Intersting case, but if I (american born, european descent) had Osmama or one of his cronies co-sign my lease on an apartment, I'd be pretty damn sure that I'd get black bagged off to somewhere too. Perhaps this is more of a case of beware of what your friends do, rather than a "Oh look at the big bad government"
In the same vein Terry Nichols and his wife got blackbagged off for questioning after Oklahoma City.
Also I must point out, that if you're trying to prove a point, a link to wikipedia is useless.
But did it never occur to you that maybe the majority of Americans, and by proxy their representatives, want what Bush wants too and that's why everything he asks for goes through with little resistance?
You know, I'm afraid I'm going to have to call bullshit. I've not yet heard one single case of someone being "monitored" just because they spoke out against bush. On the other hand I just read (a few months back) an article in Rolling Stone that described bush as the worst president in the history of the united states, more recently than that I read an article in the same magazine about how Bush stole the election in Ohio, both HIGHLY controversial claims, both met with the same response from the public. It's not the government that's labelling people "pro-terrist" and making things difficult for them, it's Billy Bob and Sue.
I've also read nothing about Bush "ordering" congress to do anything, just accept that we have a very conservative government in power right now, and take steps in November to correct it.
As for the "errosion" of rights on foreign calls, they've been doing that for years with warrants. And can you point to one publicised case of a United States citizen being "hauled off" and "locked away for years"
If you can provide a shred of proof, I may believe you.
The Islamofascists have declared that they want Western Civilization wiped from the face of the earth. I take them at their word.
It may just be me, but never in any news report have I ever heard presented the rough size of these groups. For all I know Hezbollah is 50 crazies that want to launch rockets at Israel because 3000 years ago someone stole a goat. I think the biggest tactic our government employs is overstating the number of people that wish us harm. It's very easy to just assume that everyone hates you, and then you get the nice American response of "kill 'em all, let G-d sort them out."
But there have always been crazy people, they have always sought eachother out, and they have always caused harm. Why are we fighting this war with guns, when clearly it could be won with education. Cultural intolerance is a very familiar and very old beast, and genocide isn't the answer to what amounts to overblown racism. I imagine these "Islamofacist" groups really aren't any different than the "Hitler Youth" or "Shultzstaffel" of 60 years ago, and they are motivated by the same thing, they feel they're making a positive change in their condition. It can be argued differently I'm sure, but people that have success and are happy generally don't go around killing other people. Maybe if we fixed the problems of poverty and extreme wealth disparity (for example compare the Saudi royal family to the average working person in Saudi Arabia) then maybe we can all get along.
There are muslims that live and work and have families in America, so America can't possibly be so counter-Islam that having a society similar to ours (or even to the one that has developed in India in areas where America is outsourced) would be impossible because of their faith. A few radicals listening to a misinterpreted book, being told to do things by a misguided leader because they're poor and feel we're trying to destroy them and their way of life, because we support a nation that took the land they lived on.
I guess the point is don't just assume that they're doing all this because they hate you, they hate how they're living.
And people that hit themselves in the head with a hammer aren't automatically idiots, but they're most definately masochists. You have a choice, and you've chosen to go with ease of use and convenience at the expense of security and system reliability. There's nothing wrong with that, it's just not the choice that most/.ers would choose.
However, as you said not all windows users are automatically idiots, but verily you can see the foolishness in proclaiming the superiority of a flawed system, just because you have a '95%' solution? What happens when that unexpected 5 out of 100 attack occurs and your system gets fugged up? Is your data secure? Is it valuable enough that you take measures to protect it? Because if not, then truly you're asking for devastation using a system that isn't 100%.
I can attest to this being from Franklin City, VA. You could always tell the natives (people that had grown up drinking the water there) by the brown stains on their teeth.
Although it could have something to do with the paper mill there too. Who knows.
I'd hope you're a middle school or high school student, but I fear you may be a Ph.D candidate this being Slashdot. (Not that there is anything wrong with being 27 and still living with Mom and Dad.)
But slashdot can't be a social networking site, there aren't any giggly 14 year old girls here. (You know, the type that would have wanted to keep the OMG PONIEZ!!111!11!1! layout)
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I thought he actually crossed the Reed sea, a much shallower and at times completely dry area just south of the red sea.
Isn't the likeness of Mickey Mouse trademarked by disney and not copyrighted?
This is a brilliant idea, it's working great for the UK.
I take offense to that, it's only the middley westernly parts of the state that are intolerant (says the man represented by Jo Ann Davis)
:-(
Maybe you're right
Intersting case, but if I (american born, european descent) had Osmama or one of his cronies co-sign my lease on an apartment, I'd be pretty damn sure that I'd get black bagged off to somewhere too. Perhaps this is more of a case of beware of what your friends do, rather than a "Oh look at the big bad government"
In the same vein Terry Nichols and his wife got blackbagged off for questioning after Oklahoma City.
Also I must point out, that if you're trying to prove a point, a link to wikipedia is useless.
But did it never occur to you that maybe the majority of Americans, and by proxy their representatives, want what Bush wants too and that's why everything he asks for goes through with little resistance?
You know, I'm afraid I'm going to have to call bullshit. I've not yet heard one single case of someone being "monitored" just because they spoke out against bush. On the other hand I just read (a few months back) an article in Rolling Stone that described bush as the worst president in the history of the united states, more recently than that I read an article in the same magazine about how Bush stole the election in Ohio, both HIGHLY controversial claims, both met with the same response from the public. It's not the government that's labelling people "pro-terrist" and making things difficult for them, it's Billy Bob and Sue.
I've also read nothing about Bush "ordering" congress to do anything, just accept that we have a very conservative government in power right now, and take steps in November to correct it.
As for the "errosion" of rights on foreign calls, they've been doing that for years with warrants. And can you point to one publicised case of a United States citizen being "hauled off" and "locked away for years"
If you can provide a shred of proof, I may believe you.
It may just be me, but never in any news report have I ever heard presented the rough size of these groups. For all I know Hezbollah is 50 crazies that want to launch rockets at Israel because 3000 years ago someone stole a goat. I think the biggest tactic our government employs is overstating the number of people that wish us harm. It's very easy to just assume that everyone hates you, and then you get the nice American response of "kill 'em all, let G-d sort them out."
But there have always been crazy people, they have always sought eachother out, and they have always caused harm. Why are we fighting this war with guns, when clearly it could be won with education. Cultural intolerance is a very familiar and very old beast, and genocide isn't the answer to what amounts to overblown racism. I imagine these "Islamofacist" groups really aren't any different than the "Hitler Youth" or "Shultzstaffel" of 60 years ago, and they are motivated by the same thing, they feel they're making a positive change in their condition. It can be argued differently I'm sure, but people that have success and are happy generally don't go around killing other people. Maybe if we fixed the problems of poverty and extreme wealth disparity (for example compare the Saudi royal family to the average working person in Saudi Arabia) then maybe we can all get along.
There are muslims that live and work and have families in America, so America can't possibly be so counter-Islam that having a society similar to ours (or even to the one that has developed in India in areas where America is outsourced) would be impossible because of their faith. A few radicals listening to a misinterpreted book, being told to do things by a misguided leader because they're poor and feel we're trying to destroy them and their way of life, because we support a nation that took the land they lived on.
I guess the point is don't just assume that they're doing all this because they hate you, they hate how they're living.
I hear Greenland is pretty barren, don't think you'd have to worry about big government or big business there.
And Florida, but you have to cram him inside your server first.
Arguably Korea and Vietnam were fought as a part of the "Cold War" with the Soviet Union...
As a counterpoint I'd like to propose the notion of any company that turns a profit selling cigarettes or alcohol.
Pot, I'd like you to meet my friend kettle. I think you two will find you have a lot in common.
Then I guess the RIAA/MPAA is the greatest artist America has ever seen.
Except I don't believe the NYT has distribution in China...You know, that great firewall and all.
And people that hit themselves in the head with a hammer aren't automatically idiots, but they're most definately masochists. You have a choice, and you've chosen to go with ease of use and convenience at the expense of security and system reliability. There's nothing wrong with that, it's just not the choice that most /.ers would choose.
However, as you said not all windows users are automatically idiots, but verily you can see the foolishness in proclaiming the superiority of a flawed system, just because you have a '95%' solution? What happens when that unexpected 5 out of 100 attack occurs and your system gets fugged up? Is your data secure? Is it valuable enough that you take measures to protect it? Because if not, then truly you're asking for devastation using a system that isn't 100%.
You have just given me the best idea for a porn. Or possibly the worst. Time will tell?
I can attest to this being from Franklin City, VA. You could always tell the natives (people that had grown up drinking the water there) by the brown stains on their teeth.
Although it could have something to do with the paper mill there too. Who knows.
You know? I've really had it with these snakes on a plane references, get your snakes off my internets!
However I can always void my warranty and rip the damn thing out.
doo....doo....doo.... Hey! Where did that cool plastic castle come from?
You want a better solution to the AIDS/HIV problem?
Don't have sex, share needles or get blood transfusions (claim to be a Jehovah`s Witness if necessary)
qed
I'd hope you're a middle school or high school student, but I fear you may be a Ph.D candidate this being Slashdot. (Not that there is anything wrong with being 27 and still living with Mom and Dad.)
But slashdot can't be a social networking site, there aren't any giggly 14 year old girls here. (You know, the type that would have wanted to keep the OMG PONIEZ!!111!11!1! layout)
Exploding Ipod NANO snakes on a plane?