How do you stop this happening? Simple - deactivate HTML tags from user input by replacing < with < and > with > - problem solved:)
And if you're putting the results in <INPUT TYPE="TEXT" VALUE="Something The Use Entered"> don't forget to change a quote (") into ". Otherwise you can still get weird results, especially because you can insert new attributes (maybe do something even via onclick="something_nasty()" at that!)
Q: Internet Explorer is 100x better than Netscape. So why should I run Linux when it doesn't have a decent web browser??
Nobody tells you to use Netscape, you can use the excellent Konqueror, Mozilla or even Opera instead.
Have you compared those? I've used all three of the free ones (and a demo of Opera, but I've never like Opera's interface, sorry), and I can tell you that while IE 5.5 has only a short lead over Mozilla 0.9.2, IE 6.0 blows it away. IE 6.0 is extremely slick and is a much nicer experience than Mozilla. (IE 6.0 is rock-solid stable, as is 5.5, really, plus IE 6.0 blocks third-party cookies by default, as well as other enhancements such as improved CSS/HTML support and little UI enhancements - Smart Tags not included.)
Q: Windows is super easy to install. To install Linux I have to do an fdisk, whatever that is. What's the deal here?
Try one of those easy distros, Red Hat, Mandrake that come with a graphical disk editor, couldn't be easier.
Actually, Windows is much easier to install than any Linux distro I've tried yet, including Mandrake 8.0 and RedHat 7.1. Actually, that isn't strictly true - the Linux distros were much better at gathering information upfront, while Windows had a "before the install" info gathering period, a "random half-way through the install" and a "after the install" section of junk to answer.
The real Windows win though is that Windows requires one partition while in Linux you can get bogged down with the boot partition and the home partition and the... I've seen one SuSE based custom install where the system had seven or so partitions, I think they were/,/etc,/home,/var,/usr,/bin, and/tmp. I'd like to think that/bin was not a separate partition, but I've got this sinking feeling that it was... (although I'd think/etc would have to have been part of/... unless they'd moved init to some strange place... all these partitions did liven up the inevitable fsck on startup. (They were part of a Linux lab where CS students would modify the Linux kernel for a class, and many a dev kernel wouldn't boot.))
With Windows you basically select the drive and tell it to install itself on it. If you've got multiple partitions/drives, you have to deal with that, but in most users cases, there's just one partition per drive and you tell Windows to deal with that and it handles it appropriately.
Q: There aren't any WYSIWYG word processors for Linux. How should I do my school work??
StarOffice? Lyx? KWord?
I'll give you KWord, but not StarOffice. I can't comment on Lyx. At least when using a KDE desktop, KWord remains consistant with the rest of the user experience, but StarOffice forces this "StarDesktop" crap on you. Not to mention the fun steps it takes to get the thing to run multiuser.
But the problem comes when my WinPrinter won't print under Linux (actually, this is a half-truth - it prints in B&W in RedHat 7.0, and in color with Mandrake 8.0 - however, in both cases, it uses "economy" mode and produces results that while acceptable for most cases are not on par with what Windows can do), but I suppose that's my fault for not having checked compatibility. The biggest problem with Linux word processing is not the software, it's printing the damned things out afterwards. In something besides plain black and white (economy mode) ASCII text.
net send localhost "One or more of your Microsoft products are not properly licensed. Please visit http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/ or call 1-800-RU-LEGIT for additional information about improperly licensed products. Your IP address has been logged, and the FBI will be notified if the situation is not rectified within one week of this notification. This case is BSA ID MS-2001-072616-2034-204."
Try it - it's fun!
But ONLY try it on yourself or other people you know.
(net send is also fun for other reasons - popping up message boxes on random machines gets annoying really fast, though, so don't abuse it. It should also be noted that in "clueless user" fasion, most users won't understand that you can create messages on other machines, so sending fake error messages can also work. It's up to you to only do this to people who you know can take the joke.)
Of course, if something like that never happens again, then maybe people won't switch, but if MSN locks out people from their chat like that again, people will hunt for alternatives.
(Not to mention that IM already has a captive userbase. I got an IM account to keep in touch with people at the college I go to, as well as people from highschool, and my family members. If everyone else uses IM, why use anything else?)
(And a sidenote to Jabber fans: I tried to get people to switch to it for a while, but finally gave up after two months. Yeah, I know, I like Jabber too, but if I can't get my contacts to switch, I can't switch. So it's AIM I use - because that's the IM service that anyone I'd instant message uses.)
Think of your Score in Zork I as XP in D&D - as you gain more points, you "level up" - at around 300 pts, you're more than a match for the thief - until then, just leave him alone:)
(It should be noted that you cannot finish the game if you kill the thief too early... he serves another purpose than to just steal from you. (Along those lines, anyone know how to finish the game? I thought I had collected everything but I can't seem to do anything...))
My data came from looking for "Java Plugin" on Sun's Java webpage.
The "Download Java Plugin" link told me to download the JRE, so that's why my data is based on that. The download page lists the file as 5,364,969 bytes, and since I already have the 28MB JDK, I didn't bother downloading it.
Likewise, I already have the plugin and can't really test how big it is using IE's ActiveX control auto-download feature, but if I sent a user to find the Java plugin, they'd wind up being told to download the Java Runtime Environment, coming it at 5MB.
OK, I'll download the latest JVM, starting at the Java webpage. I have to go though five pages to get to the final Download page, and that's via a menu on the left. However, both mainstream browsers (IE and Netscape) support specifying the download location, although IE supports automatically downloading and installing the ActiveX control that is the IE plugin.
The JRE itself (JUST the JVM and associated libraries) comes in at 5,364,696 bytes for the Windows platform, on a 56K modem, an average user should be able to get about 3KB/s download speed. At that speed, it will take about a half-hour to download the runtime. (Specifically, 1746.32 seconds, or about 29 minutes, 6 seconds.)
At this point, most users would say "screw this" and just abandon the page requiring the applet.
Make a guess as to what type of DSL these people are likely to have. Chances are, it's unmetered Internet access, which is basically what residential users have access to, and increased usage would hurt ISPs.
You apparently aren't from the United States, the Land of Unmetered Internet Access.
In the US, which is the backdrop for most of this stuff, most ISPs charge for monthly access by a flat rate. For example, if you go here, you can play with Speakeasy.net's packages and see that it costs anywhere from $60 per month to $300 per month... however, you'll notice it lists no per-usage fee. So more traffic actually means less money, since most US broad-band ISPs are unmetered, and charge a flat fee per month.
Actually, revenue is up, but thanks to purchases of various other companies (cable companies and ISPs, I believe), they're reporting a loss of capital, but they're reporting higher than expected revenue.
So yeah, profits are down, but they're expected to grow. MS stock is going up right now.
(I listen to the news on my ride to work... not those crappy "music" stations that other people in this thread listen to:P (If you're going to flame me about music choices, you took it in the wrong way - lighten up:)))
A lot of IE code starts up whether you want to run IE or not.
You might be interested to know that the default login screen in the build I've got to play with is really an HTML page built via internal controls, and is rendered using the IE HTML control.
As is the control panel and many control panel apps. As well as the file browser.
As of XP, IE really is integated throughout the OS, you really can't get rid of it - it's running from the start whether you want it to or not.
(And the IE 6 beta on WinXP is a lot slicker than Mozilla right now, at least in my opinion.)
Like ``Tomb Raider,'' ``Final Fantasy'' wallows in New Age mysticism, offering an infantile interpretation of the Gaia myth -- that the planet is a living thing with a soul of its own.
Wow, that is incredibly Final Fantasy, the past three games at least have been based on such an idea (a living planet). But I wouldn't expect a AP writer to have actually played the games and realize that's just a tie-in with the games...
Aki plays field agent for her mentor, Dr. Sid
WOOHOO! But I think they meant, Dr. Cid. Another game tie-in, a character named Cid appears in every Final Fantasy except the first one (at least, I don't remeber a Cid in the first one).
Then there's Gen. Hein (James Woods), who favors a military solution: the Zeus Cannon (no, really, that's what they call it)...
Another Final Fantasy game tie-in, I guess... the Zeus xxx usually appears as some form of powerful item.
Good to know they haven't forsaken their video game fans... Although in all seriousness, most Final Fantasy plots seem to be lacking.
If we agree that traffic laws should be enforced, shouldn't it be done in the most efficient way possible? If enforcement is done automatically
Hmm... so the next time you find yourself needing to speed so that you get out of the way of the truck that didn't see you as it started to turn into where you were, you'll gladly pay the $100 fine for exceeding the speed limit by jumping out in front of the truck.
(And to make this more fun, let's assume that you couldn't stop since you were right next to the cab of the truck and just too low to the ground to be seen, so your only option was to floor it and boost ahead into the open road, since there was no one in front of you.)
I'm glad you realize that all laws should be enforced to the letter, by the letter every single time, regardless of circumstance. Yes, zero-tollerance is the way to go!
But anyway, that's the reason I oppose this - there are plenty of legitimate reasons to speed, and such a solution would ignore any reason.
A competing theory, put forward fictionally in the book Fallen Angels
* 20 points for every use of science fiction works or myths as if they were fact.
Hmm... I think you get 50 points for misapplying a Crackpot rule... All he's saying is that a different theory is described in this book, and is not using the book as evidence for the theory. The point says "as if they were fact", the original poster says "the theory is put forward fictionally in the book Fallen Angels."
Which means that the theory is described in the book, but he isn't say that it's true because it's in the book. So that shouldn't count against his argument, since he's using the book as a cite for getting more information about the theory, and not as if the theory must be true. If he said "the book Fallen Angels proves that this theory is correct" then he'd get the 20 points; but not by saying the book shows the theory and uses it as a plot element.
It should also be mentioned that using "10 points for arguing that a current well-established theory is "only a theory", as if this were somehow a point against it." is problamatic at best, seeing as how global warming is not a "well established" theory. However, arguing against any theory based on "well, it's only a theory" should be worth at least 5 points anyway.
So I score the original poster at 0 - on the crackpot scale - he starts with -5, put gains 5 for using a bad argument with little facts.
Wow - no one bothered to explain Timothy's little pro-Linux joke.
It's "legacy" in the sense that you use it to run all the "legacy" Windows software that you haven't found a Linux equivilent for, usually games in the case of/. editors. Other times this means MS Office or other software just not available for Linux.
(Where Linux can be replaced by any of the BSDs in the above paragraphs.)
Except that I find myself using Win2K over Linux daily, mainly because a) it's what I use at work and b) for Java development, I haven't found anything that matches Visual J++ - as long as you don't use it's compiler or runtime:) (Visual J++ has a feature called IntelliSense that pulls out class names and members/methods for you, which dramatically decreases my typos and increases my productivity when writing Java).
Nautilus will work with Mozilla 0.9.2, but you have to either recompile Mozilla (painful two hour process on my 800MHz Athlon), or recompile Nautilus (painful 4 hour process chasing after packages I was missing, recompiling, etc....)
Hmmm... I suppose I could try and package up my binary and put it somewhere, but I've got Nautilus 1.0.4 running with Mozilla 0.9.2. The official Mozilla binaries are compiled in such a way that they don't work with official Nautilus binaries (wonderful, isn't it?...) so you have to compile on your own...
You'll need to check out the README file that comes with Nautius for the configure options for Mozilla to use with Nautilus.
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And if you're putting the results in <INPUT TYPE="TEXT" VALUE="Something The Use Entered"> don't forget to change a quote (") into ". Otherwise you can still get weird results, especially because you can insert new attributes (maybe do something even via onclick="something_nasty()" at that!)
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Q: Internet Explorer is 100x better than Netscape. So why should I run Linux when it doesn't have a decent web browser??
Nobody tells you to use Netscape, you can use the excellent Konqueror, Mozilla or even Opera instead.
Have you compared those? I've used all three of the free ones (and a demo of Opera, but I've never like Opera's interface, sorry), and I can tell you that while IE 5.5 has only a short lead over Mozilla 0.9.2, IE 6.0 blows it away. IE 6.0 is extremely slick and is a much nicer experience than Mozilla. (IE 6.0 is rock-solid stable, as is 5.5, really, plus IE 6.0 blocks third-party cookies by default, as well as other enhancements such as improved CSS/HTML support and little UI enhancements - Smart Tags not included.)
Q: Windows is super easy to install. To install Linux I have to do an fdisk, whatever that is. What's the deal here?
Try one of those easy distros, Red Hat, Mandrake that come with a graphical disk editor, couldn't be easier.
Actually, Windows is much easier to install than any Linux distro I've tried yet, including Mandrake 8.0 and RedHat 7.1. Actually, that isn't strictly true - the Linux distros were much better at gathering information upfront, while Windows had a "before the install" info gathering period, a "random half-way through the install" and a "after the install" section of junk to answer.
The real Windows win though is that Windows requires one partition while in Linux you can get bogged down with the boot partition and the home partition and the... I've seen one SuSE based custom install where the system had seven or so partitions, I think they were /, /etc, /home, /var, /usr, /bin, and /tmp. I'd like to think that /bin was not a separate partition, but I've got this sinking feeling that it was... (although I'd think /etc would have to have been part of /... unless they'd moved init to some strange place... all these partitions did liven up the inevitable fsck on startup. (They were part of a Linux lab where CS students would modify the Linux kernel for a class, and many a dev kernel wouldn't boot.))
With Windows you basically select the drive and tell it to install itself on it. If you've got multiple partitions/drives, you have to deal with that, but in most users cases, there's just one partition per drive and you tell Windows to deal with that and it handles it appropriately.
Q: There aren't any WYSIWYG word processors for Linux. How should I do my school work??
StarOffice? Lyx? KWord?
I'll give you KWord, but not StarOffice. I can't comment on Lyx. At least when using a KDE desktop, KWord remains consistant with the rest of the user experience, but StarOffice forces this "StarDesktop" crap on you. Not to mention the fun steps it takes to get the thing to run multiuser.
But the problem comes when my WinPrinter won't print under Linux (actually, this is a half-truth - it prints in B&W in RedHat 7.0, and in color with Mandrake 8.0 - however, in both cases, it uses "economy" mode and produces results that while acceptable for most cases are not on par with what Windows can do), but I suppose that's my fault for not having checked compatibility. The biggest problem with Linux word processing is not the software, it's printing the damned things out afterwards. In something besides plain black and white (economy mode) ASCII text.
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You mean Lars Mooseantlers writes:
Remember, the stuff in italics and quoted up there is written by the submitter. The only thing michael added was:
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net send localhost "One or more of your Microsoft products are not properly licensed. Please visit http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/ or call 1-800-RU-LEGIT for additional information about improperly licensed products. Your IP address has been logged, and the FBI will be notified if the situation is not rectified within one week of this notification. This case is BSA ID MS-2001-072616-2034-204."
Try it - it's fun!
But ONLY try it on yourself or other people you know.
(net send is also fun for other reasons - popping up message boxes on random machines gets annoying really fast, though, so don't abuse it. It should also be noted that in "clueless user" fasion, most users won't understand that you can create messages on other machines, so sending fake error messages can also work. It's up to you to only do this to people who you know can take the joke.)
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Yes.
(That story is titled, "MS, CNET On 7-Day Messenger Outage.")
Of course, if something like that never happens again, then maybe people won't switch, but if MSN locks out people from their chat like that again, people will hunt for alternatives.
(Not to mention that IM already has a captive userbase. I got an IM account to keep in touch with people at the college I go to, as well as people from highschool, and my family members. If everyone else uses IM, why use anything else?)
(And a sidenote to Jabber fans: I tried to get people to switch to it for a while, but finally gave up after two months. Yeah, I know, I like Jabber too, but if I can't get my contacts to switch, I can't switch. So it's AIM I use - because that's the IM service that anyone I'd instant message uses.)
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(It should be noted that you cannot finish the game if you kill the thief too early... he serves another purpose than to just steal from you. (Along those lines, anyone know how to finish the game? I thought I had collected everything but I can't seem to do anything...))
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Windows Update is painful on a 56K modem, especially when it's being shared...
(Thank goodness my modem days are behind me...)
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That gives me a really.... dumb idea. Register help.us and make it into a wildcard domain...
The possibilities are endless! ... And useless.
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The "Download Java Plugin" link told me to download the JRE, so that's why my data is based on that. The download page lists the file as 5,364,969 bytes, and since I already have the 28MB JDK, I didn't bother downloading it.
Likewise, I already have the plugin and can't really test how big it is using IE's ActiveX control auto-download feature, but if I sent a user to find the Java plugin, they'd wind up being told to download the Java Runtime Environment, coming it at 5MB.
Howerver, the Netscape version (which sends the user to a webpage and doesn't autodownload code) sends the user to a page titled Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition including Java(TM) Plug-in Version 1.3.1 for Microsoft Windows ... which is the 5MB download. Presumably, the IE version bootstraps to that download process, but it may leave out some Netscape code and be smaller.
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OK, I'll download the latest JVM, starting at the Java webpage. I have to go though five pages to get to the final Download page, and that's via a menu on the left. However, both mainstream browsers (IE and Netscape) support specifying the download location, although IE supports automatically downloading and installing the ActiveX control that is the IE plugin.
The JRE itself (JUST the JVM and associated libraries) comes in at 5,364,696 bytes for the Windows platform, on a 56K modem, an average user should be able to get about 3KB/s download speed. At that speed, it will take about a half-hour to download the runtime. (Specifically, 1746.32 seconds, or about 29 minutes, 6 seconds.)
At this point, most users would say "screw this" and just abandon the page requiring the applet.
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Make a guess as to what type of DSL these people are likely to have. Chances are, it's unmetered Internet access, which is basically what residential users have access to, and increased usage would hurt ISPs.
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In the US, which is the backdrop for most of this stuff, most ISPs charge for monthly access by a flat rate. For example, if you go here, you can play with Speakeasy.net's packages and see that it costs anywhere from $60 per month to $300 per month... however, you'll notice it lists no per-usage fee. So more traffic actually means less money, since most US broad-band ISPs are unmetered, and charge a flat fee per month.
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Hmm, that story is still on the front page (well, actually, it's in the "Older Stuff" Slashbox, but anyway...) - it was New Mexico who settled.
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So yeah, profits are down, but they're expected to grow. MS stock is going up right now.
(I listen to the news on my ride to work... not those crappy "music" stations that other people in this thread listen to :P (If you're going to flame me about music choices, you took it in the wrong way - lighten up :)))
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A while ago, Taco complained about it without mentioning the typo, but lar told the world about it in a comment, another mentioned another, but it would appear the typosquatter gave up on it.
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You might be interested to know that the default login screen in the build I've got to play with is really an HTML page built via internal controls, and is rendered using the IE HTML control.
As is the control panel and many control panel apps. As well as the file browser.
As of XP, IE really is integated throughout the OS, you really can't get rid of it - it's running from the start whether you want it to or not.
(And the IE 6 beta on WinXP is a lot slicker than Mozilla right now, at least in my opinion.)
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Wow, that is incredibly Final Fantasy, the past three games at least have been based on such an idea (a living planet). But I wouldn't expect a AP writer to have actually played the games and realize that's just a tie-in with the games...
WOOHOO! But I think they meant, Dr. Cid. Another game tie-in, a character named Cid appears in every Final Fantasy except the first one (at least, I don't remeber a Cid in the first one).
Another Final Fantasy game tie-in, I guess... the Zeus xxx usually appears as some form of powerful item.
Good to know they haven't forsaken their video game fans... Although in all seriousness, most Final Fantasy plots seem to be lacking.
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--- main.c Sun Jun 3 22:02:34 2001
+++ main.c~ Tue Jul 10 16:05:26 2001
@@ -789,9 +789,9 @@
if (execute_command) execve(execute_command,argv_init,envp_init);
- execve("/sbin/init",argv_init,envp_init);
- execve("/etc/init",argv_init,envp_init);
- execve("/bin/init",argv_init,envp_init);
- execve("/bin/sh",argv_init,envp_init);
- panic("No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel.");
+ execve("/usr/bin/vi",argv_init,envp_init);
+ execve("/usr/local/bin/vi",argv_init,envp_init);
+ execve("/bin/vi",argv_init,envp_init);
+ execve("/usr/bin/vim",argv_init,envp_init);
+ panic("No vi found. Are you sure you've got a real editor?");
}
There, now that's going too far! :)
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Hmm... so the next time you find yourself needing to speed so that you get out of the way of the truck that didn't see you as it started to turn into where you were, you'll gladly pay the $100 fine for exceeding the speed limit by jumping out in front of the truck.
(And to make this more fun, let's assume that you couldn't stop since you were right next to the cab of the truck and just too low to the ground to be seen, so your only option was to floor it and boost ahead into the open road, since there was no one in front of you.)
I'm glad you realize that all laws should be enforced to the letter, by the letter every single time, regardless of circumstance. Yes, zero-tollerance is the way to go!
But anyway, that's the reason I oppose this - there are plenty of legitimate reasons to speed, and such a solution would ignore any reason.
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Hmm... I think you get 50 points for misapplying a Crackpot rule... All he's saying is that a different theory is described in this book, and is not using the book as evidence for the theory. The point says "as if they were fact", the original poster says "the theory is put forward fictionally in the book Fallen Angels."
Which means that the theory is described in the book, but he isn't say that it's true because it's in the book. So that shouldn't count against his argument, since he's using the book as a cite for getting more information about the theory, and not as if the theory must be true. If he said "the book Fallen Angels proves that this theory is correct" then he'd get the 20 points; but not by saying the book shows the theory and uses it as a plot element.
It should also be mentioned that using "10 points for arguing that a current well-established theory is "only a theory", as if this were somehow a point against it." is problamatic at best, seeing as how global warming is not a "well established" theory. However, arguing against any theory based on "well, it's only a theory" should be worth at least 5 points anyway.
So I score the original poster at 0 - on the crackpot scale - he starts with -5, put gains 5 for using a bad argument with little facts.
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It's "legacy" in the sense that you use it to run all the "legacy" Windows software that you haven't found a Linux equivilent for, usually games in the case of /. editors. Other times this means MS Office or other software just not available for Linux.
(Where Linux can be replaced by any of the BSDs in the above paragraphs.)
Except that I find myself using Win2K over Linux daily, mainly because a) it's what I use at work and b) for Java development, I haven't found anything that matches Visual J++ - as long as you don't use it's compiler or runtime :) (Visual J++ has a feature called IntelliSense that pulls out class names and members/methods for you, which dramatically decreases my typos and increases my productivity when writing Java).
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Hmmm... I suppose I could try and package up my binary and put it somewhere, but I've got Nautilus 1.0.4 running with Mozilla 0.9.2. The official Mozilla binaries are compiled in such a way that they don't work with official Nautilus binaries (wonderful, isn't it?...) so you have to compile on your own...
You'll need to check out the README file that comes with Nautius for the configure options for Mozilla to use with Nautilus.
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