I was recently in Indianapolis. They have 1 newspaper. Does the NYT, USA today (if you want to call it a "news" paper), etc offer stories regarding local transit problems, tax base issues, etc? How then should we presume that these rednecks will have a reasonable idea of the breadth of the issues when its time to excercise their constitutional right to vote? There used to be several papers in many cities. Now there are 1 or two. Its not the NYC or LAs that its happening in. Its the medium to small market towns.
It seems like we agree then. Should I buy or will you be getting the first round? I am absolutely in opposition to term limits. My question about oil was more sarcastic then anything. Yep, adjusted for inflation and compared to the rest of the world, oil is cheap. I can fire up my Excursion and go anywhere I like. Its my right to buy what ever vehicle I want isn't it? I earned my money - screw everybody and everything else.
The alternative proposed by this New Left is a socialist system where the *government* runs everything Perhaps I could interest you in some Keynesian economics? Government and Biz don't have to be mutually exclusive. By the same token the "get the government off our back" arguement gets old also.
Corporations have an *extreme* amount of accountability, to their shareholders, to the market, and more important to the consumers. AOL is sucessful because it caters to a large group of people and does it well. Ditto Microsoft, or almost any other major corporation. Extreme accountability to consumers? Since when? If regulations didn't require seatbelts or any other means to a safter life, corps wouldn't mess with it. Chrysler recently admitted to cost savings that sacrificed saftey. Now that's extreme! Shareholders don't care about any accountability other than profit. When did the pursuit of billions of $$$ ever have a moral compass?
sorry for the second consec. post!!:(
Big Media isn't more powerful than ever Huh? Medium market cities in the US have 1 newpaper and 2 corporations competing the airwaves. That equals 2 "alternative" 2 "country" 2 "top 40" 2 etc.... 1 newpaper equals 1 dominant voice. That's pretty powerful.
James Madison and Alexander Hamilton harped on the necessity of an informed and active populous to drive democracy. With intelligent, public discourse reaching anemic levels in the US I can't help but be a bit uneasy. We haven't and are not taking the time to dial-in and figure out what the hell is happening. Why is the price of oil so high? Why are term limits riduculous and un-democratic? Why do Iranians and Guatamalans have contempt for the US? These questions are no longer even contemplated in the media (and worse, in the schools). So how can we make good decisions when its time to vote or, god forbid, protest? The answer is: We don't make good decisions - in fact many now chose no decision: Apathy. Moral indifference! That should have us worried.
Corporations don't answer to people like governments potentially do/could. Don't give me that shareholders arguement either - it doesn't hold up! Now our opinions are shaped by corporate interests, with an agenda, and no accountability.
Could this be a problem? huh, me thinks maybe.
(longest post ever)
This is the dumbest thread I have ever seen on this site. Please post short-sighted, flag-waving, and generaly moronic comments to an AOL msg board.
The nation-state is taking a backseat to the corporation. Potential problem: Nations (mostly democratic ones) have to be some what accountable to constituents - Corporations don't. Do you see a problem yet? A system predicated on $$$ is not one that I'm crazy about living in. Thats just me..the Captain.
Bill Gates gives tons but not 50%. Also the ability to acquire enormous wealth today has substantialy altered things. you present good points - just adding. On another note, I really do commend Gates' choice of charities: childrens' health and well-being.
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We could debate Bush's politics or lack of any sense but what would that do?
What seems a bit odd is how Moore applauds Bush for what he hasn't done. Re: Not repealing Clintons presidential dictates. How can we expect any progress with such low expectations. This is how W. has made a life. What a pity for all of us. People like Moore have and should help us slower folk empower ourselves with higher expectations.
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yep, the French get slaughter by Jacque' (Spelled it wrong) and his cadre of the unholy. 90% of Americans couldn't even tell you the leaders of Mexico or Canada - our neighbors. Hell, most Americans believed Ronald Ray-gun when he said that the contras were freedom fighters. They were murdering thugs! We are fat and stupid, Jerry Springer watching morons. How many americans can even intelligently discuss, world events, science, or the arts?
You are not smart - Think before you post! The US and the west are the reason people in Asia and Africa get slaughtered. We supported Pinochet and Mobutu Sese-Seko (sp again!) - blood is on our hands as well as the speciall sauce from our flesh burgers.
I disagree with your first premise. People should not expect to be monitored like this in public libraries or places. It is only after a legally binding expectation has been established. Either by a waiver or some sort of signed documentation. If the government has not told me that they are monitoring or watching me than, by god, they had better not be. These students (and parents) knew that they had no expectation of privacy. Without a warrant or waiver the gov. should stay out of my life (and yours)!
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I refuse to have my thinking affecting by a Jerry Bruckheimer Movie...respectfully: come on!!!
I believe that the overriding factor here is an expectation of privacy. When accessing the I-net from the school that expectation should not have been present. It sounds like the students and parents signed a waiver. They had no expectation of privacy. I am not convinced this ruling sends us on a slippery slope.
thoughts?
It is listed as "non-standard" software. In other words: IT does not load or support it.
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Hezbollah was not the best reference. I seem to be with everybody else here (note my earlier quote) but I don't like your reference - just me - preach on though!
I used to work for the Pharma company in question. In fact I supported the lab were prozac was pieced together. (I am not aware of the woman that you are refering to)! Here is an interesting note: The Pharma company in question does not use disk keeper! Seems that there is a "handshake" agreement between CoS and the Pharma company. We purchase thousand of $ worth of the software and then had to throw it out. The whole thing was a bit creepy.
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I was recently in Indianapolis. They have 1 newspaper. Does the NYT, USA today (if you want to call it a "news" paper), etc offer stories regarding local transit problems, tax base issues, etc? How then should we presume that these rednecks will have a reasonable idea of the breadth of the issues when its time to excercise their constitutional right to vote? There used to be several papers in many cities. Now there are 1 or two. Its not the NYC or LAs that its happening in. Its the medium to small market towns.
It seems like we agree then. Should I buy or will you be getting the first round? I am absolutely in opposition to term limits. My question about oil was more sarcastic then anything. Yep, adjusted for inflation and compared to the rest of the world, oil is cheap. I can fire up my Excursion and go anywhere I like. Its my right to buy what ever vehicle I want isn't it? I earned my money - screw everybody and everything else.
The alternative proposed by this New Left is a socialist system where the *government* runs everything Perhaps I could interest you in some Keynesian economics? Government and Biz don't have to be mutually exclusive. By the same token the "get the government off our back" arguement gets old also. Corporations have an *extreme* amount of accountability, to their shareholders, to the market, and more important to the consumers. AOL is sucessful because it caters to a large group of people and does it well. Ditto Microsoft, or almost any other major corporation. Extreme accountability to consumers? Since when? If regulations didn't require seatbelts or any other means to a safter life, corps wouldn't mess with it. Chrysler recently admitted to cost savings that sacrificed saftey. Now that's extreme! Shareholders don't care about any accountability other than profit. When did the pursuit of billions of $$$ ever have a moral compass? sorry for the second consec. post!! :(
Big Media isn't more powerful than ever Huh? Medium market cities in the US have 1 newpaper and 2 corporations competing the airwaves. That equals 2 "alternative" 2 "country" 2 "top 40" 2 etc.... 1 newpaper equals 1 dominant voice. That's pretty powerful.
Which 10 companies? I thought it was far fewer. More like 4 or 5. Can't remember where I saw that...maybe PBS "Merchants of Cool".
James Madison and Alexander Hamilton harped on the necessity of an informed and active populous to drive democracy. With intelligent, public discourse reaching anemic levels in the US I can't help but be a bit uneasy. We haven't and are not taking the time to dial-in and figure out what the hell is happening. Why is the price of oil so high? Why are term limits riduculous and un-democratic? Why do Iranians and Guatamalans have contempt for the US? These questions are no longer even contemplated in the media (and worse, in the schools). So how can we make good decisions when its time to vote or, god forbid, protest? The answer is: We don't make good decisions - in fact many now chose no decision: Apathy. Moral indifference! That should have us worried. Corporations don't answer to people like governments potentially do/could. Don't give me that shareholders arguement either - it doesn't hold up! Now our opinions are shaped by corporate interests, with an agenda, and no accountability. Could this be a problem? huh, me thinks maybe. (longest post ever)
This is the dumbest thread I have ever seen on this site. Please post short-sighted, flag-waving, and generaly moronic comments to an AOL msg board. The nation-state is taking a backseat to the corporation. Potential problem: Nations (mostly democratic ones) have to be some what accountable to constituents - Corporations don't. Do you see a problem yet? A system predicated on $$$ is not one that I'm crazy about living in. Thats just me..the Captain.
Bill Gates gives tons but not 50%. Also the ability to acquire enormous wealth today has substantialy altered things. you present good points - just adding. On another note, I really do commend Gates' choice of charities: childrens' health and well-being. da captain
We could debate Bush's politics or lack of any sense but what would that do? What seems a bit odd is how Moore applauds Bush for what he hasn't done. Re: Not repealing Clintons presidential dictates. How can we expect any progress with such low expectations. This is how W. has made a life. What a pity for all of us. People like Moore have and should help us slower folk empower ourselves with higher expectations. Piece, Captain Ober
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yep, the French get slaughter by Jacque' (Spelled it wrong) and his cadre of the unholy. 90% of Americans couldn't even tell you the leaders of Mexico or Canada - our neighbors. Hell, most Americans believed Ronald Ray-gun when he said that the contras were freedom fighters. They were murdering thugs! We are fat and stupid, Jerry Springer watching morons. How many americans can even intelligently discuss, world events, science, or the arts? You are not smart - Think before you post! The US and the west are the reason people in Asia and Africa get slaughtered. We supported Pinochet and Mobutu Sese-Seko (sp again!) - blood is on our hands as well as the speciall sauce from our flesh burgers.
No more latin! I had to find and download a translator to figure out what was going on!!! :-)
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I disagree with your first premise. People should not expect to be monitored like this in public libraries or places. It is only after a legally binding expectation has been established. Either by a waiver or some sort of signed documentation. If the government has not told me that they are monitoring or watching me than, by god, they had better not be. These students (and parents) knew that they had no expectation of privacy. Without a warrant or waiver the gov. should stay out of my life (and yours)! Capt O 01
I refuse to have my thinking affecting by a Jerry Bruckheimer Movie...respectfully: come on!!! I believe that the overriding factor here is an expectation of privacy. When accessing the I-net from the school that expectation should not have been present. It sounds like the students and parents signed a waiver. They had no expectation of privacy. I am not convinced this ruling sends us on a slippery slope. thoughts?
It is listed as "non-standard" software. In other words: IT does not load or support it.
Hezbollah was not the best reference. I seem to be with everybody else here (note my earlier quote) but I don't like your reference - just me - preach on though!
I used to work for the Pharma company in question. In fact I supported the lab were prozac was pieced together. (I am not aware of the woman that you are refering to)! Here is an interesting note: The Pharma company in question does not use disk keeper! Seems that there is a "handshake" agreement between CoS and the Pharma company. We purchase thousand of $ worth of the software and then had to throw it out. The whole thing was a bit creepy.