my body has through it's evolutionary predecessors had a lot of time to adjust to the stuff that grows on and walks on the fields. 'new' foodstuffs introduced without very rigid testing procedures which will cost lots of $ and will take lots of time from secretive corporations have the potential to do a great deal of harm.
Being educated not only implies that you are for progress, it also implies that you recognize when to be cautious and what you can do to assess the risks that others are exposing you to.
Unhealthy biological foods are a risk, badly engineered foods pose a possible much larger risk and those risks need to be weighed carefully. If the companies that feed you this (chips factory does not want to be named ?? why not, it's progress, so it's good right ?) stuff do not want to come clean about it then my immediate question is what are they hiding and what is the long term effect of this stuff in quantity.
In lab tests it has more or less been demonstrated that anything in large enough quantities will give you cancer, be it peanut butter or radioactive milk. (yes, all milk is very slightly radioactive), so that apparently is just a question of dosage.
The questions with new stuff are very simple:
- what goes in it ? - how was it tested ?
(preferably a double-blind test like used on new medication) - and assuming it was tested can we please see the results ? - what are the upsides (other than some marginal expense savings on the part of the
operator of a restaurant or factory), is it healthier than whatever it replaces ? - what are the downsides short term and long term ?
(think of allergic reactions and such for short term and cancer & the like long term)
Companies that mess with staple foods behind closed doors bear close watching.
Think about it, if McD would adopt this stuff and it turned out that there is this small problem that 10 years down the line you drop dead then we're going to have a little problem. I concede that's an extreme example but if they won't even tell you who is using it then it gets a little harder to believe they're upfront about the rest.
because the long term effects of synthetic food are not clear and because the companies promoting the stuff are - how to say this diplomatically - less than forthcoming with the downsides, side effects and seem not to understand the meaning of the word 'disclosure'.
I'm all for progress, but food is delicate, mistakes have often serious and sometimes fatal effects. It doesn't take a lot of imagination to see that in todays environment a short term financial gain for a corporation will outweigh a long term health risk. Until that trend reverses I'm all for caution.
windows will continue to be 'relevant' as long as it comes pre-installed on many machines and lots of businesses demand their employees use it on a day-to-day basis. Once that hold is broken - or OSX is shipped as a software only product, another option - there will be a chance for third parties.
Until then windows - no matter how broken - is here to stay. First mover advantage indeed.
check some of my other posts 'mod' history to see why I would write that, I'm sick and tired of people using moderation to express their disagreement with what they read.
point taken though, you're right and I should not let my frustration shine through so clearly.
I highly doubt there's malice on the part of HP involved. It's just that the time between manufacturing and hitting the consumers home is more than long enough to go through several software updates. The real problem is that early XP had no default firewall 'on' out of the box, in order to upgrade it you have to be online (sometimes for quite a while) to download security updates, or alternatively you have to know what you're doing.
But honestly, I highly doubt many of the buyers of consumer grade hardware have a clue, and frankly I don't think they should have, it should just work.
Another major issue is people that revert to their original 'rescue' or 'recover' cd while still having the network plugged in. That's another potential source of lots of trouble. Older compaqs and some Toshiba machines had a recovery partition on the HD or a CD which essentially restored the machine to off-factory condition. No handy 'you've registered your product so we'll send you an upgrade to your os in the mail' policy, that would cost $.
It's not my community (the Neighbours rather), but it seems there's more than just beer involved there according to the article above. It sounds like you need some confirmation before you're leaving your moms basement though;)
You'd be surprised at the time stuff can sit 'in channel'.
Also, I bought one of these puppies about 3 months ago and since I had planned to install Linux on it anyway I just let it sit there for a couple of hours to see how long it would take to get infected and within two hours it was happily sending spam. (I did pull the plug at that point).
I don't recall the version of XP that was on there, but it still surprised me how quickly it went.
the us is as much at war with terror as it is at war with drugs or cancer. it's a media thing, it's used to sell you stuff and take your $.
A declaration of war is another thing entirely, it's the - regrettable - act of a country that sees no diplomatic way out to resolve an immediate threat to its national security. Not an attempt at fleecing the coffers of the country by using magic invocations. Not a device for personal revenge while ignoring more pressing matters.
If the US was really at war there would be (at a minimum):
- a rationing of resources states side in order to
get the war over with as fast as possible
- no lack of resources for the fighting personel
- no talk of 'pulling out' in the midst of engagement
(that would otherwise be known as 'defeat')
- a *PLAN* for victory, and a clear definition of what it would
take to declare victory (such as a defined enemy that can capitulate)
With all these factors absent there is no war, except in some peoples heads maybe.
One of the elements of war we do seem to have is war crimes though. And lots of dead people - both sides - too, for that matter.
Mod me down, see if I care. If you can't stand the truth then use your modpoints but it won't make the truth go away any time soon. You can't really argue with facts.
If what you keep saying is true then the only thing the US can be conceivably at war with is Islam because that seems to be the common denominator amongst the victims.
The BBC is not exactly known for being beginners at IT, they're the people that brought a lot of us (including me) into the age of personal computing with their BBC Micro Computer.
The thing they've tried to do here is to accurately simulate what the average home user will do, and see what the consequences would be.
It's like a 17 year old nude virgin visiting the octoberfest and expecting to come away 'unscathed', I give you that much. But anybody that buys one of those HP internet ready pc's with XP pre-installed that goes home and plugs in his / her machine is doing the exact same thing.
The instructions even tell you to connect all that stuff *before* switching on in simple-to-use IKEA style no words diagrams. Don't be too quick to judge the beeb, they're pretty good at what they do.
I don't think the signature of the explosion matches that of a large amount of conventional explosives set off in a mineshaft. I'd expect a longer initial burst from that which would pretty much give the game away and make NK look like fools. I think they had a pretty good idea it was going to work too given the fact that they pre-announced it so widely.
comment of the month. I already posted in this thread so no chance of modding you up, but I did add you to my 'friends' list for that one.
Simply by defining the 'axis of evil' some countries got enough of a warning to start moving before it was too late. The six party talks were sabotaged as far as I can detect and provoked this chest beating performance by lil kim, the real question now is how far they are towards miniaturization and delivery.
Another real nightmare scenario would be a vessel with a goodie like this in the hold docked in SF or so.
Not all delivery needs to be done by air, not as 'efficient' (if there is such a term when it comes to mass murder), but I'm pretty sure it would get the job done.
a small - but significant - problem with this line of reasoning is that you assume that the people with their fingers on the respective buttons are sane. In the case of North Korea that's a definite NO, in the case of the US the jury is still out. Pakistan is on the edge, China is probably ok and England and France are probably too. Russia on the other hand is so fragmented that it has a hard time of keeping track of it's inventory.
Religious zeal or insanity, it doesn't really matter some people can't get to their version of the afterlife fast enough and they would not mind taking a few hundred thousand with them.
I'm getting a little tired of this, the US is NOT AT WAR, it takes an act of concress to declare a war and such an act did not take place.
There's a whole bunch of acting (pun intended) going on that would like to make you believe otherwise.
The really interesting question is if the Democrats should they (and diebold willing) win the elections: "are they going to impeach or do they have too much egg on their faces ?"
second that. So for me the solution is simple, I speak my mind and to hell with the consequences, if you think I'm not politically correct I'll wear that as a badge of honour. I've spent a good bit of time in Canada and it's simply amazing how far apart peoples mindsets are from their words. It's ok to ACT like a racist or a bigot but it's not ok to speak like one. Go figure...
IANALA (I am *not* a language analyst) but I'm pretty sure that since as long as language exists those who have the ability to make up new words or to grasp the meaning of a new word without a lot of explanation belonged to the smarter segment of the population. The faster our development becomes the more important these skills are. We've now reached a point in time where it won't be long before the rate of development has become so great that it is possible for two people to no longer be able to communicate with each other even though they share a common language due to this vocabulary development gap.
If you don't believe that try to decipher an SMS message sent by one 13 year old to another:)
And PCMCIA was a pretty good example, but some of the stuff I see here on/. causes me to reach for the nearest search engine to figure out what on earth they mean.
this place could easily be nicknamed buzzword central:)
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that's a good one, as usualy I had not thought outside of my own sensory experiences.
It's incredibly hard to even try to imagine what it is like to miss a sense, I tried walking around blindfolded for a day and I never made it past the 10 minute mark (and with a really nice bruise to show for my efforts).
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I read tfa but for the life of me I can't come up with a useful application of this technology. Are there any samples of use out there ? Anybody used this ?
so, go solo. If you're any good you should not have a problem to contract.
worked for me:)
fwiw if I compare the guts of XP with the elegance of unix, plan9 or qnx I still stand by that it plain sucks. API's all over the place, layer upon layer of different ways of doing the same things, every hardware device it's own way of being talked to, security tacked on as an afterthought, applications reaching all the way in to the core os.
Not very pretty to put it mildly.
If you feel like qualitatively defending your flamebait call then go ahead, I'm all ears, explain in less than say 500 words the true beauty and elegance of MS windows, any version will do.
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my body has through it's evolutionary predecessors had a lot of time to adjust to the stuff that grows on and walks on the fields. 'new' foodstuffs introduced without very rigid testing procedures which will cost lots of $ and will take lots of time from secretive corporations have the potential to do a great deal of harm.
Being educated not only implies that you are for progress, it also implies that you recognize when to be cautious and what you can do to assess the risks that others are exposing you to.
Unhealthy biological foods are a risk, badly engineered foods pose a possible much larger risk and those risks need to be weighed carefully. If the companies that feed you this (chips factory does not want to be named ?? why not, it's progress, so it's good right ?) stuff do not want to come clean about it then my immediate question is what are they hiding and what is the long term effect of this stuff in quantity.
In lab tests it has more or less been demonstrated that anything in large enough quantities will give you cancer, be it peanut butter or radioactive milk. (yes, all milk is very slightly radioactive), so that apparently is just a question of dosage.
The questions with new stuff are very simple:
- what goes in it ?
- how was it tested ?
(preferably a double-blind test like used on new medication)
- and assuming it was tested can we please see the results ?
- what are the upsides (other than some marginal expense savings on the part of the
operator of a restaurant or factory), is it healthier than whatever it replaces ?
- what are the downsides short term and long term ?
(think of allergic reactions and such for short term and cancer & the like long term)
Companies that mess with staple foods behind closed doors bear close watching.
Think about it, if McD would adopt this stuff and it turned out that there is this
small problem that 10 years down the line you drop dead then we're going to have
a little problem. I concede that's an extreme example but if they won't even tell
you who is using it then it gets a little harder to believe they're upfront about
the rest.
because the long term effects of synthetic food are not clear and because the companies promoting the stuff are - how to say this diplomatically - less than forthcoming with the downsides, side effects and seem not to understand the meaning of the word 'disclosure'.
I'm all for progress, but food is delicate, mistakes have often serious and sometimes fatal effects. It doesn't take a lot of imagination to see that in todays environment a short term financial gain for a corporation will outweigh a long term health risk. Until that trend reverses I'm all for caution.
I'll take my food from the field any day over from the factory, thank you very much.
I'm all for engineering but when it comes to what I eat I'm very oldfashioned. No reconstituted, GM, reprocessed anything.
windows will continue to be 'relevant' as long as it comes pre-installed on many machines and lots of businesses demand their employees use it on a day-to-day basis. Once that hold is broken - or OSX is shipped as a software only product, another option - there will be a chance for third parties.
Until then windows - no matter how broken - is here to stay. First mover advantage indeed.
does this mean that google is now officially going down the tubes ?
that didn't take very long then. There must be much less evil ways to spend 1.6 billion dollars...
check some of my other posts 'mod' history to see why I would write that, I'm sick and tired of people using moderation to express their disagreement with what they read.
point taken though, you're right and I should not let my frustration shine through so clearly.
the general impression (and rightly so) is that it should not take a specialist to do something so dumb as to plug in a computer.
And for the record, yes, I did build a house and I'm not an expert.
I highly doubt there's malice on the part of HP involved. It's just that the time between manufacturing and hitting the consumers home is more than long enough to go through several software updates. The real problem is that early XP had no default firewall 'on' out of the box, in order to upgrade it you have to be online (sometimes for quite a while) to download security updates, or alternatively you have to know what you're doing.
But honestly, I highly doubt many of the buyers of consumer grade hardware have a clue, and frankly I don't think they should have, it should just work.
Another major issue is people that revert to their original 'rescue' or 'recover' cd while still having the network plugged in. That's another potential source of lots of trouble. Older compaqs and some Toshiba machines had a recovery partition on the HD or a CD which essentially restored the machine to off-factory condition. No handy 'you've registered your product so we'll send you an upgrade to your os in the mail' policy, that would cost $.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/09/22/10640829 36480.html?from=storyrhs
;)
It's not my community (the Neighbours rather), but it seems there's more than just beer involved there according to the article above. It sounds like you need some confirmation before you're leaving your moms basement though
You'd be surprised at the time stuff can sit 'in channel'.
Also, I bought one of these puppies about 3 months ago and since I had planned to install Linux on it anyway I just let it sit there for a couple of hours to see how long it would take to get infected and within two hours it was happily sending spam. (I did pull the plug at that point).
I don't recall the version of XP that was on there, but it still surprised me how quickly it went.
the us is as much at war with terror as it is at war with drugs or cancer. it's a media thing, it's used to sell you stuff and take your $.
A declaration of war is another thing entirely, it's the - regrettable - act of a country that sees no diplomatic way out to resolve an immediate threat to its national security. Not an attempt at fleecing the coffers of the country by using magic invocations. Not a device for personal revenge
while ignoring more pressing matters.
If the US was really at war there would be (at a minimum):
- a rationing of resources states side in order to
get the war over with as fast as possible
- no lack of resources for the fighting personel
- no talk of 'pulling out' in the midst of engagement
(that would otherwise be known as 'defeat')
- a *PLAN* for victory, and a clear definition of what it would
take to declare victory (such as a defined enemy that can capitulate)
With all these factors absent there is no war, except in some peoples heads maybe.
One of the elements of war we do seem to have is war crimes though. And lots of
dead people - both sides - too, for that matter.
Mod me down, see if I care. If you can't stand the truth then use your modpoints
but it won't make the truth go away any time soon. You can't really argue with facts.
If what you keep saying is true then the only thing the US can be conceivably at war with is Islam because that seems to be the common denominator amongst the victims.
installation procedures for RealOne on the BBC
I Wished all broadcasting corporations were as 'backwards' as the Beeb.
The BBC is not exactly known for being beginners at IT, they're the people that brought a lot of us (including me) into the age of personal computing with their BBC Micro Computer.
The thing they've tried to do here is to accurately simulate what the average home user will do, and see what the consequences would be.
It's like a 17 year old nude virgin visiting the octoberfest and expecting to come away 'unscathed', I give you that much. But anybody that buys one of those HP internet ready pc's with XP pre-installed that goes home and plugs in his / her machine is doing the exact same thing.
The instructions even tell you to connect all that stuff *before* switching on in simple-to-use IKEA style no words diagrams. Don't be too quick to judge the beeb, they're pretty good at what they do.
I don't think the signature of the explosion matches that of a large amount of conventional explosives set off in a mineshaft. I'd expect a longer initial burst from that which would pretty much give the game away and make NK look like fools. I think they had a pretty good idea it was going to work too given the fact that they pre-announced it so widely.
thank you...
comment of the month. I already posted in this thread so no chance of modding you up, but I did add you to my 'friends' list for that one.
Simply by defining the 'axis of evil' some countries got enough of a warning to start moving before it was too late. The six party talks were sabotaged as far as I can detect and provoked this chest beating performance by lil kim, the real question now is how far they are towards miniaturization and delivery.
Another real nightmare scenario would be a vessel with a goodie like this in the hold docked in SF or so.
Not all delivery needs to be done by air, not as 'efficient' (if there is such a term when it comes to mass murder), but I'm pretty sure it would get the job done.
the usual way to deal with things not fitting conventional definitions is by changing the definitiions.
for more info see 'immediate threat', 'moral values', 'connection', the verb 'to have' and several others that have currently slipped my mind.
in dutch 'stront' translates as 'shit'.
very appropriate I would say.
a small - but significant - problem with this line of reasoning is that you assume that the people with their fingers on the respective buttons are sane. In the case of North Korea that's a definite NO, in the case of the US the jury is still out. Pakistan is on the edge, China is probably ok and England and France are probably too. Russia on the other hand is so fragmented that it has a hard time of keeping track of it's inventory.
Religious zeal or insanity, it doesn't really matter some people can't get to their version of the afterlife fast enough and they would not mind taking a few hundred thousand with them.
I'm getting a little tired of this, the US is NOT AT WAR, it takes an act of concress to declare a war and such an act did not take place.
There's a whole bunch of acting (pun intended) going on that would like to make you believe otherwise.
The really interesting question is if the Democrats should they (and diebold willing) win the elections: "are they going to impeach or do they have too much egg on their faces ?"
second that. So for me the solution is simple, I speak my mind and to hell with the consequences, if you think I'm not politically correct I'll wear that as a badge of honour. I've spent a good bit of time in Canada and it's simply amazing how far apart peoples mindsets are from their words. It's ok to ACT like a racist or a bigot but it's not ok to speak like one. Go figure...
I think I can see why you would want to make that comment anonymous :)
IANALA (I am *not* a language analyst) but I'm pretty sure that since as long as language exists those who have the ability to make up new words or to grasp the meaning of a new word without a lot of explanation belonged to the smarter segment of the population. The faster our development becomes the more important these skills are. We've now reached a point in time where it won't be long before the rate of development has become so great that it is possible for two people to no longer be able to communicate with each other even though they share a common language due to this vocabulary development gap.
:)
/. causes me to reach for the nearest search engine to figure out what on earth they mean.
:)
If you don't believe that try to decipher an SMS message sent by one 13 year old to another
And PCMCIA was a pretty good example, but some of the stuff I see here on
this place could easily be nicknamed buzzword central
that's a good one, as usualy I had not thought outside of my own sensory experiences.
It's incredibly hard to even try to imagine what it is like to miss a sense, I tried
walking around blindfolded for a day and I never made it past the 10 minute mark (and
with a really nice bruise to show for my efforts).
I read tfa but for the life of me I can't come up with a useful application of
this technology. Are there any samples of use out there ? Anybody used this ?
so, go solo. If you're any good you should not have a problem to contract.
:)
worked for me
fwiw if I compare the guts of XP with the elegance of unix, plan9 or qnx I still stand by that it plain sucks. API's all over the place, layer upon layer of different ways of doing the same things, every hardware device it's own way of being talked to, security tacked on as an afterthought, applications reaching all the way in to the core os.
Not very pretty to put it mildly.
If you feel like qualitatively defending your flamebait call then go ahead, I'm all ears, explain in less than say 500 words the true beauty and elegance of MS windows, any version will do.