant reaction.
If someone does something you don't like, and talking to them isn't an option, you can always move away from them or not look at the offensive thing they are doing.
While your tips are good ones for promoting polite behavior, and I fully agree with them, I do have to agree with your opposition that you have no right to tell other people how to behave. You wouldn't like it if someone did it to you, would you?
Just yesterday I posted an opinion on a discussion forum that included no personal attacks or anything of the sort, and a responder personally attacked me using information about me that had nothing to do with my opinion, and then that person and others couldn't understand why I reacted with anger and used their inflammatory tone of voice right back at them. They apparently couldn't understand that their own prejudiced bullshit attitudes had brought my response upon them, and failed to comprehend the "do unto others" rule.
As you don't seem to. You expect someone else to conform to what YOU want them to do and are yelling "OMG THE CHILDREN!" as an excuse to justify the fact that you're all take and no give.
Sorry. Ain't gonna fly, pun intended.
... does it let me share my own media files instead of thinking it knows better than I do what I want to do with my own stuff?
As do I, dipshit.
By the way, by failing to report a crime you may in some jurisdictions become an accessory:
Accessory (legal term) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"An accessory must generally have knowledge that a crime is being, or will be committed. A person with such knowledge may become an accessory by helping or encouraging the criminal in some way, or simply by failing to report the crime to proper authority. The assistance to the criminal may be of any type, including emotional or financial assistance as well as physical assistance or concealment."
Furthermore, quoting from the same article:
The U.S. criminal code makes aiding and abetting a federal crime itself a crime:
(...)
A person may be convicted of aiding and abetting any act made criminal under the code. The elements of aiding and abetting are, generally:
(1) guilty knowledge on the part of the accused (the mens rea);
(2) the commission of an offense by someone; and
(3) the defendant assisted or participated in the commission of the offense (the actus reus).
A common exception: you can't testify against your spouse.
Now, take your judgmental attitude and shove it.
You did notice that we are not talking about the Middle East, right? That's fine and dandy when you're there, but contrary to what the US seems to think these days, laws in other countries don't apply anywhere but there.
Hello, judgmental asshat who ad hominems people instead of just posting an informative followup. Now who's the dickwad, asshole?