FaceBook is Stasi 2.0 - Stasi being the acronym for the former Eastern Geman "Staatssicherheit" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...// The smart thing with FaceBook is: you don't have to pressure people into telling who their friends are, who they meet, what they read, what they think, and so on. People provide the data by theselves.
Don't encourage the endangering of other childrens health through a known problem (measels) because a liar (many liars in fact) tricked you into blaming the vaccinations.
Make no mistake: I am on no anti vaccination crusade. I never heard of this doctor (Wakefield) prior to today. I'm a lurker here and I just droped a few words. Take it for what it is: a testimony. I am not here to convince anyone. -- My personal *feeling*, so far, is that nothing gives a kid autism (it is already in him/her, from even before birth), BUT certain things help developping autistic misbehaviors (more or less badly) and vaccines are one of them. Again, I am no scientist - what I write is just a *feeling*, fed by what I understand from doctors' explanations.
I don't know about that -- I'm NOT trying to prove my point or to score a point here. All I intend to do is to deliver a short testimony. I notice my initial comment was labeled as "Funny" (see: http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3999673&cid=44349333). Different people have different sense of "fun".
I know as a fact there was a "before" and an "after" in the life of our son -- he was an apt big baby till he was 26 monthes. Then he got this compulsory vaccination (we're French) and he was 'elsewhere' for a few days. To make it short, my son is now 8.5 years old and he's a non verbal autist.
Just because Twitter has a presence in France doesn't mean France has the ability to enforce its laws on a company that's American owned - whether those French laws are fair or not don't play a role here - it's a matter of who is ruling and who isn't - http://www.societe.com/societe/twitter-france-sas-789305596.html
It does. See: http://www.societe.com/societe/twitter-france-sas-789305596.html but all that is irrelevant. We're talking American interests versus other interests. Juridication and moral issues don't play a role here. It's about who can impose his views and who can't.
Good. Now... Google is a business. They live from selling a product. And not, the product is NOT their search engine. The product they're seeling is their audience. When you sit in front of your computer, YOU are the product, since Google is selling your presence to advertisers. One way or another: google.fr can't afford to loose Oranges customers.
We're talking Google seeling ads to French corporations -- those ads appear on French websites and they are seen by French customers. Google made some 2 billions euros in France last year (that's about 2.6 billions dollars) and the controvesry is the government says Google paid 5 millions euros taxes -- that's just 0.25%. Google says they operate from Irland so they pay taxes there (in Ireland - where their offices are) on the money thay gather from their French activities.
Now, you can replace 'France' with 'Germany' or with practicaly every European country.
Free decided to block Google ads automatically for all its customers in retaliation.
More precisely: they installed some "adblock" filter as an opt-out service. Then they canged it and they made it an opt-in service. One way or another it's the same idea: the customers of Free (I am one of them) now decide if they want to get Google ads - or not.
As a French customre: I use Youtube (not a lot) but the day they charge I will use their French equivalent which goes by the name of DalilyMotion. Wikipedia says: +Dailymotion is the world's second largest video-sharing website+
You write that "Google should just ignore them" and you ask "What will the telecom do?" -- The ISP do not block Google, of course, they just make some of their services less available. One good example of that is Youtube. Here in France Youtube doesn't work very well with my ISP, because of the size of the pipe between Youtube and that ISP. Everybody agrees both sides should build a bigger pipe, but they disagree about who should pay for that pipe.
If you're thinking as google.com you can just ignore the French ISPs, the French market and the French as a whole if they don't play by your rules. But if you're google.fr you have to find a compromise.
The point is some companies have an income in France even thought they have no offices in France. Google for instance sells ads for the French market but they sell it from abroad. Then they say google.fr is an Irish company and they won't pay their taxes in France.
They USED to be a monopoly - that was one generation ago, and internet did not exist back then (at least not for 99.999% of us). Now, they still have a significant share of the market as their share is like 43% of the internet customers.
I am French -- My ISP is FREE (that's their name) and I pay 36 euros a month. I get all you mentioned above PLUS they sent me a SIM card that provides two hours a month of voice (including call to 40+ foreign countries) and unlimited SMS, also, I can access the net throught that SIM card using wifi... wherever an open (unlocked) wifi net is caught.
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Does this qualify as cannibalism?
FaceBook is Stasi 2.0 - Stasi being the acronym for the former Eastern Geman "Staatssicherheit" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... // The smart thing with FaceBook is: you don't have to pressure people into telling who their friends are, who they meet, what they read, what they think, and so on. People provide the data by theselves.
Don't encourage the endangering of other childrens health through a known problem (measels) because a liar (many liars in fact) tricked you into blaming the vaccinations.
Make no mistake: I am on no anti vaccination crusade. I never heard of this doctor (Wakefield) prior to today. I'm a lurker here and I just droped a few words. Take it for what it is: a testimony. I am not here to convince anyone. -- My personal *feeling*, so far, is that nothing gives a kid autism (it is already in him/her, from even before birth), BUT certain things help developping autistic misbehaviors (more or less badly) and vaccines are one of them. Again, I am no scientist - what I write is just a *feeling*, fed by what I understand from doctors' explanations.
I don't know about that -- I'm NOT trying to prove my point or to score a point here. All I intend to do is to deliver a short testimony. I notice my initial comment was labeled as "Funny" (see: http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3999673&cid=44349333). Different people have different sense of "fun".
You say "no kidding" but I understand this is exactly what you're doing here. Sorry, but I'll skip.
I know as a fact there was a "before" and an "after" in the life of our son -- he was an apt big baby till he was 26 monthes. Then he got this compulsory vaccination (we're French) and he was 'elsewhere' for a few days. To make it short, my son is now 8.5 years old and he's a non verbal autist.
Just because Twitter has a presence in France doesn't mean France has the ability to enforce its laws on a company that's American owned - whether those French laws are fair or not don't play a role here - it's a matter of who is ruling and who isn't - http://www.societe.com/societe/twitter-france-sas-789305596.html
...Twitter France (if it exists)...
It does. See: http://www.societe.com/societe/twitter-france-sas-789305596.html but all that is irrelevant. We're talking American interests versus other interests. Juridication and moral issues don't play a role here. It's about who can impose his views and who can't.
Good. Now... Google is a business. They live from selling a product. And not, the product is NOT their search engine. The product they're seeling is their audience. When you sit in front of your computer, YOU are the product, since Google is selling your presence to advertisers. One way or another: google.fr can't afford to loose Oranges customers.
We're talking Google seeling ads to French corporations -- those ads appear on French websites and they are seen by French customers. Google made some 2 billions euros in France last year (that's about 2.6 billions dollars) and the controvesry is the government says Google paid 5 millions euros taxes -- that's just 0.25%. Google says they operate from Irland so they pay taxes there (in Ireland - where their offices are) on the money thay gather from their French activities. Now, you can replace 'France' with 'Germany' or with practicaly every European country.
Free decided to block Google ads automatically for all its customers in retaliation.
More precisely: they installed some "adblock" filter as an opt-out service. Then they canged it and they made it an opt-in service. One way or another it's the same idea: the customers of Free (I am one of them) now decide if they want to get Google ads - or not.
If I were Google, I'd prefer to pull the plug on all of France...
If you're google.com you can do that and you won't quite notice. But if you're google.fr ... you want to think twice before you do that.
As a French customre: I use Youtube (not a lot) but the day they charge I will use their French equivalent which goes by the name of DalilyMotion. Wikipedia says: +Dailymotion is the world's second largest video-sharing website+
You write that "Google should just ignore them" and you ask "What will the telecom do?" -- The ISP do not block Google, of course, they just make some of their services less available. One good example of that is Youtube. Here in France Youtube doesn't work very well with my ISP, because of the size of the pipe between Youtube and that ISP. Everybody agrees both sides should build a bigger pipe, but they disagree about who should pay for that pipe. If you're thinking as google.com you can just ignore the French ISPs, the French market and the French as a whole if they don't play by your rules. But if you're google.fr you have to find a compromise.
This is how it works here in France: customers pay a flat rate without limitation other than technical. They can use all the bandwidth there is.
The point is some companies have an income in France even thought they have no offices in France. Google for instance sells ads for the French market but they sell it from abroad. Then they say google.fr is an Irish company and they won't pay their taxes in France.
They USED to be a monopoly - that was one generation ago, and internet did not exist back then (at least not for 99.999% of us). Now, they still have a significant share of the market as their share is like 43% of the internet customers.
I am French -- My ISP is FREE (that's their name) and I pay 36 euros a month. I get all you mentioned above PLUS they sent me a SIM card that provides two hours a month of voice (including call to 40+ foreign countries) and unlimited SMS, also, I can access the net throught that SIM card using wifi... wherever an open (unlocked) wifi net is caught.