Sure, you could give me the address of an ftp site to grab a browser from, but I've been working with computers since I was 8 years old.
You couldn't give my parents the address of an ftp site and expect them to be able to grab a browser, or most of my non-techy friends.
It's the complete tying of IE into Windows via the Kernel/system DLLs that most people would object to as being inherently unfair.
Do you have any evidence to back up this claim of IE being tied into the kernel? MSHTML.dll is a "system" dll in that it comes with the system, it's true, but so what? That doesn't give it any advantage other than that people can write apps to use it knowing that it definitely will be present. That way, they don't have to ship their own HTML renderer.
How many comments did people find from the Windows source code leak relating to Office/IE/etc, again?
I don't know - you tell me, you're using it as part of your argument. Besides, IE ships with the OS, so the IE team is actually part of the Windows team. Where I work, if I find a bug in another part of the project code, it gets fixed (either for me or by me). This is no different. As for Office, well, what do you expect? They're produced by the same company, of course they'd fix bugs.
somewhat like that amazon fiasco that prevents the same user from viewing all the pages of a book.
If Amazon didn't at least attempt to prevent you from accessing every page of each book, they'd be unable to offer the service at all as there's no way the publishers would agree to it. They'd essentially be providing a mechanism to get the text of the book for free.
If enough people piss about with it, Amazon *will* be forced to either withdraw the service, or just put up (say) five pages of each book and leave it at that, which would greatly reduce its usefulness.
I like Windows and I tolerate MS Office but I do not think they justify the insanely high prices MS charges for them.
You don't even know what expensive means when it comes to software. I routinely (as in, every day) use software costing in excess of £1.5k, and have personally installed, configured and developed against software costing in excess of £100k. That's not bespoke software either, that's off the shelf stuff. Hell, I have about £10k worth of software sat in my desk drawer at work.
They don't have to. If you think that you have prior art that invalidates the patent, you have to prove it. They'll most likely attempt to prove that your prior art isn't, but you don't have to try to disprove the existence of any prior art at all, that would be unworkable.
And by the same token, all those machines with more than a usual amount of software installed, all of which is bought and paid for, are under-counted.
Whether the study over- or under-estimates the amount of piracy depends entirely on their estimate of the average amount of paid-for software installed on a PC.
I wonder where the 80+ PCs at work, all with properly licenced copies of Windows, Office, and a variety of development, management, design and related tools fit in...
Ffs mods, get a clue! Troll or Flamebait maybe (although it's true), but redundant?
For what it's worth, that's pretty-much exactly what I was going to say. What a lot of people here don't realise is that those lost sales may not represent enough cash to be worth the extra effort, even if they were all realised.
That's fine, but every time there's a story about security vulnerabilities, someone drags up Windows vs Linux, pointing out vulns found in (eg) openssl, to which the reply is always along the lines that they're produced by third parties.
Well, if you* want to count stock apps with FC4 vs stock apps with Windows, then you have to count flaws too, fair's fair. (Of course Windows will still come out worst off, but not by as much)
(* that's "you" in the generic sense of course, I have no idea if you've ever made the same argument)
Try installing again and let me know how many prompts it takes until you get a useful system where you can get work done.
Ok, starting from a fresh install of XP, I need:
1) A JVM 2) Eclipse
So that's maybe 4 prompts each. After that, I can get useful work done. Similarly with FC4, I'll need a JVM and Eclipse, with roughly the same number of prompts.
Hell, at a pinch, I can forgo Eclipse (or JBuilder Foundation, or whatever) and use javac on the command line, old-school stylee. I'll take a lot longer and tear out what little hair I have left, though...
Well, under a modern Windows OS all the user-specific settings *should* be in C:\Documents and Settings\, which is just as easy to back up and restore. You can also change that to put it on a different partition (or even a network share, etc) if your Windows-fu is up to it.
That said though, none of the system-wide settings are in there (but then none of the system-wide stuff is in/home on Linux, of course) and a lot of apps (especially older ones) use the registry for all sorts of things that they shouldn't.
People have much less trouble using game consoles, because they are built with that usability in mind. Put in disk. Turn on power. Select Play from menu, and play. That's it. Nothing to learn there.
Well, I've not used a console in a few years, but the last time I did, there was nothing else to *do* there, either. "Put in disk, play game" was the limit of their functoinality. Contrast that with a PC, and the myriad functions that they are expected to perform. Is it any wonder they're harder to use?
My five-year-old daughter loves both of those films, and I could actually stand to watch Treasure Planet a couple of times a week myself. (In case the non-parents are wondering, that's what happens when you get kids)
Surely, if he knew the address of the company's website,he'd just go straight there? From the sounds of it, that's the site he's actually searching for...
No, I can't let you get away with it - got any numbers to back up that assertion?
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My first computer (a Sinclair ZX Spectrum) had 8KB of RAM. My first PC had 32MB.
My current graphics card has 256MB of RAM.
Even if none of my apps can take advantage of 4 cores, my PC can - I could be running a lengthy compile and transcoding some video while playing a game and still be contributing to SETI@home or something.
More to the point, you could have a long-running process (like video transcoding/encoding) running on one or two cores, with the remaining core(s) doing something else for you while you wait.
Well, here in the UK installing stuff on my PC without my consent would be illegal under the Computer Misuse Act. I'd be amazed if there wasn't a similar law in your jurisdiction.
Bottom line - I doubt very much indeed that this is legal in most countries.
That's great, but do you have any idea how long it would take to scan through and find the 40000th digit by hand? Assuming you can count a digit once per second, it'll take a little over 11 hours non-stop.
Sure, you could write code to do it for you, but that's a techy thinking; it wouldn't have occurred to most people, especially back in '93 when PC usage was much less pronounced.
If they allowed 100% of the Tor connections, the comments would be flooded with more ascii goatse pics, GNAA Postings, tubgirl links, and all kinds of wonderful trollish crap.
That's what the moderation system is designed in part to deal with. (Of course, with the addition of friends and freaks, and score modifiers for them, it's turned into more of a way of ensuring that your world view is never disturbed by reading things you don't agree with, but I digress...)
There's also nothing stopping the editors from deleting such crap. The ASCII pics and GNAA posts are easily seen at a glance, and it'd be trivial to produce a private interface that had a "delete this shite" button against each comment (or checkbox and single "Delete the shite" button, or whatever)
I'm all for internet anonymity and free speech, but there are very few reasons why someone would need to visit the slashdot comments section with a proxy.
Corporate whistle blowers, people in countries with oppresive regimes commenting on stories about some aspect of that regime (eg net censorship in China), people discussing first-hand experience of illegal activities, etc. No, it doesn't happen very often, but when it does it could potentially lead to very interesting comments.
All of that is beside the point, however. It most certainly does seem rather odd that the Slashdot editors praise Tor while simultaneously seeking to prevent access to the site with it. It's effectively saying "Yes, annonymous internet access is necessary and good, but not to *my* site!"
So, what, other sites should allow it, but not/.? "Do as I say, not as I do"? If you want to convince people that something is good, allowing it yourself is generally seen as a necessary first step.
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For the nth time, Java and Javascript have nothing at all to do with each other. The syntax is similar (both being based loosely on C), but that's it.
It might as well go in the Hardware topic too, while you're at it - after all, it must be running on some kind of hardware.
Sure, you could give me the address of an ftp site to grab a browser from, but I've been working with computers since I was 8 years old.
You couldn't give my parents the address of an ftp site and expect them to be able to grab a browser, or most of my non-techy friends.
It's the complete tying of IE into Windows via the Kernel/system DLLs that most people would object to as being inherently unfair.
Do you have any evidence to back up this claim of IE being tied into the kernel? MSHTML.dll is a "system" dll in that it comes with the system, it's true, but so what? That doesn't give it any advantage other than that people can write apps to use it knowing that it definitely will be present. That way, they don't have to ship their own HTML renderer.
How many comments did people find from the Windows source code leak relating to Office/IE/etc, again?
I don't know - you tell me, you're using it as part of your argument. Besides, IE ships with the OS, so the IE team is actually part of the Windows team. Where I work, if I find a bug in another part of the project code, it gets fixed (either for me or by me). This is no different. As for Office, well, what do you expect? They're produced by the same company, of course they'd fix bugs.
somewhat like that amazon fiasco that prevents the same user from viewing all the pages of a book.
If Amazon didn't at least attempt to prevent you from accessing every page of each book, they'd be unable to offer the service at all as there's no way the publishers would agree to it. They'd essentially be providing a mechanism to get the text of the book for free.
If enough people piss about with it, Amazon *will* be forced to either withdraw the service, or just put up (say) five pages of each book and leave it at that, which would greatly reduce its usefulness.
I like Windows and I tolerate MS Office but I do not think they justify the insanely high prices MS charges for them.
You don't even know what expensive means when it comes to software. I routinely (as in, every day) use software costing in excess of £1.5k, and have personally installed, configured and developed against software costing in excess of £100k. That's not bespoke software either, that's off the shelf stuff. Hell, I have about £10k worth of software sat in my desk drawer at work.
Once a user opens the fake virus attachment, they must watch a 2-hour video on their own time
Which, depending on the exact wording of their contract, may well be unenforcable.
b) how can they prove the absence of prior art
They don't have to. If you think that you have prior art that invalidates the patent, you have to prove it. They'll most likely attempt to prove that your prior art isn't, but you don't have to try to disprove the existence of any prior art at all, that would be unworkable.
And by the same token, all those machines with more than a usual amount of software installed, all of which is bought and paid for, are under-counted.
Whether the study over- or under-estimates the amount of piracy depends entirely on their estimate of the average amount of paid-for software installed on a PC.
I wonder where the 80+ PCs at work, all with properly licenced copies of Windows, Office, and a variety of development, management, design and related tools fit in...
How can the only reply to a comment be redundant?
Ffs mods, get a clue! Troll or Flamebait maybe (although it's true), but redundant?
For what it's worth, that's pretty-much exactly what I was going to say. What a lot of people here don't realise is that those lost sales may not represent enough cash to be worth the extra effort, even if they were all realised.
So they're not all bad then...
That's fine, but every time there's a story about security vulnerabilities, someone drags up Windows vs Linux, pointing out vulns found in (eg) openssl, to which the reply is always along the lines that they're produced by third parties.
Well, if you* want to count stock apps with FC4 vs stock apps with Windows, then you have to count flaws too, fair's fair. (Of course Windows will still come out worst off, but not by as much)
(* that's "you" in the generic sense of course, I have no idea if you've ever made the same argument)
Try installing again and let me know how many prompts it takes until you get a useful system where you can get work done.
Ok, starting from a fresh install of XP, I need:
1) A JVM
2) Eclipse
So that's maybe 4 prompts each. After that, I can get useful work done. Similarly with FC4, I'll need a JVM and Eclipse, with roughly the same number of prompts.
Hell, at a pinch, I can forgo Eclipse (or JBuilder Foundation, or whatever) and use javac on the command line, old-school stylee. I'll take a lot longer and tear out what little hair I have left, though...
Well, under a modern Windows OS all the user-specific settings *should* be in C:\Documents and Settings\, which is just as easy to back up and restore. You can also change that to put it on a different partition (or even a network share, etc) if your Windows-fu is up to it.
/home on Linux, of course) and a lot of apps (especially older ones) use the registry for all sorts of things that they shouldn't.
That said though, none of the system-wide settings are in there (but then none of the system-wide stuff is in
People have much less trouble using game consoles, because they are built with that usability in mind. Put in disk. Turn on power. Select Play from menu, and play. That's it. Nothing to learn there.
Well, I've not used a console in a few years, but the last time I did, there was nothing else to *do* there, either. "Put in disk, play game" was the limit of their functoinality. Contrast that with a PC, and the myriad functions that they are expected to perform. Is it any wonder they're harder to use?
My five-year-old daughter loves both of those films, and I could actually stand to watch Treasure Planet a couple of times a week myself. (In case the non-parents are wondering, that's what happens when you get kids)
Surely, if he knew the address of the company's website,he'd just go straight there? From the sounds of it, that's the site he's actually searching for...
msworks.exe running indicates that he has MS Works Suite installed, not MS Office. That's probably half his problem right there.
No, I can't let you get away with it - got any numbers to back up that assertion?
My first computer (a Sinclair ZX Spectrum) had 8KB of RAM. My first PC had 32MB.
My current graphics card has 256MB of RAM.
Even if none of my apps can take advantage of 4 cores, my PC can - I could be running a lengthy compile and transcoding some video while playing a game and still be contributing to SETI@home or something.
More to the point, you could have a long-running process (like video transcoding/encoding) running on one or two cores, with the remaining core(s) doing something else for you while you wait.
You'd kill over something like this? Get a sense of perspective.
Well, here in the UK installing stuff on my PC without my consent would be illegal under the Computer Misuse Act. I'd be amazed if there wasn't a similar law in your jurisdiction.
Bottom line - I doubt very much indeed that this is legal in most countries.
Reminds me of a quote I read once (it's almost certainly a fortune):
In C it's easy to shoot yourself in the foot. C++ makes it harder, but when you do, you take your whole foot off
Or somesuch.
That's great, but do you have any idea how long it would take to scan through and find the 40000th digit by hand? Assuming you can count a digit once per second, it'll take a little over 11 hours non-stop.
Sure, you could write code to do it for you, but that's a techy thinking; it wouldn't have occurred to most people, especially back in '93 when PC usage was much less pronounced.
If they allowed 100% of the Tor connections, the comments would be flooded with more ascii goatse pics, GNAA Postings, tubgirl links, and all kinds of wonderful trollish crap.
/.? "Do as I say, not as I do"? If you want to convince people that something is good, allowing it yourself is generally seen as a necessary first step.
That's what the moderation system is designed in part to deal with. (Of course, with the addition of friends and freaks, and score modifiers for them, it's turned into more of a way of ensuring that your world view is never disturbed by reading things you don't agree with, but I digress...)
There's also nothing stopping the editors from deleting such crap. The ASCII pics and GNAA posts are easily seen at a glance, and it'd be trivial to produce a private interface that had a "delete this shite" button against each comment (or checkbox and single "Delete the shite" button, or whatever)
I'm all for internet anonymity and free speech, but there are very few reasons why someone would need to visit the slashdot comments section with a proxy.
Corporate whistle blowers, people in countries with oppresive regimes commenting on stories about some aspect of that regime (eg net censorship in China), people discussing first-hand experience of illegal activities, etc. No, it doesn't happen very often, but when it does it could potentially lead to very interesting comments.
All of that is beside the point, however. It most certainly does seem rather odd that the Slashdot editors praise Tor while simultaneously seeking to prevent access to the site with it. It's effectively saying "Yes, annonymous internet access is necessary and good, but not to *my* site!"
So, what, other sites should allow it, but not
Eg, you need XP installed to be able to run the Win2k3 admin tools on a workstation. Excuse me? Why? :D
Well, presumably they rely on API features that aren't present in previous releases...
How is Apache innovative? You do know why it's called "Apache", don't you?