Congress as an institution which contains people from around the country that people have never heard of and they didn't vote for. Obama on the other hand a lot of people voted for directly... I agree that Obama's approval ratings should be low since he has flip flopped on some major campaign positions like Obamacare and seems to be supporting some very unpopular policies like warrantless surveilance on Americans that he had previously opposed as a candidate and US Senator.
It is perpetually deficient because there will never be enough resources for all the projects people can dream up. You can always argue for more or less, but the beauty of indexing the gas tax to inflation is that it simply keeps the gas tax the same in real dollars. In that way you can better gauge whether maintaining and expanding the road system is really getting more expensive or not. So to me the greatest benefit is transparency and a better baseline understanding of how the transportation budget is changing over time taking inflation out of the equation.
To me the real battle and threat here is that there is a steady move towards funding the police surveillance state that we are constructing with highway money. Yes, fuel efficiency, hybrid and electric cars are going to reduce gas tax inflows which will need to be offset somehow in order to maintain steady funding for highway maintenance. But the solution of installing a network of monitoring devices to track everyone's movements and send them a bill based on where they drive is an over engineered, over priced and overly intrusive solution to a simple problem. The government could more easily in fact just charge a odometer tax without making us all pay for a electronic monitoring system. Or if you accept the fact that the transportation system is a broad public good, then the gas tax could simply be supplemented from existing more progressive taxes, like the income tax, without the need for an open road tolling system on all our highways and roads.
No wonder the approval rating of Congress is so low. They shamefully vote to extend the Patriot Act with 303 votes last month and this month they pass this toothless piece of distraction. This is a political stunt to try and mollify Liberty activists and not anything meaningful. They need to vote against the unconstitutional provisions of the Patriot Act and overturn any provisions that appear to give the government broad authority to force companies to hand over telecommunications data.
Never ending cycle of inflation versus what alternative? Right now we have these periodic very large gas tax increases to catch up with inflation followed by years of decline in the buying power of the Highway Trust Fund. I've actually just read a bit more on the proposal and they do propose indexing it to inflation... but only after increasing the tax by 65% to catch up with inflation over the last 20 years. Basically the choice is to either have it indexed to inflation or else have these periodic hyper increases to catch up with inflation anyway.... or come up with another tax system.
Of more concern would be the proposal to introduce an expensive and intrusive open road tolling system to track all our movements and charge us a per mile tax.
We don't need open road tolling if there is a mileage tax... we all have odometers and we can read and I know at least in my state we have yearly odometer readings and odometers are read whenever cars are sold or registered, so there isn't any reason why we can't just read the odometer and pay a tax instead of having all our movements tracked by a multi-billion dollar electronic tagging system which really infringes on our privacy also.
The issue with the gas tax is that it is a fixed amount per gallon and the real value falls over time with inflation. The only way for the gas tax to keep up is to index it to inflation. Otherwise you will continue to see the Highway funds periodically getting depleted until you have to pump up the tax again. Much better to permanently index the tax to inflation rather than have these periodic increases. Of course you could argue that there are better ways to tax in order to raise transportation infrastructure funds. But if you are going to stick with the gas tax, then index it.
First there is a reasonable suspicion that there was a conspiracy to use the IRS to target groups in a partisan way. This is a serious abuse of power.
So there are two things here. First, If you destroy records that you believe could be subject to a criminal investigation then you have committed a crime. That is irregardless of any document retention policies. And people have been prosecuted for obstruction of justice when they knew or should have known that an investigation was coming and they simply instructed people to follow the document retention policy.
Second the current guideline for document retention of "transitory" emails is180 days, but for Federal Records it is much much longer. I did find a useful description of the test for whether an email is or contains a "Federal Record" under the law:
To qualify as a Federal record under the Federal Records Act, a document must pass two tests:
It is made or received in the course of business, and
It is preserved or appropriate for preservation because it is evidence of Agency activities (as described above) or has sufficient informational value to warrant preservation.
So yes assuming that the bulk of the emails were correspondence over official public business and not friends forwarding her funny cat videos, then yes there is at the very least a violation of public records law. And it would be a violation of Federal Law for the IRS not to have something in place to preserve emails... for at least 180 days even if they were all just cat videos, but they would be required to archive emails for far longer if they contain official correspondence which some of the emails most certainly did contain.
Relying on the un-backed-up hard drive of a computer as the sole repository of official communications is complete insanity. Heads need to roll over this. They wouldn't accept this as an excuse when they're chasing after private citizens for this or for that.
Yes, not having emails backed up on a server in some sort of archive would be absurd. Government requires document retention of just about everything. Unless every email was end to end encrypted, but even then there should be good key management that would allow investigators to decrypt the emails. Just seems absurd that with all the document retention policies the government has that it wouldn't have copies of those emails someplace. Or that other government agencies or the White House wouldn't have copies of inter-agency emails. If the trail dries up it is because people want it to dry up.
The assumption now is that the White House instigated increased IRS scrutiny on groups aligned with the Tea Party which would be a very serious abuse of presidential power to use the tax collecting and police powers of the executive branch to target opposition political groups.
Nixon is rolling over in his grave... the lesson for history is if Nixon had just destroyed all the tapes he could have gotten away with his dirty tricks brigade and abuses of power.
Based on (non-scientific) surveys of people I meet I find that there is still a sizable demand and preference for keyboards on phones. It just happens that Blackberry owns many of the patents for keyboards on phones and is fairly restrictive with licensing those patents. And it is simply the case that the phones blackberry has made with keyboards are not competitive on other features. I'd say that 15% of the consumer market would go for a smartphone with a keyboard versus one without if all other features were pretty much equal with other top of the line smartphones. Could be more or could be less, but 15% of the consumer market would sure beat 0%.
A company doesn't want to be in the business of having to pay customers to take their products... loss leaders are fine if you are getting investments down the line, but the current status quo also means that government/businesses are not going to be willing to make major investments in new Blackberry technology on the business side either. It is only a matter of time before Apple and Google or their proxies catch up on meeting the particular needs of those customers.
Also, in some businesses and government circles people want to limit the kinds of apps that their employees can download on company issued phones for liability, security and cost issues. So just giving them open access to the Amazon app store is not going to cut it.
To me blackberry would offer an android phone based on their good hardware and with an integrated app suites for business and backward compatible with their infrastructure. And then offer an android app store that businesses and government themselves can set the parameters for what types of apps can be downloaded. Sure it could be based on Amazon's app store, but has to be tailorable for different business needs.
When your market share in the consumer market is approximately 0% "saving" is not good, what you need to do is grow market share. So the question is whether an appstore which is as good as your competitors will grow market share for blackberry in the consumer market. And I think the answer it takes more than just being as good as your competitors in one area to gain market share. Perhaps if they just put out some decent android phones that had the old (patented) blackberry keyboard then they could regain some market share from the texters that hate on screen keyboards. That is the one feature they can offer consumers that will be better than the competition.
"Saving" market share only applies to the corporate and government markets where they still have market share to lose.
Egypt isn't the US, but we do provide them with a lot of weapons and financial support while we hold adversaries like Iran, North Korea, Syria or even competitors like China to a different and higher standard of human rights and justify our antagonism towards those countries partly or largely based on their human rights records.
I don't expect the US to impose freedom and democracy around the world wherever we find tyranny, but neither do I want my tax dollars to be used to fund and arm tyrannical regimes like Egypt. Trade with them, okay sure. Arm them, no.
Yes, if these are people who's job it is to drive people around in order to make money then that is a limousine or taxi service and it should be regulated the same way.... but $270,000 license fees sound more like glorified bribes to prevent competition than something close to a legitimate license fee.
If the taxi drivers were protesting the absurd license fees, then I would be more sympathetic.
On the other hand if part of the uber service is simply a better way of matching people for sharing the costs of carpooling and ride sharing, then that is a service that is sorely needed and really isn't a taxi or limousine service.
Shuffling around the agencies is no solution either. What we need is legal clarification from Congress and the courts that the 4th amendment really does apply within the borders of the United States of American.
Then if someone gets caught violating the constitution again they can't go and claim what they are doing is legally valid like they are doing now. The rule of law doesn't mean no one will ever break the law or violate the constitution, it means that when you get caught like the NSA got caught violating the constitution in such a blatant and massive way then there have to be some consequences and at least some shame... you can't just have everyone circling the wagons and saying the NSA or the president can do whatever they feel they need to unbounded by the law or the constitution. The law and the constitution are supposed to be a restraint on government power not a blank check to be cashed by whomever happens to pass a security background check and knows someone who knows someone in Washington.
Heck they can double the NSA budget as long as they are snooping on foreigners and not every American without a warrant. Maybe that is the compromise.... we increasa youah budget if youah stoppa snoopin' on the American people. Maybe the cost of Freedom is that we have to pay off the people who would otherwise take Freedom away from us.
Sarcasm aside I think you make an important point... Between the “state secrets” privilege and the apparent willingness of the NSA to engage in a wholesale violation of the US Constitution and lie to congress and the courts I seriously doubt it would be remotely possible for a court to narrowly "rule on the facts" of the particular case. Rather courts are going to have to rule on the law and the probability that the NSA is violating individual liberties and then issue injunctions which give the government and the NSA and US government future instructions that the 4th amendment applies to their surveillance activities in the US despite whatever the Patriot Act might be interpreted to mean... meaning the courts will have to issue rulings based on what is permissible rather than issuing narrow injunctions against particular acts.
So for instance the court should simply rule that for the NSA to force companies to hand over business records including communications logs and the like that they need a warrant that complies with the 4th amendment and is issued: "upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized"
Out of one side they will argue that they can't possibly store all this massive data they are collecting. And then they will turn around and blame the courts for needing more storage to store all this data they are collecting. See we can't stop spying on the American people... the courts are making us.
I don't disagree with the idea that some of these things might be worth doing, especially if you have intellectual property or activities that are worth protecting. Just disagree with the notion that it would be easier to get a few billion people talking with encryption than it would be to just get some politicians elected who might actually put some constitutional restraints back on the NSA and other US government agencies. Encryption is better than not having encryption, but relying on encryption when you don't have well managed keys or security in other parts of your system is what I think can lead to a screen door on a submarine mentality where you think you have a door.
Sorry. I was hijacking your statement to make another. Of course you are correct that for encryption to be effective it has to be the default for everyone rather than some special thing only criminals, national security types and paranoid people use. Basically using encryption now is like raising a big red flag saying 'look at me look at me I am using encryption!!'
But my point is that even with encryption it does not thwart 95% of the threat from unconstitutional government surveillance or criminal hackers. Sure if Google can make encryption more standard then that would be a great accomplishment, but it is just one small slice of the privacy pie.
Encryption misses the point. Encryption isn't privacy. The major threat to privacy from the US government is not from the content of your communications being read without a warrant it is that your communications are going to be monitored without a warrant so they will be able to monitor all your associations, purchases, communications and movement and locations. Basically it is like having a tail on 24x7 with someone looking over your shoulder... they don't need to know what you are saying until they want to and if they want to then you are past the point where encryption will mean much since they can put a keylogger on your system or maybe even break your 256 bit encryption.
The only protection from the surveillance state is either to eliminate communications technology altogether or to return to the rule of law.
I have a great deal of respect for you and your accomplishments/contributions to the world at large, so I'm going to attempt to be civil instead of quite so frothy at the mouth.
I too have a great deal of respect for your work, Mr. Anonymous Coward. With your fervent idealism combined with nonsensical and sometimes hilarious non-sequiturs and even the occasionally great "First Post!" you have molded, reshaped and reshaped again the core of our Slashdot civilization for eons or even hours to come. Here's to you Mr. Anonymous Coward!
I recall Dean Kamen saying how he agreed to help Coca Cola with their new soda machine that could dispense hundreds of different flavors if they helped him distribute his water purification systems in parts of the world where Coke was one of very few distributors. Win-win. Sometimes people can use companies not just to make money.
It should be the case that the driver is only responsible for the operation of the vehicle when they are actually driving or if they did something to modify the car to make it unsafe. If it is driving around autonomously then it should be the responsibility of the manufacturer for any defective decision making by the car that leads to a collision and damage. Having a car with no manual override clarifies that.
That to me is the point of this car. Besides being an interesting option, this is basically purpose built to demonstrate to state legislators that there should be room under state law to allow fully autonomous cars on the road without requiring a licensed driver always at the ready to take over and avoid collisions.
Something you could have demonstrated in the previous cars by having someone sitting in the passenger seats, but now there is no difference in which seat you sit in. Having autonomous cars with manual overrides left the driver responsible for the operation of the vehicle and liable for accidents... unrealistically so. A driver couldn't reasonably be expected to decide whether the car would avoid a collision or not. That kind of law turns an autonomous navigation system into a dangerous delay in human decision making rather than a life saving safety device. This hybrid approach to liability which retained driver liability was unrealistic and undermined safety. If the driver is driving they should be licensed and liable for mistakes, if the computer is driving then the car and the manufacturer should be licensed and liable.
Honestly, in my view, removing the steering wheel is a safety feature.
This car could provide a very important option in the marketplace for those with no ability or desire to drive a car but still need a car for transportation. And by removing manual control completely it clarifies many of the legal issues that our citizen legislator's in most states are grappling with for allowing autonomous cars on the roads. Brilliant move by Google.
And an interesting way to settle the issue of legal liability. If a car without driver controls crashes it is either the fault of the other driver or the manufacturer, unless the owner or driver of the car modifies the vehicle in a way that contributed to the crash. Licensing shouldn't be an issue either since you press a button and tell it where to go. And drunk driving wouldn't be applicable since everyone in the vehicle is a passenger.
The role of fully autonomous cars in preventing drunk driving alone has the potential to save over 10,000 lives per year in the US.
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Congress as an institution which contains people from around the country that people have never heard of and they didn't vote for. Obama on the other hand a lot of people voted for directly... I agree that Obama's approval ratings should be low since he has flip flopped on some major campaign positions like Obamacare and seems to be supporting some very unpopular policies like warrantless surveilance on Americans that he had previously opposed as a candidate and US Senator.
It is perpetually deficient because there will never be enough resources for all the projects people can dream up. You can always argue for more or less, but the beauty of indexing the gas tax to inflation is that it simply keeps the gas tax the same in real dollars. In that way you can better gauge whether maintaining and expanding the road system is really getting more expensive or not. So to me the greatest benefit is transparency and a better baseline understanding of how the transportation budget is changing over time taking inflation out of the equation.
To me the real battle and threat here is that there is a steady move towards funding the police surveillance state that we are constructing with highway money. Yes, fuel efficiency, hybrid and electric cars are going to reduce gas tax inflows which will need to be offset somehow in order to maintain steady funding for highway maintenance. But the solution of installing a network of monitoring devices to track everyone's movements and send them a bill based on where they drive is an over engineered, over priced and overly intrusive solution to a simple problem. The government could more easily in fact just charge a odometer tax without making us all pay for a electronic monitoring system. Or if you accept the fact that the transportation system is a broad public good, then the gas tax could simply be supplemented from existing more progressive taxes, like the income tax, without the need for an open road tolling system on all our highways and roads.
No wonder the approval rating of Congress is so low. They shamefully vote to extend the Patriot Act with 303 votes last month and this month they pass this toothless piece of distraction. This is a political stunt to try and mollify Liberty activists and not anything meaningful. They need to vote against the unconstitutional provisions of the Patriot Act and overturn any provisions that appear to give the government broad authority to force companies to hand over telecommunications data.
It would be good, except that the legislation itself has a backdoor and doesn't actually stop anything.
Never ending cycle of inflation versus what alternative? Right now we have these periodic very large gas tax increases to catch up with inflation followed by years of decline in the buying power of the Highway Trust Fund. I've actually just read a bit more on the proposal and they do propose indexing it to inflation... but only after increasing the tax by 65% to catch up with inflation over the last 20 years. Basically the choice is to either have it indexed to inflation or else have these periodic hyper increases to catch up with inflation anyway.... or come up with another tax system.
Of more concern would be the proposal to introduce an expensive and intrusive open road tolling system to track all our movements and charge us a per mile tax.
We don't need open road tolling if there is a mileage tax... we all have odometers and we can read and I know at least in my state we have yearly odometer readings and odometers are read whenever cars are sold or registered, so there isn't any reason why we can't just read the odometer and pay a tax instead of having all our movements tracked by a multi-billion dollar electronic tagging system which really infringes on our privacy also.
The issue with the gas tax is that it is a fixed amount per gallon and the real value falls over time with inflation. The only way for the gas tax to keep up is to index it to inflation. Otherwise you will continue to see the Highway funds periodically getting depleted until you have to pump up the tax again. Much better to permanently index the tax to inflation rather than have these periodic increases. Of course you could argue that there are better ways to tax in order to raise transportation infrastructure funds. But if you are going to stick with the gas tax, then index it.
First there is a reasonable suspicion that there was a conspiracy to use the IRS to target groups in a partisan way. This is a serious abuse of power.
So there are two things here. First, If you destroy records that you believe could be subject to a criminal investigation then you have committed a crime. That is irregardless of any document retention policies. And people have been prosecuted for obstruction of justice when they knew or should have known that an investigation was coming and they simply instructed people to follow the document retention policy.
Second the current guideline for document retention of "transitory" emails is180 days, but for Federal Records it is much much longer. I did find a useful description of the test for whether an email is or contains a "Federal Record" under the law:
To qualify as a Federal record under the Federal Records Act, a document must pass two tests:
It is made or received in the course of business, and
It is preserved or appropriate for preservation because it is evidence of Agency activities (as described above) or has sufficient informational value to warrant preservation.
So yes assuming that the bulk of the emails were correspondence over official public business and not friends forwarding her funny cat videos, then yes there is at the very least a violation of public records law. And it would be a violation of Federal Law for the IRS not to have something in place to preserve emails... for at least 180 days even if they were all just cat videos, but they would be required to archive emails for far longer if they contain official correspondence which some of the emails most certainly did contain.
Relying on the un-backed-up hard drive of a computer as the sole repository of official communications is complete insanity. Heads need to roll over this. They wouldn't accept this as an excuse when they're chasing after private citizens for this or for that.
Yes, not having emails backed up on a server in some sort of archive would be absurd. Government requires document retention of just about everything. Unless every email was end to end encrypted, but even then there should be good key management that would allow investigators to decrypt the emails. Just seems absurd that with all the document retention policies the government has that it wouldn't have copies of those emails someplace. Or that other government agencies or the White House wouldn't have copies of inter-agency emails. If the trail dries up it is because people want it to dry up.
The assumption now is that the White House instigated increased IRS scrutiny on groups aligned with the Tea Party which would be a very serious abuse of presidential power to use the tax collecting and police powers of the executive branch to target opposition political groups.
Nixon is rolling over in his grave... the lesson for history is if Nixon had just destroyed all the tapes he could have gotten away with his dirty tricks brigade and abuses of power.
Based on (non-scientific) surveys of people I meet I find that there is still a sizable demand and preference for keyboards on phones. It just happens that Blackberry owns many of the patents for keyboards on phones and is fairly restrictive with licensing those patents. And it is simply the case that the phones blackberry has made with keyboards are not competitive on other features. I'd say that 15% of the consumer market would go for a smartphone with a keyboard versus one without if all other features were pretty much equal with other top of the line smartphones. Could be more or could be less, but 15% of the consumer market would sure beat 0%.
A company doesn't want to be in the business of having to pay customers to take their products... loss leaders are fine if you are getting investments down the line, but the current status quo also means that government/businesses are not going to be willing to make major investments in new Blackberry technology on the business side either. It is only a matter of time before Apple and Google or their proxies catch up on meeting the particular needs of those customers.
Also, in some businesses and government circles people want to limit the kinds of apps that their employees can download on company issued phones for liability, security and cost issues. So just giving them open access to the Amazon app store is not going to cut it.
To me blackberry would offer an android phone based on their good hardware and with an integrated app suites for business and backward compatible with their infrastructure. And then offer an android app store that businesses and government themselves can set the parameters for what types of apps can be downloaded. Sure it could be based on Amazon's app store, but has to be tailorable for different business needs.
When your market share in the consumer market is approximately 0% "saving" is not good, what you need to do is grow market share. So the question is whether an appstore which is as good as your competitors will grow market share for blackberry in the consumer market. And I think the answer it takes more than just being as good as your competitors in one area to gain market share. Perhaps if they just put out some decent android phones that had the old (patented) blackberry keyboard then they could regain some market share from the texters that hate on screen keyboards. That is the one feature they can offer consumers that will be better than the competition. "Saving" market share only applies to the corporate and government markets where they still have market share to lose.
EFF put together this great debate between Joe Biden 2006 and Barrack Obama 2013
Egypt isn't the US, but we do provide them with a lot of weapons and financial support while we hold adversaries like Iran, North Korea, Syria or even competitors like China to a different and higher standard of human rights and justify our antagonism towards those countries partly or largely based on their human rights records.
I don't expect the US to impose freedom and democracy around the world wherever we find tyranny, but neither do I want my tax dollars to be used to fund and arm tyrannical regimes like Egypt. Trade with them, okay sure. Arm them, no.
Yes, if these are people who's job it is to drive people around in order to make money then that is a limousine or taxi service and it should be regulated the same way.... but $270,000 license fees sound more like glorified bribes to prevent competition than something close to a legitimate license fee.
If the taxi drivers were protesting the absurd license fees, then I would be more sympathetic.
On the other hand if part of the uber service is simply a better way of matching people for sharing the costs of carpooling and ride sharing, then that is a service that is sorely needed and really isn't a taxi or limousine service.
Shuffling around the agencies is no solution either. What we need is legal clarification from Congress and the courts that the 4th amendment really does apply within the borders of the United States of American.
Then if someone gets caught violating the constitution again they can't go and claim what they are doing is legally valid like they are doing now. The rule of law doesn't mean no one will ever break the law or violate the constitution, it means that when you get caught like the NSA got caught violating the constitution in such a blatant and massive way then there have to be some consequences and at least some shame... you can't just have everyone circling the wagons and saying the NSA or the president can do whatever they feel they need to unbounded by the law or the constitution. The law and the constitution are supposed to be a restraint on government power not a blank check to be cashed by whomever happens to pass a security background check and knows someone who knows someone in Washington.
Heck they can double the NSA budget as long as they are snooping on foreigners and not every American without a warrant. Maybe that is the compromise.... we increasa youah budget if youah stoppa snoopin' on the American people. Maybe the cost of Freedom is that we have to pay off the people who would otherwise take Freedom away from us.
Sarcasm aside I think you make an important point... Between the “state secrets” privilege and the apparent willingness of the NSA to engage in a wholesale violation of the US Constitution and lie to congress and the courts I seriously doubt it would be remotely possible for a court to narrowly "rule on the facts" of the particular case. Rather courts are going to have to rule on the law and the probability that the NSA is violating individual liberties and then issue injunctions which give the government and the NSA and US government future instructions that the 4th amendment applies to their surveillance activities in the US despite whatever the Patriot Act might be interpreted to mean... meaning the courts will have to issue rulings based on what is permissible rather than issuing narrow injunctions against particular acts.
So for instance the court should simply rule that for the NSA to force companies to hand over business records including communications logs and the like that they need a warrant that complies with the 4th amendment and is issued: "upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized"
Out of one side they will argue that they can't possibly store all this massive data they are collecting. And then they will turn around and blame the courts for needing more storage to store all this data they are collecting. See we can't stop spying on the American people... the courts are making us.
I don't disagree with the idea that some of these things might be worth doing, especially if you have intellectual property or activities that are worth protecting. Just disagree with the notion that it would be easier to get a few billion people talking with encryption than it would be to just get some politicians elected who might actually put some constitutional restraints back on the NSA and other US government agencies. Encryption is better than not having encryption, but relying on encryption when you don't have well managed keys or security in other parts of your system is what I think can lead to a screen door on a submarine mentality where you think you have a door.
Sorry. I was hijacking your statement to make another. Of course you are correct that for encryption to be effective it has to be the default for everyone rather than some special thing only criminals, national security types and paranoid people use. Basically using encryption now is like raising a big red flag saying 'look at me look at me I am using encryption!!'
But my point is that even with encryption it does not thwart 95% of the threat from unconstitutional government surveillance or criminal hackers. Sure if Google can make encryption more standard then that would be a great accomplishment, but it is just one small slice of the privacy pie.
Encryption misses the point. Encryption isn't privacy. The major threat to privacy from the US government is not from the content of your communications being read without a warrant it is that your communications are going to be monitored without a warrant so they will be able to monitor all your associations, purchases, communications and movement and locations. Basically it is like having a tail on 24x7 with someone looking over your shoulder... they don't need to know what you are saying until they want to and if they want to then you are past the point where encryption will mean much since they can put a keylogger on your system or maybe even break your 256 bit encryption.
The only protection from the surveillance state is either to eliminate communications technology altogether or to return to the rule of law.
I have a great deal of respect for you and your accomplishments/contributions to the world at large, so I'm going to attempt to be civil instead of quite so frothy at the mouth.
I too have a great deal of respect for your work, Mr. Anonymous Coward. With your fervent idealism combined with nonsensical and sometimes hilarious non-sequiturs and even the occasionally great "First Post!" you have molded, reshaped and reshaped again the core of our Slashdot civilization for eons or even hours to come. Here's to you Mr. Anonymous Coward!
I recall Dean Kamen saying how he agreed to help Coca Cola with their new soda machine that could dispense hundreds of different flavors if they helped him distribute his water purification systems in parts of the world where Coke was one of very few distributors. Win-win. Sometimes people can use companies not just to make money.
It should be the case that the driver is only responsible for the operation of the vehicle when they are actually driving or if they did something to modify the car to make it unsafe. If it is driving around autonomously then it should be the responsibility of the manufacturer for any defective decision making by the car that leads to a collision and damage. Having a car with no manual override clarifies that.
That to me is the point of this car. Besides being an interesting option, this is basically purpose built to demonstrate to state legislators that there should be room under state law to allow fully autonomous cars on the road without requiring a licensed driver always at the ready to take over and avoid collisions.
Something you could have demonstrated in the previous cars by having someone sitting in the passenger seats, but now there is no difference in which seat you sit in. Having autonomous cars with manual overrides left the driver responsible for the operation of the vehicle and liable for accidents... unrealistically so. A driver couldn't reasonably be expected to decide whether the car would avoid a collision or not. That kind of law turns an autonomous navigation system into a dangerous delay in human decision making rather than a life saving safety device. This hybrid approach to liability which retained driver liability was unrealistic and undermined safety. If the driver is driving they should be licensed and liable for mistakes, if the computer is driving then the car and the manufacturer should be licensed and liable.
Honestly, in my view, removing the steering wheel is a safety feature.
This car could provide a very important option in the marketplace for those with no ability or desire to drive a car but still need a car for transportation. And by removing manual control completely it clarifies many of the legal issues that our citizen legislator's in most states are grappling with for allowing autonomous cars on the roads. Brilliant move by Google.
And an interesting way to settle the issue of legal liability. If a car without driver controls crashes it is either the fault of the other driver or the manufacturer, unless the owner or driver of the car modifies the vehicle in a way that contributed to the crash. Licensing shouldn't be an issue either since you press a button and tell it where to go. And drunk driving wouldn't be applicable since everyone in the vehicle is a passenger.
The role of fully autonomous cars in preventing drunk driving alone has the potential to save over 10,000 lives per year in the US.