Why couldn't he open it? Isn't one of the big points of Open Office the fact that it saves in.doc format? Word can't open its own format now? Now that's insane...
but you'll probably get dirty looks from the manager whenever you tell anyone about it.
I've gotten dirty looks from store personnel for steering people away from overpriced crap before of various types, and I either ignore them or glare right back. It's not my job to make a store money. Heck it's not my job to help anyone at all, but that's the kind of person I am. If a store is ripping people off and enough people become educated about it, the store will then just have more incentive to change its ways.
You think uni cares about saving their students' money? You obviously havn't seen any of my bills.
Or their faculty, either. My father, the 40+-year tenured chem professor who mostly does research, has given many a rant on his university's practice of "overhead" in which they get a cut of anything you order for your research, even if you are funded by an outside institution (in this case, the DoE). And the fee for a full faculty parking permit is so high on this campus that he refuses to buy one and instead buys the midlevel pass and walks a little farther every day. And he's hardly the only one to do that.
And that's the problem right there. You have to learn, and read, the syntax yourself.
No. You don't. My father is a chemistry professor and has been for something like 40+ years now and he did learn the syntax himself (he used to write his papers in a text editor) but now he uses a WYSIWYG application:
The papers he sends to journals look very, very close to what the journal actually prepares for publication, although it's not exactly the same because journals have their own style that they change things to match.
You can be compliant with all of the standards in the world, but if you don't do the things people can do in IE, in the same manner, you're SOL.
I clearly state on sites I build that they're standards compliant. Complaints saying "it doesn't work" yield a response of "Talk to your software publisher. If they refuse to fix it, here's some software that will work".
Catering to stupidity is only going to further the situation, so I refuse to do it. If you make crappy software, it's not my problem. If you USE crappy software, that's not my problem either.
I mostly haven't been scared off yet, although the amount of sheer crap posted on here by a lot of people puts me off joining into the discussions much of the time.
Why the fuck are we afraid of toothpaste after the feds spent billions on new carryon scanners and new checked scanners? TOOTHPASTE.
What exactly did all that money buy? Color monitors on the scanners? There's no excuse for this shit.
I may be taking one more flight since I'd already bought the ticket but I'm seriously considering Amtrak for my next trip next month. It's cheaper for once, no stupid bullshit (why don't we have to go through all this crap to drive? Statistically it's far more dangerous), and you can get up and walk around, and bring your own damn food.
When you park in a garage, you get to choose when you get your car, not someone else. If you want it back and they don't do everything they can to return it (and it sounds like the garage is not broken, just needs to be turned on) then yes, I am going to sue. Fee too steep? shouldn't have come up with bullshit reasons to not start the system back up and remove all of the cars.
And who are you to decide what's reasonable? I need my car right now to get to work. I need my job to survive. And I need to be compensated for the cost of a rental and anything else that I can't do because the city has refused to do everything it can to get my car back, and bullshit excuses to not start up a perfectly workable garage don't count as doing everything. Collapsed or physically broken would be one thing, this is another.
And the city has committed theft by saying "no, you can't have your car back" when it's not their property to decide.
If my car were in there I'd be filing a complaint with the police as well as filing a lawsuit demanding a rather steep rental fee. I have never seen terms from any parking garage that say "we reserve the right to refuse to give you your car back". I think my rental fee is $1000 a day, sounds about right...
Don't like it? Tell the CIVIL complaint to go to hell and avoid CRIMINAL charges by giving me my fucking car.
implied that him not giving a shit about the Mac platform was the equivalent of tacitly supporting war and atrocities
I said that the attitude of whining and doing nothing has led to atrocities. I didn't say that the specific whine in question had anything to do with said war and atrocities.
I've already said several times now that it's the attitude I'm attacking, not the person. And I'm repeating myself. Again.
I already said in one of the other comments that I posted that I do support Mac game developers by buying them. That's the way in which I can. So you were saying?
Then don't whine that you think situation X should be improved if you have no intention of doing a thing about it. That angers me, as you've seen. Not you personally, but the attitude. I am sick and tired of all the bullshit that flies back and forth of that nature. If you really think it's so bad, and should be fixed, fix it... or don't contribute to the crap pile. Please.
Uh huh. So calling someone for posting a whiny "if only things were different" post without also posting "I don't like the way things are, but I'm doing something about it" or "Here is what I am going to do about it" or "this is why I can't do anything about it, but here's what you can do about it" is a straw man?
1. I said "up to". Depends on who you ask. Like I said.
2. Whatever is stopping anyone from making the necessary code changes, or coding crossplatform in the first place? Blizzard can do it -- that is, when they have actual product; I haven't seen anything new come out of them in a while.
3. Anything can be improved if enough people stood up and said "no, the way things are is wrong and I'm going to do something about it." The approach varies a bit from situation to situation and person to person, but apathy has never fixed anything while people giving a damn has.
4. So take your waste to a place that will take it -- ever look in the local phone book for recycling centers?, petition for a change in recycling suppliers at work, take it to a city/suburb that will take it and place it in a recycle bin there at the appropriate time (or take it home if your area offers it, mine does). Yes, I've done this. Yes, my coworkers have done those things. Takes effort? Hell yeah, but it's the right thing to do.
5. You do know there are employers that are willing to do the right thing. Find them. Work for one of them. Start a business. Work for a nonprofit. There are plenty of answers to that one. Oh yeah, that effort thing again.
6. Ego? Just a conscience that won't let me sit still and do nothing when I see people coming up with excuses to sit around and whine on the net rather than get involved, and they CAN but they won't, and I'm sick and fucking tired of being shafted by that attitude. Notice that I've never directly called anyone names or stupid or anything, just attacked the bullshit.
I really am not sure what the actual numbers are and I know that by use it varies, which is why I said "up to". Hopefully someone has a survey link handy but regardless of surveys, I know there's plenty of demand -- I've heard people personally ask me how to run game X on their Mac (I do tech support at work and for friends and family) and there really is a ton of demand out there that a lot of people don't know about.
But if I grew a pair I'd have to get that looked at, because then I'd be a hermaphrodite, and that's not what I really want, so no thank you. And don't you dare put words in my mouth -- I never said to fix every problem by yourself.
I said that instead of sitting around and posting whines on the net, get up and find out how you personally can contribute to the problems you disagree with, in any way you can. I do my part to reduce energy demands, and I try to get others to do the same because it's the responsible thing to do and because it cuts others a money/price break, too, when things don't cost as much because the out-of-hand demand curtails itself some. As for the Middle East, don't you think people haven't been trying? But they seem determined to kill each other -- and that is their right as sovereign nations and as a people. But the discussion of when to meddle and when not to in that particular mess is out of place here.
Oh, and by the way, wanting to make things better doesn't mean any of those people are living in a "fantasy world". That sounds to me like the typical lazy-ass "I don't want to change because it'd cost too much or cost actual effort" general-public bullshit answer. It's easier to name-call than actually try, right?
So the attitude of "if you don't like something enough to bitch about it, then DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT" is bullshit? Yeah, tell that to the Sierra Club, the Nature Society, the National Space Society, Armadillo Aerospace, Burt Rutan, the EFF, the ACLU, the NAACP, your local school board, anyone who has actually petitioned local government about something, anyone who has voted, and scores of anyone who's actually done something about they don't like that their actions were pointless.
"There's money in them thar hills" is not an excuse for twiddling your thumbs and doing nothing. In fact, caring about nothing but money has led to some of the worst atrocities, of all kinds (wars, bullshit laws, dictatorships, you name it) in history.
Macs have, depending on who you ask, anything up to a 15% market share. Macs are owned by people who tend to have more to spend on computers and software, since they accept a higher initial cost for lower costs down the road, and they are great machines and are quite capable of running the latest games.
If you want the world to change, you need to get off your ass and do something about it instead of bitching and whining and leaving it up to someone else to fix it. I have no respect for the lazy or the armchair world-changers.
I want us to live a more sustainable lifestyle and I practice that, including recycling far more than most people do and driving a small fuel-efficient car and minimizing my driving and living close to where I work and working for a responsible company (a university). I actively encourage those I know to do the same.
It's people like me who are going to create the changes for the better, not just regarding the environment but in other ways too (I'm a Mac user and I've bought Mac games, for instance), not those like the grandparent who just are content to sit on their butts and say "if it were like..." but don't lift a damn finger to make it happen.
Seems like the generation I'm part of is all about talk and no action.
I am opposed to the stem cell bill on libertarian grounds: i.e. the gov't is simply not authorized and should not get involved.
So you're against a bill that would undo a stupid government decision that changed the government funding from "whatever you want to work on" (which I think does an equally good job of keeping the government's nose out of the business of deciding what to work on and what not to) to "whatever you want BUT this because of whatever bullshit reason we have to say it's wrong"... ?
If you're against government interference, you should be for allowing all research or allowing none, rather than supporting the continuation of "thou shalt do anything you want BUT this" crap.
... argh. instead of "can be infallible", should say "can make mistakes or just plain don't remember correctly even though they try in good faith to". damnit.
In any case, it's not really fair to call the guy a liar when the whole thing involves being called a liar by companies that don't exactly have reputations for being pinnacles of integrity. Of course, when considering this, one has to realize that it's not fair to call him a cheat, either.
I find it hard to believe because (a) the company stated that there was a contract; and (b) the poster was wishy-washy about what happened during the registration process, meaning it's very possible that "I Agree" was clicked somehwere, or that contract terms were otherwise overlooked.
And people don't lie when it furthers their aims, especially when money is involved? Just ask Ken Lay (oh, wait, you can't; he got out of paying for his crimes); and people can be infallible -- that's why I pointed out that we need a copy of the actual terms, in full.
But what if the guy is right, and he really is remembering that there was no contract mentioned? Or what if they're both right, and he didn't have to agree to a contract because he never installed anything that would impose one, and the company is assuming that like all the other Joe Sixpacks out there, he installed their software, and is basing its information on that? (this falls into the region of "we can't admit that it's possible to get around our money-grubbing, so we're going to bullshit him until he caves").
I am avoiding saying that either of them is right or wrong because there just isn't enough information, and when it comes down to it, this is about money. People will lie, cheat, and steal (whether deliberately or not) to get more of it.
I just can't believe there wasn't some sort of contract "agreed to" in some sort of way.
A side query -- why not? I didn't have to agree to a contract when I signed up for cable Internet service in my area. It's not unreasonable to believe that there might just be some services that really don't require contracts, especially since plenty of people weren't subjected to contracts for the same type of service.
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Why couldn't he open it? Isn't one of the big points of Open Office the fact that it saves in .doc format? Word can't open its own format now? Now that's insane ...
but you'll probably get dirty looks from the manager whenever you tell anyone about it.
I've gotten dirty looks from store personnel for steering people away from overpriced crap before of various types, and I either ignore them or glare right back. It's not my job to make a store money. Heck it's not my job to help anyone at all, but that's the kind of person I am. If a store is ripping people off and enough people become educated about it, the store will then just have more incentive to change its ways.
You think uni cares about saving their students' money? You obviously havn't seen any of my bills.
Or their faculty, either. My father, the 40+-year tenured chem professor who mostly does research, has given many a rant on his university's practice of "overhead" in which they get a cut of anything you order for your research, even if you are funded by an outside institution (in this case, the DoE). And the fee for a full faculty parking permit is so high on this campus that he refuses to buy one and instead buys the midlevel pass and walks a little farther every day. And he's hardly the only one to do that.
And that's the problem right there. You have to learn, and read, the syntax yourself.
No. You don't. My father is a chemistry professor and has been for something like 40+ years now and he did learn the syntax himself (he used to write his papers in a text editor) but now he uses a WYSIWYG application:
MacKichan Software - The Home of Scientific WorkPlace, Scientific Word, and Scientific Notebook
The papers he sends to journals look very, very close to what the journal actually prepares for publication, although it's not exactly the same because journals have their own style that they change things to match.
Flash 8 was released almost a year ago and it still isn't available for Linux!
June 29 is out of date?
Adobe - Adobe Press Room: For immediate release
And they're working on a Linux version, so again, what's the complaint?
Emmy Huang: Yes, Virginia, there will be a Flash Player 9 for Linux
You can be compliant with all of the standards in the world, but if you don't do the things people can do in IE, in the same manner, you're SOL.
I clearly state on sites I build that they're standards compliant. Complaints saying "it doesn't work" yield a response of "Talk to your software publisher. If they refuse to fix it, here's some software that will work".
Catering to stupidity is only going to further the situation, so I refuse to do it. If you make crappy software, it's not my problem. If you USE crappy software, that's not my problem either.
Or perhaps it's no longer a parody but the actual truth. Corporations will do quite a bit to force us to give them money.
I mostly haven't been scared off yet, although the amount of sheer crap posted on here by a lot of people puts me off joining into the discussions much of the time.
Yes, I do have a better idea.
Why the fuck are we afraid of toothpaste after the feds spent billions on new carryon scanners and new checked scanners? TOOTHPASTE.
What exactly did all that money buy? Color monitors on the scanners? There's no excuse for this shit.
I may be taking one more flight since I'd already bought the ticket but I'm seriously considering Amtrak for my next trip next month. It's cheaper for once, no stupid bullshit (why don't we have to go through all this crap to drive? Statistically it's far more dangerous), and you can get up and walk around, and bring your own damn food.
When you park in a garage, you get to choose when you get your car, not someone else. If you want it back and they don't do everything they can to return it (and it sounds like the garage is not broken, just needs to be turned on) then yes, I am going to sue. Fee too steep? shouldn't have come up with bullshit reasons to not start the system back up and remove all of the cars.
And who are you to decide what's reasonable? I need my car right now to get to work. I need my job to survive. And I need to be compensated for the cost of a rental and anything else that I can't do because the city has refused to do everything it can to get my car back, and bullshit excuses to not start up a perfectly workable garage don't count as doing everything. Collapsed or physically broken would be one thing, this is another.
And the city has committed theft by saying "no, you can't have your car back" when it's not their property to decide.
...
If my car were in there I'd be filing a complaint with the police as well as filing a lawsuit demanding a rather steep rental fee. I have never seen terms from any parking garage that say "we reserve the right to refuse to give you your car back". I think my rental fee is $1000 a day, sounds about right
Don't like it? Tell the CIVIL complaint to go to hell and avoid CRIMINAL charges by giving me my fucking car.
implied that him not giving a shit about the Mac platform was the equivalent of tacitly supporting war and atrocities
I said that the attitude of whining and doing nothing has led to atrocities. I didn't say that the specific whine in question had anything to do with said war and atrocities.
I've already said several times now that it's the attitude I'm attacking, not the person. And I'm repeating myself. Again.
I already said in one of the other comments that I posted that I do support Mac game developers by buying them. That's the way in which I can. So you were saying?
I've sometimes thought that being polydactyl could make life interesting.
Then don't whine that you think situation X should be improved if you have no intention of doing a thing about it. That angers me, as you've seen. Not you personally, but the attitude. I am sick and tired of all the bullshit that flies back and forth of that nature. If you really think it's so bad, and should be fixed, fix it ... or don't contribute to the crap pile. Please.
Uh huh. So calling someone for posting a whiny "if only things were different" post without also posting "I don't like the way things are, but I'm doing something about it" or "Here is what I am going to do about it" or "this is why I can't do anything about it, but here's what you can do about it" is a straw man?
Sounds to me like more excuses to do nothing.
1. I said "up to". Depends on who you ask. Like I said.
2. Whatever is stopping anyone from making the necessary code changes, or coding crossplatform in the first place? Blizzard can do it -- that is, when they have actual product; I haven't seen anything new come out of them in a while.
3. Anything can be improved if enough people stood up and said "no, the way things are is wrong and I'm going to do something about it." The approach varies a bit from situation to situation and person to person, but apathy has never fixed anything while people giving a damn has.
4. So take your waste to a place that will take it -- ever look in the local phone book for recycling centers?, petition for a change in recycling suppliers at work, take it to a city/suburb that will take it and place it in a recycle bin there at the appropriate time (or take it home if your area offers it, mine does). Yes, I've done this. Yes, my coworkers have done those things. Takes effort? Hell yeah, but it's the right thing to do.
5. You do know there are employers that are willing to do the right thing. Find them. Work for one of them. Start a business. Work for a nonprofit. There are plenty of answers to that one. Oh yeah, that effort thing again.
6. Ego? Just a conscience that won't let me sit still and do nothing when I see people coming up with excuses to sit around and whine on the net rather than get involved, and they CAN but they won't, and I'm sick and fucking tired of being shafted by that attitude. Notice that I've never directly called anyone names or stupid or anything, just attacked the bullshit.
I really am not sure what the actual numbers are and I know that by use it varies, which is why I said "up to". Hopefully someone has a survey link handy but regardless of surveys, I know there's plenty of demand -- I've heard people personally ask me how to run game X on their Mac (I do tech support at work and for friends and family) and there really is a ton of demand out there that a lot of people don't know about.
But if I grew a pair I'd have to get that looked at, because then I'd be a hermaphrodite, and that's not what I really want, so no thank you. And don't you dare put words in my mouth -- I never said to fix every problem by yourself.
I said that instead of sitting around and posting whines on the net, get up and find out how you personally can contribute to the problems you disagree with, in any way you can. I do my part to reduce energy demands, and I try to get others to do the same because it's the responsible thing to do and because it cuts others a money/price break, too, when things don't cost as much because the out-of-hand demand curtails itself some. As for the Middle East, don't you think people haven't been trying? But they seem determined to kill each other -- and that is their right as sovereign nations and as a people. But the discussion of when to meddle and when not to in that particular mess is out of place here.
Oh, and by the way, wanting to make things better doesn't mean any of those people are living in a "fantasy world". That sounds to me like the typical lazy-ass "I don't want to change because it'd cost too much or cost actual effort" general-public bullshit answer. It's easier to name-call than actually try, right?
So the attitude of "if you don't like something enough to bitch about it, then DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT" is bullshit? Yeah, tell that to the Sierra Club, the Nature Society, the National Space Society, Armadillo Aerospace, Burt Rutan, the EFF, the ACLU, the NAACP, your local school board, anyone who has actually petitioned local government about something, anyone who has voted, and scores of anyone who's actually done something about they don't like that their actions were pointless.
"There's money in them thar hills" is not an excuse for twiddling your thumbs and doing nothing. In fact, caring about nothing but money has led to some of the worst atrocities, of all kinds (wars, bullshit laws, dictatorships, you name it) in history.
Yeah, great way to behave.
So Mac = Linux? Huh?
..." but don't lift a damn finger to make it happen.
Macs have, depending on who you ask, anything up to a 15% market share. Macs are owned by people who tend to have more to spend on computers and software, since they accept a higher initial cost for lower costs down the road, and they are great machines and are quite capable of running the latest games.
If you want the world to change, you need to get off your ass and do something about it instead of bitching and whining and leaving it up to someone else to fix it. I have no respect for the lazy or the armchair world-changers.
I want us to live a more sustainable lifestyle and I practice that, including recycling far more than most people do and driving a small fuel-efficient car and minimizing my driving and living close to where I work and working for a responsible company (a university). I actively encourage those I know to do the same.
It's people like me who are going to create the changes for the better, not just regarding the environment but in other ways too (I'm a Mac user and I've bought Mac games, for instance), not those like the grandparent who just are content to sit on their butts and say "if it were like
Seems like the generation I'm part of is all about talk and no action.
So yeah, grow a pair.
You do realize that your very attitude is helping to foster the situation you are complaining about, don't you? Grow a pair and fix it.
I am opposed to the stem cell bill on libertarian grounds: i.e. the gov't is simply not authorized and should not get involved.
... ?
So you're against a bill that would undo a stupid government decision that changed the government funding from "whatever you want to work on" (which I think does an equally good job of keeping the government's nose out of the business of deciding what to work on and what not to) to "whatever you want BUT this because of whatever bullshit reason we have to say it's wrong"
If you're against government interference, you should be for allowing all research or allowing none, rather than supporting the continuation of "thou shalt do anything you want BUT this" crap.
... argh. instead of "can be infallible", should say "can make mistakes or just plain don't remember correctly even though they try in good faith to". damnit.
In any case, it's not really fair to call the guy a liar when the whole thing involves being called a liar by companies that don't exactly have reputations for being pinnacles of integrity. Of course, when considering this, one has to realize that it's not fair to call him a cheat, either.
We need the terms.
I find it hard to believe because (a) the company stated that there was a contract; and (b) the poster was wishy-washy about what happened during the registration process, meaning it's very possible that "I Agree" was clicked somehwere, or that contract terms were otherwise overlooked.
And people don't lie when it furthers their aims, especially when money is involved? Just ask Ken Lay (oh, wait, you can't; he got out of paying for his crimes); and people can be infallible -- that's why I pointed out that we need a copy of the actual terms, in full.
But what if the guy is right, and he really is remembering that there was no contract mentioned? Or what if they're both right, and he didn't have to agree to a contract because he never installed anything that would impose one, and the company is assuming that like all the other Joe Sixpacks out there, he installed their software, and is basing its information on that? (this falls into the region of "we can't admit that it's possible to get around our money-grubbing, so we're going to bullshit him until he caves").
I am avoiding saying that either of them is right or wrong because there just isn't enough information, and when it comes down to it, this is about money. People will lie, cheat, and steal (whether deliberately or not) to get more of it.
I just can't believe there wasn't some sort of contract "agreed to" in some sort of way.
A side query -- why not? I didn't have to agree to a contract when I signed up for cable Internet service in my area. It's not unreasonable to believe that there might just be some services that really don't require contracts, especially since plenty of people weren't subjected to contracts for the same type of service.