I think his signature is not a mathematical one. But even if you try to dessicate it with boolean logic I think you logic as some flaws.
-1:Troll && -1:Flamebait != -1
Assuming this is not a regular expression in C++ or even any language I think we cannot discard the Troll and Flamebait modifiers. They can be many things. They can be functions:
Troll(-1) && Flamebait(-1) != -1
Witch I'm sure you agree that it can be a true expression.
And they could be type modifiers:
(Troll) -1 && (Flamebait) -1 != -1
Witch you will agree that could be a true expression as well depending on the cast conventions of those type modifiers.
Oracle as a big issue here. The open-source share of the market is there an isn't going anywhere. Hopefully they realize that and fully support mysql, or they can sabotage the progect. Big companies start to realize that it's very difficult to gain open source market with proprietary products.
I believe for some applications there are room for both commercial(proprietary) and non commercial(free) software. I don't know if Databases are one of this applications, but Oracle seems to be doing pretty well.
On the other hand if they don't fully(and I mean fully) support mysql, mysql users will soon been migrating to other open source alternatives(and not oracle for sure).
This is the kid of news that always put a smile on my face.
It's reassuring to know that hackers have plenty to entertain themselves with windows servers, letting my Linux boxes alone.
I agree most of what you said. Unfortunately it seems that someone will have to put some limits.
I'm talking Unfortunately because it could be avoided without those drastic measures.
I didn't make any scientific study of how much will save the planet if we reduce the CPU consumption
nor do I want to make any point on that specifically. I've just reacted to what I tough was a selfish comment,
that expresses the general idea(that's what is revolting to me and no one in specific).
I'm not imposing my ideas here but I do get angry when all I see around me is people that talk about the others
and are not willing to do anything themselves. It's especially revolting when we are talking about something that belongs to all of us, and few respect.
This is not about winning some debate on a flame war. This is mostly for us to get over our egos, look away from our computer, and meditate not on what we've been doing, but in
what can we do to make the world just a little better. If people start to think like this instead the easy way maybe, and then maybe we can do a better tomorrow.
Yes well when the increase in cardiac arrests leads to increases in defibrillator usage, at least you'll have saved plenty of watts to power them won't you, you lemon.
What a bad analogy, I must say.
Anyway, the Idea of this post seams idiotic. But that's not what I am discussing.
So what are you saying? People don't pollute at personal level? We can spend as much as we like because it's not going to make any difference?
You are being argumentative. You are pulling the classical minimization/exaggeration of the problem to minimize the personal use of energy. But I can even play by your rules if you like.
First 1.5 Terrawats is not 15 followed by 12 zeros. It's 15 followed by 11 zeros. But you are right about 15 Terawatts.
But even if everybody saves just 1 watt we are talking 6 Gigawatt's (6 fallowed by 9 zeros).
But we are not talking just about 1 watt do we? If we just save 100W per persone we are talking about 600 Gigawatt's worldwide. If we can save 1000W per person... well you know the math. And I'm not talking about something not doable. 1000 Watt's per person is nothing
I find that most problems are complex by nature and this is no exception. Trying to simplify does not help from my point of view. The problem isn't a watt here or a watt there.
The problem is about what you are willing to do to change the planet. And for what I'm seeing isn't much.
If everybody thinks that can't do the difference then no change will happen. It's a problem of mentalities. It's a problem of global conscience that very few seem to have.
Ellectricity is not just electricity.
We are now facing global energetic problems, and the increase of energy motivated wars is a proof of that.
We are facing production growth for decades, and it's subsequent energy needs. The problem is that we don't have infinite energy, and if we don't stop now to think about how to improve our energy consumption, it will maybe to late in 50 years. Not to mention the ambient problem that this implies.
About that just tiny difference that you mention, I have to say I disagree. I don't think it's tiny. I think if we can change the selfish habits even if in a small things, it will make a major diference. Everybody agrees in responsabilize the others and the bigger polluters, but most of the people are not willing to change any of their habit's and abdicate their confort for a better planet. I think this is an hypocrite way of thinking and viewing things. As long as everybody thinks like this nothing is going to change and everybody is responsible.
We had a campaign over here a few years back about separating the garbage for recycling. No one was recycling garbage at the time. The campaign was made for children. It was a uge success. The adults soon realize that their children ask them way they don't split the garbage, and since they have no excuse everybody started to recycle their garbage. This are the small changes that change the world. The children today are going to be the politicians, the C.E.O.'s of tomorrow. If everybody don't do nothing because is too little, then nothing will change.
Meanwhile - my 2.5 ghz machines will run full speed, 24/7. When I'm not actually USING them, they crunch Rosetta and Seti@home numbers.
Good for you. I see that you have are contributing to a greater cause. But I'm sure that even if you did run frequency scaling it wouldn't be any performance issue because as you probably well know frequency scaling identify when your CPU needs more than 5%.
I have a dual core 2.66 Desktop and my only regret is that the only allowed CPU freq are 2.00(75%) and 2.66(100%). If there was a 50% option on my CPU I will use it since I can't see the difference most of the time. When I'm compiling or playing Quake4 the CPU goes 100%. The only difference I've noticed is in the electric bill at the end of the month.
First of all, I can't stand down in to Wallmart and I don't have any intentions too because I'm not an American nor do I live in the US. You do know that SUV's is mostly an American thing.
But that's not the point, and I'm not going to make this an country issue, since we have the same shit over here. I must point out that I only use my car on the weekend's and I do use public transportation, but I know that's not an option to everybody especially in the USA.
About your comment, It's the kind of thinking that don't make you any better. I don't do "this" because the others don't do "that"... I don't buy an hybrid car because I want to squeeze a few miles per hour of my car and my car as to be faster than my neighbor's car. I want my quad core 3 GHz always at full speed even that I don't use 5% of my 4 CPU's most of the time.
Good thinking both of you. You should be real proud...
How much self-hate does someone need to actually want to punish themselves to save the planet? I guess we'll soon know.
That's one of the most selfish comments I've seen in a while. It's because of people like you that we all live under shit, you selfish bastard.
What's a few watts, sure. Multiply that for the millions that use computers and you have your answer.
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I think his signature is not a mathematical one. But even if you try to dessicate it with boolean logic I think you logic as some flaws.
-1:Troll && -1:Flamebait != -1
Assuming this is not a regular expression in C++ or even any language I think we cannot discard the Troll and Flamebait modifiers. They can be many things. They can be functions:
Troll(-1) && Flamebait(-1) != -1
Witch I'm sure you agree that it can be a true expression.
And they could be type modifiers:
(Troll) -1 && (Flamebait) -1 != -1
Witch you will agree that could be a true expression as well depending on the cast conventions of those type modifiers.
Oracle as a big issue here. The open-source share of the market is there an isn't going anywhere. Hopefully they realize that and fully support mysql, or they can sabotage the progect. Big companies start to realize that it's very difficult to gain open source market with proprietary products.
I believe for some applications there are room for both commercial(proprietary) and non commercial(free) software. I don't know if Databases are one of this applications, but Oracle seems to be doing pretty well.
On the other hand if they don't fully(and I mean fully) support mysql, mysql users will soon been migrating to other open source alternatives(and not oracle for sure).
This is the kid of news that always put a smile on my face.
It's reassuring to know that hackers have plenty to entertain themselves with windows servers, letting my Linux boxes alone.
But haven't we learned already that free isn't always a good thing?!
I think the guy isn't free as "it's so cheap that's is free". It's "pro bono" free, witch is usually a good thing.
I agree most of what you said. Unfortunately it seems that someone will have to put some limits.
I'm talking Unfortunately because it could be avoided without those drastic measures.
I didn't make any scientific study of how much will save the planet if we reduce the CPU consumption nor do I want to make any point on that specifically. I've just reacted to what I tough was a selfish comment, that expresses the general idea(that's what is revolting to me and no one in specific). I'm not imposing my ideas here but I do get angry when all I see around me is people that talk about the others and are not willing to do anything themselves. It's especially revolting when we are talking about something that belongs to all of us, and few respect.
This is not about winning some debate on a flame war. This is mostly for us to get over our egos, look away from our computer, and meditate not on what we've been doing, but in what can we do to make the world just a little better. If people start to think like this instead the easy way maybe, and then maybe we can do a better tomorrow.
Yes well when the increase in cardiac arrests leads to increases in defibrillator usage, at least you'll have saved plenty of watts to power them won't you, you lemon.
What a bad analogy, I must say.
Anyway, the Idea of this post seams idiotic. But that's not what I am discussing.
So what are you saying? People don't pollute at personal level? We can spend as much as we like because it's not going to make any difference?
You are being argumentative. You are pulling the classical minimization/exaggeration of the problem to minimize the personal use of energy. But I can even play by your rules if you like. First 1.5 Terrawats is not 15 followed by 12 zeros. It's 15 followed by 11 zeros. But you are right about 15 Terawatts. But even if everybody saves just 1 watt we are talking 6 Gigawatt's (6 fallowed by 9 zeros). But we are not talking just about 1 watt do we? If we just save 100W per persone we are talking about 600 Gigawatt's worldwide. If we can save 1000W per person... well you know the math. And I'm not talking about something not doable. 1000 Watt's per person is nothing
I find that most problems are complex by nature and this is no exception. Trying to simplify does not help from my point of view. The problem isn't a watt here or a watt there. The problem is about what you are willing to do to change the planet. And for what I'm seeing isn't much. If everybody thinks that can't do the difference then no change will happen. It's a problem of mentalities. It's a problem of global conscience that very few seem to have.
And we can do much at personal level.
Ellectricity is not just electricity. We are now facing global energetic problems, and the increase of energy motivated wars is a proof of that. We are facing production growth for decades, and it's subsequent energy needs. The problem is that we don't have infinite energy, and if we don't stop now to think about how to improve our energy consumption, it will maybe to late in 50 years. Not to mention the ambient problem that this implies.
About that just tiny difference that you mention, I have to say I disagree. I don't think it's tiny. I think if we can change the selfish habits even if in a small things, it will make a major diference. Everybody agrees in responsabilize the others and the bigger polluters, but most of the people are not willing to change any of their habit's and abdicate their confort for a better planet. I think this is an hypocrite way of thinking and viewing things. As long as everybody thinks like this nothing is going to change and everybody is responsible.
We had a campaign over here a few years back about separating the garbage for recycling. No one was recycling garbage at the time. The campaign was made for children. It was a uge success. The adults soon realize that their children ask them way they don't split the garbage, and since they have no excuse everybody started to recycle their garbage. This are the small changes that change the world. The children today are going to be the politicians, the C.E.O.'s of tomorrow. If everybody don't do nothing because is too little, then nothing will change.
Meanwhile - my 2.5 ghz machines will run full speed, 24/7. When I'm not actually USING them, they crunch Rosetta and Seti@home numbers.
Good for you. I see that you have are contributing to a greater cause. But I'm sure that even if you did run frequency scaling it wouldn't be any performance issue because as you probably well know frequency scaling identify when your CPU needs more than 5%.
I have a dual core 2.66 Desktop and my only regret is that the only allowed CPU freq are 2.00(75%) and 2.66(100%). If there was a 50% option on my CPU I will use it since I can't see the difference most of the time. When I'm compiling or playing Quake4 the CPU goes 100%. The only difference I've noticed is in the electric bill at the end of the month.
First of all, I can't stand down in to Wallmart and I don't have any intentions too because I'm not an American nor do I live in the US. You do know that SUV's is mostly an American thing. But that's not the point, and I'm not going to make this an country issue, since we have the same shit over here. I must point out that I only use my car on the weekend's and I do use public transportation, but I know that's not an option to everybody especially in the USA.
About your comment, It's the kind of thinking that don't make you any better. I don't do "this" because the others don't do "that"... I don't buy an hybrid car because I want to squeeze a few miles per hour of my car and my car as to be faster than my neighbor's car. I want my quad core 3 GHz always at full speed even that I don't use 5% of my 4 CPU's most of the time.
Good thinking both of you. You should be real proud...
How much self-hate does someone need to actually want to punish themselves to save the planet? I guess we'll soon know.
That's one of the most selfish comments I've seen in a while. It's because of people like you that we all live under shit, you selfish bastard.
What's a few watts, sure. Multiply that for the millions that use computers and you have your answer.
Remember, XP runs a lot slower than most of the preceeding operating systems- it just seems really fast now...after new hardware and a lot of updates.
It seems really fast right now???
It may be true if you have a fresh install of windows(any version), or perhaps you have a super-computer.
Windows speed deceases exponentially from the time of the last disk formatting.
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Is this comment for real?
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What's new about this? Embrace, extend and extinguish!!!