I bet if animals could stop their prey from rotting after death, other animals respected them for having the corpses, and having those corpses made them more desirable as a mate, they would kill for trophies. I think that lower animals just aren't smart enough to realize that lots of corpses means a better provider. Instead they rely on size and weight.
Re:Here we go..... [über-offtopic]
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Christians, Jews, and Muslims beleive in the same God. Christians are Jews, Muslims are Christians(sort of). Muslims beleive that Jesus was a prophet, but not the son of God. The reason that people say Judeo-Christian is because they share a God. At the time people started using the word, there were exactly 4 Muslims in western society, none of whom spoke English. Then some of them started blowing our stuff up, so we snubbed them. Plus Muslimo-Judeo-Christian doesn't sound all that great.
It is still worth it. Genocide is no worse than murder. Everyone only has to die once. If knowledge is worth one innocent life, it is worth all of them. Whether or not it is worth one life is a personal choice.
Re:People are bad, mmkay?
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If you took away man's technology for a generation, he would be prey, but he would almost certainly live, because he would rebuild technology. He would figure out how to build a trap and a bow. How can anything that is made entirely from natural sources and is put together using natural forces, possibly be unnatural? Also, I happen to know for a fact that nature created intelligence so that we could clear up all her little mistakes like birds and insects.
Re:People are bad, mmkay? (you got it all wrong)
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I betcha Linux would survive. Even if there was a nuclear war, I'm sure there is a heavily sheilded computer somewhere in Canada that would survive. It might not be turned on, but eventually it would become intelligent and clone us. I hope by then we will have finally one this war with nature.
On behalf of America, I appologize. The problem is that since we have the Simpsons up against our news programs, very few of us find out what's going on in any other countries. After a while, you just forget they are there. Plus, most of us don't really care what happens in other countries, as long as there are no noisemakers thrown our way. Also, other than Canada, which we consider part of our country, we forget that other people know how to speak English. England is way too close to all the places that speak the freaky(non English) languages. Keep in mind that I only speak for a small portion of the unwashed masses. Everyone else probably knows all about the news. Also, we don't have a clue if the English are still riding on horses and wearing armor, worshipping the queen or something. As you can see, I meant none of this, but we are sorry, and we consider most English speakers Americans. I'd like to appologize, also, to anyone who read this comment.
Heeeeeeeell yeah. Everybody go buy a Honda Insight. Those cars is baaaaad-ass. $21,000, 50-70 estimated miles per gallon, but real people get 40-60. The drawback is it's only a two seater, and 0-60 in 11.5. Also it's so light that if an SUV taps you, you'll end up in another zip code, but that's true of any car. At least you can be sure that they will roll over right after they send you into orbit.
Some of us are far too ugly to have children. Screw you pretty people and screw your pretty children. You can't hurt the planet. It isn't alive. Also, it doesn't really matter if the environment changes drastically and lots of things die. Even if every animal can feel, none will have to experience the pain of death more than once. They have to die anyway. In answer to the obvious hypocrisy that some may see in this post: Yes I do think murder is wrong, but the effects of my driving around are completely unpredictable. Maybe one of the poeple who dies of cancer from my pollution would have been the next Hitler. It's not the same as murder. This post is not flaimbait or a troll. I'm sure other people feel the same way. Either way, feel free to moderate me down. I have like -49 karma anyway. Fight the pretty people! Run your air conditioner and heater at the same time.
While reading your comment I noticed you said ""free" energy". I wonder how long it will take Jon Katz to start a ten part series on the evils of closed, proprietary energy as opposed to the open, free as in speech energy that makes us all better people. I think that open energy is important, especially in this post-Columbine era of geek persecution.
Note to moderators: If you're looking at this post and asking yourself if you should moderate this as off topic or save your points for a penis bird, I reccomend moderating me down. After all, it wouldn't be fair to deprive one of those birdies of an audience. Thank you for your time. I'm sorry.
I'm guessing that you have somehow missinterpretted my comment as a troll. If it is, it was not intentional. I did origionally think that it might possibly be a real ai. At the time I had only read the hall of fame topics that attempted to explain the ai. It seemed a reasonable way to simulate intelligence, but they did not seem to be behaving in the same way that their description of the technology would imply. I tried to find other evidence that it was fake. I printed that evidence in reply to several posts asking if this was real ai. In response to your advice, I don't think I was being even a little offensive. If I was, I do not know who I was offending. I also did not care about the number of replies. People seemed to be confused. I thought I would try to help them. For those of you who are reading this post, but don't care if I am a troll or not, I am sorry that you had to read this. I suggest that someone moderate it down so that fewer people have to read it.
And, now that I have read some more of the hall of fame, I realize that this is obviously fake, and I am an idiot for devoting so much time to the above post. I would like to apologize to everyone who read that.
I heard about this thing about an hour ago. I am not completely sure whether or not it is fake, but I believe it is. First, he claims he could not maintain funding because his investors said it wouldn't pay off. There are millions of dollars invested in natural language processing. If this actually worked, we would probably be using SOMADS in our computers now, paying a monthly fee to intelleq(I think that's what his investor was called.)
Second, his paper appears to be entirely based on breaking down sentances and deriving meaning. He mentions nothing about image recognition, but on at least one occasion it shows his persona giving proofs about triangles with pictures demonstrating them in the hall of fame. If their primary information source is the text of newsgroups, these personas should be unable to tell what a picture is of. It might be able to assume the images content through contextual clues, but could not guarantee the content of the image was what they expected. Also it would take another step in programming to let the persona know that pictures can be used to clarify a concept. It doesn't seem to be covered in his paper.
It is also unlikely that a program that got all it's information from newsgroups would be able to tell what was funny and what was not based on sentance structure. I guess it is possible, but I doubt anyone has a clue on how to implement it.
Also, at one point, a new persona (Trinity) is appearantly created during a conversation by another persona. It would probably be fairly dangerous to give personas access to your database to personas, which, in tbe process of learning, could spawn hundreds of senseless personas.
There are probably work-arounds for most, if not all, of the things I said, but I don't think anyone is good enough to do them at this time.
When it is revealed to be real I will be very embarrassed, so I'm hoping it's fake.
The C64 WAS the pinnacle of computing. Also, I think the last innovation intel had was the celeron, and that was a long time ago. I'm not sure, but I think P4s are P3s with higher clock speeds, but that doesn't sound right, so feel free to yell at me for lying.
I realize that now. I had to reply just in case he was some horribly misguided soul. I was just making sure that the Christian haters knew that we aren't all freaky people who hate science.
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How can you be sure that God's plan is not to see how much we can learn about the universe that he went to such extraordinary lengths to develop. Why would God make semi-conductors if not for humans? Why do you even read slashdot? It's tech news. Everything here will offend you. This is the second time I've replied to your comments so that people don't assume all Christians are like you. God made bacteria. They are not anti-Christian. He also made silicon. He put it everywhere. Why do you assume he doesn't want us to take advantage of the wonderful things he gave us? I have so much more to say, but I won't because you won't listen, and no one else cares. Everyone else, I'm sorry.
That does add another layer of unlikelihood(That is probably not a word. If it is, it is a swear. I should wash my mout out with soap.) The bacteria would also have to survive the force and heat generated when leaving the ground and entering the atmosphere. I'm not saying it can't happen, but I think it's kind of unlikely.
I would never try to force my religion on you. If you asked to know why I believe what I do, I would tell you. I did not ask why you believe what you do. Stop trying to force your lack of religion on me.
Though I am fairly sure you are a troll, as a Christian I won't judge you and will reply. I also assume that you must have meant something besides "if we were created in an explosion, then how did the galaxies form?" If that is what you meant, then here is the answer: Lots of matter at center of universe. Explosion. Particles expand outward really fast. Some collide. The joint particles have stronger gravity. They attract other particles which spiral toward the center in the same way things orbit the Earth. The particles grow into bigger chunks called stars. They fuse. Galaxy is born.
I assume what you meant to ask was "if we were created in an explosion, then how did the stuff that caused the explosion get there?" This is a reasonable question which can be answered partially by quantum physics. It can also be answered by "God did it," and variations on that, which is what seems most reasonable to me.
Reporting on a test of a theory does not imply support of that theory. Any good news source should post all the stuff that happens without bias.
Re:I didn't read the article, but...
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I have no problem with reverse engineering. What I meant by not being able to build a free copy, is that even if one company sees how an engine was built and does it the exact same way, they would still have to charge almost the exact same amount. If you copy someone's source code, alter it slightly to avoid patent infringment, as was done with VTEC, you can give that product away infinately many times, with no cost to you. The company that wrote the code is then screwed real bad. If you reverse engineer something and build a similar product, that's fantastic, but taking someone else's code is wrong. If everyone had to open source their code to show what info it sent out and altered, there would be thousands of slightly altered clones flooding the market which would not benefit the designer of the program at all, assuming it was a valuable program. Even with the VTEC thing, that was mean. You shouldn't take the work of others without their permission. It should be legal, but people should choose not to do it.
Is the Penis Bird accepting contributions such as support for unsupported peripherals(breasts, fingers, etc.)? I think Penis Bird might eventually become useable enough to contend with Microsoft's unreliable, Expensive (as in not free as in beer or speech) alternative. Is there some sort of Bird Council that I can get on?
This be Rapmaster Gates, kickin' it from way up top the Redmond House of Hos. Peace y'all. Out.
Wow! You can actually lose weight with beer? I've been scammed! Dangit. I thought beer-bellies were bad things. I guess they were still in the thinning process... Oh wait. Pounds... England... I forgot.
I'm sorry for the utter stupidity of this post. I'm drunk.
Though I usually try to stay away from GUI programming, I believe they all can tell whether or not they are minimized, and can control their size. They could stop downloading if you minimize. Nothing prevents you from sleepung, unless it required mouse movement, too. That's what one of those pay per hour of banner viewers does. That was easily circumvented, but John Q. Guywhoissecretlyattractedtokittens won't bother to do that. He is busy downloading porn. I think that is the best idea. Of course, RIAA would have to administer it and get all the money, and would probably not support Linux.
You can take a cd in the car, or your living room, or bedroom. Most people don't have computers in every room like some slashdot folks. Even if they do, they might not have a laptop to take in a car with them. CD's are useful almost everywhere. MP3 players are very expensive, especially when most people already have a CD player.
Is your sister really that hot? Also, in response to people who ask why there was no bad affect on Adam and Eve's children's children: Adam lived to be almost a thousand years old. Life spans were halved every few generations. Although that means nothing if you don't really believe the Bible.
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I bet if animals could stop their prey from rotting after death, other animals respected them for having the corpses, and having those corpses made them more desirable as a mate, they would kill for trophies. I think that lower animals just aren't smart enough to realize that lots of corpses means a better provider. Instead they rely on size and weight.
Christians, Jews, and Muslims beleive in the same God. Christians are Jews, Muslims are Christians(sort of). Muslims beleive that Jesus was a prophet, but not the son of God. The reason that people say Judeo-Christian is because they share a God. At the time people started using the word, there were exactly 4 Muslims in western society, none of whom spoke English. Then some of them started blowing our stuff up, so we snubbed them. Plus Muslimo-Judeo-Christian doesn't sound all that great.
It is still worth it. Genocide is no worse than murder. Everyone only has to die once. If knowledge is worth one innocent life, it is worth all of them. Whether or not it is worth one life is a personal choice.
If you took away man's technology for a generation, he would be prey, but he would almost certainly live, because he would rebuild technology. He would figure out how to build a trap and a bow. How can anything that is made entirely from natural sources and is put together using natural forces, possibly be unnatural? Also, I happen to know for a fact that nature created intelligence so that we could clear up all her little mistakes like birds and insects.
I betcha Linux would survive. Even if there was a nuclear war, I'm sure there is a heavily sheilded computer somewhere in Canada that would survive. It might not be turned on, but eventually it would become intelligent and clone us. I hope by then we will have finally one this war with nature.
You don't need a license if you can get it down to 250 pounds, which exist in several forms, but you have to build them yourself.
On behalf of America, I appologize. The problem is that since we have the Simpsons up against our news programs, very few of us find out what's going on in any other countries. After a while, you just forget they are there. Plus, most of us don't really care what happens in other countries, as long as there are no noisemakers thrown our way. Also, other than Canada, which we consider part of our country, we forget that other people know how to speak English. England is way too close to all the places that speak the freaky(non English) languages. Keep in mind that I only speak for a small portion of the unwashed masses. Everyone else probably knows all about the news. Also, we don't have a clue if the English are still riding on horses and wearing armor, worshipping the queen or something. As you can see, I meant none of this, but we are sorry, and we consider most English speakers Americans. I'd like to appologize, also, to anyone who read this comment.
Heeeeeeeell yeah. Everybody go buy a Honda Insight. Those cars is baaaaad-ass. $21,000, 50-70 estimated miles per gallon, but real people get 40-60. The drawback is it's only a two seater, and 0-60 in 11.5. Also it's so light that if an SUV taps you, you'll end up in another zip code, but that's true of any car. At least you can be sure that they will roll over right after they send you into orbit.
Some of us are far too ugly to have children. Screw you pretty people and screw your pretty children. You can't hurt the planet. It isn't alive. Also, it doesn't really matter if the environment changes drastically and lots of things die. Even if every animal can feel, none will have to experience the pain of death more than once. They have to die anyway. In answer to the obvious hypocrisy that some may see in this post: Yes I do think murder is wrong, but the effects of my driving around are completely unpredictable. Maybe one of the poeple who dies of cancer from my pollution would have been the next Hitler. It's not the same as murder. This post is not flaimbait or a troll. I'm sure other people feel the same way. Either way, feel free to moderate me down. I have like -49 karma anyway. Fight the pretty people! Run your air conditioner and heater at the same time.
While reading your comment I noticed you said ""free" energy". I wonder how long it will take Jon Katz to start a ten part series on the evils of closed, proprietary energy as opposed to the open, free as in speech energy that makes us all better people. I think that open energy is important, especially in this post-Columbine era of geek persecution.
Note to moderators: If you're looking at this post and asking yourself if you should moderate this as off topic or save your points for a penis bird, I reccomend moderating me down. After all, it wouldn't be fair to deprive one of those birdies of an audience. Thank you for your time. I'm sorry.
I'm guessing that you have somehow missinterpretted my comment as a troll. If it is, it was not intentional. I did origionally think that it might possibly be a real ai. At the time I had only read the hall of fame topics that attempted to explain the ai. It seemed a reasonable way to simulate intelligence, but they did not seem to be behaving in the same way that their description of the technology would imply. I tried to find other evidence that it was fake. I printed that evidence in reply to several posts asking if this was real ai. In response to your advice, I don't think I was being even a little offensive. If I was, I do not know who I was offending. I also did not care about the number of replies. People seemed to be confused. I thought I would try to help them. For those of you who are reading this post, but don't care if I am a troll or not, I am sorry that you had to read this. I suggest that someone moderate it down so that fewer people have to read it.
And, now that I have read some more of the hall of fame, I realize that this is obviously fake, and I am an idiot for devoting so much time to the above post. I would like to apologize to everyone who read that.
I heard about this thing about an hour ago. I am not completely sure whether or not it is fake, but I believe it is. First, he claims he could not maintain funding because his investors said it wouldn't pay off. There are millions of dollars invested in natural language processing. If this actually worked, we would probably be using SOMADS in our computers now, paying a monthly fee to intelleq(I think that's what his investor was called.)
Second, his paper appears to be entirely based on breaking down sentances and deriving meaning. He mentions nothing about image recognition, but on at least one occasion it shows his persona giving proofs about triangles with pictures demonstrating them in the hall of fame. If their primary information source is the text of newsgroups, these personas should be unable to tell what a picture is of. It might be able to assume the images content through contextual clues, but could not guarantee the content of the image was what they expected. Also it would take another step in programming to let the persona know that pictures can be used to clarify a concept. It doesn't seem to be covered in his paper.
It is also unlikely that a program that got all it's information from newsgroups would be able to tell what was funny and what was not based on sentance structure. I guess it is possible, but I doubt anyone has a clue on how to implement it.
Also, at one point, a new persona (Trinity) is appearantly created during a conversation by another persona. It would probably be fairly dangerous to give personas access to your database to personas, which, in tbe process of learning, could spawn hundreds of senseless personas.
There are probably work-arounds for most, if not all, of the things I said, but I don't think anyone is good enough to do them at this time.
When it is revealed to be real I will be very embarrassed, so I'm hoping it's fake.
The C64 WAS the pinnacle of computing. Also, I think the last innovation intel had was the celeron, and that was a long time ago. I'm not sure, but I think P4s are P3s with higher clock speeds, but that doesn't sound right, so feel free to yell at me for lying.
I realize that now. I had to reply just in case he was some horribly misguided soul. I was just making sure that the Christian haters knew that we aren't all freaky people who hate science.
How can you be sure that God's plan is not to see how much we can learn about the universe that he went to such extraordinary lengths to develop. Why would God make semi-conductors if not for humans? Why do you even read slashdot? It's tech news. Everything here will offend you. This is the second time I've replied to your comments so that people don't assume all Christians are like you. God made bacteria. They are not anti-Christian. He also made silicon. He put it everywhere. Why do you assume he doesn't want us to take advantage of the wonderful things he gave us? I have so much more to say, but I won't because you won't listen, and no one else cares. Everyone else, I'm sorry.
That does add another layer of unlikelihood(That is probably not a word. If it is, it is a swear. I should wash my mout out with soap.) The bacteria would also have to survive the force and heat generated when leaving the ground and entering the atmosphere. I'm not saying it can't happen, but I think it's kind of unlikely.
I would never try to force my religion on you. If you asked to know why I believe what I do, I would tell you. I did not ask why you believe what you do. Stop trying to force your lack of religion on me.
Though I am fairly sure you are a troll, as a Christian I won't judge you and will reply. I also assume that you must have meant something besides "if we were created in an explosion, then how did the galaxies form?" If that is what you meant, then here is the answer: Lots of matter at center of universe. Explosion. Particles expand outward really fast. Some collide. The joint particles have stronger gravity. They attract other particles which spiral toward the center in the same way things orbit the Earth. The particles grow into bigger chunks called stars. They fuse. Galaxy is born.
I assume what you meant to ask was "if we were created in an explosion, then how did the stuff that caused the explosion get there?" This is a reasonable question which can be answered partially by quantum physics. It can also be answered by "God did it," and variations on that, which is what seems most reasonable to me.
Reporting on a test of a theory does not imply support of that theory. Any good news source should post all the stuff that happens without bias.
I have no problem with reverse engineering. What I meant by not being able to build a free copy, is that even if one company sees how an engine was built and does it the exact same way, they would still have to charge almost the exact same amount. If you copy someone's source code, alter it slightly to avoid patent infringment, as was done with VTEC, you can give that product away infinately many times, with no cost to you. The company that wrote the code is then screwed real bad. If you reverse engineer something and build a similar product, that's fantastic, but taking someone else's code is wrong. If everyone had to open source their code to show what info it sent out and altered, there would be thousands of slightly altered clones flooding the market which would not benefit the designer of the program at all, assuming it was a valuable program. Even with the VTEC thing, that was mean. You shouldn't take the work of others without their permission. It should be legal, but people should choose not to do it.
Is the Penis Bird accepting contributions such as support for unsupported peripherals(breasts, fingers, etc.)? I think Penis Bird might eventually become useable enough to contend with Microsoft's unreliable, Expensive (as in not free as in beer or speech) alternative. Is there some sort of Bird Council that I can get on?
This be Rapmaster Gates, kickin' it from way up top the Redmond House of Hos. Peace y'all. Out.
Wow! You can actually lose weight with beer? I've been scammed! Dangit. I thought beer-bellies were bad things. I guess they were still in the thinning process... Oh wait. Pounds... England... I forgot.
I'm sorry for the utter stupidity of this post. I'm drunk.
Though I usually try to stay away from GUI programming, I believe they all can tell whether or not they are minimized, and can control their size. They could stop downloading if you minimize. Nothing prevents you from sleepung, unless it required mouse movement, too. That's what one of those pay per hour of banner viewers does. That was easily circumvented, but John Q. Guywhoissecretlyattractedtokittens won't bother to do that. He is busy downloading porn. I think that is the best idea. Of course, RIAA would have to administer it and get all the money, and would probably not support Linux.
You can take a cd in the car, or your living room, or bedroom. Most people don't have computers in every room like some slashdot folks. Even if they do, they might not have a laptop to take in a car with them. CD's are useful almost everywhere. MP3 players are very expensive, especially when most people already have a CD player.
Is your sister really that hot? Also, in response to people who ask why there was no bad affect on Adam and Eve's children's children: Adam lived to be almost a thousand years old. Life spans were halved every few generations. Although that means nothing if you don't really believe the Bible.