See, it all works out because they make it up from the interest on the money that they don't have to pay out to adwords accounts that aren't over $100. Kinda like how a bank makes money.
Actually there was some other article I read recently about how much Google probably makes off of that, but I can't find it now.
I want you to watch a few clips of David R Grubb and then get back with me on censorship. David goes on an on about nothing related and they never take his mic away. In fact they are nice enough to make an exception one time and give him more time. But he keeps coming back and they don't stop it even if it wastes their time. Gotta love the politicians that put up with that.
From watching the video of Andrew asking questions and having been to several Q&A sessions myself for speakers, I can saw that Andrew was far from going overboard or wasting everyone's time. Kerry even started to answer his question and Andrew probably would have let him do so.
Not at that point they weren't. Free speech doesn't mean freedom to hijack someone else's audience or freedom to use their sound equipment. He was perfectly free to stand outside that building (assuming it's public property that he stands on) and say what he wanted to say.
Bullshit! He was in the auditorium at a public institution. And he was asking the question during the Q&A session or at the end of his speech, not rudely interrupting his speech.
I think people thinking that you can only protest or speak against something outside on the street is a myth propagated and enforced by those that don't want to deal with it.
See, I have a problem with that. There is nothing wrong with resisting arrest when you've not done anything wrong. An officer saying "you were distribing the peace" doesn't cut it; this is supposed to be a free society, were we CANNOT be arrested at whim.
Ok, I see what you are getting at. What I was saying that he should have know that if continued to resisting arrest that they were going to elevate it. He should have know as soon as they shut off the mic and pulled him away from the microphone that his free speech rights where being violated. Maybe in that case it would have only been covered by the local paper, but somehow a taser has a way of electrifying a story all the way to the top.
I think the people who are saying he did it because he's an attention whore are misguided. Of course he is an attention whore. But there are no laws in this country against someone being an asshole nor should there be. The moment that cops arrest someone because they think they are a jerk or because they think their opinion is lopsided is the moment they are crossing the line and denying someone freedom of speech. That's what this should be all about, the taser thing is seperate IMHO.
His name is Andrew Meyer. Some people are claiming that he is crazy and that police did things by the book. I don't know what to think. Its hard to find neutral information amongst all the people crying "foul".
I'm sure that if it had been someone else speaking besides a presidential candidate, police would not have been there and Andrew would have been just politely asked to stop talking over and over. He probably deserved to be Tasered because he was resisting arrest, but he didn't deserve to be taken away from the mic.
These are the guys that released that really cool Desktop GUI + PPP stack + web browser and OS on a single floppy disk back in the 90s. I remember also reading that the Photon GUI would let you pass applications between computers through a dock on the side of the screen. Neat stuff.
Mediawiki doesn't count all articles in its article count. And I'm not talking about talk or image pages either. I think it has a threshold of like 72 bytes before it counts an article as an article. So they are most likely way over 2 million. For instance, Bloomingpedia actually has 2,148 articles right now but the Mediawiki count on the front page only shows 2,106. So 42 of the articles are smaller than the threshold.
However, if they (or anyone else) need a plugin for Mediawiki that will list the pages in order so that you can count them and determine which article was the Nth article, I wrote a plugin called Page Create Order that will put a special page called "List Pages By Creation Date" in your wiki. We developed it for Bloomingpedia originally. Its simple, but it does the job. It could be easily modified to only count articles that are of a certain size as well, the main purpose of this plugin is to see the order in which pages where created.
This is clearly an attempt by Microsoft to encourage people to buy more music to listen to while waiting to download the the upgrade to Vista SP1. I have pictures of a meeting between Steve Jobs and Bill Gates at a Carl's Jr. Steve handed an envelope under the table to Bill. Who knew?!?! Now it all makes sense why iTunes was promoting a track last week called "The Biggest EULA of Her Life" by Randy Newman.
This is human nature and it does not just apply to computers.
Example: If a girl is a real bitch then people expect her to be a bitch and if she is suddenly nice one day, then people say "Wow, she's so nice today". But if someone is nice all the time then one day gets angry people say "What's wrong with her, sheesh."
Its not a double standard, its human nature. Nuff said, discussion over.
And did Taco really say that about this story? I recall it being their policy not to comment on why stories are/aren't accepted.
I actually emailed him personally and asked him if there was a reason why they weren't running a story on this. What I quoted him saying is exactly and all that he sent back.
(I'm coming out of comment retirement to criticize Slashdot, not the community)
Slashdot, you should be ashamed of yourself. Doing nothing to help, but claiming the rights after the fact. This was exactly the kind of grass roots project that you would have announced in the past, but choose to purposefully ignore it this time. You had a chance to announce this a long time ago, but according to Rob Malda himself, who said in full "there are so many reasons that this story doesn't interest me:)", the grass roots project wasn't worthy of your sacred pages. There were several times that a story about this project appeared in the firehose, but no story about the project's existance ever made it to the front page.
All it would have taken from you is to accept one measley little story about the Tux500 project a few weeks ago and *bam*, it would have had the proper amount of publicity to energize the Linux community and raise enough money to fully sponsor the car. All it took was $1 from each person in just 1% of the community, so it would have worked even with 80% of the community doing their own thing. But since the project didn't get the good publicity it deserved, it only raised half the amount needed just to put a logo on the car. Fortunately the good will of the tux500 team seems to be allowing the logo to still be on the car. I guess they are better people than you.
You know why so many community projects fail? Because the leaders don't believe in them.
Just so the rest of you know for this discussion, I understand that sites like Slashdot are news sites. But IMHO, only half a news site. There have been hundreds of stories here over the years meant to mobilize the community (ie. Blender). I ask, why not this one?
From the article: But what about power users, such as the typical audience of HardOCP - those who know how to build their own computers, but not compile their own programs?
IMHO, anyone who wants all the control of building your own computer, reads a website which has overclocking in the name and thinks Linux/FreeBSD/Open Source is either misguided about the benifits of Linux or is just lazy. Putting your own computer together these days with all the options, choices to make, etc. is getting harder than it was 10 years ago. Meanwhile, Linux has been getting easier. So I don't see where the challenge is for these people.
It is nice to see that non-Linux people are continuing to give Linux a try. Most things in the world only get one chance and then its over.
Stupid. Patents are already too expensive for an individual to acquire ($10,000 or so each, all said) and under your second method, a person could form a start-up or a patent farm with little or even negative revenue and grab a boatload of cheap patents.
Ok, I guess I shouldn't make any more suggestions if they are just stupid. Your turn.
Don't waste your time asking about it on Slashdot. You should be writing to the president of your University and make him aware of your concerns. If they don't change, transfer to another college.
Even thought it turned out to not be true, there are a lot of people who only read Slashdot and other news places during the week and won't see this retraction, so they may never know that it was fake. So they will go off with a further impression that its unsafe to run Vista and you could have your legitimate key compromised at any moment. Its like the tactics that some politicians and corporations use. What is someone going to post next week and retract on Saturday?
10 years ago, I was one of the first people at IU to receive a threatening letter from the RIAA because one of my users on suso.org was hosting copyrighted mp3s. So how is this really a new tactic?
I swear sometimes that Slashdot articles follow my life. Just an hour ago I realized that some jackass had posted a link to a 5MB image on Bloomingpedia over 300 times in a comment he made on a myspace page. This was obviously an attempt to disrupt things either on Bloomingpedia or on the myspace page. So I decided to teach this jackass a lesson and use a rewrite rule that turns those image requests into humiliating messages about himself. Some people may have thought I went too far, and maybe that would be the case if he had posted just a few links to the image in his comment, but 300 is excessive. If you're going to do something like this, don't do it from your real account.
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See, it all works out because they make it up from the interest on the money that they don't have to pay out to adwords accounts that aren't over $100. Kinda like how a bank makes money.
Actually there was some other article I read recently about how much Google probably makes off of that, but I can't find it now.
I want you to watch a few clips of David R Grubb and then get back with me on censorship. David goes on an on about nothing related and they never take his mic away. In fact they are nice enough to make an exception one time and give him more time. But he keeps coming back and they don't stop it even if it wastes their time. Gotta love the politicians that put up with that.
From watching the video of Andrew asking questions and having been to several Q&A sessions myself for speakers, I can saw that Andrew was far from going overboard or wasting everyone's time. Kerry even started to answer his question and Andrew probably would have let him do so.
Not at that point they weren't. Free speech doesn't mean freedom to hijack someone else's audience or freedom to use their sound equipment. He was perfectly free to stand outside that building (assuming it's public property that he stands on) and say what he wanted to say.
Bullshit! He was in the auditorium at a public institution. And he was asking the question during the Q&A session or at the end of his speech, not rudely interrupting his speech.
I think people thinking that you can only protest or speak against something outside on the street is a myth propagated and enforced by those that don't want to deal with it.
See, I have a problem with that. There is nothing wrong with resisting arrest when you've not done anything wrong. An officer saying "you were distribing the peace" doesn't cut it; this is supposed to be a free society, were we CANNOT be arrested at whim.
Ok, I see what you are getting at. What I was saying that he should have know that if continued to resisting arrest that they were going to elevate it. He should have know as soon as they shut off the mic and pulled him away from the microphone that his free speech rights where being violated. Maybe in that case it would have only been covered by the local paper, but somehow a taser has a way of electrifying a story all the way to the top.
I think the people who are saying he did it because he's an attention whore are misguided. Of course he is an attention whore. But there are no laws in this country against someone being an asshole nor should there be. The moment that cops arrest someone because they think they are a jerk or because they think their opinion is lopsided is the moment they are crossing the line and denying someone freedom of speech. That's what this should be all about, the taser thing is seperate IMHO.
His name is Andrew Meyer. Some people are claiming that he is crazy and that police did things by the book. I don't know what to think. Its hard to find neutral information amongst all the people crying "foul".
I'm sure that if it had been someone else speaking besides a presidential candidate, police would not have been there and Andrew would have been just politely asked to stop talking over and over. He probably deserved to be Tasered because he was resisting arrest, but he didn't deserve to be taken away from the mic.
These are the guys that released that really cool Desktop GUI + PPP stack + web browser and OS on a single floppy disk back in the 90s. I remember also reading that the Photon GUI would let you pass applications between computers through a dock on the side of the screen. Neat stuff.
Mediawiki doesn't count all articles in its article count. And I'm not talking about talk or image pages either. I think it has a threshold of like 72 bytes before it counts an article as an article. So they are most likely way over 2 million. For instance, Bloomingpedia actually has 2,148 articles right now but the Mediawiki count on the front page only shows 2,106. So 42 of the articles are smaller than the threshold.
However, if they (or anyone else) need a plugin for Mediawiki that will list the pages in order so that you can count them and determine which article was the Nth article, I wrote a plugin called Page Create Order that will put a special page called "List Pages By Creation Date" in your wiki. We developed it for Bloomingpedia originally. Its simple, but it does the job. It could be easily modified to only count articles that are of a certain size as well, the main purpose of this plugin is to see the order in which pages where created.
It took 5000 years to come to this conclusion?
Maybe this explains why religion persists in the face of logic, it was here before science.
This is clearly an attempt by Microsoft to encourage people to buy more music to listen to while waiting to download the the upgrade to Vista SP1. I have pictures of a meeting between Steve Jobs and Bill Gates at a Carl's Jr. Steve handed an envelope under the table to Bill. Who knew?!?! Now it all makes sense why iTunes was promoting a track last week called "The Biggest EULA of Her Life" by Randy Newman.
Yeah, I have no gripes with Yahoo, they always return my ping requests within milliseconds.
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This is human nature and it does not just apply to computers.
Example: If a girl is a real bitch then people expect her to be a bitch and if she is suddenly nice one day, then people say "Wow, she's so nice today". But if someone is nice all the time then one day gets angry people say "What's wrong with her, sheesh."
Its not a double standard, its human nature. Nuff said, discussion over.
And did Taco really say that about this story? I recall it being their policy not to comment on why stories are/aren't accepted.
I actually emailed him personally and asked him if there was a reason why they weren't running a story on this. What I quoted him saying is exactly and all that he sent back.
(that said, I may be biased because as an Australian this story doesn't really interest me either)
Obviously it did interest you because you bothered to read the comments for it.
(I'm coming out of comment retirement to criticize Slashdot, not the community)
:)", the grass roots project wasn't worthy of your sacred pages. There were several times that a story about this project appeared in the firehose, but no story about the project's existance ever made it to the front page.
Slashdot, you should be ashamed of yourself. Doing nothing to help, but claiming the rights after the fact. This was exactly the kind of grass roots project that you would have announced in the past, but choose to purposefully ignore it this time. You had a chance to announce this a long time ago, but according to Rob Malda himself, who said in full "there are so many reasons that this story doesn't interest me
All it would have taken from you is to accept one measley little story about the Tux500 project a few weeks ago and *bam*, it would have had the proper amount of publicity to energize the Linux community and raise enough money to fully sponsor the car. All it took was $1 from each person in just 1% of the community, so it would have worked even with 80% of the community doing their own thing. But since the project didn't get the good publicity it deserved, it only raised half the amount needed just to put a logo on the car. Fortunately the good will of the tux500 team seems to be allowing the logo to still be on the car. I guess they are better people than you.
You know why so many community projects fail? Because the leaders don't believe in them.
Just so the rest of you know for this discussion, I understand that sites like Slashdot are news sites. But IMHO, only half a news site. There have been hundreds of stories here over the years meant to mobilize the community (ie. Blender). I ask, why not this one?
From the article: But what about power users, such as the typical audience of HardOCP - those who know how to build their own computers, but not compile their own programs?
IMHO, anyone who wants all the control of building your own computer, reads a website which has overclocking in the name and thinks Linux/FreeBSD/Open Source is either misguided about the benifits of Linux or is just lazy. Putting your own computer together these days with all the options, choices to make, etc. is getting harder than it was 10 years ago. Meanwhile, Linux has been getting easier. So I don't see where the challenge is for these people.
It is nice to see that non-Linux people are continuing to give Linux a try. Most things in the world only get one chance and then its over.
Stupid. Patents are already too expensive for an individual to acquire ($10,000 or so each, all said) and under your second method, a person could form a start-up or a patent farm with little or even negative revenue and grab a boatload of cheap patents.
Ok, I guess I shouldn't make any more suggestions if they are just stupid. Your turn.
I think they need to raise the cost of getting a patent or base it on annual revenue of the company applying. This may solve a number of problems.
Don't waste your time asking about it on Slashdot. You should be writing to the president of your University and make him aware of your concerns. If they don't change, transfer to another college.
Even thought it turned out to not be true, there are a lot of people who only read Slashdot and other news places during the week and won't see this retraction, so they may never know that it was fake. So they will go off with a further impression that its unsafe to run Vista and you could have your legitimate key compromised at any moment. Its like the tactics that some politicians and corporations use. What is someone going to post next week and retract on Saturday?
You cannot possibly be a Best Buy employee because you know what the difference between an intranet and the Internet is.
10 years ago, I was one of the first people at IU to receive a threatening letter from the RIAA because one of my users on suso.org was hosting copyrighted mp3s. So how is this really a new tactic?
It reminds me a lot of something you'd see in the movie "Brazil". Pretty cool. I like the "Shift Freedom" key.
The comments. They've stopped.
Why? What happened?
I swear sometimes that Slashdot articles follow my life. Just an hour ago I realized that some jackass had posted a link to a 5MB image on Bloomingpedia over 300 times in a comment he made on a myspace page. This was obviously an attempt to disrupt things either on Bloomingpedia or on the myspace page. So I decided to teach this jackass a lesson and use a rewrite rule that turns those image requests into humiliating messages about himself. Some people may have thought I went too far, and maybe that would be the case if he had posted just a few links to the image in his comment, but 300 is excessive. If you're going to do something like this, don't do it from your real account.