This is from the same people that made that the guy made the super computer basically in his garage and you can shoot a bullet through it and it will still run and it's faster than a cray and deep blue and it's about 4 feet squared. There was a previous slashdot article, but I'm not at home on the cable, so I'm not waiting 15 minutes to search for the URL, sorry.
Noone sees the abstract layers in Linux and Unix, ie, X, window manager, desktop manager (GNOME). So basically the highest, most visible one in the chain gets the notice, not X. That's okay I guess, but if we are to distinguish ourselves from OS's where the gui is ingrained into the kernel and everything else (which of course isn't good), we need to tout the fact that when GNOME fucks up...as it does a lot, you can normally get back to X or the command prompt and restart it, not the machine. Gnome however, has caused my system multiple times to freeze altogether, not ctrl-alt-backspace or ctrl-alt-f1-f6 which sucks, and I'm not using it until it's more stable. However, they're missing the point. Gnome is really still in development and never should've had the 1.0 version tag. However, it is very very good, despite it's still being in development. I think when it is stable it will rival all others.
The problem with all the open source software is that not all groups apply the same scrutiny that Linus and the Kernel guys do. they have no corporate timeline, and don't rush things, they wait until it's solid, and I think pressure from RedHat to get it done in time for RH6.0 pushed Gnome out the door too early. Enlightenment too, they wisely haven't chosen to give it a 1.0 version, and it's not ready. they've got a lot of really good stuff in there, but some of it noone really gives a shit about. I think that the development teams on these two should solidify their code so it's really stable, and then get some convergence on writing GTK apps, and get a really nice development environment with easy libraries, and then it will be easy for people to port apps from M$. Java and (I hate to say it) Visual C++ with MFC have a lot of functionality built into their languages. They have simplified functions for a number of things. Linux development would boom if developmers didn't have to find the code that they wanted out of 30 different GNU programs, if they had those same things they needed as stock functions we'd be set, and apps would be all over the place.
This sucks ass! Mediaone sucks, MS sucks, AOL sucks, and the ADSL alternative isn't available, not to mention Bellsouth sucking too. I only hope that MS, if they buy into it, don't try to do what they did to Hotmail and put everything on NT and scrap the solaris machines. That would be a nightmare. BTW: my email doesn't work, goddamn mediaone cable modem one way piece of shit! Give me ATM backbone into my rat infested shack or givee me death (or more crappy cable modem access, whichever comes first)
Has anyone thought about Clustering those DIMM-PC's that the world's smallest web server runs on (previous slashdot article)??? They're the size of like an SDRAM chip, and go into a DIMM socket, so if you made a sufficient backplane and slapped several hundred, or several thousand, they'd never have to deal with network cable, ethernet cards or anything, and they're like $400 a piece with like 16Mes of ram and a 16 meg flash rom, and a 486-sx 66. Granted they're not that powerful by themselves, but you'd have power in numbers, you could probably fit a hundred of those on a motherboard sized backplane. And 100 of those would run circles around a top of the line machine today, and it'd be in one box. I was looking at that world's smallest web server thing and it got me thinking. The advantage of those over regular PCs is size, 2000 desktop machines would take several rooms, whereas 2000 of those, would be 2000 cubic inches...not that much room at all, but it'd cost ~$800,000. Hmmm if they're using 2000 machines, that's got to cost some major flow, would it even be worth it?
Okay granted I read the first paragraph...that's all I needed. The techie one didn't catch my attention, so I went on to the other dipshit's article. They're having some novice English major install Linux on a machine that has Windows 98...did he install Windows 98 from scratch? I seriously fucking doubt it. Everyone's main gripe with installing Linux is that you have to do some disk partitioning, which I figured out on my own when I was 12 a few weeks after I got an 8088 with DOS 2.0. It's not rocket science. And partitioning a disk from one OS to the other is not a major thing either. I had my first Linux partitions set up a few years ago before I knew shit about Linux. It's not hard. The thing people fail to point out when they say..."Linux sucks it's too hard to install with that disk partitioning and all" or whatever is that they got their PC from someone as dumb as them from Comp-USA and someone on the assembly line fdisked their drive and installed windows for them. These idiots would have the same problem with windows if they ever installed it in the first place, or to level the field installed it on a machine that has no partitions...a drive straight from the factory. Personally I think Linux installs are easy, they put the fdisking shit right in the install...it's a separate program in Windows or DOS...Oh by the way, you have to reboot your machine several times (once for FDISK, and 3,487,985,234 times for windows)
Well I don't know any of these people personally, and going by my using Emacs out the wazoo and linux out the wazoo I think they both deserve their respect. That being said, everything I've read about how Stallman's and Linus' personalities are, I think Stallman does seem like a pain in the butt, but you gotta love the guy. I think that's a stupid article in the first place. I think with anything you're going to get retards, shit the world's full of them. And if these people are taking their opinions from the slashdot posts then get a clue. I don't post much, not because I'm not a hardcore/.er, but because I've got other shit to do. I am very hardcore on/. I feel funny if I don't check back a couple time a day to see what's going on. Most of the postings by reader are stupid though (this included:-), and they're an oportunity for us to bitch, and nothing more. I also think that all these people downplaying Linux have never taken the time to install it and check it out, or never had much experience with Unix, or never went to college for a CS degree, or whatever, but they don't understand the underlying way Unix and its variants are written, and the planning that went into it. Windows doesn't seem very well thought out, and it has inherent flaws in design. Sure, for example, games may work better if the programmer can write directly to the video hardware, but it's also a zillion times more likely to crash the system, so that's a tradeoff MS shouldn't have made. flaws such as this and poor design are evident also in the way they splinter windows into 98/NT/soon to bee 64-bit since they can't port the 32 bit one...etc etc etc. When most people say windows sucks, linux is great, I think a lot of them don't really have the answer to why, and they should. If that's what was implied by this article then it's right, but I think that there are more people on Linux that do know what the fuck's up and aren't just blowing steam out of their asses...know what I mean Vern?
I thought this article was very good. I think it does more for the suits than the Gurus, which is also good, since we already know. It hints at it, but doesn't come right out and say...These OS's aren't being well planned prior to programming. Because of that the underlying code is probably not very modular, or not as much as it should be, and due to this, leads to these problems, like 64-bit NT. I wish Intel would hurry up and stop pushing cheezy chips like the PIII and go ahead with the Merced. That would further doom MS, since Intel is helping to port Linux to merced:-)
The Apple people need to be straight forward. Every time they come out with a new OS or new anything they claim it's faster that Windows or Intel Platforms in General, and now Linux? I just don't buy it. I've heard it before, sure maybe in their lab, but within a week after every release they have they are disproved by every magazine on the planet. I like that Apple has made somewhat of a comeback, but they should realize that the underdogs need to work together, ie linux & Mac & BeOS (although I'm not so sure about BeOS, couldn't get the demo CD to run on any of about 6 machines, all with supported hardware). Anyhow, the Be people have promoted Linux along with their OS, Mac should do the same.
That totally kicks ass. I think the more we see Linux on unique systems like that and stuff like the more it will get it's name out. This is of course due to the power at hand and coustomizability. I set my mom up with SuSE 6.0 this weekend, and she likes Star Office 5. You gotta dig it! She was all worried, but now she likes it. I should make a page for getting computer retards to be able to use the computer. Linux easily gives you the ability t shield users from their own stupidity, and X can have a tailored interface so they don't ever see shit that confuses them. I've still got a lot of that to do. She still has to su root to shutdown. Mom doesn't care about leaving it on, she's too worried about a fire. I tried to soothe her. Anyhow, world domination is on the horizon my friends...Adventure ha! Excitement ha! A Jedi Craves not these things!
Sure, Modular is better, but hey, the boards are cheap. I'm running Linux on a K6200 and a $60 motherboard with integrated sound that I don't have working. However, What's the loss, I can disable it and add a card...Although, I've never spent very much time on sound config, and it probably works, someone with a similar card posted saying it works...Anyhow, mine is a Eurone motherboard, I think they make matsonic too. I think it actually performs better than a lot of comparable machines. So, sure, modular is better, but for the price and the ability to disable it, you're really getting more out of it. BTW www.pricewatch.com is where to go for cheap hardware, I've never been let down.
I think you missed my point. People in Vietnam are making toys and picking rice all day for about $1.50 a day (I'm guessing here), and Vietnam is still a pissant country. And the Big USA (MS in his analogy), is still the most powerful country despite losing to Vietnam. My point in this being that If his analogy holds true, winning the war isn't resulting in anything. Like the $50 spent because Bill got Head from an intern. I don't think this will happen, I just wanted to point out the flaw in the analogy. Live Long Linux!!!
I like the "'guerrilla army' of OSS" quote and all, but please If this he's comparing the OSS movement to Vietnam, we might as well quit writing the software, because in case you need to check your history book, the US is more powerful now, over 20 years after Vietnam, despite losing. I don't think anyone wants that with Microsloth. Other than that, I liked the article...Anyone who was seeking a refund should sue for the refund, and damages for them not giving the money to them in the first place.
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This is from the same people that made that the guy made the super computer basically in his garage and you can shoot a bullet through it and it will still run and it's faster than a cray and deep blue and it's about 4 feet squared. There was a previous slashdot article, but I'm not at home on the cable, so I'm not waiting 15 minutes to search for the URL, sorry.
Noone sees the abstract layers in Linux and Unix, ie, X, window manager, desktop manager (GNOME). So basically the highest, most visible one in the chain gets the notice, not X. That's okay I guess, but if we are to distinguish ourselves from OS's where the gui is ingrained into the kernel and everything else (which of course isn't good), we need to tout the fact that when GNOME fucks up...as it does a lot, you can normally get back to X or the command prompt and restart it, not the machine. Gnome however, has caused my system multiple times to freeze altogether, not ctrl-alt-backspace or ctrl-alt-f1-f6 which sucks, and I'm not using it until it's more stable. However, they're missing the point. Gnome is really still in development and never should've had the 1.0 version tag. However, it is very very good, despite it's still being in development. I think when it is stable it will rival all others.
The problem with all the open source software is that not all groups apply the same scrutiny that Linus and the Kernel guys do. they have no corporate timeline, and don't rush things, they wait until it's solid, and I think pressure from RedHat to get it done in time for RH6.0 pushed Gnome out the door too early. Enlightenment too, they wisely haven't chosen to give it a 1.0 version, and it's not ready. they've got a lot of really good stuff in there, but some of it noone really gives a shit about. I think that the development teams on these two should solidify their code so it's really stable, and then get some convergence on writing GTK apps, and get a really nice development environment with easy libraries, and then it will be easy for people to port apps from M$. Java and (I hate to say it) Visual C++ with MFC have a lot of functionality built into their languages. They have simplified functions for a number of things. Linux development would boom if developmers didn't have to find the code that they wanted out of 30 different GNU programs, if they had those same things they needed as stock functions we'd be set, and apps would be all over the place.
This sucks ass! Mediaone sucks, MS sucks, AOL sucks, and the ADSL alternative isn't available, not to mention Bellsouth sucking too. I only hope that MS, if they buy into it, don't try to do what they did to Hotmail and put everything on NT and scrap the solaris machines. That would be a nightmare. BTW: my email doesn't work, goddamn mediaone cable modem one way piece of shit! Give me ATM backbone into my rat infested shack or givee me death (or more crappy cable modem access, whichever comes first)
Has anyone thought about Clustering those DIMM-PC's that the world's smallest web server runs on (previous slashdot article)??? They're the size of like an SDRAM chip, and go into a DIMM socket, so if you made a sufficient backplane and slapped several hundred, or several thousand, they'd never have to deal with network cable, ethernet cards or anything, and they're like $400 a piece with like 16Mes of ram and a 16 meg flash rom, and a 486-sx 66. Granted they're not that powerful by themselves, but you'd have power in numbers, you could probably fit a hundred of those on a motherboard sized backplane. And 100 of those would run circles around a top of the line machine today, and it'd be in one box. I was looking at that world's smallest web server thing and it got me thinking. The advantage of those over regular PCs is size, 2000 desktop machines would take several rooms, whereas 2000 of those, would be 2000 cubic inches...not that much room at all, but it'd cost ~$800,000. Hmmm if they're using 2000 machines, that's got to cost some major flow, would it even be worth it?
Okay granted I read the first paragraph...that's all I needed. The techie one didn't catch my attention, so I went on to the other dipshit's article. They're having some novice English major install Linux on a machine that has Windows 98...did he install Windows 98 from scratch? I seriously fucking doubt it. Everyone's main gripe with installing Linux is that you have to do some disk partitioning, which I figured out on my own when I was 12 a few weeks after I got an 8088 with DOS 2.0. It's not rocket science. And partitioning a disk from one OS to the other is not a major thing either. I had my first Linux partitions set up a few years ago before I knew shit about Linux. It's not hard. The thing people fail to point out when they say..."Linux sucks it's too hard to install with that disk partitioning and all" or whatever is that they got their PC from someone as dumb as them from Comp-USA and someone on the assembly line fdisked their drive and installed windows for them. These idiots would have the same problem with windows if they ever installed it in the first place, or to level the field installed it on a machine that has no partitions...a drive straight from the factory. Personally I think Linux installs are easy, they put the fdisking shit right in the install...it's a separate program in Windows or DOS...Oh by the way, you have to reboot your machine several times (once for FDISK, and 3,487,985,234 times for windows)
Well I don't know any of these people personally, and going by my using Emacs out the wazoo and linux out the wazoo I think they both deserve their respect. That being said, everything I've read about how Stallman's and Linus' personalities are, I think Stallman does seem like a pain in the butt, but you gotta love the guy. I think that's a stupid article in the first place. I think with anything you're going to get retards, shit the world's full of them. And if these people are taking their opinions from the slashdot posts then get a clue. I don't post much, not because I'm not a hardcore /.er, but because I've got other shit to do. I am very hardcore on /. I feel funny if I don't check back a couple time a day to see what's going on. Most of the postings by reader are stupid though (this included :-), and they're an oportunity for us to bitch, and nothing more. I also think that all these people downplaying Linux have never taken the time to install it and check it out, or never had much experience with Unix, or never went to college for a CS degree, or whatever, but they don't understand the underlying way Unix and its variants are written, and the planning that went into it. Windows doesn't seem very well thought out, and it has inherent flaws in design. Sure, for example, games may work better if the programmer can write directly to the video hardware, but it's also a zillion times more likely to crash the system, so that's a tradeoff MS shouldn't have made. flaws such as this and poor design are evident also in the way they splinter windows into 98/NT/soon to bee 64-bit since they can't port the 32 bit one...etc etc etc. When most people say windows sucks, linux is great, I think a lot of them don't really have the answer to why, and they should. If that's what was implied by this article then it's right, but I think that there are more people on Linux that do know what the fuck's up and aren't just blowing steam out of their asses...know what I mean Vern?
I thought this article was very good. I think it does more for the suits than the Gurus, which is also good, since we already know. It hints at it, but doesn't come right out and say...These OS's aren't being well planned prior to programming. Because of that the underlying code is probably not very modular, or not as much as it should be, and due to this, leads to these problems, like 64-bit NT. I wish Intel would hurry up and stop pushing cheezy chips like the PIII and go ahead with the Merced. That would further doom MS, since Intel is helping to port Linux to merced :-)
The Apple people need to be straight forward. Every time they come out with a new OS or new anything they claim it's faster that Windows or Intel Platforms in General, and now Linux? I just don't buy it. I've heard it before, sure maybe in their lab, but within a week after every release they have they are disproved by every magazine on the planet. I like that Apple has made somewhat of a comeback, but they should realize that the underdogs need to work together, ie linux & Mac & BeOS (although I'm not so sure about BeOS, couldn't get the demo CD to run on any of about 6 machines, all with supported hardware). Anyhow, the Be people have promoted Linux along with their OS, Mac should do the same.
That totally kicks ass. I think the more we see Linux on unique systems like that and stuff like the more it will get it's name out. This is of course due to the power at hand and coustomizability. I set my mom up with SuSE 6.0 this weekend, and she likes Star Office 5. You gotta dig it! She was all worried, but now she likes it. I should make a page for getting computer retards to be able to use the computer. Linux easily gives you the ability t shield users from their own stupidity, and X can have a tailored interface so they don't ever see shit that confuses them. I've still got a lot of that to do. She still has to su root to shutdown. Mom doesn't care about leaving it on, she's too worried about a fire. I tried to soothe her. Anyhow, world domination is on the horizon my friends...Adventure ha! Excitement ha! A Jedi Craves not these things!
Sure, Modular is better, but hey, the boards are cheap. I'm running Linux on a K6200 and a $60 motherboard with integrated sound that I don't have working. However, What's the loss, I can disable it and add a card...Although, I've never spent very much time on sound config, and it probably works, someone with a similar card posted saying it works...Anyhow, mine is a Eurone motherboard, I think they make matsonic too. I think it actually performs better than a lot of comparable machines. So, sure, modular is better, but for the price and the ability to disable it, you're really getting more out of it. BTW www.pricewatch.com is where to go for cheap hardware, I've never been let down.
I think you missed my point. People in Vietnam are making toys and picking rice all day for about $1.50 a day (I'm guessing here), and Vietnam is still a pissant country. And the Big USA (MS in his analogy), is still the most powerful country despite losing to Vietnam. My point in this being that If his analogy holds true, winning the war isn't resulting in anything. Like the $50 spent because Bill got Head from an intern. I don't think this will happen, I just wanted to point out the flaw in the analogy. Live Long Linux!!!
I like the "'guerrilla army' of OSS" quote and all, but please If this he's comparing the OSS movement to Vietnam, we might as well quit writing the software, because in case you need to check your history book, the US is more powerful now, over 20 years after Vietnam, despite losing. I don't think anyone wants that with Microsloth. Other than that, I liked the article...Anyone who was seeking a refund should sue for the refund, and damages for them not giving the money to them in the first place.
It's not the size of the wave, it's the motion of the ocean. Gotta say though, I think slash dot has brough this little guy to it's knees I can't hit it worth a damn.