1.) 160K is a lot of money. I agree. But you are making that interpretation based within the context of your experiences. The problem here is that you don't understand what value this person / persons bring to the organization. You admitted that you don NOT understand what these people do, so how about taking some initiative and learning something? It is exactly that behavior type that warrants 160K for that employee. When he/she does not know something. They seek out that knowledge. I do commend you for putting it out there on/. But I think your time would have been better spent by taking this individual out to lunch and asking them what they do... It is amazing what can be accomplished when people stop being so guarded with what they know.
2.) 160K is a lot of money. BUT do you know what that dollar figure is comprised of? Let's start with adding up the some total of MCSE's u have on staff. The small army may very well not have the collective knowledge to truly administer the NT side, but are forced to chase down issues inherent in the M$ platform.
3.) Forget everything you learned over the years about compensation. The times have changed. Supply and Demand is a powerful force my friend. Perhaps in 10 years this will be a non issue, but for now, you may just have to swallow the fact that that some "Gen-Xer's" makes more money than you do. I know, that is hard to fathom. The concept of yearly performance reviews and 3% raises just doesn't cut it. The job of Sys Admin is a 24 hour, 7 day a week job. I guarantee that the snowboarding (read = irresponsible) Sys Admin's were dialing regularly to monitor there Box's. Just because they were on vacation does not mean that they are no longer responsible for what they physically left behind. Often time this concept is lost on the 9-5 types that leave their abacus at the office and go home to Marge. Simply put... How may new CPA's are certified each year? How many Sun Certified Solaris Admin's are certified each year.
This is NOT meant to be inflammatory, but to encourage you to take the initiative to gain a big picture understand of the forces in play here. If you are being put in the position of making technology decisions it is your responsibility to make it wisely.
well, OK. Taco Bell is a whole 'nother story... And yes I conceed that the creation and challenge i was alluding to is not exclusive to those employeed in those proffesions directly. My point is that more ofen than not, we all collectivly make a choice. You want a 9-5 job in this industry? There is a place for that. Go work for that big corporate monolith that will allow you to skirt out the door at 5 on the dot. You want and like to work your ball's off, than go work somewhere in that type od environment. Point here is that we all make choices. You and i *choose* that job. Remember the interview? Remember when your now boss said..."There may be some overtime required" or more likely when in that interview u realized that they had no concept of the task at hand and what u would be doing, well, everything... This is a great employement market. Just like the poster form the UK said, take control of your situation. Be indepent, dependent, whatever... just make the choice, stick with it (for a little while) and stop complaining.... We have all lived through those times when 5 roll's around and half 98% of the building ocupants leave and u get pissed off because u have too much to do and not enough time to do it. Live with it... The good news is. If u don't like it? I'm sure Taco Bell is hiring.
OK, so I work a lot? Most of you prob. do to.... As it turns out, this isn't a 9-5 gig we have here and that is something we all knew going into this. Are sopposed to feel some sort of empathy for each other because our blood-shot eyes are staring at the same screen for 18 hours in a day??? I feel sorry for the people who do in fact work that 9-5 job where the have no connection with what they are doing. They are simply earning $... OK, if you figure it out, you work 18 hours a day, probably 6 day's a week.... Yeah, I see your point. The pimply faced kid @ McDonalds makes more per hour than me! So what? I get to solve problems everyday. I get to be challenged, everyday... seems that is more important.... Sick of this one...
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1.) 160K is a lot of money. I agree. But you are making that interpretation based within the context of your experiences. The problem here is that you don't understand what value this person / persons bring to the organization. You admitted that you don NOT understand what these people do, so how about taking some initiative and learning something? It is exactly that behavior type that warrants 160K for that employee. When he/she does not know something. They seek out that knowledge. I do commend you for putting it out there on
2.) 160K is a lot of money. BUT do you know what that dollar figure is comprised of? Let's start with adding up the some total of MCSE's u have on staff. The small army may very well not have the collective knowledge to truly administer the NT side, but are forced to chase down issues inherent in the M$ platform.
3.) Forget everything you learned over the years about compensation. The times have changed. Supply and Demand is a powerful force my friend. Perhaps in 10 years this will be a non issue, but for now, you may just have to swallow the fact that that some "Gen-Xer's" makes more money than you do. I know, that is hard to fathom. The concept of yearly performance reviews and 3% raises just doesn't cut it. The job of Sys Admin is a 24 hour, 7 day a week job. I guarantee that the snowboarding (read = irresponsible) Sys Admin's were dialing regularly to monitor there Box's. Just because they were on vacation does not mean that they are no longer responsible for what they physically left behind. Often time this concept is lost on the 9-5 types that leave their abacus at the office and go home to Marge. Simply put... How may new CPA's are certified each year? How many Sun Certified Solaris Admin's are certified each year.
This is NOT meant to be inflammatory, but to encourage you to take the initiative to gain a big picture understand of the forces in play here. If you are being put in the position of making technology decisions it is your responsibility to make it wisely.
well, OK. Taco Bell is a whole 'nother story... And yes I conceed that the creation and challenge i was alluding to is not exclusive to those employeed in those proffesions directly. My point is that more ofen than not, we all collectivly make a choice. You want a 9-5 job in this industry? There is a place for that. Go work for that big corporate monolith that will allow you to skirt out the door at 5 on the dot. You want and like to work your ball's off, than go work somewhere in that type od environment. Point here is that we all make choices. You and i *choose* that job. Remember the interview? Remember when your now boss said..."There may be some overtime required" or more likely when in that interview u realized that they had no concept of the task at hand and what u would be doing, well, everything... This is a great employement market. Just like the poster form the UK said, take control of your situation. Be indepent, dependent, whatever... just make the choice, stick with it (for a little while) and stop complaining.... We have all lived through those times when 5 roll's around and half 98% of the building ocupants leave and u get pissed off because u have too much to do and not enough time to do it. Live with it... The good news is. If u don't like it? I'm sure Taco Bell is hiring.
OK, so I work a lot? Most of you prob. do to.... As it turns out, this isn't a 9-5 gig we have here and that is something we all knew going into this. Are sopposed to feel some sort of empathy for each other because our blood-shot eyes are staring at the same screen for 18 hours in a day??? I feel sorry for the people who do in fact work that 9-5 job where the have no connection with what they are doing. They are simply earning $... OK, if you figure it out, you work 18 hours a day, probably 6 day's a week.... Yeah, I see your point. The pimply faced kid @ McDonalds makes more per hour than me! So what? I get to solve problems everyday. I get to be challenged, everyday... seems that is more important.... Sick of this one...
geez, u got a -1 score.... Is this the power u speak of?