So essentially it is fine to yell about, say, a teacher being a pedophile.
That's right. And the people who whould believe the accusation without checking are a bunch of dumbasses, pricks, and gossips. He should sue the people who fired him, not the guy talking about him.
Yes, human are like machines, and they can be programmed like machines. The programming error here is in the response mechanism. So, it is possible to program humans to think before they act. Society is programming kludge into the system by misdiagnosing the symptoms as the cause. And of course, it's intentional in that control of speech and thought is a very important tool of the authorities that are being defended by everybody here, if in a back handed way.
Not to worry, your kids and grandkids will pay for it. You can enslave them with your debts. And there's always the cost/benefit ratio. Is the war more expensive than the expected plunder?
Reputation? Please! Who needs a reputation when you control the world's money supply. This isn't some hoity toity Hollywood bridge club here. They are criminals. Smooth talking thugs that have you all.
All wars are about piracy. I know you like to believe all that fancy talk, but that's what it boils down to. We fight our wars for money, and to plunder those weaker than us, period. Your leader, Jim Jones is calling you..
Your post indicates otherwise. As it would for anybody who attempts to conflate speech and action. Even if you're not retarded, you're being lazy, looking for the convenient way out.
You the listener, are alone responsible for your actions. Your refusal to accept that is why there can be no further progress.
Oh c'mon.. too simple. The guy pulling the trigger is the killer. There is nobody else.
Now, with voice activated machines. A voice can trigger a machine reliably. A machine can't choose to refuse. That's the key. So yeah, the voice is the trigger. But when you tell a person, it's another thing altogether. So let's make it easy. The last person in the chain is the guilty one..
Sorry for the second reply, but it needs to be asked.. again and again apparently. It's an old question. You may have heard it:
"What do you call it when the assassins accuse the assassin?"
You might never hear used as a pretext for starting a war, but since most, if not all wars are about economic, commercial plunder, copyright is as good as any other reason to start one. See first a country that doesn't respect another's copyright will meet up with economic "sanctions", then an embargo, later a blockade, which is considered an act of war by some. Now, don't you think that people who try to run the blockage are going to be shot if they don't obey an order to stop and be boarded? And if the blockade fails, don't think for a second that the final option won't be considered.
The person I responded to doesn't understand that real action is required to kill somebody. Words by themselves can do nothing. Somebody has to act. This point goes over everybody's head (including the moderators) every single time I try to bring this up. The man acquired nothing that wasn't given to him. He gained power through appeasement long before any military action was needed.
I do understand the framework. And precisely what I am saying is the frame is fucked up and must be ripped down. Babble all you want about the right to war, but remember it's not a one way street. There's also the right to fight back. The state shall never enjoy any more rights than any particular individual. War is always justified to beat back the authority. I have the same right to wage war against any state.
I'm just saying anything can be used to start a war. It just has to begin with somebody resisting an arrest (even for copyright infringement), and it can snowball from there. That's why all that mumbo-jumbo means nothing to me. The reach of the US and all the other imperial powers is global. Let's stop playing this silly game about "law" and such. There is no law. There are only contracts. And the worlds' militaries exist to enforce contracts.
Yeah? How does that work? How does a word kill a person if it can't pick up a gun and pull the trigger? How does a word get up in the morning, take a shit and a shower, and put on its uniform? What size boot does a word wear?
If words can be become a threat to authority or corporate profit, they must be tightly controlled. This is one of a myriad ways of doing so while providing an illusion of protecting the public.
What's the alternative? You could decide to not believe hearsay. That is the only proper, civil response. But it's much easier to kill the messenger, as always.
You can believe what you choose to to believe. If you actually fall for that bureaucratic prattle, all I can say is, keep the faith. It is such utter nonsense, no logical argument can be made against it. The pirates have good lawyers that can make an articulate, elegant case for war, that's all. But a smooth talking pirate is still a pirate, and what you're effectively saying is that he has a nice smile. Sorry babe, homey don't play that. They are all shit throwing monkeys.
No, terrorism is none of the reasons. The US employs* terrorists and hires mercenaries like everybody else that needs the service. They provoke and suppress riots depending on whose side they're on. Don't try to treat it as anything different than what it is. It's a business, nothing else. The idealism is a distraction. Actually a pretty good one, considering the kind of money it brings in.
*I hope you don't think these people do it for free.
If we were fighting terrorism, I could understand what you're saying. And coercing the "coalition" into playing along doesn't make it legitimate. The real pirates are the ones running the show.
Yep, the whole concept of *policy* is absolutely meaningless. It is time to replace hierarchical society. Let's make that technically infeasible, and we have a chance at making real progress
Yes, the IRS is the internal revenue service. Is it possible that import/export generates more revenue than the GDP? Well, if you consider contraband, probably. It has always been the revenuers that catch the biggest fish. DoJ still has to perform the prosecution though. DHS/ICE are just the cops. They are getting their orders from above. Though there's always the possibly of a turf war amongst them for a bigger piece of the action
Napolitano has prostituted herself and her agency to Big Business.
Actually the entire government is nothing but a branch of big business. Since the beginning. In fact who do you think sets up all governments? Who's got the brains and the money to do it? The moribund slobs in the street? I highly doubt it. Even they end up *hiring* somebody. And the value of music is probably better than the dollar right now. Probably more stable anyway.
I once thought that all this nonsense was the brainchild of the neoconservatives...
Well, that is true once you realize that both sides are actually conservative. Remember who passed DMCA and tried the push the clipper chip, national IDs, Defense of marriage, etc etc etc...
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So essentially it is fine to yell about, say, a teacher being a pedophile.
That's right. And the people who whould believe the accusation without checking are a bunch of dumbasses, pricks, and gossips. He should sue the people who fired him, not the guy talking about him.
Like it or not that is actually our system working.
You're right. That's why we must rip its heart out. This is absolute insanity.
Yes, human are like machines, and they can be programmed like machines. The programming error here is in the response mechanism. So, it is possible to program humans to think before they act. Society is programming kludge into the system by misdiagnosing the symptoms as the cause. And of course, it's intentional in that control of speech and thought is a very important tool of the authorities that are being defended by everybody here, if in a back handed way.
Does that mean we can extend our second amendment rights to possession of a concealed <flashy thing>?
Ah yes, The old "devil made me do it" defense.
Oops forgot:
War is insanely expensive...
Not to worry, your kids and grandkids will pay for it. You can enslave them with your debts. And there's always the cost/benefit ratio. Is the war more expensive than the expected plunder?
Reputation? Please! Who needs a reputation when you control the world's money supply. This isn't some hoity toity Hollywood bridge club here. They are criminals. Smooth talking thugs that have you all.
All wars are about piracy. I know you like to believe all that fancy talk, but that's what it boils down to. We fight our wars for money, and to plunder those weaker than us, period. Your leader, Jim Jones is calling you..
It's not us who are fucking retards...
Your post indicates otherwise. As it would for anybody who attempts to conflate speech and action. Even if you're not retarded, you're being lazy, looking for the convenient way out.
You the listener, are alone responsible for your actions. Your refusal to accept that is why there can be no further progress.
I deposit my money into Sealy Posturepedic...
Oh c'mon.. too simple. The guy pulling the trigger is the killer. There is nobody else.
Now, with voice activated machines. A voice can trigger a machine reliably. A machine can't choose to refuse. That's the key. So yeah, the voice is the trigger. But when you tell a person, it's another thing altogether. So let's make it easy. The last person in the chain is the guilty one..
Sorry for the second reply, but it needs to be asked.. again and again apparently. It's an old question. You may have heard it:
"What do you call it when the assassins accuse the assassin?"
You might never hear used as a pretext for starting a war, but since most, if not all wars are about economic, commercial plunder, copyright is as good as any other reason to start one. See first a country that doesn't respect another's copyright will meet up with economic "sanctions", then an embargo, later a blockade, which is considered an act of war by some. Now, don't you think that people who try to run the blockage are going to be shot if they don't obey an order to stop and be boarded? And if the blockade fails, don't think for a second that the final option won't be considered.
:) You win for best response..
This fatty's for you my brother
heh, the second one was cool :)
The person I responded to doesn't understand that real action is required to kill somebody. Words by themselves can do nothing. Somebody has to act. This point goes over everybody's head (including the moderators) every single time I try to bring this up. The man acquired nothing that wasn't given to him. He gained power through appeasement long before any military action was needed.
I do understand the framework. And precisely what I am saying is the frame is fucked up and must be ripped down. Babble all you want about the right to war, but remember it's not a one way street. There's also the right to fight back. The state shall never enjoy any more rights than any particular individual. War is always justified to beat back the authority. I have the same right to wage war against any state.
My feelings aren't important. The freedom to speak outweighs all of this bullshit. You simply refuse to understand what the hell I'm saying.
I'm just saying anything can be used to start a war. It just has to begin with somebody resisting an arrest (even for copyright infringement), and it can snowball from there. That's why all that mumbo-jumbo means nothing to me. The reach of the US and all the other imperial powers is global. Let's stop playing this silly game about "law" and such. There is no law. There are only contracts. And the worlds' militaries exist to enforce contracts.
...tens of millions died because of their words.
Yeah? How does that work? How does a word kill a person if it can't pick up a gun and pull the trigger? How does a word get up in the morning, take a shit and a shower, and put on its uniform? What size boot does a word wear?
If words can be become a threat to authority or corporate profit, they must be tightly controlled. This is one of a myriad ways of doing so while providing an illusion of protecting the public.
What's the alternative? You could decide to not believe hearsay. That is the only proper, civil response. But it's much easier to kill the messenger, as always.
You can believe what you choose to to believe. If you actually fall for that bureaucratic prattle, all I can say is, keep the faith. It is such utter nonsense, no logical argument can be made against it. The pirates have good lawyers that can make an articulate, elegant case for war, that's all. But a smooth talking pirate is still a pirate, and what you're effectively saying is that he has a nice smile. Sorry babe, homey don't play that. They are all shit throwing monkeys.
No, terrorism is none of the reasons. The US employs* terrorists and hires mercenaries like everybody else that needs the service. They provoke and suppress riots depending on whose side they're on. Don't try to treat it as anything different than what it is. It's a business, nothing else. The idealism is a distraction. Actually a pretty good one, considering the kind of money it brings in.
*I hope you don't think these people do it for free.
If we were fighting terrorism, I could understand what you're saying. And coercing the "coalition" into playing along doesn't make it legitimate. The real pirates are the ones running the show.
Yep, the whole concept of *policy* is absolutely meaningless. It is time to replace hierarchical society. Let's make that technically infeasible, and we have a chance at making real progress
Yes, the IRS is the internal revenue service. Is it possible that import/export generates more revenue than the GDP? Well, if you consider contraband, probably. It has always been the revenuers that catch the biggest fish. DoJ still has to perform the prosecution though. DHS/ICE are just the cops. They are getting their orders from above. Though there's always the possibly of a turf war amongst them for a bigger piece of the action
Napolitano has prostituted herself and her agency to Big Business.
Actually the entire government is nothing but a branch of big business. Since the beginning. In fact who do you think sets up all governments? Who's got the brains and the money to do it? The moribund slobs in the street? I highly doubt it. Even they end up *hiring* somebody. And the value of music is probably better than the dollar right now. Probably more stable anyway.
I once thought that all this nonsense was the brainchild of the neoconservatives...
Well, that is true once you realize that both sides are actually conservative. Remember who passed DMCA and tried the push the clipper chip, national IDs, Defense of marriage, etc etc etc...