That's why I built my latest little project. MP3's by the boatload, napster squared. with storage approaching $400 / TB why not copy *ALL* the music ?
MP3 is the standard, no matter what the big corps want you to believe. this mp3 file sharing system will merge two collections seamlessly and remove doubles, you can tag your files and if you have a band you can use this system to spread your music to your fans. It's just another CDN, but one that is based off KNOPPIX, so it comes with all the power of a full Linux distro, and gives you a single dedicated box to play and share your music on.
It's open source, and if you feel like hacking around with it be my guest (most of it is PHP, there is a little bit of C in there).
But I'm *especially* against patents of anything that you find in nature and I think that the general rule should be that if you can find a close analogy of any structure, device, process, binary sequence (genes) or creature in nature then you should not be able to patent it at all.
That doesn't mean we should not be looking at nature for ideas and useful bits & pieces, it just means that when you do *discover* those that you are not able to go out and stick your name on it and bar everybody else from using the same without paying you, the original discoverer a royalty.
re-using something that already exists for another use is not an invention.
just try to have an absolutely original thought, and if you manage try to explain that thought without having to reference the last 4,000 years of shared culture that we have.
I love this quote: we stand on the shoulders of those that went before us. And I'd like to add to that that anything that you think you've invented because nature doesn't use it in that particular way is waiting out there to be discovered one day. (not in a literal sense, but more in a materials science sense, I don't expect a fish with a 600 MHz pIII to be caught any day soon (unless it is near a garbage dump...))
Even the wheel has a direct equivalent in nature....
(when it was thought for years that that was not the case)
and a certain kind of eel had us beat to the use of electricity by a few *million* years.
One more item on the list of the patent ghouls, no doubt.
We are mostly discoverers, much less inventors. Every now and then we come up (in large numbers) with stuff that nature has not yet thought of, but for the most part our 'inventions' are already part of nature.
I watched a movie called the corporation not so long ago, (it's free to download), and it really opened my eyes to how far we've drifted off from being 'good stewards' of the planet.
I'm happy that we are scanning nature for clues on how we can do our material science better but I fear that a few years down the line we'll see that dow chemicals now owns it...
well, they're trying some stuff (say the cell in the hague) but even if it is very serious it is dealt with in the only way that makes sense, through the police and the courts.
The military has nothing to do with.
Take a terrorist serious and he's already won...
think about that for a moment. Without all this media hype these jokers wouldn't stand a chance. And the media just *love* it, great ratings, all that breaking news.
I mean, seriously does anybody really feel any surprise at all when reading this ?
And if so what drug are you on...
Law enforcement agencies will abuse any law to get the maximum leverage that they can, it does not matter that the laws they use were not originally intended for the purpose they are being used for.
In NL we only recently got the obligation to carry ID, ostensibly to fight heavy criminals that would not ID themselves. Of course now you can get arrested a lot easier for say being a jogger and having no ID on you.
And that has already happened to a lot of people, but not to the so called heavy criminals.
if you want to stop this trend I'm afraid it will take a lot more than a vote in a ballot box at some point.
The 'coin' in open source very often is the recognition, similar to the recognition academics get for their work.
There was a movement called 'ego-less' programming about two decades ago that tried to get people to not be so defensive about their mistakes, quite possibly you've hit the nail quite accurately about *2* things that may be fundamental problems with OSS.
the first is the inability of certain developers to change tack because they become so attached to 'their' solution that they'll make it live way past its usefulness (the Linus / Tanenbaum microkernel discussion comes to mind), the second that by being very visible OSS developers can become lightning rods for corporations that feel threatened by the products of those developers.
I've been using samba for the last 12 years in various guises, if there ever was a problem then it usually was that I did not upgrade the software often enough because *it just works*.
That in my eyes is the best feature any software package can have, that it is so reliable you forget you have it.
As for it being 'amateur' software, amateur to me spells motivation and the quality level of the samba software reflects that dedication quite well.
Better than the 9-5 code monkeys products by a long shot most of the time.
Never mind waiting for an ok on a patent license, I waited for over a year for Fraunhofer/Thomson to get of their asses but unless you are hitachi or so they will simply ignore you.
I mean to that totally static solid state 10 ns 100G storage device...
It's a pity that we have to go through all the intermediary stages before getting to the 'real thing', but for now we'll just have to settle for the next step.
Think of it like this: the Netherlands has been raping and pillaging the world at large for hundreds of years and it's time to pay the ferryman.
No, we do not have a 'god given right' to our riches, and nobody ever became less from sharing their wealth.
Verdonk and her infantile policies have done our society more damage than many years of 'bad' immigrants have done, and on top of that she has discouraged many 'good' emigrants from coming here.
In the 60's and 70's the Dutch bootstrapped this immigration wave themselves by inviting guest workers from Turkey, Marocco and elsewhere to come to our country to do our 'dirty work'. This because a fairly lazy generation of dutch people felt that they were too good to do this work, they'd rather sit back and have their 'uitkering' (welfare).
Don't blame the 'foreigners', they took the chances we gave them with both hands and are to date for the most part pretty hard working people. Sure there are exceptions, but it would surprise me if for every 'bad' foreigner I could not find 2 'bad' dutchmen. And those are the ones that vote for Verdonk.
see, and that may have been part of the cause of Dutch people not liking Americans much.
I'm dutch.
I have plenty of American friends, but they don't seem to feel the need to remind me that I would be speaking German if not for 'them' (they had nothing to do with it, it was a long time ago, probably before you or I were born).
Having said that I would agree with the fact that the Dutch nation is on the wrong path with regards to immigration, it seems as if the fear factor is taking over. Harassment of Polish people and other former east block dwellers is common, immigration and racism are closely coupled and the IND is bordering on the gestapo in terms of how they do their jobs, for which - as a Dutch person - I apologize to all people from countries where these things are done in a more humane way.
I have lived in plenty of places and I regret to admit that our country is very bad in this respect.
same here, I'm about to go on a trip and I could have made a stop in the US but decided against that after several very bad experiences. Good luck with your economy that way.
yes, speaking off illegal immigrants, how many people are NOT descended from the Native Indians on one way or another ? I guess that all of them class as illegal immigrants.
But I can tell you one thing, if I were Hans Reiser, possibly wrongfully arrested and I came back to/. to read some of the shit below after being released from jail it would be a cold day in hell before you'd get another line of code out of me.
unbelievable.
Have a heart. Let's hope she's only missing, not dead, and that if she is dead Hans didn't do it so his kids will have at least one parent to share the loss with, rather than one to miss and one to learn to hate.
Well, for starters I'm dutch and not planning to visit the US any time soon, so unless the CIA feels like 'rendering' me I don't think that will go far.
Also these pigs really only reap what they sow, redirecting spam they cause to their server seems to be poetic justice to me. If they don't want it to happen all they have to do is make sure that spamhaus continues to do it's good work.
I don't care if the judge is incompetent, I don't care if the US thinks it's mighty arm stretches as far as my front door, I just want the legal scumbags that take on clients like this to realise that they too are vulnerable in ways they may not have foreseen.
It would be too much if everybody on the planet with a.com,.net or.org would suddenly have to comply with American law or have their domain yanked, and if these jerks cause that then I'll be sure to make their lives as miserable as can be.
For the longest time I had a speech recognition system sketched out on a whiteboard in my office, maybe once I get done with all my current projects (ww.com, daz.com and a bunch of smaller stuff) I'll restart it, it's one of the things I really don't like about computers, the fact that our whole 'navigation' experience and knowledge seems to revolve around large surfaced displays. If we could somehow get rid of that I think computers would be *far* more useful.
I can see how they would blacklist themselves, but removal could be a bit tricky.
I've just sent the following email to the lawyers for e360:
to: amertes@synergylawgroup.com from: j@ww.com
Hello there,
It seems you are the people responsible for leading the charge on 'spamhaus' on behalf of your customer, 'e360'.
if you cause spamhause.org to no longer function then you can rest assured I'll do my best to forward each and every spam message received on my servers to yours.
fair warning
It's one thing to play clever lawyerly games, it's quite another to piss off just about everybody on the net on behalf of some lowlife.
the genetic material probably makes no difference at all, but possibly toxic byproducts would.
For instance if you eat something that was 'sick' like that rotting carcass that was thrown around elsewhere in this discussion you could get sick yourself. Creuzfelt-Jacobs (sp?) is a disease that somehow manages to jump from species to species by simply consuming the diseased organism.
There are lots of subtle pathways for pathogens into our bodies and it would not surprise me one bit if GM engineered food or artificially (as in not through hybridization) modified foods would have the potential to cause us long term harm.
second that one, while we're at it let's produce ALL the goods that we consume within 100 miles from the point of consumption. That should solve quite a few problems in one go:
- pollution happens near consumption, consumers will choose for less polluting products - recycling becomes easier - massive cuts in transportation - should create quite a few local jobs - well end the abuse of children put to work in 'low wage' countries
(make that 'bad working conditions') - will hopefully increase the quality of the products
Once we run out of oil point (3) above will hopefully drive the other ones, not because we'll have much choice anymore, but at some pricepoint per barrel of oil it will no longer be feasible to ship much of anything around the globe.
Thank you for pointing out this major flaw in my language skills. For your information, English is not my first language and I think I'm doing a better job of it then you probably would of mine.
But then again I may be mistaken. En als je dit wel kunt lezen als je niets te zeggen hebt kun je beter je mond houden. Und wenn du vielleicht Deutsch bist werde es mir freuen wenn du deine Klappe zu halt. Zlotny uste mas ale nie jestesz bardzo mondre... Et en Francais je veux te dire fermez ta geule si tu n'as pas aucun a contribuer.
I love it when anonymous cowards turn grammar teachers.
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That's why I built my latest little project. MP3's by the boatload, napster
squared. with storage approaching $400 / TB why not copy *ALL* the music ?
MP3 is the standard, no matter what the big corps want you to believe.
this mp3 file sharing system will merge two collections seamlessly
and remove doubles, you can tag your files and if you have a band you can
use this system to spread your music to your fans. It's just another CDN,
but one that is based off KNOPPIX, so it comes with all the power of a
full Linux distro, and gives you a single dedicated box to play and share
your music on.
It's open source, and if you feel like hacking around with it be my guest
(most of it is PHP, there is a little bit of C in there).
if you're trying to link me with creationism you're so far off base it's not even funny.
4 852.700
as for the wheel reference, there you go:
http://www.newscientist.com/backpage.ns?id=mg1852
I'll make it simple:
I'm against patents.
of any kind.
But I'm *especially* against patents of anything that you find in nature and
I think that the general rule should be that if you can find a close analogy
of any structure, device, process, binary sequence (genes) or creature in
nature then you should not be able to patent it at all.
That doesn't mean we should not be looking at nature for ideas and useful
bits & pieces, it just means that when you do *discover* those that you are
not able to go out and stick your name on it and bar everybody else from
using the same without paying you, the original discoverer a royalty.
people quibbling on slashdot ? that's unpossible.
re-using something that already exists for another use is not an invention.
just try to have an absolutely original thought, and if you manage try to explain that
thought without having to reference the last 4,000 years of shared culture that we have.
I love this quote: we stand on the shoulders of those that went before us. And I'd like
to add to that that anything that you think you've invented because nature doesn't
use it in that particular way is waiting out there to be discovered one day. (not
in a literal sense, but more in a materials science sense, I don't expect a fish
with a 600 MHz pIII to be caught any day soon (unless it is near a garbage dump...))
Even the wheel has a direct equivalent in nature....
(when it was thought for years that that was not the case)
and a certain kind of eel had us beat to the use of electricity by a few *million* years.
One more item on the list of the patent ghouls, no doubt.
We are mostly discoverers, much less inventors. Every now and then we come up (in large numbers)
with stuff that nature has not yet thought of, but for the most part our 'inventions' are already
part of nature.
I watched a movie called the corporation not so long ago, (it's free to download), and it really
opened my eyes to how far we've drifted off from being 'good stewards' of the planet.
I'm happy that we are scanning nature for clues on how we can do our material science better
but I fear that a few years down the line we'll see that dow chemicals now owns it...
well, they're trying some stuff (say the cell in the hague) but even if it is very serious
it is dealt with in the only way that makes sense, through the police and the courts.
The military has nothing to do with.
Take a terrorist serious and he's already won...
think about that for a moment. Without all this media hype these jokers wouldn't stand a
chance. And the media just *love* it, great ratings, all that breaking news.
yes, sorry, I could have been more clear there.
. ecee ce
it's called 'legitimatieplicht'...
http://www.tctubantia.nl/binnenland/article433268
http://www.pzc.nl/zeeland/algemeen/article794651.
in case you read dutch...
I mean, seriously does anybody really feel any surprise at all when reading this ?
...
And if so what drug are you on
Law enforcement agencies will abuse any law to get the maximum leverage that they
can, it does not matter that the laws they use were not originally intended for
the purpose they are being used for.
In NL we only recently got the obligation to carry ID, ostensibly to fight heavy
criminals that would not ID themselves. Of course now you can get arrested a
lot easier for say being a jogger and having no ID on you.
And that has already happened to a lot of people, but not to the so called heavy
criminals.
if you want to stop this trend I'm afraid it will take a lot more than a vote in
a ballot box at some point.
if that is still possible...
that's actually a really good point.
The 'coin' in open source very often is the recognition, similar to the recognition
academics get for their work.
There was a movement called 'ego-less' programming about two decades ago that tried
to get people to not be so defensive about their mistakes, quite possibly you've hit
the nail quite accurately about *2* things that may be fundamental problems with OSS.
the first is the inability of certain developers to change tack because they become
so attached to 'their' solution that they'll make it live way past its usefulness
(the Linus / Tanenbaum microkernel discussion comes to mind), the second that by being
very visible OSS developers can become lightning rods for corporations that feel
threatened by the products of those developers.
Anonymous source, bring it on !
I've been using samba for the last 12 years in various guises, if there ever was a problem then
it usually was that I did not upgrade the software often enough because *it just works*.
That in my eyes is the best feature any software package can have, that it is so reliable
you forget you have it.
As for it being 'amateur' software, amateur to me spells motivation and the quality level
of the samba software reflects that dedication quite well.
Better than the 9-5 code monkeys products by a long shot most of the time.
OSS is the future, better believe it.
and reap the PR bonanza if you should get sued.
Never mind waiting for an ok on a patent license, I waited for over a year for
Fraunhofer/Thomson to get of their asses but unless you are hitachi or so they
will simply ignore you.
closer but not quite there yet.
I mean to that totally static solid state 10 ns 100G storage device...
It's a pity that we have to go through all the intermediary stages before getting
to the 'real thing', but for now we'll just have to settle for the next step.
Anybody remember bubble memory ?
yes, these things happen when people (tourists included) think the only way such a thing can stop is by waiting for the police to act.
What did *YOU* do ?
scared of foreigners ? America is full of them :)
Think of it like this: the Netherlands has been raping and pillaging the world at large for hundreds of years and it's time to pay the ferryman.
No, we do not have a 'god given right' to our riches, and nobody ever became less from sharing their wealth.
Verdonk and her infantile policies have done our society more damage than many years of 'bad' immigrants have done, and on top of that she has discouraged many 'good' emigrants from coming here.
In the 60's and 70's the Dutch bootstrapped this immigration wave themselves by inviting guest workers from Turkey, Marocco and elsewhere to come to our country to do our 'dirty work'. This because a fairly lazy generation of dutch people felt that they were too good to do this work, they'd rather sit back and have their 'uitkering' (welfare).
Don't blame the 'foreigners', they took the chances we gave them with both hands and are to date for the most part pretty hard working people. Sure there are exceptions, but it would surprise me if for every 'bad' foreigner I could not find 2 'bad' dutchmen. And those are the ones that vote for Verdonk.
see, and that may have been part of the cause of Dutch people not liking Americans much.
I'm dutch.
I have plenty of American friends, but they don't seem to feel the need to remind me that I would be speaking German if not for 'them' (they had nothing to do with it, it was a long time ago, probably before you or I were born).
Having said that I would agree with the fact that the Dutch nation is on the wrong path with regards to immigration, it seems as if the fear factor is taking over. Harassment of Polish people and other former east block dwellers is common, immigration and racism are closely coupled and the IND is bordering on the gestapo in terms of how they do their jobs, for which - as a Dutch person - I apologize to all people from countries where these things are done in a more humane way.
I have lived in plenty of places and I regret to admit that our country is very bad in this respect.
same here, I'm about to go on a trip and I could have made a stop in the US but decided against that after several very bad experiences. Good luck with your economy that way.
yes, speaking off illegal immigrants, how many people are NOT descended from the Native Indians on one way or another ? I guess that all of them class as illegal immigrants.
yes, yes jokes are easy.
/. to read some of the shit below after being released from jail it would be a cold day in hell before you'd get another line of code out of me.
But I can tell you one thing, if I were Hans Reiser, possibly wrongfully arrested and I came back to
unbelievable.
Have a heart. Let's hope she's only missing, not dead, and that if she is dead Hans didn't do it so his kids will have at least one parent to share the loss with, rather than one to miss and one to learn to hate.
Well, for starters I'm dutch and not planning to visit the US any time soon, so unless the CIA feels like 'rendering' me I don't think that will go far.
.com, .net or .org would suddenly have to comply with American law or have their domain yanked, and if these jerks cause that then I'll be sure to make their lives as miserable as can be.
Also these pigs really only reap what they sow, redirecting spam they cause to their server seems to be poetic justice to me. If they don't want it to happen all they have to do is make sure that spamhaus continues to do it's good work.
I don't care if the judge is incompetent, I don't care if the US thinks it's mighty arm stretches as far as my front door, I just want the legal scumbags that take on clients like this to realise that they too are vulnerable in ways they may not have foreseen.
It would be too much if everybody on the planet with a
We'll see who rusts first.
ok, glad to hear that.
For the longest time I had a speech recognition system sketched out on a whiteboard in
my office, maybe once I get done with all my current projects (ww.com, daz.com and a bunch
of smaller stuff) I'll restart it, it's one of the things I really don't like about
computers, the fact that our whole 'navigation' experience and knowledge seems to
revolve around large surfaced displays. If we could somehow get rid of that I think
computers would be *far* more useful.
best regards, & congratulations on your recovery.
Jacques.
holy crap, you ok now ?
I can see how they would blacklist themselves, but removal could be a bit tricky.
I've just sent the following email to the lawyers for e360:
to: amertes@synergylawgroup.com
from: j@ww.com
Hello there,
It seems you are the people responsible for leading the charge on 'spamhaus' on behalf
of your customer, 'e360'.
if you cause spamhause.org to no longer function then you can rest assured I'll do my best to forward each and every spam message received on my servers to yours.
fair warning
It's one thing to play clever lawyerly games, it's quite another to
piss off just about everybody on the net on behalf of some lowlife.
Jacques Mattheij
CEO ww.com
the genetic material probably makes no difference at all, but possibly toxic byproducts would.
For instance if you eat something that was 'sick' like that rotting carcass that was thrown around elsewhere in this discussion you could get sick yourself. Creuzfelt-Jacobs (sp?) is a disease that somehow manages to jump from species to species by simply consuming the diseased organism.
There are lots of subtle pathways for pathogens into our bodies and it would not surprise me one bit if GM engineered food or artificially (as in not through hybridization) modified foods would have the potential to cause us long term harm.
hehe, and that's your idea of radical :)
second that one, while we're at it let's produce ALL the goods that we consume within 100 miles from the point of consumption. That should solve quite a few problems in one go:
- pollution happens near consumption, consumers will choose for less polluting products
- recycling becomes easier
- massive cuts in transportation
- should create quite a few local jobs
- well end the abuse of children put to work in 'low wage' countries
(make that 'bad working conditions')
- will hopefully increase the quality of the products
Once we run out of oil point (3) above will hopefully drive the other ones, not
because we'll have much choice anymore, but at some pricepoint per barrel of
oil it will no longer be feasible to ship much of anything around the globe.
Thank you for pointing out this major flaw in my language skills. For your information, English is not my first language and I think I'm doing a better job of it then you probably would of mine.
But then again I may be mistaken. En als je dit wel kunt lezen als je niets te zeggen hebt kun je beter je mond houden. Und wenn du vielleicht Deutsch bist werde es mir freuen wenn du deine Klappe zu halt. Zlotny uste mas ale nie jestesz bardzo mondre... Et en Francais je veux te dire fermez ta geule si tu n'as pas aucun a contribuer.
I love it when anonymous cowards turn grammar teachers.