but what if you wanted to run redhat WS 3+4 and debian sarge. the kernels there are not even close to being the same. Of course at this point it would be a big pain to even think about that, but after hardware virtualization gets in place its a no brainer.
2: Not just pay for but work with. This is the reason Xen has never really gotten into vanilla, even though it is supported directly by IBM, Intel and AMD.
Of course that is why _he_ switched. Your reasons may differ but I think that ability to alter code is much more important then stability, or else I would stop using gnome.
I just was messing with a simple network reporter app for our helpdesk amd looked at the examples for WMI. Took the scripts and re-did them in C#. Hey, they look like SQL... but they return Objects?!? Whoever designed that should never be allowed around a computer for the rest of their lives.
"If apache is compromised on a linux box, you have access to whatever user that services is setup to run as. I am sure the same would be true on windows."
I never said IIS didn't. Apache can in fact do this on unix and I bet it would on windows too. That only mitigates one web service from accessing another web services filesystem. Important, but is only the most basic kind of protection. Any system that is going to get certified for military use is going to do this. It isn't even close to being secure if you can do that, but would be utterly insecure not doing this.
If apache is compromised on a linux box, you have access to whatever user that services is setup to run as. I am sure the same would be true on windows. Linux offers me some very fine grained control over what those users can do including the root account. I am unsure if windows has anything like it, but my experience says no. I can further segregate services to have their own kernels so the OS does not interact with any other service in any possible way. I can't do that with windows without buying additional software.
Windows can be secured but not without additional purchases and ignoring history.
What obsoletes the internal combustion engine? Nothing exists that is as efficient, convientient and cheap as my car's engine. What else can travel for 400 miles on 12 gallons of fuel that has _me_ deciding it's route?
he may be off topic and insenstive, but the parent is right. If we could dump the lame repetive humor attempts this would be a much better place. Marking the GP as funny makes the moderation worthless.
That hunts for DHCP servers. While it's real nice (especially knowing that you could have it log into a managed switch and disable a port), it's not really capable of finding wireless access points at all. you _could_ do something close to this by fingerprinting all the devices on the network and reporting the switch it's plugged into and which port. The downsides of that approach is you would be dependent on your fingerprinting applications database and a good plug to plug map of your network.
In my experience, that map will never reflect reality and may cause many wild goose chases.
look, if the streets are so bad that your chances are good that you will get mugged, shot or carjacked but you don't armor plate your car, get bodyguards or someother defensive measure then it really doesn't matter who's fault it is that you got killed. You are already dead, so no amount of culpability is going to make you not so. You have been through it before and have been warned about the situation and it's consequences. At this point _you_ can't stop it from happening but _you_ can mitigate the risks.
While it was misleading to make it sound like primary blame was on the admins and users there is still plenty of blame to go around. My contention is that you either protect yourself or be prepared to accept the consequences. Blame and finger pointing are irrelevant.
It got marked insightful because ultimately people have to protect themselves from others. It is a shame people feel the compulsion to be destructive, but it is also reality. You can't avoid the fact that people _are_ going to do malicous actions against you. Law enforcement can only help you after the fact. To make matters worse, there seems to be a minimum value of damage before enforcement is even interested and it is beyond the kind of damage caused to an average individual.
That means others will not help you the individual (at home) or you the admin (at work) when some random person will try to do a malicious action against you. While this doesn't mean you the individual or admin are to blame for the malicious action, you are to blame when you didn't protect yourself when you could have with even minimal effort. Using computers, credit cards and telephones comes with a responsibilty that you cannot shirk and no one else can shelter you from. No amount of handwaving and blaming is going to protect you.
Besides Martha Stewart what high profile CEO's do you know that got charged with criminal fraud _weren't_ rich white men? Why is this generalization not OK WRT CEO's? Being reactionary is just as bad as being bigotted, as they both seem to come from a place of ignorance.
I see this as yet another fundemental misunderstanding of what security _is_ and how the proposed fix doesn't address the real problem in the least. As you correctly point out, admins and users are at fault here. The internet is a snapshot of society that has no boundaries. Anything that would happen in the real world will happen online. If purposeful defacement and destruction of property cannot be contained in the real world, nor will it online. Does the statement, "We should put to death people who create griffiti." even sound slightly rational?
"Under the law of nature, all men are born free, every one comes into the world with a right to his own person, which includes the liberty of moving and using it at his own will. This is what is called personal liberty, and is given him by the Author of nature, because necessary for his own sustenance."
--Thomas Jefferson, 1770
The founders of the united states had a clear understanding of personal responsibility and informed consent. You appear to have neither.
And yet still, I don't owe you anything including respect for your opinions. Your personal issues with the way the world works is your problem. Your ideas that others need to conform to your worldview is disgusting. Telling someone not to say what they think because it offends you is _your_ problem, not his. It was helpful _even if_ you didn't want to support the store the information came from. The DMCA passed because no one cares about it. If you want to make people aware of the issue, fine. Telling people what to do because of your politics is just your ugly desire to control others, not to actually help them.
why? What is wrong with amazon? if you don't like them you can always grab the isbn number and go to your libraries system to reserve a copy, go to broders, go to barnes and noble or even a store owned locally. The world isn't owed a favor to any degree and your suggestion that it is owed is offensive.
An IBM T42 works out of the gate and has since the first release. wireless, check. Video card, check. Sound, check. IM, check. music, check.
Linux desktop may still have some way to go, but the ground it has covered in the last three years is astounding. I can remember jiggering redhat 9 in major ways to get it working on a Dell gx260. That wasn't something my mother could have done. Heck, getting X to work in slackware around 95 almost killed me. Now I don't think there is any geek cred left in getting linux running on most hardware.
To be fair, it is BOTH the republicans and the democrats who are, at the point of a gun, taking your money and your childrens money. It doesn't matter who is doing the the taking, who they are giving it to or for what reason, the fact remains that people are doing it to you. You are the one they are enslaving for others benefits, rich, poor or otherwise.
Both parties are trying to take as much away from you as they can force and still keep their power. Instead of being disgusted about whose to benefit, you should be disgusted that they are holding a gun to your head.
Not disagreeing, just ammending... communists "In Theory" don't believe in property rights or a social elite. Communists "in practice" unfortunately believe in both.
The key difference isn't the "disconnected from the network" bit. The thing that a distributed CMS does is fundementally different than a central repository, since there is none. There is no single source of truth. Everybody is on equal footing with their own source tree and you are free to merge from everybody, nobody or just a select few. This isn't a model that works well for a single user application that only 3 people develop for... but it works wonders for a 6 million line count kernel developed by hundreds of people (granted only a fraction of that are regulars). Using SVN on the kernel would make revision control useless.
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but what if you wanted to run redhat WS 3+4 and debian sarge. the kernels there are not even close to being the same. Of course at this point it would be a big pain to even think about that, but after hardware virtualization gets in place its a no brainer.
1: hans?
2: Not just pay for but work with. This is the reason Xen has never really gotten into vanilla, even though it is supported directly by IBM, Intel and AMD.
Of course that is why _he_ switched. Your reasons may differ but I think that ability to alter code is much more important then stability, or else I would stop using gnome.
I just was messing with a simple network reporter app for our helpdesk amd looked at the examples for WMI. Took the scripts and re-did them in C#. Hey, they look like SQL ... but they return Objects?!? Whoever designed that should never be allowed around a computer for the rest of their lives.
And none of those things will cause billions in dollars of lost productivity. The worm is by far more damaging.
I never said IIS didn't. Apache can in fact do this on unix and I bet it would on windows too. That only mitigates one web service from accessing another web services filesystem. Important, but is only the most basic kind of protection. Any system that is going to get certified for military use is going to do this. It isn't even close to being secure if you can do that, but would be utterly insecure not doing this.
I don't think you understand security, so I am sorry, but its pointless to try to discuss this with you.
If apache is compromised on a linux box, you have access to whatever user that services is setup to run as. I am sure the same would be true on windows. Linux offers me some very fine grained control over what those users can do including the root account. I am unsure if windows has anything like it, but my experience says no. I can further segregate services to have their own kernels so the OS does not interact with any other service in any possible way. I can't do that with windows without buying additional software.
Windows can be secured but not without additional purchases and ignoring history.
What obsoletes the internal combustion engine? Nothing exists that is as efficient, convientient and cheap as my car's engine. What else can travel for 400 miles on 12 gallons of fuel that has _me_ deciding it's route?
he may be off topic and insenstive, but the parent is right. If we could dump the lame repetive humor attempts this would be a much better place. Marking the GP as funny makes the moderation worthless.
That hunts for DHCP servers. While it's real nice (especially knowing that you could have it log into a managed switch and disable a port), it's not really capable of finding wireless access points at all. you _could_ do something close to this by fingerprinting all the devices on the network and reporting the switch it's plugged into and which port. The downsides of that approach is you would be dependent on your fingerprinting applications database and a good plug to plug map of your network.
In my experience, that map will never reflect reality and may cause many wild goose chases.
look, if the streets are so bad that your chances are good that you will get mugged, shot or carjacked but you don't armor plate your car, get bodyguards or someother defensive measure then it really doesn't matter who's fault it is that you got killed. You are already dead, so no amount of culpability is going to make you not so. You have been through it before and have been warned about the situation and it's consequences. At this point _you_ can't stop it from happening but _you_ can mitigate the risks.
While it was misleading to make it sound like primary blame was on the admins and users there is still plenty of blame to go around. My contention is that you either protect yourself or be prepared to accept the consequences. Blame and finger pointing are irrelevant.
It got marked insightful because ultimately people have to protect themselves from others. It is a shame people feel the compulsion to be destructive, but it is also reality. You can't avoid the fact that people _are_ going to do malicous actions against you. Law enforcement can only help you after the fact. To make matters worse, there seems to be a minimum value of damage before enforcement is even interested and it is beyond the kind of damage caused to an average individual.
That means others will not help you the individual (at home) or you the admin (at work) when some random person will try to do a malicious action against you. While this doesn't mean you the individual or admin are to blame for the malicious action, you are to blame when you didn't protect yourself when you could have with even minimal effort. Using computers, credit cards and telephones comes with a responsibilty that you cannot shirk and no one else can shelter you from. No amount of handwaving and blaming is going to protect you.
Besides Martha Stewart what high profile CEO's do you know that got charged with criminal fraud _weren't_ rich white men? Why is this generalization not OK WRT CEO's? Being reactionary is just as bad as being bigotted, as they both seem to come from a place of ignorance.
I see this as yet another fundemental misunderstanding of what security _is_ and how the proposed fix doesn't address the real problem in the least. As you correctly point out, admins and users are at fault here. The internet is a snapshot of society that has no boundaries. Anything that would happen in the real world will happen online. If purposeful defacement and destruction of property cannot be contained in the real world, nor will it online. Does the statement, "We should put to death people who create griffiti." even sound slightly rational?
The founders of the united states had a clear understanding of personal responsibility and informed consent. You appear to have neither.
And yet still, I don't owe you anything including respect for your opinions. Your personal issues with the way the world works is your problem. Your ideas that others need to conform to your worldview is disgusting. Telling someone not to say what they think because it offends you is _your_ problem, not his. It was helpful _even if_ you didn't want to support the store the information came from. The DMCA passed because no one cares about it. If you want to make people aware of the issue, fine. Telling people what to do because of your politics is just your ugly desire to control others, not to actually help them.
why? What is wrong with amazon? if you don't like them you can always grab the isbn number and go to your libraries system to reserve a copy, go to broders, go to barnes and noble or even a store owned locally. The world isn't owed a favor to any degree and your suggestion that it is owed is offensive.
ubuntu takes a fraction of the time it takes me to boot windows. Neither of them are as fast as my car.
An IBM T42 works out of the gate and has since the first release. wireless, check. Video card, check. Sound, check. IM, check. music, check.
Linux desktop may still have some way to go, but the ground it has covered in the last three years is astounding. I can remember jiggering redhat 9 in major ways to get it working on a Dell gx260. That wasn't something my mother could have done. Heck, getting X to work in slackware around 95 almost killed me. Now I don't think there is any geek cred left in getting linux running on most hardware.
one comment about two... make sure it is to the DA and anonymous.
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To be fair, it is BOTH the republicans and the democrats who are, at the point of a gun, taking your money and your childrens money. It doesn't matter who is doing the the taking, who they are giving it to or for what reason, the fact remains that people are doing it to you. You are the one they are enslaving for others benefits, rich, poor or otherwise.
Both parties are trying to take as much away from you as they can force and still keep their power. Instead of being disgusted about whose to benefit, you should be disgusted that they are holding a gun to your head.
Not disagreeing, just ammending... communists "In Theory" don't believe in property rights or a social elite. Communists "in practice" unfortunately believe in both.
The key difference isn't the "disconnected from the network" bit. The thing that a distributed CMS does is fundementally different than a central repository, since there is none. There is no single source of truth. Everybody is on equal footing with their own source tree and you are free to merge from everybody, nobody or just a select few. This isn't a model that works well for a single user application that only 3 people develop for... but it works wonders for a 6 million line count kernel developed by hundreds of people (granted only a fraction of that are regulars). Using SVN on the kernel would make revision control useless.