BLM is a legitimate campaign with some crazy members. The neo-nazis aren't all that neo, and don't deserve any sympathy. I don't know anything about Antifa.
That said, equal enforcement is important, and should not be avoided, just because some group you like will be hurt. Either enforce a rule or revoke it. If you have a rule that your service cannot be used to advocate violence and BLM advocates violence, they should be subject to the same criteria as the neo-nazis. If you don't have such a rule, then you shouldn't enforce it against the neo-nazis.
This gets more difficult when you start considering things like "pattern of behavior", and how that affects degree of enforcement, but still, equal enforcement should be applied.
No. It may just mean you're tired of listening to them. I won't listen to Flat-Earthers or Jehova's Witnesses. This doesn't mean I'm afraid, it means I don't want to waste my time on idiots.
I will agree that "allegedly" is weaker than required, but I wouldn't go stronger then "apparently". I don't unreservedly trust videos, especially those shot from only one angle and selected by those with an axe to grind. I've been present at a few news shots, and seen how they can bias the reporting with perfectly honest photographs.
Not specifically, but there are general terms that may apply. I'm no lawyer, and these folks deserve their unpopularity, but I think a good lawyer could find lots of precedents. One I think might apply is Rosa Parks. This isn't a bus company, but the government supports and regulates the use of the wires and radio waves, so you could probably argue that it's a public accommodation.
A definite point, but I'm not sure it was a judicial precedent. Did it get to the appellate level? You could also bring up Rosa Parks, which got all the way to the supreme court. So is hosting a web site "public accommodations"?
It could be a very interesting case, should someone choose to pursue it.
It's not really that clear and straightforwards, but it's always been true that "the power of the press belongs to the man who owns one". It's *one* of the ways the wealthy and powerful use to remain the wealthy and powerful.
FWIW, I don't use WordPress, so I don't know either their terms of service or whether they are paid for their service. If they are, and their Terms of Service don't justify their action, then they are violating a contract. Good luck enforcing it though.
This is, however, a clear warning of how unpopular views are readily suppressed. It's not clear to me what the best answer is. I certainly don't want to be coerced into listening to the views of every nut group...these days I even use an ad blocker. And it's also true that the "echo chamber" effect is injurious to society. These appear to be in conflict, but there's also the problem of "information overload", which weighs in on some of the otherwise potential solutions.
I agree that it's PR, but my take on it is that he was really saying "Since you aren't going to listen to anything I say anyway, I might as well get what advantage I can out of cutting my losses.".
Sorry, but the pro- vs anti- violence spectrum appears to be orthogonal to the left-right spectrum. But people are always more ready to condemn violence committed by those opposed to them in some way...practically any way that they are publicly aligned with. Is blowing up a Mosque terrorism? What about blowing up a birth control center? I'm sure you feel a difference between those two, even if you condemn both.
I didn't watch the video, however: Actually, many people have stolen from the dying. Sometimes they were close relatives. Your presumption that just because someone stole a cell phone from a dying woman that they were neo-nazi is fallacious. Given the circumstances I might put the odds at greater than 50%, but that was just because there were a bunch of neo-nazis in the area.
I think you misunderstand his point. He wasn't condemning Nazis because that's not important to him (despite the second paragraph). He was leaving the council because it wasn't useful to his company, his opinions were ignored, and it was irritating some of his customers.
Most top business leaders don't have strong opinions about Nazis as such, many of them support fascists. US fascism in business is much more similar to that of Mussolini than to that of Hitler (with isolated exceptions) except that there is no pro-Italian bias...though there often does appear to be a strong pro-"people like me" bias.
We need for Trump to be impeached...after Prence. And that won't happen until about half of the Republican legislators think it's their best choice. Not soon.
Whether it's a benefit or not depends on a lot of things about your life situation. A mortgage can be worse than rent. You can get out of rent in a month or two. But it can also be a lot better. I don't regret the time I spent as a renter before ending up with a house. Now my situation has changed again, and I'm going to go back to being a renter. I'm not really pleased, but I'm not upset about THAT aspect. (I really don't like home maintenance or gardening, or any of the other things that make a house vastly superior.)
OTOH, rents in this area have skyrocketed during the period when I was living in a house. Renting now would be a much worse deal...but then the prices of houses have also climbed a lot. So I'm going to need to leave the area.
If they don't validate the charges that they negotiated you into, then they deserve the blame and criminal penalties. At least they're getting a bit of the blame, but not as much as they deserve. And that's assuming your whitewash story is true. (It *could* be, but that doesn't exculpate Wells Fargo. And I'd give the odds at less than 25%.)
Were you to say the basic principles that are behind banking are important to the working of economics, I'd agree. This doesn't mean organizations that seem to be run by gangsters are a good idea. This doesn't mean that the currently existing banks should be either liked or trusted. This doesn't mean that the current regulations are either just or reasonable. Etc.
I really like the idea of banks. It's just the implementation that seems a bit lacking.
Why do you say "no conspiracy"? I see no grounds for assuming that just because the wealthy and powerful aren't punished they aren't engaging in conspiracy. And there are certainly meetings which are very carefully not recorded. If there were a conspiracy, what evidence would you expect to see that isn't present?
It would be quite reasonable to say we can't prove there's an illegal conspiracy. Even that would probably depend upon who "we" was, however. It seems quite clear that Wells Fargo management was engaged in an illegal conspiracy...it's just that it was against their customers rather than against the government. Proving it, however, could be a different matter.
It's potentially significant to me. It's new information because as I currently don't use an IOS device, I didn't either need to know this or follow deprecation warnings. It's significant in case I was contemplating getting such a device in the near future. (In the further future this will be rolled into "current features" that I'd evaluate when selecting the device.)
So this is valuable news, at least potentially. (As it happens, I hadn't been seriously thinking of getting a new phone...and my current desires tend more towards the Jitterbug, i.e. purely a phone. But I have been contemplating a tablet.)
You have a tiny point, but isn't it essentially the same technology? And if it is, wouldn't a small current surge potentially wipe a huge amount of storage? And because it *was* so huge, you might well not notice until long after any possibility of recovery.
Yeah, this is "enterprise grade". It's also being done with highly miniaturized capacitors, etc. Which may well be much more subject to leakage, shorts (with overvoltage), etc.
OTOH, perhaps I'm wrong. Perhaps this is just repackaging of stuff that's been on the market and being used for awhile. But it took disks multiple decades to get most of the bugs out, and some of the bugs are still around.
Just the other day I went to buy some storage and ended up with a thumb drive instead of spinning iron because the salesman said it was more reliable. HAH!
I had a power fluctuation, and suddenly I couldn't read a lot of the stuff I'd already written, and couldn't write anything new. Perhaps I'll try to reformat it, but I don't know. This has reaffirmed my feeling that usb is not a reliable storage. I'd hoped that this was just because the last time I used it -- around 5 years ago -- it was still being developed.
Well, I wasn't out a lot, and the prices have dropped, and I noticed the problem immediately. But that recent experience makes this seem like a really bad idea.
Sorry, but while I generally like KDE, the current version runs my disk drive constantly...so I switched to xfce. Gnome3 I consider a useless piece of garbage, but Gnome2 was better than KDE4.
Still, I guess if you're running on a tablet than there might be *some* value to Gnome3...but I'm still uncertain about that, as I don't have a tablet.
The last time I tried Mate I was unsatisfied with it, but that was over a year ago, so it might be a good choice. Cinnamon seems to be "better than Gnome3", but that's not saying much. I can't remember why I don't have LXDE installed. I think that why I tried it a year ago it was missing some features I needed...at least by default, and with the other choices I didn't see the need to coerce it.
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BLM is a legitimate campaign with some crazy members. The neo-nazis aren't all that neo, and don't deserve any sympathy. I don't know anything about Antifa.
That said, equal enforcement is important, and should not be avoided, just because some group you like will be hurt. Either enforce a rule or revoke it. If you have a rule that your service cannot be used to advocate violence and BLM advocates violence, they should be subject to the same criteria as the neo-nazis. If you don't have such a rule, then you shouldn't enforce it against the neo-nazis.
This gets more difficult when you start considering things like "pattern of behavior", and how that affects degree of enforcement, but still, equal enforcement should be applied.
No. It may just mean you're tired of listening to them. I won't listen to Flat-Earthers or Jehova's Witnesses. This doesn't mean I'm afraid, it means I don't want to waste my time on idiots.
I will agree that "allegedly" is weaker than required, but I wouldn't go stronger then "apparently". I don't unreservedly trust videos, especially those shot from only one angle and selected by those with an axe to grind. I've been present at a few news shots, and seen how they can bias the reporting with perfectly honest photographs.
Not specifically, but there are general terms that may apply. I'm no lawyer, and these folks deserve their unpopularity, but I think a good lawyer could find lots of precedents. One I think might apply is Rosa Parks. This isn't a bus company, but the government supports and regulates the use of the wires and radio waves, so you could probably argue that it's a public accommodation.
A definite point, but I'm not sure it was a judicial precedent. Did it get to the appellate level? You could also bring up Rosa Parks, which got all the way to the supreme court. So is hosting a web site "public accommodations"?
It could be a very interesting case, should someone choose to pursue it.
It's not really that clear and straightforwards, but it's always been true that "the power of the press belongs to the man who owns one". It's *one* of the ways the wealthy and powerful use to remain the wealthy and powerful.
FWIW, I don't use WordPress, so I don't know either their terms of service or whether they are paid for their service. If they are, and their Terms of Service don't justify their action, then they are violating a contract. Good luck enforcing it though.
This is, however, a clear warning of how unpopular views are readily suppressed. It's not clear to me what the best answer is. I certainly don't want to be coerced into listening to the views of every nut group...these days I even use an ad blocker. And it's also true that the "echo chamber" effect is injurious to society. These appear to be in conflict, but there's also the problem of "information overload", which weighs in on some of the otherwise potential solutions.
I agree that it's PR, but my take on it is that he was really saying "Since you aren't going to listen to anything I say anyway, I might as well get what advantage I can out of cutting my losses.".
Personally, I'm all in favor of statues to Robert E. Lee, but he should be dressed as an inventor or engineer rather than as a general.
Sorry, he *did* say more than that, but that is a reasonable paraphrase of one of his sentences on the topic.
Sorry, but the pro- vs anti- violence spectrum appears to be orthogonal to the left-right spectrum. But people are always more ready to condemn violence committed by those opposed to them in some way...practically any way that they are publicly aligned with. Is blowing up a Mosque terrorism? What about blowing up a birth control center? I'm sure you feel a difference between those two, even if you condemn both.
I didn't watch the video, however:
Actually, many people have stolen from the dying. Sometimes they were close relatives. Your presumption that just because someone stole a cell phone from a dying woman that they were neo-nazi is fallacious. Given the circumstances I might put the odds at greater than 50%, but that was just because there were a bunch of neo-nazis in the area.
Well, that's a optimistic take on a miserable situation. I hope you're right.
If someone isn't listening, then after awhile it becomes obvious that talking to them is a waste of time.
I think you misunderstand his point. He wasn't condemning Nazis because that's not important to him (despite the second paragraph). He was leaving the council because it wasn't useful to his company, his opinions were ignored, and it was irritating some of his customers.
Most top business leaders don't have strong opinions about Nazis as such, many of them support fascists. US fascism in business is much more similar to that of Mussolini than to that of Hitler (with isolated exceptions) except that there is no pro-Italian bias...though there often does appear to be a strong pro-"people like me" bias.
We need for Trump to be impeached...after Prence. And that won't happen until about half of the Republican legislators think it's their best choice. Not soon.
Whether it's a benefit or not depends on a lot of things about your life situation. A mortgage can be worse than rent. You can get out of rent in a month or two. But it can also be a lot better. I don't regret the time I spent as a renter before ending up with a house. Now my situation has changed again, and I'm going to go back to being a renter. I'm not really pleased, but I'm not upset about THAT aspect. (I really don't like home maintenance or gardening, or any of the other things that make a house vastly superior.)
OTOH, rents in this area have skyrocketed during the period when I was living in a house. Renting now would be a much worse deal...but then the prices of houses have also climbed a lot. So I'm going to need to leave the area.
If they don't validate the charges that they negotiated you into, then they deserve the blame and criminal penalties. At least they're getting a bit of the blame, but not as much as they deserve. And that's assuming your whitewash story is true. (It *could* be, but that doesn't exculpate Wells Fargo. And I'd give the odds at less than 25%.)
Which banks? What about banks?
Were you to say the basic principles that are behind banking are important to the working of economics, I'd agree. This doesn't mean organizations that seem to be run by gangsters are a good idea. This doesn't mean that the currently existing banks should be either liked or trusted. This doesn't mean that the current regulations are either just or reasonable. Etc.
I really like the idea of banks. It's just the implementation that seems a bit lacking.
Why do you say "no conspiracy"? I see no grounds for assuming that just because the wealthy and powerful aren't punished they aren't engaging in conspiracy. And there are certainly meetings which are very carefully not recorded. If there were a conspiracy, what evidence would you expect to see that isn't present?
It would be quite reasonable to say we can't prove there's an illegal conspiracy. Even that would probably depend upon who "we" was, however. It seems quite clear that Wells Fargo management was engaged in an illegal conspiracy...it's just that it was against their customers rather than against the government. Proving it, however, could be a different matter.
OK, thanks. That finally sounds like a valid answer.
It's potentially significant to me. It's new information because as I currently don't use an IOS device, I didn't either need to know this or follow deprecation warnings. It's significant in case I was contemplating getting such a device in the near future. (In the further future this will be rolled into "current features" that I'd evaluate when selecting the device.)
So this is valuable news, at least potentially. (As it happens, I hadn't been seriously thinking of getting a new phone...and my current desires tend more towards the Jitterbug, i.e. purely a phone. But I have been contemplating a tablet.)
You have a tiny point, but isn't it essentially the same technology? And if it is, wouldn't a small current surge potentially wipe a huge amount of storage? And because it *was* so huge, you might well not notice until long after any possibility of recovery.
Yeah, this is "enterprise grade". It's also being done with highly miniaturized capacitors, etc. Which may well be much more subject to leakage, shorts (with overvoltage), etc.
OTOH, perhaps I'm wrong. Perhaps this is just repackaging of stuff that's been on the market and being used for awhile. But it took disks multiple decades to get most of the bugs out, and some of the bugs are still around.
Just the other day I went to buy some storage and ended up with a thumb drive instead of spinning iron because the salesman said it was more reliable. HAH!
I had a power fluctuation, and suddenly I couldn't read a lot of the stuff I'd already written, and couldn't write anything new. Perhaps I'll try to reformat it, but I don't know. This has reaffirmed my feeling that usb is not a reliable storage. I'd hoped that this was just because the last time I used it -- around 5 years ago -- it was still being developed.
Well, I wasn't out a lot, and the prices have dropped, and I noticed the problem immediately. But that recent experience makes this seem like a really bad idea.
Sorry, but while I generally like KDE, the current version runs my disk drive constantly...so I switched to xfce. Gnome3 I consider a useless piece of garbage, but Gnome2 was better than KDE4.
Still, I guess if you're running on a tablet than there might be *some* value to Gnome3...but I'm still uncertain about that, as I don't have a tablet.
The last time I tried Mate I was unsatisfied with it, but that was over a year ago, so it might be a good choice. Cinnamon seems to be "better than Gnome3", but that's not saying much. I can't remember why I don't have LXDE installed. I think that why I tried it a year ago it was missing some features I needed...at least by default, and with the other choices I didn't see the need to coerce it.