I agree with you. However, my point still remains. Gnutella is open source. Therefore, the architecture is also open and available for comment and modification. There is nothing stopping Gnutella from looking for a definable starting point, or home base, if you will.
I think that anything being open automatically assumes more than just the code which makes up the software, but also the goals of the project. Obviously if, "a true peer to peer network is inherently limited," then an alternate method must be explored.
Perhaps, instead of a dedicated central server, or a true peer to peer network, maybe the peer to peer part should only contain a list of servers who have currently volunteered.
At any rate, I don't use Gnutella, or Napster, or whatever, so my input on its architecture may be missing the point. My input on the architecture not being immutable, I think, is far from missing the point.
Therefore it is as scaleable as you want it to be. It is stuff like this that reminds me of the good-ol-days when one had to bitch and whine about missing features, and wait around until the people developing said features would come out of the woodwork.
There are still people like that in the world today. What a shame! It seems that ZDnet likes to cater to this crowd. So now they are bitching to an entire community, of which they were - by default - invited to participate.
'Apple beats LinuxPPC to a halfway usable user interface by around 16-17 years.'
Sure. But the whole point was to give apple users a different option of UI on the hardware they liked.
'I'm impressed by LinuxPPC. I order each release they put out, and it's not bad given their marketshare. But bragging about SMP support when Apple has a lot more fish to fry is kind of stupid.'
Why is tackeling SMP stupid? If Apple is going to be able to compete in any way against the way things are going with Intel, AMD, Alpha, etc. SMP is crucial. Apple has some incredible hardware and software to show for itself. If they didn't tackle SMP then they would be breaking their wounds. The power output per machine is not just the CPU ability, but the CPU ability to work when there are more than one present. PC's do it, and now single PC machines can outperform even the fastest Mac G4's.
I think Mac SMP is far from stupid.
And last:
'Other people have beaten Apple to the punch in other stuff. It's not really that big of a deal. I'm more concerned at this point that Apple isn't going to fix some of the... erm... interface oddities in the OSX release.'
I know some of the people working on OSX. Don't worry about them. OSX is in good hands. I'm sure that these people are smart and resourceful enough to find and work out 'oddities.'
But why complain at all? You want to talk about 'oddities?' When was the last time you used Win2K?
For a long time I've been waiting for Apple to come out with SMP. The last test with the Cube didn't seem to go over too well.
Wow.. ! This means that I can video edit on a great platform, and not have to wait 40 minutes for a 4 minute video to render..
Now I just have to get Broadcast2000 to use 1394, and port it to PPClinux, and vuala..:) I don't think you can seporate yourself from MS any better than that!
The likelihood of being killed by or in a car, or dying of heart disease from too many burgers is so large as to make all of these modern scares meaningless. In fact the only form of electromagnetic radiation in any way likely to kill you is lightning.
Sure, however, if I understand you correctly, if you should only worry about dying in a car accident rather than by mad cow disease / cellphones / cullenary heart disease, I'd rather die in the car accident, because it is much more likely to be less painfull for less time.
I don't know... I guess even lightning would be much better a way to go than rotting from the inside out!
But don't mind me.. I'm a hypocrite... I smoke:) I think rotting from the inside out would be a very interesting experience! Really!
"Surgeon General's Warning: Cell phones/ahem/ *may* cause cancer!"
I have no doubt that the cell phone industry will continue on its happy ol' way. I know damn well that smoking is the worst thing I can do to myself, however I still smoke more than the Asarco smelter!
I think that cell phones, just like smoking, has social status, glam maybe, and other social stigmata associated with having / using them. I don't think people will stop talking on cell phones, just because they think they look cool walking down the street telling their friends that they are *actually* walking down the street and talking on the phone at the same time!!! Maybe this isn't most of the time, but it is incredibly common, nonetheless.
Not to mention that the cell phone industry is one hell of a huge industry. If RJ and Mr. M can get away with a known and severe health hazard for so long, just because of the size of the industry, I don't think there is much to stop the cell phone thing either.
I swear, the next thing we'll see is ads on the sides of busses saying, 'Mind if I take this? Mind if I die?' Yeah... That's sure curbing the attitudes of the great Amearican populous.
Well yes, of course they can. However, I think that anyone who takes a point to compete with Rambus and offer an alternative is a good thing. Yes, IBM has the resources to exploit the market, in many of the same ways as Microsoft did, they can just buy the technology from its designers. So in that respect, what difference does it make who builds it? As long as it forces Rambus to wake up, and re-think its 'screw all manufacturers and consumers' plan of action.
Just my opinion. Nothing more. Until God him/herself comes down and blesses the computer industry, I'll take the lesser of the evils, whomever they might be, as long as I didn't hate them to begin with!
We need any compnay we can get to startexploring alternatives in memory technology. Whatever happens in the near future, if Rambus has its way, it really won't matter what platform you are using. RAM is gonna ream you either way.
So... IBM taking steps to look into and promote alternative memory technology will probably result in other companies doing the same, so that no one will have to pay implant prices for their silicon.
And... Welcome to the Rambus competition IBM! Really! I appreciate it!!
... what it was all about eleven years ago when I taught myself BASIC on the Apple II. That whole article gave me a great appreciation for computers, open source, and exploration that Windows stole from me completely. The entire history of computing is something that I am completely lacking. It is definately something I will remedy immediately! The whole thing about computers being a 'black-box' now a days is way too true! Now all I want to do is read, explore, and modify Coffee-HOWTO.
There is a website currently in development that aims to do such a thing. If you are interested in participating in it, email me. This website is for the non-profit organization hosted through my production company Gemini MediaWorks. The organization is called the Alice B. Arts Foundation. As far as my visions for what this organization will accomplish, I have some solid ideas for recognizing artists either on the net, or off, but certainly bring these artists to the net in any case.
If you would be interested in getting more information about this site, helping out, etc. let me know, and I will send more information to interested parties. Anyone who is interested is encouraged to help out.
I helped start a youth computer lab and technology training program called Youth Tech. This was a community computer lab completely constructed and maintained by myself, and about 20 other local youth.
We were also funded by a healthy grant from Weed & Seed -- no, not fertalizer:). Anyway, the whole experience was a huge success for about two years. What happened? The greedy Son of a -----s on the board of directors of the YMCA (whom hosted the program) ganked everyone's job and ran off with the newly installed computer lab (two of them) and all of the donated hardware and software. Wow! Now there's a great display of Christian Ethic (tm)
So, I don't think you are going to have great difficulty getting youth to participate in the program and stick with it. Make it worth their while. If they can get paid well (at the time I worked for Youth Tech, and was the youth president toward the end, I was making $6.25/hr, at the time it was about $2.50 above minimum wage for a 15 year old).
Anyway, I think that programs like this are a great thing. It introduced me to the hardware end of computers (I had already been programming for 4 years prior to this). If you plan well not only will you have a lot of committed youth, you will have a lot of support from the community as well! Just watch out for those greedy scums who bilk the loop-holes and take advantage of community oriented grant money. Try to maintain this lab independently of a parent organization, or become your own organization. Otherwise, the availability to be taken advantage of is ever-so-present.
Pardon the choppy grammar, but things are a bit rushed!:). Good luck and best wishes!
I think a great place to start now a days is with web design. Not just HTML, (because that isn't programming, just markup). However, PHP is a great language.
It is robust, yet it is still easy to learn and use! You can get started writing really neat web applications in just a couple weeks of studying.
After your kids get the basic 'hang' of PHP, they can pretty much teach themselves. Then they can move on to SQL and databases, javascript, etc. The PHP online documentation is pretty good. It isn't the most indepth, but visitor's comments usually expand on the provided documentation. There is certainly enough there to know what is going on, and to get enough information to experiment with the commands.
I started programming when I was 11. I taught myself Apple BASIC on an old (well, new then) apple clone. After that, it was just learning, seeing what was out ther, and playing with it. So I can see where you are coming from, and where your kids are as well since I've been in both shoes.
For many web sites, and even many services, ad banners are the only source of revenue for many web sites. I don't have a problem with them. The only problem I have with add banners is when I get cookies from doubleclick, or whomever. I like cookie technology. It is a very useful tool for web-designers, and makes many things possible quite easily.
I am glad to see that I can require all cookies I recieve to come from the site I am looking at, and not some third party making millions by watching everywhere I go on the internet.
I may not be in Kansas anymore, but you just keep your wicked witch eyes and your friggin flying monkies off of me!
I have to agree with you. We (freeinternet.com) were using MySQL to record page hits (with ip) and the thing would crash every few minutes. We switched to Postgres and everything went superb.
I keep hearing people say *sigh* to postgres, but let me tell you, that DB is an ox! It'll take one hell of a beating, and never flinch. It also has some awesome datatypes to work with, like tuples and lists! Not to mention the commandline utilities that come with it to make things like backup easy as pie.
I used to use MySQL, but now I only use Postgres, for every project that requires a database! It is just so much nicer to work with. Of course, this is my opinion, and if you don't like it, you can SELECT * FROM my_ass WHERE your_face='sucking';
I don't know of a single large company (larger than a two location hardware store chain) that does not contribute to charities. It's good business sense to make financial contributions to 501(c)(3) organizations, and is a standard business practice to do so in exchange for the tax credits they recieve. A good question to ask though, is whether or not the charity they support is a charity you want to contribute to. Does Phillip Morris contribute to the Christian Coalation or to Green Peace, or both? Do you want to support a company who finances these organizations? I like Green Peace, but I don't really want a dime of my money going to the CC. As far as worker treatment, I don't know a whole lot about those conditions. I know that from our perspective, these workers are making scant wages, but if you look at it from their ecological perspective, some of these factory workers are making a decent living. If you don't know what a company is doing as far as being a good neighbor, go to their website and read their mission statement, call and ask which organizations they work for, and as far as worker treatment, etc., that would probably take a bit of research and possibly investigation.
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I agree with you. However, my point still remains. Gnutella is open source. Therefore, the architecture is also open and available for comment and modification. There is nothing stopping Gnutella from looking for a definable starting point, or home base, if you will.
I think that anything being open automatically assumes more than just the code which makes up the software, but also the goals of the project. Obviously if, "a true peer to peer network is inherently limited," then an alternate method must be explored.
Perhaps, instead of a dedicated central server, or a true peer to peer network, maybe the peer to peer part should only contain a list of servers who have currently volunteered.
At any rate, I don't use Gnutella, or Napster, or whatever, so my input on its architecture may be missing the point. My input on the architecture not being immutable, I think, is far from missing the point.
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Therefore it is as scaleable as you want it to be. It is stuff like this that reminds me of the good-ol-days when one had to bitch and whine about missing features, and wait around until the people developing said features would come out of the woodwork.
There are still people like that in the world today. What a shame! It seems that ZDnet likes to cater to this crowd. So now they are bitching to an entire community, of which they were - by default - invited to participate.
I agree and I don't. First of all:
'Apple beats LinuxPPC to a halfway usable user interface by around 16-17 years.'
Sure. But the whole point was to give apple users a different option of UI on the hardware they liked.
'I'm impressed by LinuxPPC. I order each release they put out, and it's not bad given their marketshare. But bragging about SMP support when Apple has a lot more fish to fry is kind of stupid.'
Why is tackeling SMP stupid? If Apple is going to be able to compete in any way against the way things are going with Intel, AMD, Alpha, etc. SMP is crucial. Apple has some incredible hardware and software to show for itself. If they didn't tackle SMP then they would be breaking their wounds. The power output per machine is not just the CPU ability, but the CPU ability to work when there are more than one present. PC's do it, and now single PC machines can outperform even the fastest Mac G4's.
I think Mac SMP is far from stupid.
And last:
'Other people have beaten Apple to the punch in other stuff. It's not really that big of a deal. I'm more concerned at this point that Apple isn't going to fix some of the ... erm ... interface oddities in the OSX release.'
I know some of the people working on OSX. Don't worry about them. OSX is in good hands. I'm sure that these people are smart and resourceful enough to find and work out 'oddities.'
But why complain at all? You want to talk about 'oddities?' When was the last time you used Win2K?
And for crying out loud, OSX is still *beta*
For a long time I've been waiting for Apple to come out with SMP. The last test with the Cube didn't seem to go over too well.
:) I don't think you can seporate yourself from MS any better than that!
Wow.. ! This means that I can video edit on a great platform, and not have to wait 40 minutes for a 4 minute video to render..
Now I just have to get Broadcast2000 to use 1394, and port it to PPClinux, and vuala..
The likelihood of being killed by or in a car, or dying of heart disease from too many burgers is so large as to make all of these modern scares meaningless. In fact the only form of electromagnetic radiation in any way likely to kill you is lightning.
Sure, however, if I understand you correctly, if you should only worry about dying in a car accident rather than by mad cow disease / cellphones / cullenary heart disease, I'd rather die in the car accident, because it is much more likely to be less painfull for less time.
I don't know... I guess even lightning would be much better a way to go than rotting from the inside out!
But don't mind me.. I'm a hypocrite... I smoke :) I think rotting from the inside out would be a very interesting experience! Really!
"Surgeon General's Warning: Cell phones /ahem/ *may* cause cancer!"
I have no doubt that the cell phone industry will continue on its happy ol' way. I know damn well that smoking is the worst thing I can do to myself, however I still smoke more than the Asarco smelter!
I think that cell phones, just like smoking, has social status, glam maybe, and other social stigmata associated with having / using them. I don't think people will stop talking on cell phones, just because they think they look cool walking down the street telling their friends that they are *actually* walking down the street and talking on the phone at the same time!!! Maybe this isn't most of the time, but it is incredibly common, nonetheless.
Not to mention that the cell phone industry is one hell of a huge industry. If RJ and Mr. M can get away with a known and severe health hazard for so long, just because of the size of the industry, I don't think there is much to stop the cell phone thing either.
I swear, the next thing we'll see is ads on the sides of busses saying, 'Mind if I take this? Mind if I die?' Yeah... That's sure curbing the attitudes of the great Amearican populous.
Well yes, of course they can. However, I think that anyone who takes a point to compete with Rambus and offer an alternative is a good thing. Yes, IBM has the resources to exploit the market, in many of the same ways as Microsoft did, they can just buy the technology from its designers. So in that respect, what difference does it make who builds it? As long as it forces Rambus to wake up, and re-think its 'screw all manufacturers and consumers' plan of action.
Just my opinion. Nothing more. Until God him/herself comes down and blesses the computer industry, I'll take the lesser of the evils, whomever they might be, as long as I didn't hate them to begin with!
We need any compnay we can get to startexploring alternatives in memory technology. Whatever happens in the near future, if Rambus has its way, it really won't matter what platform you are using. RAM is gonna ream you either way.
So... IBM taking steps to look into and promote alternative memory technology will probably result in other companies doing the same, so that no one will have to pay implant prices for their silicon.
And... Welcome to the Rambus competition IBM! Really! I appreciate it!!
... what it was all about eleven years ago when I taught myself BASIC on the Apple II. That whole article gave me a great appreciation for computers, open source, and exploration that Windows stole from me completely. The entire history of computing is something that I am completely lacking. It is definately something I will remedy immediately! The whole thing about computers being a 'black-box' now a days is way too true! Now all I want to do is read, explore, and modify Coffee-HOWTO.
There is a website currently in development that aims to do such a thing. If you are interested in participating in it, email me. This website is for the non-profit organization hosted through my production company Gemini MediaWorks. The organization is called the Alice B. Arts Foundation. As far as my visions for what this organization will accomplish, I have some solid ideas for recognizing artists either on the net, or off, but certainly bring these artists to the net in any case.
If you would be interested in getting more information about this site, helping out, etc. let me know, and I will send more information to interested parties. Anyone who is interested is encouraged to help out.
Now maybe they will be able to remove the stupid gene from dogs and ASP developers!!
I helped start a youth computer lab and technology training program called Youth Tech. This was a community computer lab completely constructed and maintained by myself, and about 20 other local youth.
We were also funded by a healthy grant from Weed & Seed -- no, not fertalizer :). Anyway, the whole experience was a huge success for about two years. What happened? The greedy Son of a -----s on the board of directors of the YMCA (whom hosted the program) ganked everyone's job and ran off with the newly installed computer lab (two of them) and all of the donated hardware and software. Wow! Now there's a great display of Christian Ethic (tm)
So, I don't think you are going to have great difficulty getting youth to participate in the program and stick with it. Make it worth their while. If they can get paid well (at the time I worked for Youth Tech, and was the youth president toward the end, I was making $6.25/hr, at the time it was about $2.50 above minimum wage for a 15 year old).
Anyway, I think that programs like this are a great thing. It introduced me to the hardware end of computers (I had already been programming for 4 years prior to this). If you plan well not only will you have a lot of committed youth, you will have a lot of support from the community as well! Just watch out for those greedy scums who bilk the loop-holes and take advantage of community oriented grant money. Try to maintain this lab independently of a parent organization, or become your own organization. Otherwise, the availability to be taken advantage of is ever-so-present.
Pardon the choppy grammar, but things are a bit rushed! :). Good luck and best wishes!
Anyone see U571?
"This is U571. Destroy me!"
I think a great place to start now a days is with web design. Not just HTML, (because that isn't programming, just markup). However, PHP is a great language.
It is robust, yet it is still easy to learn and use! You can get started writing really neat web applications in just a couple weeks of studying.
After your kids get the basic 'hang' of PHP, they can pretty much teach themselves. Then they can move on to SQL and databases, javascript, etc. The PHP online documentation is pretty good. It isn't the most indepth, but visitor's comments usually expand on the provided documentation. There is certainly enough there to know what is going on, and to get enough information to experiment with the commands.
I started programming when I was 11. I taught myself Apple BASIC on an old (well, new then) apple clone. After that, it was just learning, seeing what was out ther, and playing with it. So I can see where you are coming from, and where your kids are as well since I've been in both shoes.
For many web sites, and even many services, ad banners are the only source of revenue for many web sites. I don't have a problem with them. The only problem I have with add banners is when I get cookies from doubleclick, or whomever. I like cookie technology. It is a very useful tool for web-designers, and makes many things possible quite easily.
I am glad to see that I can require all cookies I recieve to come from the site I am looking at, and not some third party making millions by watching everywhere I go on the internet.
I may not be in Kansas anymore, but you just keep your wicked witch eyes and your friggin flying monkies off of me!
I have to agree with you. We (freeinternet.com) were using MySQL to record page hits (with ip) and the thing would crash every few minutes. We switched to Postgres and everything went superb.
I keep hearing people say *sigh* to postgres, but let me tell you, that DB is an ox! It'll take one hell of a beating, and never flinch. It also has some awesome datatypes to work with, like tuples and lists! Not to mention the commandline utilities that come with it to make things like backup easy as pie.
I used to use MySQL, but now I only use Postgres, for every project that requires a database! It is just so much nicer to work with. Of course, this is my opinion, and if you don't like it, you can SELECT * FROM my_ass WHERE your_face='sucking';
Is that Pearl V. 2.2.1012345??
U * N * I * X * . * C * O * M =
85 * 78 * 73 * 88 * 46 * 67 * 79 * 77 =
$798,490,055,082,720.00
That's right baby!
I don't know of a single large company (larger than a two location hardware store chain) that does not contribute to charities. It's good business sense to make financial contributions to 501(c)(3) organizations, and is a standard business practice to do so in exchange for the tax credits they recieve. A good question to ask though, is whether or not the charity they support is a charity you want to contribute to. Does Phillip Morris contribute to the Christian Coalation or to Green Peace, or both? Do you want to support a company who finances these organizations? I like Green Peace, but I don't really want a dime of my money going to the CC. As far as worker treatment, I don't know a whole lot about those conditions. I know that from our perspective, these workers are making scant wages, but if you look at it from their ecological perspective, some of these factory workers are making a decent living. If you don't know what a company is doing as far as being a good neighbor, go to their website and read their mission statement, call and ask which organizations they work for, and as far as worker treatment, etc., that would probably take a bit of research and possibly investigation.
200,000? Wow. Send me some stuff from Think Geek! And a super spark while you're at it!