Interesting. Is there really any benefit from transmitting this rather that shipping cell? Security? Or is it just a PR gimmic?
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I have been anticipating this movie since my son and I saw the first trailers for it last year (think when we saw Iron Giant). Looks really cool, and I'm taking my son to see this the first weekend it comes out. (yah, I get burned once in a while seeing something before friends give me their recommendation, but usually it works out)
On a side note, ever notice how the movie studios release different trailers and teasers that paint different pictures of the movie? The first 15-second teaser showed mostly space shots and had classical music. Then the next one I saw on TV showed the animated characters with a song by Creed. The latest one I saw in the theater seems to focus more on the evil aliens and has what sounds like the soundtrack from that James Spader, Kurt Russel, Egyptian-like Movie (uh... oh yeah -- Stargate).
This seems to happen all the time. You see a trailer for a movie with a certain mood created by the clips and the music. Then you get to the theater and the soundtrack is all different from what you were expecting. I've had conversations with my wife about this -- do they plan this to set expectations based on how individuals associate with music they recognize? I can't remember any movies I've seen (maybe except some Disney flicks with Elton John tunes) where the trailers had any of the actual score.
>then that's their decision and no amount of money should change it.
Right, but the point of the article (you did read it, right?;-) ) is to ask the KDE project to ammend the license to make it palatable to Debian, not for Debian to take US$3000 to look the other way (at least that's what it looks like to me when I read it.)
Thus, there is only one realistic solution to the problem: All GPLed code in KDE2 has to include a licence that amends the GPL with the following exception clause: "This program is distributed under the GNU GPL v2, with the additional permission that it may be linked against all versions of Troll Tech's Qt library that are distributed under the QPL, and is distributed without the GPL applying to Qt"./I.
This isn't about what is legal and what is not, in my mind. How much money do you think Offspring had hoped to make off Napster t-shirts? I really don't think this was about just making a few bucks on the side, more about making a statement. I think it's brilliant. It exposes the true nature of the beast, not the PR image that they would like you to see of the saviours of free music battling the evil monsters of big record labels.
When I saw the blurb the other day about Offspring selling Napster merchandise, I kind of went, 'huh? What is that about?' Now it is clear as crystal. They can stop selling shirts and caps today, hell -- they may never have even sold _any_, and the point is made. Napster is a commercial interest, just like any other. They are out to make a buck (nothing wrong with that, I've made a buck or two myself) and will defend their interests by whatever means they must use, even sicking their lawyers on someone.
But enough of the 'freedom fighter' crap, already. We see you now for what you are. Kinda cool how they got maneuvered into this situation. Kinda like a good game of chess.
>And this is for precisely the same reason you may see disclaimers in restaurants that say "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone".
Sure, but you can walk right across the street and be served at McD's or go into the corner grocery store and buy food, you won't go without food.
What about phone service or electric? "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason" would be a problem in that case because you have no real alternative provider. You paid your bills on time, was always polite on the phone, turned off the lights when you left the room, but the phone and electric companies shut you off because you were a pinko, commie linux user.
Now, obviously a dial-up ISP is not in the same class. You can go 'across the street' and sign up with another provider and be spreading your liberal views on the net in under an hour. But the original poster's point was about DSL and Cable where there are fewer choices and being cut off would be similar to having your phone, water, gas, electric disconnected.
I think it is an interesting question. Does internet access rise to the level of household necessity like water, power, phone, heat that requires some regulatory protection? I don't happen to think so.
The cable company can deprive me of cable TV and cable internet access. They can shut off my cable and I'd have to put my antenna back on the roof or get a DBS dish. I'd lose my cable-modem and since I'm 20,000 feet from the CO so I can't get DSL, I'd have to go back to dialup. It would suck, but it isn't like I wouldn't be able to heat my house, cook food, take a bath, order chinese, etc.
>for a short time removing access to the victim's site to get the DOS attacks to die
Not sure that hosted web was the target, the information is incomplete, although it does say:
they [attacks] were all aimed at knocking one of their users off the net.
which doesn't sound like a DoS attack against a user's site, more like a general attack on the network to block the user from either IRC or Usenet. I don't know much about this side of it. Assuming you wanted to just keep a single user unable to access the net, aren't there attacks that would leave the ISP mostly undistubed while making life miserable for the guy you are after?
Almost. More like, you get a cross burned on your front lawn, the fire dept has to come out and put out the fire, the PD has to file a report and all this is just too much strain on the city services so they put all your belongings in a u-haul and escort you to the city limits.
to silence speech you disagree with. Once an ISP sets the precedent that they will suspend a user who they determine to be the target of an attack that disrupts the ISP's business, they will repeat this action. Once you learn that the usenet poster you hate is a customer of this ISP, you attack the ISP and leave hints that it is this guy you are after. Minutes later the ISP shuts the guy off to stop you from attacking their network. Sound business practice!:-(
Um, depends on if there is a judge who is looking to slap a contempt charge on them. I assume perjury isn't the kind of thing where you can sue for damages. Isn't "Lawsuit" kind of a civil-court kind of thing? Methinks perjury might be more of a criminal-type thingy, but then IJTIAKATL (I just think I am knowledgeable about the law)
maybe in an alternate universe where an unemployed student could walk into a law office announcing that they wanted to sue a rock band for unspecified damages for getting them booted off a free service without being escorted out the door.
naw, you only want to have your music 'more widespread' when you aren't already 'arrived'. If you assume your 'art' is already as widely known as it needs to be to push record sales and concerts, why worry about getting it distributed among broke college students?
Metallica must no longer consider themselves in that following-building phase. I don't know too much about the offspring, but I bought their first cd but not their second, had no idea if they have new material beyond that until now -- for sure I'll check out their new stuff it is available for download, and if I like, will buy.
Metallica gets no more of my $$, ever. No CD's or concerts or t-shirts or anything that might remotely put dollars in their pockets.
You know, I thought the same thing but wasn't going to ask because I assumed there was some tie-in that I had missed. Maybe emmett just got confused and thought he was posting a 'quickies' series of unrelated posts. ??
Yup, 350Mb/hr is not that big a deal. I've downloaded 650Mb ISO images with my Cable Modem and then burned it the next day. Don't think I would be worried about downloading a couple hours' worth of video data if it was something I wanted to watch.
Just noticed in the article I linked above this quite from Darcy Rezac, managing director of the Vancouver Board of Trade about the idea of Microsoft moving to Canada:
``Microsoft may have its battles with the U.S. government, but it's an excellent corporate citizen of Seattle. The suggestion that they'd move their headquarters to Vancouver would be wonderful if it were possible, but I just wouldn't put credence in it.''
So, they would welcome Microsoft with open arms, eh? Get the feeling that they would also welcome a big Colombian Drug Cartel if they brought enough cash into the local economy?
"The Cali Cartel has it's troubles with US Customs, but it's an excellent corporate citizen of Bogata. The suggestion that they'd move their headquarters to Vancouver would be wonderful if it were possible, but I just wouldn't hold my breath."
Interesting, but this is out of 500+ million or so shares that he had that that point, and this is about 20% of total MSFT shares. Selling a million here and a million there is no big deal (less than one percent). My number of 900k was not a very good example of my point. Probably no one would notice that much.
Average daily volume of MSFT being around 40 million, Bill would have a real problem dumping any substantial percentage of his holdings on the market.
Selling 500 million shares without the share price collapsing would likely take _decades_.
I'm always intrigued by this concept. Bill Gates is the 'wealthiest' man in the US because he owns a truck-load of Microsoft stock (based on the current market valuation). But if he starts to sell it all off, it would probably make the stock price drop sharply, no? ("Oh sh*t! Gates is dumping ten-trillion shares of MSFT! Quick! SELL, SELL, SELL!")
So, to keep from slitting his own throat, he has to avoid a panic and is limited to selling only a small percent at a time. And Bill Gates doesn't just call his broker and just place an order to sell 900,000 shares, right? I imagine he might have to line up some institutional investor(s) to cross a large block like that.
I think my point is that Bill pretty much has the most expensive, jewel-encrusted handcuffs on the planet.
>and those vendors tend to have the same policy in talking to their vendors.
Exactly right. We do sub-contract work for a major US telecom carrier and their contract with us requires the use of Word, Excel, PPT, etc as standard file formats. When asked why this is, their response is because of US Govt work requires it, so their corp standard is Microsoft, regardless of govt work or not, just to keep it the same. Loony.
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Interesting. Is there really any benefit from transmitting this rather that shipping cell? Security? Or is it just a PR gimmic?
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I have been anticipating this movie since my son and I saw the first trailers for it last year (think when we saw Iron Giant). Looks really cool, and I'm taking my son to see this the first weekend it comes out. (yah, I get burned once in a while seeing something before friends give me their recommendation, but usually it works out)
On a side note, ever notice how the movie studios release different trailers and teasers that paint different pictures of the movie? The first 15-second teaser showed mostly space shots and had classical music. Then the next one I saw on TV showed the animated characters with a song by Creed. The latest one I saw in the theater seems to focus more on the evil aliens and has what sounds like the soundtrack from that James Spader, Kurt Russel, Egyptian-like Movie (uh... oh yeah -- Stargate).
This seems to happen all the time. You see a trailer for a movie with a certain mood created by the clips and the music. Then you get to the theater and the soundtrack is all different from what you were expecting. I've had conversations with my wife about this -- do they plan this to set expectations based on how individuals associate with music they recognize? I can't remember any movies I've seen (maybe except some Disney flicks with Elton John tunes) where the trailers had any of the actual score.
Right, but the point of the article (you did read it, right? ;-) ) is to ask the KDE project to ammend the license to make it palatable to Debian, not for Debian to take US$3000 to look the other way (at least that's what it looks like to me when I read it.)
Thus, there is only one realistic solution to the problem: All GPLed code in KDE2 has to include a licence that amends the GPL with the following exception clause: "This program is distributed under the GNU GPL v2, with the additional permission that it may be linked against all versions of Troll Tech's Qt library that are distributed under the QPL, and is distributed without the GPL applying to Qt". /I.
Yeah, ok but...
This isn't about what is legal and what is not, in my mind. How much money do you think Offspring had hoped to make off Napster t-shirts? I really don't think this was about just making a few bucks on the side, more about making a statement. I think it's brilliant. It exposes the true nature of the beast, not the PR image that they would like you to see of the saviours of free music battling the evil monsters of big record labels.
When I saw the blurb the other day about Offspring selling Napster merchandise, I kind of went, 'huh? What is that about?' Now it is clear as crystal. They can stop selling shirts and caps today, hell -- they may never have even sold _any_, and the point is made. Napster is a commercial interest, just like any other. They are out to make a buck (nothing wrong with that, I've made a buck or two myself) and will defend their interests by whatever means they must use, even sicking their lawyers on someone.
But enough of the 'freedom fighter' crap, already. We see you now for what you are. Kinda cool how they got maneuvered into this situation. Kinda like a good game of chess.
>And this is for precisely the same reason you may see disclaimers in restaurants that say "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone".
Sure, but you can walk right across the street and be served at McD's or go into the corner grocery store and buy food, you won't go without food.
What about phone service or electric? "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason" would be a problem in that case because you have no real alternative provider. You paid your bills on time, was always polite on the phone, turned off the lights when you left the room, but the phone and electric companies shut you off because you were a pinko, commie linux user.
Now, obviously a dial-up ISP is not in the same class. You can go 'across the street' and sign up with another provider and be spreading your liberal views on the net in under an hour. But the original poster's point was about DSL and Cable where there are fewer choices and being cut off would be similar to having your phone, water, gas, electric disconnected.
I think it is an interesting question. Does internet access rise to the level of household necessity like water, power, phone, heat that requires some regulatory protection? I don't happen to think so.
The cable company can deprive me of cable TV and cable internet access. They can shut off my cable and I'd have to put my antenna back on the roof or get a DBS dish. I'd lose my cable-modem and since I'm 20,000 feet from the CO so I can't get DSL, I'd have to go back to dialup. It would suck, but it isn't like I wouldn't be able to heat my house, cook food, take a bath, order chinese, etc.
>for a short time removing access to the victim's site to get the DOS attacks to die
Not sure that hosted web was the target, the information is incomplete, although it does say:
they [attacks] were all aimed at knocking one of their users off the net.
which doesn't sound like a DoS attack against a user's site, more like a general attack on the network to block the user from either IRC or Usenet. I don't know much about this side of it. Assuming you wanted to just keep a single user unable to access the net, aren't there attacks that would leave the ISP mostly undistubed while making life miserable for the guy you are after?
Almost. More like, you get a cross burned on your front lawn, the fire dept has to come out and put out the fire, the PD has to file a report and all this is just too much strain on the city services so they put all your belongings in a u-haul and escort you to the city limits.
"We reserve the right to terminate your service without notice at any time for any of the following reasons:
1) costing us money.
2) breaking the law (we get sued, see #1).
3) causing other users to call the help desk (see #1)
4) doing something to make us look bad which makes us write memos and waste time making press releases and such (see #1)
Guess maybe assume the attacks are being launched when the guy shows up on IRC or something, when he doesn't come back anymore, the floods stop?
to silence speech you disagree with. Once an ISP sets the precedent that they will suspend a user who they determine to be the target of an attack that disrupts the ISP's business, they will repeat this action. Once you learn that the usenet poster you hate is a customer of this ISP, you attack the ISP and leave hints that it is this guy you are after. Minutes later the ISP shuts the guy off to stop you from attacking their network. Sound business practice! :-(
because if your site is not domain is not of the pattern www.___.com then the mainstream AOL luser won't be able to find your site. Sad, but true.
errr... your point again?
Oh, that' too funny!
Ode to a bitchslap, he he...
Oh. (well, I did say I didn't know too much about them. To be honest - I'll have to dig out the CD to see which one it was.) :-)
Um, depends on if there is a judge who is looking to slap a contempt charge on them. I assume perjury isn't the kind of thing where you can sue for damages. Isn't "Lawsuit" kind of a civil-court kind of thing? Methinks perjury might be more of a criminal-type thingy, but then IJTIAKATL (I just think I am knowledgeable about the law)
maybe in an alternate universe where an unemployed student could walk into a law office announcing that they wanted to sue a rock band for unspecified damages for getting them booted off a free service without being escorted out the door.
You went back and actually read the post, didncha?
naw, you only want to have your music 'more widespread' when you aren't already 'arrived'. If you assume your 'art' is already as widely known as it needs to be to push record sales and concerts, why worry about getting it distributed among broke college students?
Metallica must no longer consider themselves in that following-building phase. I don't know too much about the offspring, but I bought their first cd but not their second, had no idea if they have new material beyond that until now -- for sure I'll check out their new stuff it is available for download, and if I like, will buy.
Metallica gets no more of my $$, ever. No CD's or concerts or t-shirts or anything that might remotely put dollars in their pockets.
You know, I thought the same thing but wasn't going to ask because I assumed there was some tie-in that I had missed. Maybe emmett just got confused and thought he was posting a 'quickies' series of unrelated posts. ??
My story sumbissions almost always get posted. You must just be a dumbass (evidenced by your whining that your story got rejected -- get a grip)
Yup, 350Mb/hr is not that big a deal. I've downloaded 650Mb ISO images with my Cable Modem and then burned it the next day. Don't think I would be worried about downloading a couple hours' worth of video data if it was something I wanted to watch.
``Microsoft may have its battles with the U.S. government, but it's an excellent corporate citizen of Seattle. The suggestion that they'd move their headquarters to Vancouver would be wonderful if it were possible, but I just wouldn't put credence in it.''
So, they would welcome Microsoft with open arms, eh? Get the feeling that they would also welcome a big Colombian Drug Cartel if they brought enough cash into the local economy?
"The Cali Cartel has it's troubles with US Customs, but it's an excellent corporate citizen of Bogata. The suggestion that they'd move their headquarters to Vancouver would be wonderful if it were possible, but I just wouldn't hold my breath."
Besides, now Microsoft is saying that it is happy in Redmond, no intention to move to Canada, so Bill doesn't have to liquidate his holdings anyway.
Interesting, but this is out of 500+ million or so shares that he had that that point, and this is about 20% of total MSFT shares. Selling a million here and a million there is no big deal (less than one percent). My number of 900k was not a very good example of my point. Probably no one would notice that much.
Average daily volume of MSFT being around 40 million, Bill would have a real problem dumping any substantial percentage of his holdings on the market.
Selling 500 million shares without the share price collapsing would likely take _decades_.
>(maybe Gates sells all his stock first)
I'm always intrigued by this concept. Bill Gates is the 'wealthiest' man in the US because he owns a truck-load of Microsoft stock (based on the current market valuation). But if he starts to sell it all off, it would probably make the stock price drop sharply, no? ("Oh sh*t! Gates is dumping ten-trillion shares of MSFT! Quick! SELL, SELL, SELL!")
So, to keep from slitting his own throat, he has to avoid a panic and is limited to selling only a small percent at a time. And Bill Gates doesn't just call his broker and just place an order to sell 900,000 shares, right? I imagine he might have to line up some institutional investor(s) to cross a large block like that.
I think my point is that Bill pretty much has the most expensive, jewel-encrusted handcuffs on the planet.
>and those vendors tend to have the same policy in talking to their vendors.
Exactly right. We do sub-contract work for a major US telecom carrier and their contract with us requires the use of Word, Excel, PPT, etc as standard file formats. When asked why this is, their response is because of US Govt work requires it, so their corp standard is Microsoft, regardless of govt work or not, just to keep it the same. Loony.