Exactly. I will be voting for Harry Browne. It would be nice to have a president that coucl see to it where we can truly be free. Not have our lives descided for us like a herd of sheep as the current republicans and democrats wish to do.
Vote Harry Browne!! to be free today.
I haven't used it since version 1.2 untill last week when I found EDESKTOP 2.4 at BestBuy for $29.99 bundled with some commercial apps. At the same time I was getting ready to build a new workstation for the office, so what the heck I bought it. I've used slack and redhat for years, but I was really impressed with calderas 2.4 release. The install was killer for the average joe whois is from the windows world. Actually in terms of ease of use I think it's installer is better than win9x. It also came with partition magic and boot magic which for the newbie would be a good thing. During the install you get to play pacman while it's copying files too.:)
I've been running it on this machine for about a week now, and it's doing well. I've had a few problems with some apps looking for something that is located in the wrong place. Caldera likes to stick alot of things in/opt for somereason. But it was all easy to work around. Matter of fact I'm typing a document in the supplied applixware that it came with, (it comes with star office too).
One last note is the xwindows configurator, lizardx.... It's IMHO by far the best one yet. No more tweaking my conf files. Just answer the questions like normal, and it works. I did ned to use xvidtune to get it exactly perfect, but no big deal. Redhat likes to make my screen at a low resoltion with a huge scrolling background, which I always hate having to waste my time fixing by hand.
Also for the newbies, it does have a web based configuration tool. I played with it, and it is alot better than linuxconf. I still perfer the oldschool methods though, probably because I've been doing it for years and want the power and flexibility, which of course is still do able.
The only thing I didn't like about it. I literally installed every package it had including everything I'll never use:)(the install has a selection for this) And it doesn't have pine!!! Granted I don't use pine for my mail anyway, but for editing I use either pico or joe depending on my mood. no pico or joe. Had to go grab joe and pine off of freshmeat.
I hope they keep up the great work on thier distro, it's probably the one that will actually take Linux to the consumer desktop market as an easy useable product for anyone to use. Oh yeah it had acrobat reader, flash4 and realplayer5 preconfigured out of the box and they were even runing out of netscape without doing anything.
I haven't used A caldera flavor of linux in a couple of years untill last week when I found a copy of eDesktop 2.4 for 30 bucks containing some commercial software goodies etc.. So I got it and installed it on one of my other machines. I must say, it is awesome. I think it is by far the easiest of install's and also it should be a good thing for the lusers to get away from windows and into linux. Also, what other flavor of linux lets you play pacman while waiting for it to copy all the files from the cdrom during during the install!:) And also it may have all the gui nifty stuff, but I can still just as well edit everything by hand like normal, still retaining it's power as a *nix platform.
Ditto. Rejecting stuff from the outside at your core router doesn't do much good. So what if it get's to the victim on the end. If you're blocking it, they'll still be the victim when your internet drain goes full saturated and your network falls off the face of the planet. Unless you have huge drains. I.E. several ds-3's or more, then any nice sized DoS from a large network or a large smurf will take you down.
egress filtering helps alot as well as getting your upstream to filter for you where they have alot more bandwidth. But that raises another question.....
Recently my network was attacked by a script kiddie (he was attacking my irc server). Egress filtering means nothing on a large network. I've been hit many times with over 100mBit of udp traffic from various edu's all having valid source addy's. The problem is that edu's is where alot of nasty DoS attacks originate. Most of the attacking boxes are either hacked unix boxes with poor security, or dorm machines which have been infected with some nice backdoor trojan like sub7 or netbus etc...
So it has a valid source addy. You call the university, they fix the problem until another one pops up. Woopdee doo. The damage has been already been done. Why don't these universities use any sort of traffic shaping on the various legs of thier networks to keep people from maxing thier drain outbound with some sort of DoS attack that is killing an innocent ISP somewhere else in the world ?
You can block all the trojan's default ports, but they can just be resent to them with non standards ports config'd in. And I know of several universites that really need to learn how to keep thier SunOS boxes from getting owned by script kiddies.
No what he's saying and he's right, is that a pc just isn't as capable in performance as a router. Basically if you can afford a large ATM connection than you can afford a REAL router. Part of the proccessing overhead accompanied with a large drain isn't just simply the amount of bandwidth being used at anyone time, but the number of packets per second as well. Not only is the pc's cpu a limiting factor but also it's bus. not even a 64bit pci slot with an ATM card couldn't keep up. Cisco makes 12000 series routers for a reason:) Leave the pc's for what they are inteded to be used for. They make fine routers at home for your cable or dsl connection, but if you want sheer flexibility and power in a corporate enviroment, they are useless especially with thier much higfher failure rate comapred to a cisco.
Who really cares if your post got hacked up and some links were added in. It's not like you wrote a novel that you are going to sell and someone is distibuting a pirated modified version of it.
Also if you have a real ISP and pay money, they probably have a news server. use it and read usenet with a real client and forget about it. It's good for you, and contains vitamin C.
Or everyone could let go of usenet like the majority of the world is. It's dying a painful death and it's time to go out with old and in with the new! Whatever the new may be. some nice pretty flash based web forums.:) But then you wouldn't have your access to binary pics of pr0n and hamsters with duct tape either.:)
The main reason I purchased a mouse for my c64 was for GEOS. With the GEOS programming bundle and a 640k ram expander on my c64, you could do some neat things.
Heh. As it says, 0wned and it's even trademarked. BTW I wonder what that number on that white board is... could it be an ip address to some noetwork somewhere heh.
Man you guys are gonna make me relive my childhood and start an ancient computer collection. If I only still had some of the machines I had. where to start... c-64, c-sx64, c-128, several amigas, a mac plus, timex sinclair z80, those crappy ti-994/a's heh. I even had an old portable kaypro machine that ran CP/M. I think my favorite overal machine I had was my sx-64 whith it's built in 9" color monitor and 1541 disk drive. I guess I'm gonna have to go shopping at the flea markets and thrift stores now. BTW is there anyone here that used CP/M for anything usefull? I was just too young at the time to rember any apps for CP/M. Long Live 8" floppies!
I'm supprised they had no mention of the CBM PET from the 70's or even any mention about about the c-64 then primarily the amiga which led to a great deal of the multimedia stuff we have today. The amiga was the first multimedia computer, way before the multimedia craze hit around 1995. IIRC Development of the amiga and it's OS started around 1980 and it became available in 1986. I miss all my old amigas.....:)
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Exactly. I will be voting for Harry Browne. It would be nice to have a president that coucl see to it where we can truly be free. Not have our lives descided for us like a herd of sheep as the current republicans and democrats wish to do. Vote Harry Browne!! to be free today.
Well in the true unix world :) I've rarely seen much stuff in /opt over the linux years, except in caldera stuff.
I haven't used it since version 1.2 untill last week when I found EDESKTOP 2.4 at BestBuy for $29.99 bundled with some commercial apps. At the same time I was getting ready to build a new workstation for the office, so what the heck I bought it. I've used slack and redhat for years, but I was really impressed with calderas 2.4 release. The install was killer for the average joe whois is from the windows world. Actually in terms of ease of use I think it's installer is better than win9x. It also came with partition magic and boot magic which for the newbie would be a good thing. During the install you get to play pacman while it's copying files too. :)
/opt for somereason. But it was all easy to work around. Matter of fact I'm typing a document in the supplied applixware that it came with, (it comes with star office too).
.... It's IMHO by far the best one yet. No more tweaking my conf files. Just answer the questions like normal, and it works. I did ned to use xvidtune to get it exactly perfect, but no big deal. Redhat likes to make my screen at a low resoltion with a huge scrolling background, which I always hate having to waste my time fixing by hand.
:)(the install has a selection for this) And it doesn't have pine!!! Granted I don't use pine for my mail anyway, but for editing I use either pico or joe depending on my mood. no pico or joe. Had to go grab joe and pine off of freshmeat.
I've been running it on this machine for about a week now, and it's doing well. I've had a few problems with some apps looking for something that is located in the wrong place. Caldera likes to stick alot of things in
One last note is the xwindows configurator, lizardx
Also for the newbies, it does have a web based configuration tool. I played with it, and it is alot better than linuxconf. I still perfer the oldschool methods though, probably because I've been doing it for years and want the power and flexibility, which of course is still do able.
The only thing I didn't like about it. I literally installed every package it had including everything I'll never use
I hope they keep up the great work on thier distro, it's probably the one that will actually take Linux to the consumer desktop market as an easy useable product for anyone to use. Oh yeah it had acrobat reader, flash4 and realplayer5 preconfigured out of the box and they were even runing out of netscape without doing anything.
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I haven't used A caldera flavor of linux in a couple of years untill last week when I found a copy of eDesktop 2.4 for 30 bucks containing some commercial software goodies etc.. So I got it and installed it on one of my other machines. I must say, it is awesome. I think it is by far the easiest of install's and also it should be a good thing for the lusers to get away from windows and into linux. Also, what other flavor of linux lets you play pacman while waiting for it to copy all the files from the cdrom during during the install! :) And also it may have all the gui nifty stuff, but I can still just as well edit everything by hand like normal, still retaining it's power as a *nix platform.
Ditto. Rejecting stuff from the outside at your core router doesn't do much good. So what if it get's to the victim on the end. If you're blocking it, they'll still be the victim when your internet drain goes full saturated and your network falls off the face of the planet. Unless you have huge drains. I.E. several ds-3's or more, then any nice sized DoS from a large network or a large smurf will take you down.
egress filtering helps alot as well as getting your upstream to filter for you where they have alot more bandwidth. But that raises another question.....
Recently my network was attacked by a script kiddie (he was attacking my irc server). Egress filtering means nothing on a large network. I've been hit many times with over 100mBit of udp traffic from various edu's all having valid source addy's. The problem is that edu's is where alot of nasty DoS attacks originate. Most of the attacking boxes are either hacked unix boxes with poor security, or dorm machines which have been infected with some nice backdoor trojan like sub7 or netbus etc...
So it has a valid source addy. You call the university, they fix the problem until another one pops up. Woopdee doo. The damage has been already been done. Why don't these universities use any sort of traffic shaping on the various legs of thier networks to keep people from maxing thier drain outbound with some sort of DoS attack that is killing an innocent ISP somewhere else in the world ?
You can block all the trojan's default ports, but they can just be resent to them with non standards ports config'd in. And I know of several universites that really need to learn how to keep thier SunOS boxes from getting owned by script kiddies.
No what he's saying and he's right, is that a pc just isn't as capable in performance as a router. Basically if you can afford a large ATM connection than you can afford a REAL router. Part of the proccessing overhead accompanied with a large drain isn't just simply the amount of bandwidth being used at anyone time, but the number of packets per second as well. Not only is the pc's cpu a limiting factor but also it's bus. not even a 64bit pci slot with an ATM card couldn't keep up. Cisco makes 12000 series routers for a reason :) Leave the pc's for what they are inteded to be used for. They make fine routers at home for your cable or dsl connection, but if you want sheer flexibility and power in a corporate enviroment, they are useless especially with thier much higfher failure rate comapred to a cisco.
Who really cares if your post got hacked up and some links were added in. It's not like you wrote a novel that you are going to sell and someone is distibuting a pirated modified version of it.
:) But then you wouldn't have your access to binary pics of pr0n and hamsters with duct tape either. :)
Also if you have a real ISP and pay money, they probably have a news server. use it and read usenet with a real client and forget about it. It's good for you, and contains vitamin C.
Or everyone could let go of usenet like the majority of the world is. It's dying a painful death and it's time to go out with old and in with the new! Whatever the new may be. some nice pretty flash based web forums.
The main reason I purchased a mouse for my c64 was for GEOS. With the GEOS programming bundle and a 640k ram expander on my c64, you could do some neat things.
Heh. As it says, 0wned and it's even trademarked. BTW I wonder what that number on that white board is... could it be an ip address to some noetwork somewhere heh.
Man you guys are gonna make me relive my childhood and start an ancient computer collection. If I only still had some of the machines I had. where to start... c-64, c-sx64, c-128, several amigas, a mac plus, timex sinclair z80, those crappy ti-994/a's heh. I even had an old portable kaypro machine that ran CP/M. I think my favorite overal machine I had was my sx-64 whith it's built in 9" color monitor and 1541 disk drive. I guess I'm gonna have to go shopping at the flea markets and thrift stores now. BTW is there anyone here that used CP/M for anything usefull? I was just too young at the time to rember any apps for CP/M. Long Live 8" floppies!
I'm supprised they had no mention of the CBM PET from the 70's or even any mention about about the c-64 then primarily the amiga which led to a great deal of the multimedia stuff we have today. The amiga was the first multimedia computer, way before the multimedia craze hit around 1995. IIRC Development of the amiga and it's OS started around 1980 and it became available in 1986. I miss all my old amigas..... :)