Terrorism is not so likely, because otherwise the guy would have crashed the plane on something that matters. Not into some anonymous and deserted mountains.
Indeed. Moreover, regardless how depressive the pilot is in the cockpit, he will be way less tempted to perform such a silly suicide action with someone just close to him. We're not talking about a jack-bauer style terrorist here. Quite the opposite actually.
So you open the door and have everyone killed in the plane + the people where the terrorist chose to crash the aircraft? Or you just land safely at the nearest airport?
one of the pilots wanted to crash the plane, and used the cockpit security system to prevent the other crew from interfering. This was not part of the threat model, and that made the current security system work in favor of the attacker instead of the rest of the crew. Not good. It cost 150 lives.
It's not perfect, but can you estimate the number of planes and lives saved from terrorism thanks to the current system?
What about a stroke while still breathing, locking accidentally the door to "locked from inside", triggering accidentally the descent mechanism, accidentally not answering the door?
Or he chose the remote location because that was the route he was scheduled to fly that day.
Ok, you seem knowledgeable. But at least we can "thank" the guy not to have crashed the plane on a big city (he had a lot of choices available around).
I wonder how much paranoia this tragedy will add to the cockpit ambience. In big companies, most of the time the captain and the co-pilot don't really know each other. Often, each of them is seeing the other as a complete stranger.
pilot suicide/ homicide is just as much a bizarre outlier as murderous hijacking
Oh the irony! The A320 was one of the first planes to have only 2 pilots instead of 2 pilots + 1 engineer (for cost reasons). At the time, 2 persons could always be in the cockpit at anytime.
Why did he choose that far away route? Likely because there is nobody where it crashed, and the crash would not hurt more people. The likeness goes to something passionate. His wife cheated on him / his wife's lover was on the plane...
Very unlikely. It's been explained that the door lock has 3 positions: Not locked, Normal, Locked. The door is always in the "Normal" position: the normal position allows another pilot, outside the cockpit, to unlock and enter the door after entering a digital code. The "Locked" position is used only in extreme cases, and nobody but the people inside the cockpit may unlock the door. The door has been switched to "Locked".
It doesn't matter how big you engineer for, sooner or later something big enough will come along and topple everything. Containing high water levels in nature has been tried many times before and they always fail sooner or later.
So is it a bad idea to be protected against 95% of all tsunami, instead of 75%?
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Why are you lying about such a thing?
The lying part is your interpretation of the pics. I've never said that was the same city, and the pics were just some illustration for the post.
Terrorism is not so likely, because otherwise the guy would have crashed the plane on something that matters. Not into some anonymous and deserted mountains.
A pilot hired and selected by an airline company. You have your answer.
Indeed. Moreover, regardless how depressive the pilot is in the cockpit, he will be way less tempted to perform such a silly suicide action with someone just close to him. We're not talking about a jack-bauer style terrorist here. Quite the opposite actually.
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So you open the door and have everyone killed in the plane + the people where the terrorist chose to crash the aircraft? Or you just land safely at the nearest airport?
one of the pilots wanted to crash the plane, and used the cockpit security system to prevent the other crew from interfering. This was not part of the threat model, and that made the current security system work in favor of the attacker instead of the rest of the crew. Not good. It cost 150 lives.
It's not perfect, but can you estimate the number of planes and lives saved from terrorism thanks to the current system?
If having another person in the cockpit reduces the risk of suicidal success by "only" 50%, I take it anyway.
What about a stroke while still breathing, locking accidentally the door to "locked from inside", triggering accidentally the descent mechanism, accidentally not answering the door?
All the events combined, the probability of Jupiter to crash into Saturn before tomorrow is more likely.
Thanks, but where is the source link?
Or he chose the remote location because that was the route he was scheduled to fly that day.
Ok, you seem knowledgeable. But at least we can "thank" the guy not to have crashed the plane on a big city (he had a lot of choices available around).
I'd be more worried about the pilots who actually pilot the plane. We have them on every flight. Terrorists not so much.
Maybe thanks to that door lock mechanism?
I wonder how much paranoia this tragedy will add to the cockpit ambience. In big companies, most of the time the captain and the co-pilot don't really know each other. Often, each of them is seeing the other as a complete stranger.
If one of the pilots needs to leave the cockpit, a member of the flight crew will step in until the other pilot returns.
Preferably cute?
pilot suicide/ homicide is just as much a bizarre outlier as murderous hijacking
Oh the irony! The A320 was one of the first planes to have only 2 pilots instead of 2 pilots + 1 engineer (for cost reasons). At the time, 2 persons could always be in the cockpit at anytime.
Giving one pilot (in the cockpit) the means to basically lock himself in with no ability for the other pilot to enter is too great a danger.
Except when there is a terrorist threatening the pilot outside, asking him to enter the code...
Why did he choose that far away route? Likely because there is nobody where it crashed, and the crash would not hurt more people. The likeness goes to something passionate. His wife cheated on him / his wife's lover was on the plane...
And lock the door just before?
The door has been switched to "Locked".
Let me rephrase that: The door has likely been switched to "Locked".
Very unlikely. It's been explained that the door lock has 3 positions: Not locked, Normal, Locked. The door is always in the "Normal" position: the normal position allows another pilot, outside the cockpit, to unlock and enter the door after entering a digital code. The "Locked" position is used only in extreme cases, and nobody but the people inside the cockpit may unlock the door. The door has been switched to "Locked".
They should make an underwater passage: the 8000 miles become kilometers
the politician's cousin/uncle/brother-in-law who surprisingly "won" the bid for construction is very happy. Politics as usual.
Indeed, that's sad, and nobody in Japan will raise that problem high enough that it becomes a concern for everyone.
It doesn't matter how big you engineer for, sooner or later something big enough will come along and topple everything. Containing high water levels in nature has been tried many times before and they always fail sooner or later.
So is it a bad idea to be protected against 95% of all tsunami, instead of 75%?
Well you have only 0.51 meter of the sea coming inside.