Excuse me but I'd rather not have you guys as the world's cop. GWB seems to think force is the only way to solve problems. With that attitude and his irresponsible statements he's done a lot of damage to international relationships.
I work for a company which has enough licenses for all software we're using. However, it'd be a nightmare to hunt down each and every of them in case of a BSA raid.
Many companies in our situation don't want to go through all that. They choose to pay more just to save effort.
I think the full implications of what MS has allowed to happen is going to felt more and more as real users suddenly understand that MS basically does not care about its users.
People won't realise. Just look at the news. Not a single newspaper is asking why MS aggressively kept selling an OS they knew was insecure. People just concentrate on patching their computers and are happy for the old good Microsoft for a FAST fix.
This case should be documented. Each and every press release from Microsoft should be investigated. "In this ad you claim XP to be most secure ever. And this was one week AFTER you knew of the hole. Please explain."
I think the full implications of what MS has allowed to happen is going to felt more and more as real users suddenly understand that MS basically does not care about its users.
Microsoft has known for five weeks that XP had a serious security hole. They didn't do anything to warn customers who bought XP during that time. They just kept telling how XP is so secure.
It's unbeliavable what Microsoft can get away with. I don't think the hole and the patch are the important issues here. I'm shocked how Microsoft can lie to the whole world for five weeks and people still trust them.
Microsoft should have withdrawn XP and fixed it. Expecially as they don't even have any serious competitors. What they showed was that they don't care about the safety of their customers. They just want to make money no matter what.
You can argue that it's not a very good idea to give too much information of a hole before a patch exists. Especially if the software is widely used.
But this was new software which Microsoft has been happily selling for the last five weeks knowing that there is a big security hole.
The minimum they should have done is to tell right away that XP has a security hole and that it's unsafe to connect it to the internet.
If they acted responsibly, they should have stopped the sales, fixed the hole and rereleased. It's expansive but the security of all those clients should be more important. Especially as Microsoft has the money to do that.
Can you sue if you get attacked thanks to this hole and you have bought XP within last five weeks? Microsoft knew about the risk but ignored your safety? I sure hope some will as I'd hate see any company get away with this.
You're comparing QWERTY to a totally different designed optimal keyboard layout. If you want to replace QWERTY, you have to evolve it slowly towards what users want. Users don't want a totally redesigned layout but they sure like small changes.
Don't we all have to endure some really bad CS classes? The worst programmer I ever had working for me is now teaching at a university. After we fired him for just not being able to write any useful code. This guy believed in design and had extensive knowledge but it just didn't help.
Linus is not saying that nobody did any thinking. People sure did thinking but it small scale. Nobody did any large scale design. So Linux is just about combining the best ideas of a large number of individuals.
Bridge building has also had tens of thousands of years of trial and error which surely helps. Another thing is competition: There's none in bridge building AFTER you've got the contract. Nobody is going to build another bridge next to it to see if they can make a better one.
Linus is saying that Linux is evolving through countless small decisions. There is no One Big Plan. There are just ideas that are thought of. There's lots of code that is written. Some of it get into the kernel, some doesn't but gives new ideas for better design.
If you'd read through the whole discussion, you'd notice how computer science was compared to alchemy. It's a young science that has years to go before genetices can be applied. And we still have years and years of research that has to be done before we understand genetics. There's lots of trial and error being done there too.
Actually Windows has evolved a lot. Just look how much it has changed since Windows 3.1. It sure succeeds because of marketing and aggressive business tactics but that's only helping. MS wouldn't be able to compete against Linux with only Windows 3.1 no matter how aggressive they's be. So don't underestimate the effort behind developing Windows.
Actually Windows evolved towards what people wanted in the nineties. But since Windows 98 it has also had Word Domination-plan which is not good for Windows in the long run. But as Microsoft has loads of cash, they can afford trial and error as long as they learn from their mistakes. And that's one thing they are good at.
Thanks for the credit but it was really easy as CLX is so close to VCL. The guys as Borland have succeeded really well in hiding all the quirks of winapi and qt. As long as you don't use much of winapi (and why should you?), you're pretty safe.
I've ported a pretty big non-gui app. It was pretty easy. Moving from Delphi's old sockets to Indy was the biggest thing. Then I just wrote higher class classes, wrapped all the Windows api stuff in those and made a WinStuff-unit out of them. A similar one for Linux. Then some ifdefs for units and done. Now the project compiles without changes in Delphi 5 and Kylix 1.
I hear it's even easier with Delphi 6 but haven't felt like upgrading yet.
He has previous form, basically. Remember Lockerbie?
Yes. That's why I mentioned that I don't know what went to him at that time. However, it was in 1988, more than ten years ago and he has clearly shown that he has changed and doesn't support terrorism any more.
I know this would be extremely hard to those who lost their loved ones but even the modern history is full of violences committed by countries. The west forgave China for their massacre of Tiananmen in 1989. USA has also supported some revolutions. Some bloody, some less bloody. So why can't Libya and Cuba be forgiven?
To me it looks like those embargo were started because of a good reason but they are now totally forgotten. I guess certain communities in Florida would also hate the idea of lifting the embargo on Cuba. It shouldn't be that way.
Well, let's really not forget Libya. Is the embargo still on? Maybe it'd be worth having a look there and re-evaluate it a bit.
Gaddafi is one of the most level headed leaders in the whole Africa. I frankly don't know what went to him 10 years ago but since then the guy has really grown a brain and uses it well. I wished people would also use theirs before speculating about Gaddafi's part in the WTC attacks. That's absolutely irresponsible and repulsive.
Many don't know this but Gaddafi despises religious fundamentalists and discriminating against women. There's a good article on the National Geographic about Libya some six months ago. Go and read it to find out more. To me it sounds like he's singlehanded done as much as possible to fight terrorism in his country.
IMHO it's time to lift the embargo on Libya. I'd also want to ask why in the God's name can't USA lift the embargo on Cuba? I know it might be a huge humiliation to have to to that but Cuba is really not a threath.
The world is a lot bigger than USA. Great Britain, the former Soviet Union, Russia and Israel have. Some of them actually still do.
Bin Laden doesn't have a country per se, but he does have a lot of countries that indirectly -- or even directly -- support him. I don't think it's a stretch to say that he is a military arm of several countries.
Over 40 countries have individuals who support bin Laden. That includes even Sweden who doesn't have any possibilities to restrict the free speech rights of those people. Are you going to attack all those 40 counties?
You also say how I'm racist because I say that anger fuels terrorism. You only have to look no further than at the reactions in USA after the attack to WTC. 5000 people died and millions of educated and reasonable people are ready to support more violence. Enlistments to US army are also higher and many of those guys stated that the reason is revenge. This all happens in a peaceful country.
I took that example because we all are the same. "The free world" can't stomach the deaths of 5000 people. If the retaliation ends up killing innocent people (and it will), don't be surprised if there's a similar reaction to those killings.
Hitler is invading neighbors, and for whatever reason is seething with hate. What is your solution for stopping him?
My solution is to stop him with force. This is what had to be done in the Gulf war too. (The coalition should only have fought it until the end but that's hindsight now.)
The great flaw in your thinking is that you think these are reasonable people that are just fighting a war.
No, not at all. These are not reasonable people at all. The terrorists are fanatics. I wonder where you got the impression that I think of them as reasonable people?
You think that terrorism can be destroyed by force. If you'd study history, it has never succeeded. Firstly, the enemy is hidden, so you have no idea whatsoever, who's a terrorist and who's not. Secondly, that force creates anger and that anger fuels terrorism.
Like you said, Hitler had a country and bin Laden doesn't. The difference is colossal and ignoring it is a big mistake.
Let me be very clear that I don't think the way I'm going to write. But let's rephrase your message and have a look at what people on the other side may think after the future attacks. Note that the first and last chapters are totally unchanged and only a few words had to be changed:
Hmm, I want to retaliate but I do not feel hate or revenge. However, in this case, retaliation is required. This is war and the blood of the victims cries out for justice. Ignoring the issue won't make it go away. We must eliminate these people so that this will not happen again, and so that all of the victims did not die in vain. I suppose you don't understand these concepts.
Hmm, I don't recall Afghanistan sending any cruise missiles and killing thousands of innocents. Since these terrorists have declared war on muslim countries, and since the government there harbors them, I believe the people of America have already made the decision theirselves and can suffer any consequences of such.
Oh, I am sure peace is going to end terrorism. No, its just going to give them a blank check to go kill whoever they want since nobody will ever bring them to justice. Get a clue
Bottom line: Any violent attack which kills innocent people will bring about exactly same feelings of hate that the attack last tuesday brought. The gap between USA and these people will widen and that will be counterproductive as that gap is the problem that causes these attacks.
Let me start by condemning the horrible terrorist attack against WTC and Pentagon. Keep in mind that I mourn for the deaths of those 5000 innocent people when you read my post. I don't know if you are ready to read what I'm going to say but I hope you can understand that I'm worried and I have to say this.
Because of the deaths of these 5000 people, 71% (according to a poll) of americans want revenge and support bombing of another country. Bombing, that will most likely kill more than 5000 innocent people.
USA is a great country with peaceloving and intelligent people. However, most of you feel hate and want blood as revenge. There has even been stories on CNN how many people want to join the army and risk their lives to retaliate.
No think about it. How can you expect people in Afghanistan to not react the same way you do? How can you expect them to silently accept the death of their loved ones without wanting revenge?
Please, go out and talk about peace. Get your leaders to understand that violence creates more violence. Don't let the world slip into a storm of hate.
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Excuse me but I'd rather not have you guys as the world's cop. GWB seems to think force is the only way to solve problems. With that attitude and his irresponsible statements he's done a lot of damage to international relationships.
Why "illusion"? Kylix is very compatible with Delphi.
I work for a company which has enough licenses for all software we're using. However, it'd be a nightmare to hunt down each and every of them in case of a BSA raid.
Many companies in our situation don't want to go through all that. They choose to pay more just to save effort.
Argh... mod that other one down.
I think the full implications of what MS has allowed to happen is going to felt more and more as real users suddenly understand that MS basically does not care about its users.
People won't realise. Just look at the news. Not a single newspaper is asking why MS aggressively kept selling an OS they knew was insecure. People just concentrate on patching their computers and are happy for the old good Microsoft for a FAST fix.
This case should be documented. Each and every press release from Microsoft should be investigated. "In this ad you claim XP to be most secure ever. And this was one week AFTER you knew of the hole. Please explain."
I think the full implications of what MS has allowed to happen is going to felt more and more as real users suddenly understand that MS basically does not care about its users.
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Microsoft has known for five weeks that XP had a serious security hole. They didn't do anything to warn customers who bought XP during that time. They just kept telling how XP is so secure.
It's unbeliavable what Microsoft can get away with. I don't think the hole and the patch are the important issues here. I'm shocked how Microsoft can lie to the whole world for five weeks and people still trust them.
Microsoft should have withdrawn XP and fixed it. Expecially as they don't even have any serious competitors. What they showed was that they don't care about the safety of their customers. They just want to make money no matter what.
You can argue that it's not a very good idea to give too much information of a hole before a patch exists. Especially if the software is widely used. But this was new software which Microsoft has been happily selling for the last five weeks knowing that there is a big security hole.
The minimum they should have done is to tell right away that XP has a security hole and that it's unsafe to connect it to the internet.
If they acted responsibly, they should have stopped the sales, fixed the hole and rereleased. It's expansive but the security of all those clients should be more important. Especially as Microsoft has the money to do that.
Can you sue if you get attacked thanks to this hole and you have bought XP within last five weeks? Microsoft knew about the risk but ignored your safety? I sure hope some will as I'd hate see any company get away with this.
Root of the system? What do you mean?
/etc where your configuration data is stored!"
"This is
Why is it called etc?
/usr - you'll find the actual programs and more there!"
"This is
Why is it called usr? Are there more programs in proc?
"But this is your Home/My Documents/Desktop. There are others similar to yours, but this one is yours."
Why do I have a desktop inside my documents? Sholdn't the documents be on the desktop? And so many of them? This is so complicated.
"However, it doesn't sit on top of the rest of the system!"
What top? What was the root again?
I have news for you. You really don't need IE in order to use the internet. I've never trusted IE enough to use it.
Mozilla nightly builds have worked just fine for more than a year for me. Before that I only used Netscape Communicator.
(4) Uninstall IE
(5) Install Opera, Netscape or Mozilla
You're comparing QWERTY to a totally different designed optimal keyboard layout. If you want to replace QWERTY, you have to evolve it slowly towards what users want. Users don't want a totally redesigned layout but they sure like small changes.
Don't we all have to endure some really bad CS classes? The worst programmer I ever had working for me is now teaching at a university. After we fired him for just not being able to write any useful code. This guy believed in design and had extensive knowledge but it just didn't help.
Linus is not saying that nobody did any thinking. People sure did thinking but it small scale. Nobody did any large scale design. So Linux is just about combining the best ideas of a large number of individuals.
Bridge building has also had tens of thousands of years of trial and error which surely helps. Another thing is competition: There's none in bridge building AFTER you've got the contract. Nobody is going to build another bridge next to it to see if they can make a better one.
My turn to bite :-)
Linus is saying that Linux is evolving through countless small decisions. There is no One Big Plan. There are just ideas that are thought of. There's lots of code that is written. Some of it get into the kernel, some doesn't but gives new ideas for better design.
If you'd read through the whole discussion, you'd notice how computer science was compared to alchemy. It's a young science that has years to go before genetices can be applied. And we still have years and years of research that has to be done before we understand genetics. There's lots of trial and error being done there too.
Actually Windows has evolved a lot. Just look how much it has changed since Windows 3.1. It sure succeeds because of marketing and aggressive business tactics but that's only helping. MS wouldn't be able to compete against Linux with only Windows 3.1 no matter how aggressive they's be. So don't underestimate the effort behind developing Windows.
Actually Windows evolved towards what people wanted in the nineties. But since Windows 98 it has also had Word Domination-plan which is not good for Windows in the long run. But as Microsoft has loads of cash, they can afford trial and error as long as they learn from their mistakes. And that's one thing they are good at.
Thanks for the credit but it was really easy as CLX is so close to VCL. The guys as Borland have succeeded really well in hiding all the quirks of winapi and qt. As long as you don't use much of winapi (and why should you?), you're pretty safe.
I've ported a pretty big non-gui app. It was pretty easy. Moving from Delphi's old sockets to Indy was the biggest thing. Then I just wrote higher class classes, wrapped all the Windows api stuff in those and made a WinStuff-unit out of them. A similar one for Linux. Then some ifdefs for units and done. Now the project compiles without changes in Delphi 5 and Kylix 1.
I hear it's even easier with Delphi 6 but haven't felt like upgrading yet.
Borland has told in their newsgroups that there will be a Kylix update. So no need to buy Kylix 2 if you just want a bugfix.
That warning could also be a pre-arranged message to field agents. A certain warning could be plan Z...
Sheesh... just read the security section of Linux Weekly News every thursday and you're more than safe.
Yes. That's why I mentioned that I don't know what went to him at that time. However, it was in 1988, more than ten years ago and he has clearly shown that he has changed and doesn't support terrorism any more.
I know this would be extremely hard to those who lost their loved ones but even the modern history is full of violences committed by countries. The west forgave China for their massacre of Tiananmen in 1989. USA has also supported some revolutions. Some bloody, some less bloody. So why can't Libya and Cuba be forgiven?
To me it looks like those embargo were started because of a good reason but they are now totally forgotten. I guess certain communities in Florida would also hate the idea of lifting the embargo on Cuba. It shouldn't be that way.
Well, let's really not forget Libya. Is the embargo still on? Maybe it'd be worth having a look there and re-evaluate it a bit.
Gaddafi is one of the most level headed leaders in the whole Africa. I frankly don't know what went to him 10 years ago but since then the guy has really grown a brain and uses it well. I wished people would also use theirs before speculating about Gaddafi's part in the WTC attacks. That's absolutely irresponsible and repulsive.
Many don't know this but Gaddafi despises religious fundamentalists and discriminating against women. There's a good article on the National Geographic about Libya some six months ago. Go and read it to find out more. To me it sounds like he's singlehanded done as much as possible to fight terrorism in his country.
IMHO it's time to lift the embargo on Libya. I'd also want to ask why in the God's name can't USA lift the embargo on Cuba? I know it might be a huge humiliation to have to to that but Cuba is really not a threath.
To be frank, we have never tried
The world is a lot bigger than USA. Great Britain, the former Soviet Union, Russia and Israel have. Some of them actually still do.
Bin Laden doesn't have a country per se, but he does have a lot of countries that indirectly -- or even directly -- support him. I don't think it's a stretch to say that he is a military arm of several countries.
Over 40 countries have individuals who support bin Laden. That includes even Sweden who doesn't have any possibilities to restrict the free speech rights of those people. Are you going to attack all those 40 counties?
You also say how I'm racist because I say that anger fuels terrorism. You only have to look no further than at the reactions in USA after the attack to WTC. 5000 people died and millions of educated and reasonable people are ready to support more violence. Enlistments to US army are also higher and many of those guys stated that the reason is revenge. This all happens in a peaceful country.
I took that example because we all are the same. "The free world" can't stomach the deaths of 5000 people. If the retaliation ends up killing innocent people (and it will), don't be surprised if there's a similar reaction to those killings.
Hitler is invading neighbors, and for whatever reason is seething with hate. What is your solution for stopping him?
My solution is to stop him with force. This is what had to be done in the Gulf war too. (The coalition should only have fought it until the end but that's hindsight now.)
The great flaw in your thinking is that you think these are reasonable people that are just fighting a war.
No, not at all. These are not reasonable people at all. The terrorists are fanatics. I wonder where you got the impression that I think of them as reasonable people?
You think that terrorism can be destroyed by force. If you'd study history, it has never succeeded. Firstly, the enemy is hidden, so you have no idea whatsoever, who's a terrorist and who's not. Secondly, that force creates anger and that anger fuels terrorism.
Like you said, Hitler had a country and bin Laden doesn't. The difference is colossal and ignoring it is a big mistake.
Let me be very clear that I don't think the way I'm going to write. But let's rephrase your message and have a look at what people on the other side may think after the future attacks. Note that the first and last chapters are totally unchanged and only a few words had to be changed:
Hmm, I want to retaliate but I do not feel hate or revenge. However, in this case, retaliation is required. This is war and the blood of the victims cries out for justice. Ignoring the issue won't make it go away. We must eliminate these people so that this will not happen again, and so that all of the victims did not die in vain. I suppose you don't understand these concepts.
Hmm, I don't recall Afghanistan sending any cruise missiles and killing thousands of innocents. Since these terrorists have declared war on muslim countries, and since the government there harbors them, I believe the people of America have already made the decision theirselves and can suffer any consequences of such.
Oh, I am sure peace is going to end terrorism. No, its just going to give them a blank check to go kill whoever they want since nobody will ever bring them to justice. Get a clue
Bottom line: Any violent attack which kills innocent people will bring about exactly same feelings of hate that the attack last tuesday brought. The gap between USA and these people will widen and that will be counterproductive as that gap is the problem that causes these attacks.
Let me start by condemning the horrible terrorist attack against WTC and Pentagon. Keep in mind that I mourn for the deaths of those 5000 innocent people when you read my post. I don't know if you are ready to read what I'm going to say but I hope you can understand that I'm worried and I have to say this.
Because of the deaths of these 5000 people, 71% (according to a poll) of americans want revenge and support bombing of another country. Bombing, that will most likely kill more than 5000 innocent people.
USA is a great country with peaceloving and intelligent people. However, most of you feel hate and want blood as revenge. There has even been stories on CNN how many people want to join the army and risk their lives to retaliate.
No think about it. How can you expect people in Afghanistan to not react the same way you do? How can you expect them to silently accept the death of their loved ones without wanting revenge?
Please, go out and talk about peace. Get your leaders to understand that violence creates more violence. Don't let the world slip into a storm of hate.