Ok, assuming that most major web surfers are at least somewhat computer literate and have at least heard of Firefox why wouldn't they switch?
Because IE works for them and they don't care to switch? This is the same reason why many computer literate people don't ditch Windows for Linux. If a program or OS works perfectly for your needs there is no reason to switch.
Other then web developers needing to have a copy of IE to test code why would anyone use IE when Chrome, Firefox, Safari, etc are all technologically superior and have more plugins?/quote>
Because not everyone cares about those features or needs them? Just because people use a different web browser than you doesn't make them computer illiterate or not a "major web surfer"
CmdrTaco, you posted this dupe to early as the last one was only posted 8 days ago. You are supposed to wait at least a month before duping. Thank you.
Those geeks you make fun of in high school? The ones that are hyper obsessive with social disorders that spend more time in their room reading than anywhere else? Those are the people running a lot of stuff today.
Outside of a few occasional people like with a Bill Gates, the vast majority of people running things aren't nerds. This is just more of the typical "we are better than those stupid jocks (or insert any other group that is more well socialized than you)" mantra that is in many cases just no true. Being a nerd doesn't make you superior to anyone else.
I'm pretty sure they were referring to only those people who are currently CEOs. Not people who haven't held the position of CEO of a company for 9 years.
That is true especially since the small amount of Java isn't necessary for any of the core functionality of the office suite since all that is written in C++. My post was mostly because people still try to claim after so many years that OO.o is a Java app or it's slow because of Java when the fact of the matter is the slowness and bloat is due to poorly written C++ code.
Also, it's worth noting that this link only exists on Asus's UK site. It's not found on any of their other international websites. Also, other than that single link, there's no information anywhere on any of their websites that makes any reference to an "It's Better With Windows" advertising campaign. Most companies don't build a website just to hide one tiny link to it (with a typo no less â" it should be "www.ItsBetterWithWindows.com") on one page on one of their websites. They generally like to draw attention to it.
Actually as I pointed out above it's also on the Amazon UK product page for it as well.
So go ahead and assume that this is the result of some grand partnership between Asus and Microsoft, even though it could very well simply be the result of a single website administrator inserting an unofficial link to a poorly-designed website (or any of a number of other reasonable explanations).
I never said it was some grand partnership between them. But the very fact that it's linked from an Asus page and on the Amazon page for the same product means that Asus had to have some part in it.
Face it. Neither of us knows for sure whether Asus or Microsoft were involved with this website, but the evidence is very strongly against it.
Your assertions that they had nothing to do with it aren't evidence.
Exactly. When I was in college all the comic book stores and anime shops nearby all had a guy running it who was basically a clone of Comic Book Guy. Fat, smelly, hairy and repulsive to pretty much all females.
Oh, and I doubt that if the link was wrong it would also be included in the Amazon page for the same model netbook as well. You're basically grasping at straws.
Has it occurred to you that the link may have been hijacked?
No, but it has occurred to me that you are just making shit up because you were shown to be wrong. Put up the evidence that the link was hijacked or admit you were wrong.
I'm not going to install Java (and most OO.o extensions are in Java) just to have some fancy bit of extra functionality.
Did you miss the part where the KOffice extensions can be written in Java?
Neither KOffice nor FireFox require me to install 250MB of Java bloat (in addition to one already packaged with OO.o) to simply access the functionality.
250 megs? Lie much? I have 2 versions of the JRE on my machine and they only clock in barely at 100 megs combined. Unless you are installing the full JDK (and why would you be installing the JDK if you only need the JRE?) there is no way you are installing an extra 250 megs.
It may be a stereotype but if you walk into most comic book/anime stores and look around at the people in them, the vast majority will match up to the stereotype.
Almost as naive as the people who actually believe that this site was created by Microsoft and Asus.
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You can use OO.o just fine without any JRE. The very few parts that are written in Java are features most people don't need. You're must either be a troll or stupid since OO.o is a C++ application.
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Exactly. If a person is perfectly satisfied with what they are using they have no incentive to switch.
Does a baseball player stop being refered to as a baseball player after they retire?
Yes, they are usually referred to as being a "former baseball player".
chances are almost every computer has at least one alternate browser other than IE installed, it might not be used, but it would still be installed,
More made-up nonsense.
Ok, assuming that most major web surfers are at least somewhat computer literate and have at least heard of Firefox why wouldn't they switch?
Because IE works for them and they don't care to switch? This is the same reason why many computer literate people don't ditch Windows for Linux. If a program or OS works perfectly for your needs there is no reason to switch.
Other then web developers needing to have a copy of IE to test code why would anyone use IE when Chrome, Firefox, Safari, etc are all technologically superior and have more plugins?/quote> Because not everyone cares about those features or needs them? Just because people use a different web browser than you doesn't make them computer illiterate or not a "major web surfer"
but then again most people who use IE usually aren't major web surfers.
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CmdrTaco, you posted this dupe to early as the last one was only posted 8 days ago. You are supposed to wait at least a month before duping. Thank you.
Awww, this pathetic attempt at insulting me was so cute. Maybe you should bring your mom down to the basement so she can read it too.
Those geeks you make fun of in high school? The ones that are hyper obsessive with social disorders that spend more time in their room reading than anywhere else? Those are the people running a lot of stuff today.
Outside of a few occasional people like with a Bill Gates, the vast majority of people running things aren't nerds. This is just more of the typical "we are better than those stupid jocks (or insert any other group that is more well socialized than you)" mantra that is in many cases just no true. Being a nerd doesn't make you superior to anyone else.
What child? It's pencil scratchings on a piece of paper.
So from that I wouldn't say it was a stereotype - I'd say it was an accurate depiction.
Something being a stereotype has nothing to do with whether it is true or not.
I'm pretty sure they were referring to only those people who are currently CEOs. Not people who haven't held the position of CEO of a company for 9 years.
Bill Gates has better name recognition than Jobs, if only because his philanthropy reaches so many more people than Jobs' work does.
Of what tech company is Bill Gates a CEO of? I'm pretty sure he stopped being the CEO of Microsoft back in 2000 when Steve Ballmer took over.
That is true especially since the small amount of Java isn't necessary for any of the core functionality of the office suite since all that is written in C++. My post was mostly because people still try to claim after so many years that OO.o is a Java app or it's slow because of Java when the fact of the matter is the slowness and bloat is due to poorly written C++ code.
Also, it's worth noting that this link only exists on Asus's UK site. It's not found on any of their other international websites. Also, other than that single link, there's no information anywhere on any of their websites that makes any reference to an "It's Better With Windows" advertising campaign. Most companies don't build a website just to hide one tiny link to it (with a typo no less â" it should be "www.ItsBetterWithWindows.com") on one page on one of their websites. They generally like to draw attention to it.
Actually as I pointed out above it's also on the Amazon UK product page for it as well.
So go ahead and assume that this is the result of some grand partnership between Asus and Microsoft, even though it could very well simply be the result of a single website administrator inserting an unofficial link to a poorly-designed website (or any of a number of other reasonable explanations).
I never said it was some grand partnership between them. But the very fact that it's linked from an Asus page and on the Amazon page for the same product means that Asus had to have some part in it.
Face it. Neither of us knows for sure whether Asus or Microsoft were involved with this website, but the evidence is very strongly against it.
Your assertions that they had nothing to do with it aren't evidence.
This should be applauded, not lauded.
So I should praise it but also not praise it? Huh?
Whoosh?
Unabashedly buying comics and Japanese cartoons.
Exactly. When I was in college all the comic book stores and anime shops nearby all had a guy running it who was basically a clone of Comic Book Guy. Fat, smelly, hairy and repulsive to pretty much all females.
It makes it especially difficult in this case, since we *are* better than the funnybook cranks.
Yeah keep telling yourself that. Some day it will be true.
Oh, and I doubt that if the link was wrong it would also be included in the Amazon page for the same model netbook as well. You're basically grasping at straws.
Has it occurred to you that the link may have been hijacked?
No, but it has occurred to me that you are just making shit up because you were shown to be wrong. Put up the evidence that the link was hijacked or admit you were wrong.
I'm not going to install Java (and most OO.o extensions are in Java) just to have some fancy bit of extra functionality.
Did you miss the part where the KOffice extensions can be written in Java?
Neither KOffice nor FireFox require me to install 250MB of Java bloat (in addition to one already packaged with OO.o) to simply access the functionality.
250 megs? Lie much? I have 2 versions of the JRE on my machine and they only clock in barely at 100 megs combined. Unless you are installing the full JDK (and why would you be installing the JDK if you only need the JRE?) there is no way you are installing an extra 250 megs.
It may be a stereotype but if you walk into most comic book/anime stores and look around at the people in them, the vast majority will match up to the stereotype.
Almost as naive as the people who actually believe that this site was created by Microsoft and Asus.
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Yep, Asus had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of this website and that's why they link to it from their own site. FAIL.
I refuse t use OO (too much Java)
You can use OO.o just fine without any JRE. The very few parts that are written in Java are features most people don't need. You're must either be a troll or stupid since OO.o is a C++ application.