An incident in my small hometown in india kind of changed every thing . This was a internet cafe who previously ran windows 98 despite years of windows Xp . The reason why they didnt move was that they don't like to move . I went there to take a printout with USB key from my machine . The net centre guy was about to start a anti virus scan . I told him that its from a GNU/Linux machine.
The net centre guy stopped the scan saying that "virus wont exist in lihnux "and started asking me if he should migrate to"lihnux".I obviously said yes but before that I started thinking how I used to suggest them to go to GNU/Linux . Now they are considering to go to GNU/Linux all by themselves .
When Google announced that it was building an linux kernel based OS for netbook , I expected a huge number of Hardware vendors sitting down to get their hardware working .
But the first demo shows that its only meant to *cripple* a netbook . Google can't dictate what people should be doing with their netbooks when ubuntu/debian/mandriva or other eee pc based distros are working seamlessly . Added to that I don't think everyone is connected everywhere . I had to search for wifi locations in london city . Maybe 2050 would be the apt time for such a release !
+1
I used KDE4 packages for debian lenny for a long time and it rarely crashed !
At the same time Kubuntu's officially released packages crashed . They better get packages from debian unstable:)
I am using the packages from Debian KDE4 project and Debian eee-pc project .
Check my blog post on EEEPC with KDE4 on debian lenny
It's been 7 months I dont have any complaints on the speed but I am irritated with the resolution . Most desktop apps dont render properly in the small screens .
No one is paranoid . Most people still use apache or mozilla or any other non gpl'ed open source license. They are living with it . But the safest bet as a open source code writer would be to license code in GPL because of the restrictions it imposes on the code and protects the principal or first contributor to the code and he would get proper due for his efforts.
The ideal foss world will have entire GPL code . ( ideal.. hmm it kind of echoes GNU Hurd:D )
FSF is a great foundation . Do read FSF documents in its site and also please attend FSF meetings and talk to those people.
Meet the people at FSF and GNU IRC Channel .
Also could you please tell whats wrong with the para I am quoting below.
The free software movement's goal is freedom for computer users. Some, especially corporations, advocate a different viewpoint, known as "open source," which cites only practical goals such as making software powerful and reliable, focuses on development models, and avoids discussion of ethics and freedom. These two viewpoints are different at the deepest level. For more explanation, see http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html.
Finally I think that you are one of free as in beer.. and free as in free code guys:P
They only have two PCs sold Ubuntu and two PCs sold with no OS - none of which are even halfway modern systems. It's almost like they don't want to make money from Linux users.
In India dell is not offering many/no ubuntu options .
Dell store India shows 3 netbooks,all of them with "Genuine Windows® XP Home Edition":(
There is a discussion in chennai linux users group regarding this.
You'd almost think that some large monopoly was using them for a hand-puppet.
I've done so, and things have turned out not to work. For one thing, the NVIDIA TNT2 driver that came with the latest Ubuntu LTS version (8.04) didn't go over 640x480px, when Windows could run the same card at 1024x768px.
Nvidia always was and is a pain for Free software . I really love NVidia graphics and use Nvidia graphic card for my PC (mostly with free drivers )
AMD-ATI on the other hand is trying to free as much as it could . AMD site says
Some of the technologies supported in our driver are protected by non-disclosure agreements with third parties, so we cannot legally release the complete source code to our driver. It is NOT open source. We do, however, include source code for the control panel and certain other public segments. We also actively assist developers in the Open Source community with their work, so if you absolutely require an open source driver for your graphics card, we can recommend using drivers from the DRI project, Utah-GLX project, or others.
Maybe we should all encourage intel.. but power hungry users would always prefer either ATI or Nvidia. I would say go for ATI as it's less evil:D
Quote: How incomplete? So incomplete that, among other things , you won't yet be able to view YouTube videos, change your privacy settings, set your default search provider, or even print.
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I was shocked to see a browser which was unable to display web pages:O
The irony is that it comes from a company which is a leader on the web and uses GNU/Linux extensively .
Other problems being I was unable to open the JS console or task manager.. maybe in simple words this is a broken software which is not even suitable for testing !!
Details:
Running google chrome 3.0.183.1 on Debian lenny 2.6.26-1-686 with KDE 4.1.4
Yeah demand the money .
Anyways I bought EEE 901 and I used xandros for 2 days.. it was quite useful for simple tasks .
Couldn't stand it for more than 2 days . I installed Debian lenny on to it.. and I am posting it from it . I am quite happy with debian eee project and it's wiki . Superb support .
Dunno why some people use M$ **it on such a beautiful piece of hardware !!
but by following links one gets the impression that they will be powered by Linux, not XP.
Glad to hear that:)
Anyways.. carolina looks like a testing ground before launching it to the third world , I think third world deserves a better OLPC with more features;)
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An incident in my small hometown in india kind of changed every thing . This was a internet cafe who previously ran windows 98 despite years of windows Xp . The reason why they didnt move was that they don't like to move . I went there to take a printout with USB key from my machine . The net centre guy was about to start a anti virus scan . I told him that its from a GNU/Linux machine .
The net centre guy stopped the scan saying that "virus wont exist in lihnux "and started asking me if he should migrate to"lihnux" .I obviously said yes but before that I started thinking how I used to suggest them to go to GNU/Linux . Now they are considering to go to GNU/Linux all by themselves .
When Google announced that it was building an linux kernel based OS for netbook , I expected a huge number of Hardware vendors sitting down to get their hardware working . But the first demo shows that its only meant to *cripple* a netbook . Google can't dictate what people should be doing with their netbooks when ubuntu/debian/mandriva or other eee pc based distros are working seamlessly . Added to that I don't think everyone is connected everywhere . I had to search for wifi locations in london city . Maybe 2050 would be the apt time for such a release !
+1 :)
I used KDE4 packages for debian lenny for a long time and it rarely crashed ! At the same time Kubuntu's officially released packages crashed . They better get packages from debian unstable
I am using the packages from Debian KDE4 project and Debian eee-pc project . Check my blog post on EEEPC with KDE4 on debian lenny
It's been 7 months I dont have any complaints on the speed but I am irritated with the resolution . Most desktop apps dont render properly in the small screens .
Hence I am waiting for Moblin to be usable
The free software movement's goal is freedom for computer users. Some, especially corporations, advocate a different viewpoint, known as "open source," which cites only practical goals such as making software powerful and reliable, focuses on development models, and avoids discussion of ethics and freedom. These two viewpoints are different at the deepest level. For more explanation, see http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html.
Finally I think that you are one of free as in beer .. and free as in free code guys :P
Maybe you need to understand the business models of free/open source software :P
They only have two PCs sold Ubuntu and two PCs sold with no OS - none of which are even halfway modern systems. It's almost like they don't want to make money from Linux users.
In India dell is not offering many/no ubuntu options . Dell store India shows 3 netbooks ,all of them with "Genuine Windows® XP Home Edition" :(
There is a discussion in chennai linux users group regarding this .
You'd almost think that some large monopoly was using them for a hand-puppet.
No need to guess :P
I've done so, and things have turned out not to work. For one thing, the NVIDIA TNT2 driver that came with the latest Ubuntu LTS version (8.04) didn't go over 640x480px, when Windows could run the same card at 1024x768px.
Nvidia always was and is a pain for Free software . I really love NVidia graphics and use Nvidia graphic card for my PC (mostly with free drivers ) AMD-ATI on the other hand is trying to free as much as it could . AMD site says
Some of the technologies supported in our driver are protected by non-disclosure agreements with third parties, so we cannot legally release the complete source code to our driver. It is NOT open source. We do, however, include source code for the control panel and certain other public segments. We also actively assist developers in the Open Source community with their work, so if you absolutely require an open source driver for your graphics card, we can recommend using drivers from the DRI project, Utah-GLX project, or others.
Maybe we should all encourage intel .. but power hungry users would always prefer either ATI or Nvidia. I would say go for ATI as it's less evil :D
I have to search google + chrome + linux for getting it . Anyways it was a sour experience cause my chrome install wont even open *a* page :(
Quote:
:O
.. maybe in simple words this is a broken software which is not even suitable for testing !!
How incomplete? So incomplete that, among other things , you won't yet be able to view YouTube videos, change your privacy settings, set your default search provider, or even print.
End Quote
I was shocked to see a browser which was unable to display web pages
The irony is that it comes from a company which is a leader on the web and uses GNU/Linux extensively .
Other problems being I was unable to open the JS console or task manager
Details:
Running google chrome 3.0.183.1 on Debian lenny 2.6.26-1-686 with KDE 4.1.4
There are many other protocols for people to communicate over the web.
Yeah demand the money . Anyways I bought EEE 901 and I used xandros for 2 days .. it was quite useful for simple tasks .
Couldn't stand it for more than 2 days . I installed Debian lenny on to it .. and I am posting it from it . I am quite happy with debian eee project and it's wiki . Superb support .
Dunno why some people use M$ **it on such a beautiful piece of hardware !!
but by following links one gets the impression that they will be powered by Linux, not XP. :) .. carolina looks like a testing ground before launching it to the third world , I think third world deserves a better OLPC with more features ;)
Glad to hear that
Anyways
Let's hope that oracle promotes OO as an alternative to Ms Office for it's huge customer base.