6 searches on bugzilla and I still can't find the bug report you must have submitted. Either I can't use bugzilla or then you haven't filed a report.
If you haven't, go do it right away.
Oh, Mozilla's GUI is slow on Linux. I hope it catches up soon. Mozilla on WinNT is fast and already my primary browser. Didn't test that libc.html on it, though.
You guys need a two round election. If no-one gets 50% in the first round, the second round would be between the two who got most votes.
And cut this voting system involving electoral votes. Just vote on the person and count the votes. Or at least don't give the whole state to the winner.
CNN runs a story about Transmeta's IPO. In the story thet say how Transmeta is the first IPO since September to double it's IPO proce on it's first day of trade.
No, I don't use Mail/News on Mozilla. I have occasionally tried the newsreader. It works, though the list scrolling is slow. As the same code handles mail there shouldn't be to big problems handling huge mailboxes. If there are, it would be valuable help to report them.
But back up your mail before giving it a try:-). Oh, and check the build bar on Mozillazine to see which builds are good ones to test.
Well here's mine. I've been using Mozilla nightly builds as my main browser for close to a month. It renders sites beautifully. Way better than the old Netscape 4.
Also people should notice that Mozilla/Netscape 6 can be patched later. So it's really not a big deal if the first one is not perfect. Rendering all those standards and doing it right is not easy but Mozilla does it nicely already.
I think they do have a point. Like several people pointed out on Mozillazine, Mr. Flanagan is complaining that the the most standard-compliant browser is not compliant enough. Someone even called this Bugzilla abuse as nobody gets to see Microsoft's uncensored bug database.
Mozilla is a big project and it's pretty useless for outsiders to decide what should be fixed next. There's a lot of bugs to fix and features to create and only those programmers know what to do next.
I also think that Mozillazine is right in distancing themselves from Netscape 6. Mozilla is another project and the decision makers are not same. Netscape 6 will be released sooner while Mozilla will continue to evolve until it's rock solid.
While I'm writing this I'd like to bring up an alarming thing about Mozilla. After testing a lot of nighly builds, I have to say that the Linux builds are not nearly as far as Win32 builds. I'd love to see more contribution to the Linux development. If you don't have the skills and time to hack code, download nighly builds, report bugs and confirm old ones. It does help creating Mozilla the best browser there is. Complaining and jokes about Mozilla being dead won't.
I went to Mozillazine to read that article. The guy has a point. It sucks to get flames when you're developing as well and fast as you can. Especially from people who haven't contributed a single line of code to this Open Source project.
Having said that, go and contribute. Fork the damn thing if you have such a problem trusting these people. Or go use some other program.
The Mozilla guys don't own you anything. They don't work for you and they certainly don't have to prove themselves to a whiner like you.
I checked the site thanks to a link from LinuxToday. It looked nice and it did have a source download plus you could log on to mailing lists.
Anyway, the code doesn't contain the browser, mail and news. Sun's waiting for the community's opinions on including them as Mozilla is available. I also remember reading how all the commits will go through the project leaders aka Sun's employees. Unless Sun'll do as good a job as Netscape, I doubt that OpenOffice will remain the center of StarOffice development.
I just tried M18 on Linux. After using nightly builds on NT I have to say that there's a huge difference. The Linux version is lagging badly. It's slower and there's clearly more missing functionality. Even the skin is different.
If I remember correctly, there's more Win32 developers working on Mozilla than developers on Linux. I guess Mozilla could use some more contribution from Linux hackers.
This is cool. Now we even have trolls submitting stories. How can I mark the story as -1 flamebait?
MSIE is not open source, bad Microsoft, bad bad..
Mozilla is open source, bugs, bugs, bad, bad
Sometimes I think that nothing is good enough for some people. You're damned if you don't release your source code and you're damned if you develop your software openly giving full access to CVS.
Mozilla bashers should really look deep in the mirror. www.mozilla.org, www.mozillazine.org and especially bugzilla.mozilla.org contain everything you need to know about Mozilla. You can find out why the tarballs are big (several skins, debugging code), why the memory footprint is big (not optimized yet) and what bugs are still to be fixed (a lot). If you're lazy, stop by at #mozilla on IRC and ask. You'll get a fast answer, I guarantee you.
People, understand your responsibility. Go find out before climbing on a soap box and starting to complain. All this complaining about Mozilla crashing will hurt it's reputation. And Mozilla or Netscape is not to be blamed for it. Mozilla has been pre-alpha, alpha or beta all the time. Any programmer knows that it's still far away from a rock solid Mozilla 1.0.
However, I do use Mozilla more than Netscape now. I love Mozilla's speed on NT and how it renders correctly pages that the old Netscape can't even dream about. That's very nice for a beta-version, isn't it? Let's see how the memory footprint and stability is in another six months or a year.
The bottom line still is that Mozilla looks good. It has got a lot faster lately. It's getting better and better every week and when it's ready, it will be fabulous. I just hope that this Mozilla bashing won't give it a bad rep so that people won't even try the final product.
Oh yes, and those very few people are not consumers then I suppose?
Quite frankly, if there's only a small percentage, why in the world can't the insurance companies take the risk? They are supposed to offer security in exchange for out money, aren't they?
OTOH, if the percentage is big, then it's really not "good for consumers." Or actually... it depends on which group you belong to...
It's weird to see all this Mozilla bashing going on. Yes, it has taken a long time and yes, it's not read yet but how many of you Mozilla bashers have really given Mozilla a try? A good one instead of "it segfaulted at startup, so it sucks"?
Netscape PR3 won't be installed on my computer. Nope, I really don't need all the AOL stuff. That's why I have been downloading Mozilla daily builds and actually use them more than the old Netscape. And let me tell you, the latest builds have been impressive in both speed and stability.
So here's how you should do it. Go to Mozillazine and check the build bar there. Go read the comments and choose a nice build. That way you can actually choose not to download a bad build. If one of those crashes too much, delete your.mozilla-directory. Chances are you have an old one which is not necessarily compatible.
That's it. Oh, and don't only talk the talk. Walk the walk and submit bugs instead of just complaining about beta-versions.
Even though I won't buy Opera, it's nice to see some competition. I strongly suspect they will have a hard time with Mozilla, though.
The language and/or IDE seems suspect in a few areas? Can't you really be more precise than that?
I come from a very strong VB background before moving to Delphi. I just couldn't continue with VB and let me tell you a few reasons:
First, speed. VB apps are dead slow. They may get some impressing numbers in carefully chosen benchmarks but otherwise it's a lot slower than Delphi. In anything heavier I got up to 10 times speedup by moving to Delphi. For example, get the ascii value of a char in a string. Delphi just gets the value with aString[index] while in basic you have to asc(mid$(aString$,index,1)) resulting in creation of temp string.
Second, braindead decisions. VB stores all strings internally in unicode. Try to send a string to a dll and you'll see how VB first converts the string to ansi. If you send an array, each and every string in that array are converted. That's a huge penalty and there's just no way you can change that.
Third, you can't do anything even a bit more advanced without kludges while Delphi provides clean ways to do anything. You just get used to working past the problems without understanding how dreadful that makes your code.
In the end, I hated myself for not changing earlier. Delphi gives you the same variable length strings that VB-programmers love. The syntax is not that much different either so it's easy to start. But when you understand the component model and learn real object oriented programming, Delphi is just wonderful. VB can never get there.
So, blame that programmer for spaghetti code and don't blame the tool.
I've spent the last 1,5 years programming in Delphi and it rocks. I love the language. It's easy to learn, produces fast and small executables and helps producing high quality apps.
People coming from a Visual Basic background will notice that that Delphi is just as easy but it's a lot faster and really made the right way. The class libraries make sense and you can create new components really easy. After programming a few years in VB, there's no way I'll go back to the old monster.
Delphi is also a lot easier than C. The language helps you avoid errors. I suppose Object Pascal is a good language to learn before C(++)
But the greatest thing about Delphi will be Kylix. It will be a pleasure to port our software for Linux. I really think Borland did a great decision. Kylix will give them a good start as Linux still lacks Visual Basic. It can really become the state of the art RAD tool for Linux and that will also help them gain markets in the Windows world.
Oh, you may also want to have a look at Lazarus, which is open source. It looks like Kylix will be ready first but Lazarus and the Free Pascal Compiler look good. I already use FPC for small apps and hope to get a strong alternative for Kylix which would boost competition and quality in both.
I don't like the idea of totally untrackable access. Freenet gives the perfect tool for spreading copyrighted software and music. While many think that it serves them right, it is illegal no matter how much that software or music costs.
But I'm even more concerned about child pornography and other dark sides of man. If those sickos can't be tracked, we've just created the perfect tool for child abusers. And frankly, I can't believe that this kind of freedom or anonymity is more important than human rights of the victims of these criminals.
Personal feelings aside, Freenet is also dangerous to the internet. As much as some people would love it, the society can never be free. If you want a safe society, you have to compromise a bit with your own privacy. The politicians and authorities know this and want to keep it this way. So if Internet suddenly becomes totally anonymous, there will be legislation and international agreements to bad all anonymous internet traffic. It will be severly restricted and all rogue countries will be banned. Just look at the land mines to get an idea.
Many people underestimate badly the need to run Windows apps. We're not only talking about office software here. We're talking about thousands of small utilities or custom made programs that are written for Windows to do some small task. At our company there's already several of them.
What Wine lets us do is to run those small programs and concentrate on writing the newest ones for Linux. But we won't port the old ones because it would take a lot of time which we don't have.
So before you put Wine down, remember that changing OS at work places is a huge task. Changing all those small programs on top of that is just a gigantic task and won't happen unless there's a big reason. And the difference between Linux and NT is not big enough.
Weird way of getting attention to a bug. Anyway, you can vote for bugs in Bugzilla to mark most important bugs to fix. So far this bug has only got one vote but I also don't think that Slashdot effect should be used to emphasize one bug over others. Just make a search to find other and more fatal bugs.
Unfortunately Nokia is not any more immune against big corporation problems than Intel. In every big company there's at least one sucky boss. If it's not your boss then it's somebody else's.
It all comes down to individuals. You only need one awful person with power to pollute a healthy working environment. He/she will cause a lot of trouble. As a result skillful people search for a new job. The only ones who are left are used to abuse or carry on the tradition.
Thanks to these kinds of bosses I've got two wonderful employees who couldn't take it at their old workplaces. Both left a gaping hole in their organisation but nothing else changed.
Metallica putting a big chill on free software, open source and free movement of information and ideas? Since when has exchanging of mp3s been about that? It's more about pirating and copying copyrighted material than actually creating something new. And open source is really about creating and shearing and not about stealing other people's creations.
I also don't understand this barrier-free Internet. It's just as bad as a barrier-free society. Just visit Somalia to see the difference.
Peer review of software is not as crucial as in physics. Everyone wants to check the theory of cold fusion or the proof of Fermat's last theorem because they are used as building blocks for further research. When Fermat's last theorem was proved, it opened up more possibilities. Software can also be used as building blocks but new source code almost never cause a revolution. People also prefer to reinvent the wheel instead of reusing source code.
However, open source software can be audited and that's what some white hats do. The Linux Security Audit Project is actively searching for holes by reading the source code. This includes lots of gifted programmers who can smell a hole from far away.
I'm sure that commercial software is also audited inside the companies but close software gives you false sense of security. It's easier for you to make sloppier code and leave temporary holes because "nobody knows about them anyway." But if you know that bad guys are going to read your source code and exploit it, you really concentrate more on security. And even if bad guys are not going to read your code, you don't want to be laughed at for leaving holes the size of Titanic.
But while peer review is not as common as many think, it doesn't mean that it's useless on unexistant. How many of you have actually checked Andrew Wiles's proof of Fermat's last theorem? Only a handful of extremely intelligent and gifted mathematicians can do that and have done it and that's enough for the whole "community" to trust the theorem. So even if only a handful of programmers check important source code, it's enough if those guys are as gifted as Linus Torvalds or Alan Cox.
She has also recently sold her bed on Ebay for $2,760!
Big deal. She bought it two years ago for $3100.
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Here's the catch. Netscape 6 is a browser that is built on Mozilla. Mozilla is the Open Source browser we all have been following for a long time. Now, Netscape took Mozilla and made another product based on it. That's Netscape 6.
People should realise that *anyone* can take the Mozilla source code, hack it and release an own version. So Mozilla continues to live well.
Someone pointed out that the beta will have AIM and some other AOL's braindead ideas. Remember that you don't have to use Netscape 6. Just download Mozilla and use it.
But I don't think Mozilla/Netscape 6 is ready yet for a beta version. It certainly is already useable and I do use it most of the time but still I'd like it to be a bit better before hitting the beta stage. And it should have automatic URL completion which I'm missing badly.
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6 searches on bugzilla and I still can't find the bug report you must have submitted. Either I can't use bugzilla or then you haven't filed a report.
If you haven't, go do it right away.
Oh, Mozilla's GUI is slow on Linux. I hope it catches up soon. Mozilla on WinNT is fast and already my primary browser. Didn't test that libc.html on it, though.
You guys need a two round election. If no-one gets 50% in the first round, the second round would be between the two who got most votes.
And cut this voting system involving electoral votes. Just vote on the person and count the votes. Or at least don't give the whole state to the winner.
CNN runs a story about Transmeta's IPO. In the story thet say how Transmeta is the first IPO since September to double it's IPO proce on it's first day of trade.
No, I don't use Mail/News on Mozilla. I have occasionally tried the newsreader. It works, though the list scrolling is slow. As the same code handles mail there shouldn't be to big problems handling huge mailboxes. If there are, it would be valuable help to report them.
But back up your mail before giving it a try :-). Oh, and check the build bar on Mozillazine to see which builds are good ones to test.
Well here's mine. I've been using Mozilla nightly builds as my main browser for close to a month. It renders sites beautifully. Way better than the old Netscape 4.
Also people should notice that Mozilla/Netscape 6 can be patched later. So it's really not a big deal if the first one is not perfect. Rendering all those standards and doing it right is not easy but Mozilla does it nicely already.
I think they do have a point. Like several people pointed out on Mozillazine, Mr. Flanagan is complaining that the the most standard-compliant browser is not compliant enough. Someone even called this Bugzilla abuse as nobody gets to see Microsoft's uncensored bug database.
Mozilla is a big project and it's pretty useless for outsiders to decide what should be fixed next. There's a lot of bugs to fix and features to create and only those programmers know what to do next.
I also think that Mozillazine is right in distancing themselves from Netscape 6. Mozilla is another project and the decision makers are not same. Netscape 6 will be released sooner while Mozilla will continue to evolve until it's rock solid.
While I'm writing this I'd like to bring up an alarming thing about Mozilla. After testing a lot of nighly builds, I have to say that the Linux builds are not nearly as far as Win32 builds. I'd love to see more contribution to the Linux development. If you don't have the skills and time to hack code, download nighly builds, report bugs and confirm old ones. It does help creating Mozilla the best browser there is. Complaining and jokes about Mozilla being dead won't.
I went to Mozillazine to read that article. The guy has a point. It sucks to get flames when you're developing as well and fast as you can. Especially from people who haven't contributed a single line of code to this Open Source project.
Having said that, go and contribute. Fork the damn thing if you have such a problem trusting these people. Or go use some other program.
The Mozilla guys don't own you anything. They don't work for you and they certainly don't have to prove themselves to a whiner like you.
LUnix the next generation is the current site of LUnix. They have rewritten it and the page even contains specs.
Great fun :-)
I checked the site thanks to a link from LinuxToday. It looked nice and it did have a source download plus you could log on to mailing lists.
Anyway, the code doesn't contain the browser, mail and news. Sun's waiting for the community's opinions on including them as Mozilla is available. I also remember reading how all the commits will go through the project leaders aka Sun's employees. Unless Sun'll do as good a job as Netscape, I doubt that OpenOffice will remain the center of StarOffice development.
I just tried M18 on Linux. After using nightly builds on NT I have to say that there's a huge difference. The Linux version is lagging badly. It's slower and there's clearly more missing functionality. Even the skin is different.
If I remember correctly, there's more Win32 developers working on Mozilla than developers on Linux. I guess Mozilla could use some more contribution from Linux hackers.
This is cool. Now we even have trolls submitting stories. How can I mark the story as -1 flamebait?
MSIE is not open source, bad Microsoft, bad bad..
Mozilla is open source, bugs, bugs, bad, bad
Sometimes I think that nothing is good enough for some people. You're damned if you don't release your source code and you're damned if you develop your software openly giving full access to CVS.
Mozilla bashers should really look deep in the mirror. www.mozilla.org, www.mozillazine.org and especially bugzilla.mozilla.org contain everything you need to know about Mozilla. You can find out why the tarballs are big (several skins, debugging code), why the memory footprint is big (not optimized yet) and what bugs are still to be fixed (a lot). If you're lazy, stop by at #mozilla on IRC and ask. You'll get a fast answer, I guarantee you.
People, understand your responsibility. Go find out before climbing on a soap box and starting to complain. All this complaining about Mozilla crashing will hurt it's reputation. And Mozilla or Netscape is not to be blamed for it. Mozilla has been pre-alpha, alpha or beta all the time. Any programmer knows that it's still far away from a rock solid Mozilla 1.0.
However, I do use Mozilla more than Netscape now. I love Mozilla's speed on NT and how it renders correctly pages that the old Netscape can't even dream about. That's very nice for a beta-version, isn't it? Let's see how the memory footprint and stability is in another six months or a year.
The bottom line still is that Mozilla looks good. It has got a lot faster lately. It's getting better and better every week and when it's ready, it will be fabulous. I just hope that this Mozilla bashing won't give it a bad rep so that people won't even try the final product.
Oh yes, and those very few people are not consumers then I suppose?
Quite frankly, if there's only a small percentage, why in the world can't the insurance companies take the risk? They are supposed to offer security in exchange for out money, aren't they?
OTOH, if the percentage is big, then it's really not "good for consumers." Or actually... it depends on which group you belong to...
it's a Death Star!
It's weird to see all this Mozilla bashing going on. Yes, it has taken a long time and yes, it's not read yet but how many of you Mozilla bashers have really given Mozilla a try? A good one instead of "it segfaulted at startup, so it sucks"?
Netscape PR3 won't be installed on my computer. Nope, I really don't need all the AOL stuff. That's why I have been downloading Mozilla daily builds and actually use them more than the old Netscape. And let me tell you, the latest builds have been impressive in both speed and stability.
So here's how you should do it. Go to Mozillazine and check the build bar there. Go read the comments and choose a nice build. That way you can actually choose not to download a bad build. If one of those crashes too much, delete your .mozilla-directory. Chances are you have an old one which is not necessarily compatible.
That's it. Oh, and don't only talk the talk. Walk the walk and submit bugs instead of just complaining about beta-versions.
Even though I won't buy Opera, it's nice to see some competition. I strongly suspect they will have a hard time with Mozilla, though.
The language and/or IDE seems suspect in a few areas? Can't you really be more precise than that?
I come from a very strong VB background before moving to Delphi. I just couldn't continue with VB and let me tell you a few reasons:
First, speed. VB apps are dead slow. They may get some impressing numbers in carefully chosen benchmarks but otherwise it's a lot slower than Delphi. In anything heavier I got up to 10 times speedup by moving to Delphi. For example, get the ascii value of a char in a string. Delphi just gets the value with aString[index] while in basic you have to asc(mid$(aString$,index,1)) resulting in creation of temp string.
Second, braindead decisions. VB stores all strings internally in unicode. Try to send a string to a dll and you'll see how VB first converts the string to ansi. If you send an array, each and every string in that array are converted. That's a huge penalty and there's just no way you can change that.
Third, you can't do anything even a bit more advanced without kludges while Delphi provides clean ways to do anything. You just get used to working past the problems without understanding how dreadful that makes your code.
In the end, I hated myself for not changing earlier. Delphi gives you the same variable length strings that VB-programmers love. The syntax is not that much different either so it's easy to start. But when you understand the component model and learn real object oriented programming, Delphi is just wonderful. VB can never get there.
So, blame that programmer for spaghetti code and don't blame the tool.
I've spent the last 1,5 years programming in Delphi and it rocks. I love the language. It's easy to learn, produces fast and small executables and helps producing high quality apps.
People coming from a Visual Basic background will notice that that Delphi is just as easy but it's a lot faster and really made the right way. The class libraries make sense and you can create new components really easy. After programming a few years in VB, there's no way I'll go back to the old monster. Delphi is also a lot easier than C. The language helps you avoid errors. I suppose Object Pascal is a good language to learn before C(++)
But the greatest thing about Delphi will be Kylix. It will be a pleasure to port our software for Linux. I really think Borland did a great decision. Kylix will give them a good start as Linux still lacks Visual Basic. It can really become the state of the art RAD tool for Linux and that will also help them gain markets in the Windows world.
Oh, you may also want to have a look at Lazarus, which is open source. It looks like Kylix will be ready first but Lazarus and the Free Pascal Compiler look good. I already use FPC for small apps and hope to get a strong alternative for Kylix which would boost competition and quality in both.
Where is Whistler's mother?
I don't like the idea of totally untrackable access. Freenet gives the perfect tool for spreading copyrighted software and music. While many think that it serves them right, it is illegal no matter how much that software or music costs.
But I'm even more concerned about child pornography and other dark sides of man. If those sickos can't be tracked, we've just created the perfect tool for child abusers. And frankly, I can't believe that this kind of freedom or anonymity is more important than human rights of the victims of these criminals.
Personal feelings aside, Freenet is also dangerous to the internet. As much as some people would love it, the society can never be free. If you want a safe society, you have to compromise a bit with your own privacy. The politicians and authorities know this and want to keep it this way. So if Internet suddenly becomes totally anonymous, there will be legislation and international agreements to bad all anonymous internet traffic. It will be severly restricted and all rogue countries will be banned. Just look at the land mines to get an idea.
Many people underestimate badly the need to run Windows apps. We're not only talking about office software here. We're talking about thousands of small utilities or custom made programs that are written for Windows to do some small task. At our company there's already several of them.
What Wine lets us do is to run those small programs and concentrate on writing the newest ones for Linux. But we won't port the old ones because it would take a lot of time which we don't have.
So before you put Wine down, remember that changing OS at work places is a huge task. Changing all those small programs on top of that is just a gigantic task and won't happen unless there's a big reason. And the difference between Linux and NT is not big enough.
Weird way of getting attention to a bug. Anyway, you can vote for bugs in Bugzilla to mark most important bugs to fix. So far this bug has only got one vote but I also don't think that Slashdot effect should be used to emphasize one bug over others. Just make a search to find other and more fatal bugs.
Unfortunately Nokia is not any more immune against big corporation problems than Intel. In every big company there's at least one sucky boss. If it's not your boss then it's somebody else's.
It all comes down to individuals. You only need one awful person with power to pollute a healthy working environment. He/she will cause a lot of trouble. As a result skillful people search for a new job. The only ones who are left are used to abuse or carry on the tradition.
Thanks to these kinds of bosses I've got two wonderful employees who couldn't take it at their old workplaces. Both left a gaping hole in their organisation but nothing else changed.
Metallica putting a big chill on free software, open source and free movement of information and ideas? Since when has exchanging of mp3s been about that? It's more about pirating and copying copyrighted material than actually creating something new. And open source is really about creating and shearing and not about stealing other people's creations.
I also don't understand this barrier-free Internet. It's just as bad as a barrier-free society. Just visit Somalia to see the difference.
Peer review of software is not as crucial as in physics. Everyone wants to check the theory of cold fusion or the proof of Fermat's last theorem because they are used as building blocks for further research. When Fermat's last theorem was proved, it opened up more possibilities. Software can also be used as building blocks but new source code almost never cause a revolution. People also prefer to reinvent the wheel instead of reusing source code.
However, open source software can be audited and that's what some white hats do. The Linux Security Audit Project is actively searching for holes by reading the source code. This includes lots of gifted programmers who can smell a hole from far away.
I'm sure that commercial software is also audited inside the companies but close software gives you false sense of security. It's easier for you to make sloppier code and leave temporary holes because "nobody knows about them anyway." But if you know that bad guys are going to read your source code and exploit it, you really concentrate more on security. And even if bad guys are not going to read your code, you don't want to be laughed at for leaving holes the size of Titanic.
But while peer review is not as common as many think, it doesn't mean that it's useless on unexistant. How many of you have actually checked Andrew Wiles's proof of Fermat's last theorem? Only a handful of extremely intelligent and gifted mathematicians can do that and have done it and that's enough for the whole "community" to trust the theorem. So even if only a handful of programmers check important source code, it's enough if those guys are as gifted as Linus Torvalds or Alan Cox.
Big deal. She bought it two years ago for $3100.
Here's the catch. Netscape 6 is a browser that is built on Mozilla. Mozilla is the Open Source browser we all have been following for a long time. Now, Netscape took Mozilla and made another product based on it. That's Netscape 6.
People should realise that *anyone* can take the Mozilla source code, hack it and release an own version. So Mozilla continues to live well.
Someone pointed out that the beta will have AIM and some other AOL's braindead ideas. Remember that you don't have to use Netscape 6. Just download Mozilla and use it.
But I don't think Mozilla/Netscape 6 is ready yet for a beta version. It certainly is already useable and I do use it most of the time but still I'd like it to be a bit better before hitting the beta stage. And it should have automatic URL completion which I'm missing badly.