>>> I guess I agree that Doom didn't have much story, but how can you say that Doom's only strongpoint was technology? >> DOOM could have been made by any of a dozen developers at that time. Oh really! Like who? Oh wait, you didn't say that, did you! -- see what it's like to have a completely idiot misquote you. You don't like it when the table turns.;-) Scott
It's funny to think that Kevin and Adrian would fire John Carmack, because that would be killing the goose that lays the golden eggs. Id wouldn't be id without John. Id and Carmack are one and the same, and if John is fired and starts a new game developer, then that might as well be called New-id, and the original id would be better called id-iots for firing their leader, visionary and easy ticket to continued success. Having known John since he entered the industry (I got id started, in fact), I know first-hand the real and only reason behind id's success, and his name is John. All others there are replaceable, as has been proven time and time again. -- Scott Miller
>>> . should start a fund to contribute to Sam Rami (or whoever owns the rights to the Army of Darkness script) so they can sue Apogee for ripping them off. I can't believe Apogee has the audacity to actually claim they have some sort of copyright on "Come get some" and "Hail to the King". Back up and try again -- but three strikes and yer out! heehe --Scott Miller
Thanks for the support... And to clarify, we trademarked "Hail to the king, baby". And "Hail to the king" itself was a reference for Elvis, going way back before the Evil Dead movies. Also, "Come get some" was not in Evil Dead--a very common misconception (they never end, it seems! )--it was "Who wants some" in that movie. Scott Miller
No you didn't miss anything. Seriously. You're one of the very few who actually applied some gray matter to the issue and figured out the sky isn't falling. However, in a forum like this where ignorance and confusion can run rampant and feed upon itself, there's little use in expecting common sense to prevail. Tomorrow, though, it'll all have blown over.;-) It always does... Scott Miller
I have never seen so many dumbass comments in my life! Most (not all...whew!) people are simply beyond clueless about free speech and law--that much is apparent...and scary to think about! Okay, people, Apogee is not out to stop free speech. Sheeshes! Here's how I'm responding to all the chicken littles and who sent me email: Anyone who thinks we are trying to control reviews and such are jumping on a bandwagon without really giving it proper consideration. Legally, that's entirely impossible -- but then, most people know less about law than they do making ice.;-) This policy/agreement simply allows fan sites to use our trademarks and copyright character art, etc. Most developers/publishers do not allow this at all. End of story. We are providing a way for them to do so, though. Lay people, of course, read this policy and become panic mongers. This policy is only for owners of web sites who wish to use our trademarks and copyrights, like www.3dportal.com. Somehow, someone found a link to it and of course jumps to the wrong conclusion, because...hey...it then can become a hot topic. Yippee. Don't we live in a fun society? We might need to make it more clear that reviews are--of course!--not what concern us (nor could we legally prevent negative reviews--that's patently absurd). It's a web site using our logos next to overly foul, abusive, racist, etc. language or art. For example, we would not allow our logos to be used on a porn site. ----- Okay, we can all return to our normal life now--after all, tomorrow will present a new burden on society, demon to kill, and issue to get us all hot and bothered about. Ain't life silly in that way!:-) Scott Miller, Apogee / 3D Realms
>>> Come get some - ask Bruce Campbell about this one Hail to the king - and this one too... Allow me to correct your ignorance. Hail to the king was popularized in connection with Elvis -- did you miss that?! I thought so -- consider yourself among the informed, now.;-) In the Evil Dead movie, Ash's line was "Who wants some." See the difference? Be honest with yourself, do you? There you go...all better now.:-) Scott
A standard reponse to the madness!;-) I must say this is just entirely too funny. And a sad commentary on how little most people understand law. I will say that anyone who thinks we are trying to control reviews and such are clueless morons. Legally, that's impossible -- but then, most people know less about law than they do making ice.;-) This policy/agreement simply allows fan sites to use our trademarks and copyright character art, etc. Most developers/publishers do not allow this at all. End of story. We are providing a way for them to do so, though. Lay people, of course, read this policy and become panic mongers. Oh so typical in our society. hee hee Sheesh! Back to important work... Scott Miller, 3D Realms
One of the most important, most beneficial, and most powerful leadership indicators is *being first*. AMD reaching the 1Gig mark first is a momumental achievement that cannot be underplayed by them. They now have bragging rights, Intel is sloppy second, even if they're just one day late doing the same thing. What's the name of the second person to fly the Atlantic solo? What's the name of the second cloned animal? Who was the second person to step foot on the moon? Who was the second person to run a mile in a minute? Who was the second person to fly faster than mach one? Who was the second President? People generally don't have enough brain space to remember seconds, so we only remember the leaders, the #1's, the top dogs in any particular category. Any marketing book worth a hoot, such as The 22 Immutable Laws of Marketing, will underline the incredible advantages of being the first to reach an important milestone, such as this one. AMD is quite smart pointing out this fact in no uncertain terms. When you're second, few people care--that's simple basic human nature. Scott Miller, 3D Realms
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>>> I guess I agree that Doom didn't have much story, but how can you say that Doom's only strongpoint was technology? >> DOOM could have been made by any of a dozen developers at that time. Oh really! Like who? Oh wait, you didn't say that, did you! -- see what it's like to have a completely idiot misquote you. You don't like it when the table turns. ;-) Scott
It's funny to think that Kevin and Adrian would fire John Carmack, because that would be killing the goose that lays the golden eggs. Id wouldn't be id without John. Id and Carmack are one and the same, and if John is fired and starts a new game developer, then that might as well be called New-id, and the original id would be better called id-iots for firing their leader, visionary and easy ticket to continued success. Having known John since he entered the industry (I got id started, in fact), I know first-hand the real and only reason behind id's success, and his name is John. All others there are replaceable, as has been proven time and time again. -- Scott Miller
>>> . should start a fund to contribute to Sam Rami (or whoever owns the rights to the Army of Darkness script) so they can sue Apogee for ripping them off. I can't believe Apogee has the audacity to actually claim they have some sort of copyright on "Come get some" and "Hail to the King". Back up and try again -- but three strikes and yer out! heehe --Scott Miller
Thanks for the support ... And to clarify, we trademarked "Hail to the king, baby". And "Hail to the king" itself was a reference for Elvis, going way back before the Evil Dead movies. Also, "Come get some" was not in Evil Dead--a very common misconception (they never end, it seems! )--it was "Who wants some" in that movie. Scott Miller
No you didn't miss anything. Seriously. You're one of the very few who actually applied some gray matter to the issue and figured out the sky isn't falling. However, in a forum like this where ignorance and confusion can run rampant and feed upon itself, there's little use in expecting common sense to prevail. Tomorrow, though, it'll all have blown over. ;-) It always does... Scott Miller
Cool, I get to educate people about free speech -- a very worthy use of my time. ;-) Scott
I have never seen so many dumbass comments in my life! Most (not all...whew!) people are simply beyond clueless about free speech and law--that much is apparent...and scary to think about! Okay, people, Apogee is not out to stop free speech. Sheeshes! Here's how I'm responding to all the chicken littles and who sent me email: Anyone who thinks we are trying to control reviews and such are jumping on a bandwagon without really giving it proper consideration. Legally, that's entirely impossible -- but then, most people know less about law than they do making ice. ;-) This policy/agreement simply allows fan sites to use our trademarks and copyright character art, etc. Most developers/publishers do not allow this at all. End of story. We are providing a way for them to do so, though. Lay people, of course, read this policy and become panic mongers. This policy is only for owners of web sites who wish to use our trademarks and copyrights, like www.3dportal.com. Somehow, someone found a link to it and of course jumps to the wrong conclusion, because...hey...it then can become a hot topic. Yippee. Don't we live in a fun society? We might need to make it more clear that reviews are--of course!--not what concern us (nor could we legally prevent negative reviews--that's patently absurd). It's a web site using our logos next to overly foul, abusive, racist, etc. language or art. For example, we would not allow our logos to be used on a porn site. ----- Okay, we can all return to our normal life now--after all, tomorrow will present a new burden on society, demon to kill, and issue to get us all hot and bothered about. Ain't life silly in that way! :-) Scott Miller, Apogee / 3D Realms
>>> Come get some - ask Bruce Campbell about this one Hail to the king - and this one too... Allow me to correct your ignorance. Hail to the king was popularized in connection with Elvis -- did you miss that?! I thought so -- consider yourself among the informed, now. ;-) In the Evil Dead movie, Ash's line was "Who wants some." See the difference? Be honest with yourself, do you? There you go...all better now. :-) Scott
A standard reponse to the madness! ;-) I must say this is just entirely too funny. And a sad commentary on how little most people understand law. I will say that anyone who thinks we are trying to control reviews and such are clueless morons. Legally, that's impossible -- but then, most people know less about law than they do making ice. ;-) This policy/agreement simply allows fan sites to use our trademarks and copyright character art, etc. Most developers/publishers do not allow this at all. End of story. We are providing a way for them to do so, though. Lay people, of course, read this policy and become panic mongers. Oh so typical in our society. hee hee Sheesh! Back to important work... Scott Miller, 3D Realms
One of the most important, most beneficial, and most powerful leadership indicators is *being first*. AMD reaching the 1Gig mark first is a momumental achievement that cannot be underplayed by them. They now have bragging rights, Intel is sloppy second, even if they're just one day late doing the same thing. What's the name of the second person to fly the Atlantic solo? What's the name of the second cloned animal? Who was the second person to step foot on the moon? Who was the second person to run a mile in a minute? Who was the second person to fly faster than mach one? Who was the second President? People generally don't have enough brain space to remember seconds, so we only remember the leaders, the #1's, the top dogs in any particular category. Any marketing book worth a hoot, such as The 22 Immutable Laws of Marketing, will underline the incredible advantages of being the first to reach an important milestone, such as this one. AMD is quite smart pointing out this fact in no uncertain terms. When you're second, few people care--that's simple basic human nature. Scott Miller, 3D Realms