As those who did read the projects weblog might have noticed, they are currently not offering a VM.
There is an interpreter for the Hitachi microcontroller and a GCC IL frontend available. Thus you can run.NET in the RCX, just not in a VM. The interpreter might be extended to become an VM, but as some have already pointed out, this doesn't make much sense.
From what I understand form these slides (http://www.dcl.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/ablage/Micro.pd f) The aim is to have a fully integrated experimentation system, including the ability to launch experiments from remote locations etc.
After all the project is done by a middleware focused group, so they want to connect different platforms I assume:-)
if both are making a profit
Well this is, _if_ they are making a profit, which I'm not sure they are... economic profit != earnings.
As to the "growing the market", well, that would be against the rules (of perfekt markets, or isn't it, not that sure on that one...), but I've to admit, it's a way to escape this dilema.I'm tired too, but I enjoyed one of the few educated discussions on non-computer topics at/. --
they are willing to spend the money on them just because they *believe* they are working.
Sorry, but we can proof ads are working, have a look on regression and corelational methods...true, they are not perfekt, and sometimes even flawed, but they still tell you if you marketing strategy works out. That is, if your advertisment spending are related to your sellings. In other news RIO is nothing you would aply to ad-spendings, since ads are no investments (I think they are rather "cash-flow", sorry, my accounting english is not much good/me -.de), AFAIK. --
1) Please proof me wrong, aren't consumers, who have a need to jump the coupon-hurdle the ones who care the least about brands? And isn't the coupon stuff the tool to get higher prices from well-earning consumers while still getting a little from thoes who do no have that high a willingness-to-pay? Thus I follow they are no valid marketing tool, and cannot enter the comparison with banner-ads.
2) Isn't Coke just paying that much, because if they wouldn't Pepsi would win a substantial part of Cokes share? Following from that Pepsi and Coke are duopolists, much in a way Bertrand and friends explained, thus, we find a long-run equilibrium.
This leaves an other question, aren't banner-ads and TV/radio ads complementary? The TV/radio ads are largly succesful, because they are present in most of the time we spend on non-working duty, banner-ads could fill the gap and provide consumer access, even when he is "working" e.g. searching the net for some info. I hope no real world marketing model will use _only_ banners, but they should not underestimate them either. Do I have a point?
BTW: No MBA nessesary, 4 terms economical CS will do. And I think most/.ers are quite familiar with BA anyway... --
Well, I think he has (at least) some points, thought his arguments are not really backed, but, I feel the same about Net/Open BSD. I'd rather see more developers engaged in FreeBSD. That way the community could focus on one project, and important code changes/rewrites could be acomplished much faster.It would also help people to help others, because configuration would be more unified.
I'm employing FreeBSD on _all_ our firewalls, and it's a charm! And that impressed quite some of my mates, at least 20% switched thier servers to FreeBSD as well. Finaly, I don't think BSD is dead, but I do think as Linux gets more attention, *BSD might loose some share. As to the elitist nature of *BSD communities, I just think, that it rises the bar for stupid questions, which helps a lot. That way user learn to help themselfe, and reale trouble has the nessesary ressources if needed. --
XP also incorporates online authentication using Microsoft's Password, so once you get online with Windows XP, you're automatically logged in to any Microsoft partner sites you visit
As a paranoid person I am, I got scare out of my mind when I read this! Hell, where are the classic security features like multiple credentials and so on? Does SSO realy gets the ups? I hope not, imagien a user on the phone: "Hi, I'm calling to ask why I'm asked a password, what is this?"
No, I hope they turn this feature off, its too dangerous for the avarage user. If they do that much protection-off-the-user-itself-stuff, this should be included. BTW there goes the privacy of milllions of users... oh brave new user, be my consumer! --
Sorry about replying to my own comment, but I suppose it's interessting, that the hole eMexico stuff is not _at all_ about saving money, it's a much broader concept. I've been suspiciuois from the start, Mr. Cerisola does know about costs, some reasons my be found here
In this broader concept it may make sense, and possibly get fewer money in US ISP's:-) --
AFAIK the project was canceled, I for my part used it as argument for _not_ blindly trusting OpenSourcen in education. My point was, that even OpenSource computer require attention, mainly by more ore less specialized (and expensive)staff. This may change in the US, where a critical mass in not MS OS aware people as been built up over the years, but in Mexico it's still a problem, as well as in.ch... OpenSource is great, but there are costs, that's why one has to look carefully on the task done by it.
The other problme is home made, recently I had a lively discussion about why Mexico is still getting new (economical) problmes, one outcome was externalties, which means, mexicans optimze individualy (I lived there for about 3 years, trust me on that one!), which in return prevents reaching a global optimum (Which requires marginal product maximizing over the hole econemy).
Well, I think they won't save much in deploying Linux, if this is not backed by user education as well, which will rise the costs even more.
And, I think the are headed the wrong way:
Utilizar y mejorar Linux?, no, no lo vamos a mejorar nosotros, hay mucha gente en el mundo mejorándolo
Translation:Improving Linux? No, we won't improve it, there are many people in the world improving it.
The article also states, that they _don't_ have any fixed roll-out schedule, nor are they having an estimate, on how much should be saved, they are just doing it. Man, this is ill headed! --
It think this is quite true. I realized that math could really be fun until now, that I attend colleg. The broad application of math to the most common problems in life is beathtaking. It's quite interesting how the most complex human reactions could get analized by mainly simple mathematical methods.
I'm in CS and economics right now, and in both areas math is much more than just a tool (thought most people don't realize...).
But, I belive it's mandatory, that basic concepts are knowen, before any creativity could take off. That may be boring for some, but its still a requirement. --
Ok, this is the proof of some things we have always done. Try and see it'll work! We do it while coding: add-more-code, gcc, add-more-code, gcc, delete-the-bad-code, gcc... finaly the math guys found out about it. Now, we'll see a hole lot more OpenSource math. "Uh, well, its not quite a Lema, but nobody proofed it wrong, so it may work." Acctualy a Ph.D guy with the uni in Zurich tiped me off, that much math research is done that way... --
Oh yeh, I've this PVR, that WebPad, this RoboDog and my cute little RoboCat which hunts 15.87253min a day the old bird (the one still made by mother nature). And I can tell ya, the new in-glas display is awsome. Well fair enough, I have to admit, I have not at all enought time to spend my time with all these gadgets. So anybody has a offering?
See the point? Its just not efficient to have dozends of devices, spilling your memo, your.ppt, the new style guide and this freaking assambler pice on n number of different devices. I like my laptop, and a attach everything needet to it. No hassle, more work done! --
Well, this is crap,
Let's redesign the internet, change the protocols and network stacks all over the fucking planet! Never intruducing DNS! Lets use IPv12 using a 1024bit address space, and ask users to write the numbers they think important on a paper strip.
Hey, why don't we just use random 1024bit addresses, huh, this would be fun.
Get real, changing _anything_ in DNS and or the way people use it takes huge amounts of $$$ and time. Won't happen! Plain as this, and if something will happen, then it's going to get more comfortable (read: IPv6), then more complicated. --
I've set up some bandwidth limits on our FWs, in the beginning due to be less vulnerable to DDOS and then to restrict our users from scanning the net. Well, Gnutella is worse! On one of our smaller boxes crashed, the system locked up due to too many traffic (No, it wasn't Linux, nor Windows). It turned up, that some Looser changed the minimum connection setting to _100_!
Now I had to block the default Gnutella ports on the FWs, hopping most users won't find out, and thoes who do are less stupid... --
Hi, I've just taken a quick look at thier website, and they are as friendly as to provide the mail of the responsible person. Feel free to drop him a note, saying how wrong he is doing such a thing. --
... is what I like to ask. This may be off-topic, but I'm confused by the more and more common usage of german wording in/. and quite some other posts on the net. So anybody knows where and why this verboten-movement started ? --
I'm _not_ sure about this idea, but, I seem to remember an articel in a german since magazine, talking about patents. They where discusing wether or wether not some researchers are posting patents just to get more funding. If this is true, it may be a reason for some of the more stupid patents.
A relationship on bad/.posts and Karma comes to my mind just now...
Your point is quite obviously true. Patents does slow the technical evolution. But - and I personaly understand "thier" but - they argue, that it is an economical need to have patents granted, if you have to invest Billions in investigation and research projects. Well, anyone might argue: "Oh, why don't they do OpenGenetics, and donate Sequencer and all the BioTech equipement to some fellow researcher?" This is not as easy as it seems! There are hole countries, a lot of lives and soules involved in this kind of infrastructure. Since it is easy to reasable the rules-of-war in the Software corner (Since most factors are highly mobile). That does not mean it is as easy in the rest of the world.
I do agree, please, no misunderstanding, that interlectual property should be mobile in any sense. But some fields need more time than others. It's good to show, that we want less patents, but we have to realize, that they won't go away for the next, say 30 years.
... bad implementation. I know it may be unpopular among slashdoters, but please hold one minute and think again. Now, how would any of you like to find out that this most destructive attack last weekend not only made a complete mess of you data center, it also placed you right out of business, no data, no money! Cute, isn't it ? Oh, and the guy you traked down is from irak, and you can't get to him (NATO refused bombing). Well, I do not favour E-Commerce and all this E-everything, but its time to do a reality check. Everywhere, where many people live together certain basic rules have to be established. Misbehaviour has to be punished in some way. It may not be the job of some so-called "Cybercrime" organizations to enforce how the punishment has to be done. But I could well think of some "OrganiNet" much like ICANN, to achive this. I think its time to say this, Information wants to be free, property does not! Lets just do an RFC or a Draft,-)
Just wanting to be a little critc here. FLAME OFF --
And whilst I applaud the stand he has chosen to make, I am (again) forced to ask the question, will he be able to acheive any of this? His policy seems to be in direct violation of what business
interests want, and it also seems as though this kind of anarchist manifesto brings its own dangers.
This is quite true, but, in a world where every single descision represents just the most common features of both parties. In such a world both parties need to take extream positions, just to achive a little of thier original intention. Hope you get what I mean:-) It's quite too early to do serious writing...
Look, its just like on a near east market, if you want to buy a, say, cat, and you think its worth 10$, you start your bid at 1$, that leaves you with some air to bargain. --
... for blind people. AFAIK blind computer users
can't get the full advantage of GUI. But with this
device (it its reliable) they may get a step closer to bring all those cool blind hackers on the net. WOW, I think the world is getting much more interesting:-)
Imagen a mail like : "I literaly cracked your web server with bare hands...". No excuse for companies not hiering blind guys, because they may become a major threat to computer security, if they use all the "spare" time on cracking. YEAH, this guruntees my job for a few years more.
P.S.
I don't intend to make fun of people not being able to see that well, in fact I'm quite up-set with my eys myself:-) --
I tend to agree, RH is not my idea of a releiable, stabel and secure OS. I think I don't need to quote (as others may do because of lacking arguments), but it is understood among most of us, that RH provides quite a lot of exploitable binaries, and misconfigurations out of the box. Not even thinking about the "non-standard" issues in placing configuration files were no non-RH guy will search for them.
Never the less, RH does have certain advantages in comparison to other so called "free Linux distributions", its widely known, and supports poppular OSS projects. Those may be a few of the reasons, IBM choose RH instead of choosing Debin or Suse or just Slackware.
Personaly I thing IBM will take RH, and compile everything from square on, then calling the compleatly new distribution something like "RedHat 7.1 IBM Edition 1R4" --
I think you miss the point, in thinking anybody is talking about 100-atomic-proof-% secure systems here. They ask for a "usable"-guide on which system to use on which task. This is, however, quite an effort, but it's an effort we have to look into. A working rating system on how good software defends against certain kinds of attacks will help preventing stupid decisions from even more stupid suites. IMHO thats what really is the point:-)
btw.: And yes security can just be aproximated, but you have to make dam sure your alpha-error is well below 0.05 if you talk about some real aplication.
sorry on the spelling... my brain got time damaged today.
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As those who did read the projects weblog might have noticed, they are currently not offering a VM.
.NET in the RCX, just not in a VM. The interpreter might be extended to become an VM, but as some have already pointed out, this doesn't make much sense.
There is an interpreter for the Hitachi microcontroller and a GCC IL frontend available. Thus you can run
From what I understand form these slides (http://www.dcl.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/ablage/Micro.pd f) The aim is to have a fully integrated experimentation system, including the ability to launch experiments from remote locations etc.
:-)
After all the project is done by a middleware focused group, so they want to connect different platforms I assume
if both are making a profit /.
Well this is, _if_ they are making a profit, which I'm not sure they are... economic profit != earnings.
As to the "growing the market", well, that would be against the rules (of perfekt markets, or isn't it, not that sure on that one...), but I've to admit, it's a way to escape this dilema.I'm tired too, but I enjoyed one of the few educated discussions on non-computer topics at
--
they are willing to spend the money on them just because they *believe* they are working. /me - .de), AFAIK.
Sorry, but we can proof ads are working, have a look on regression and corelational methods...true, they are not perfekt, and sometimes even flawed, but they still tell you if you marketing strategy works out. That is, if your advertisment spending are related to your sellings. In other news RIO is nothing you would aply to ad-spendings, since ads are no investments (I think they are rather "cash-flow", sorry, my accounting english is not much good
--
1) Please proof me wrong, aren't consumers, who have a need to jump the coupon-hurdle the ones who care the least about brands? And isn't the coupon stuff the tool to get higher prices from well-earning consumers while still getting a little from thoes who do no have that high a willingness-to-pay? Thus I follow they are no valid marketing tool, and cannot enter the comparison with banner-ads.
2) Isn't Coke just paying that much, because if they wouldn't Pepsi would win a substantial part of Cokes share? Following from that Pepsi and Coke are duopolists, much in a way Bertrand and friends explained, thus, we find a long-run equilibrium.
This leaves an other question, aren't banner-ads and TV/radio ads complementary? The TV/radio ads are largly succesful, because they are present in most of the time we spend on non-working duty, banner-ads could fill the gap and provide consumer access, even when he is "working" e.g. searching the net for some info. I hope no real world marketing model will use _only_ banners, but they should not underestimate them either. Do I have a point?
BTW: No MBA nessesary, 4 terms economical CS will do. And I think most /.ers are quite familiar with BA anyway...
--
Well, I think he has (at least) some points, thought his arguments are not really backed, but, I feel the same about Net/Open BSD. I'd rather see more developers engaged in FreeBSD. That way the community could focus on one project, and important code changes/rewrites could be acomplished much faster.It would also help people to help others, because configuration would be more unified.
I'm employing FreeBSD on _all_ our firewalls, and it's a charm! And that impressed quite some of my mates, at least 20% switched thier servers to FreeBSD as well. Finaly, I don't think BSD is dead, but I do think as Linux gets more attention, *BSD might loose some share. As to the elitist nature of *BSD communities, I just think, that it rises the bar for stupid questions, which helps a lot. That way user learn to help themselfe, and reale trouble has the nessesary ressources if needed.
--
It's about 1.5GB all inclusive. But it sure as hell looks nice ... I even felt the bit of curruption and had to hury booting back to my shell :)
Well, I won't complain, MS does some good and some bad stuff VS .Net is the good stuff, the rest does not need to be of any interest at all.
--
As a paranoid person I am, I got scare out of my mind when I read this! Hell, where are the classic security features like multiple credentials and so on? Does SSO realy gets the ups? I hope not, imagien a user on the phone: "Hi, I'm calling to ask why I'm asked a password, what is this?"
No, I hope they turn this feature off, its too dangerous for the avarage user. If they do that much protection-off-the-user-itself-stuff, this should be included. BTW there goes the privacy of milllions of users... oh brave new user, be my consumer!
--
Sorry about replying to my own comment, but I suppose it's interessting, that the hole eMexico stuff is not _at all_ about saving money, it's a much broader concept. I've been suspiciuois from the start, Mr. Cerisola does know about costs, some reasons my be found here
:-)
In this broader concept it may make sense, and possibly get fewer money in US ISP's
--
AFAIK the project was canceled, I for my part used it as argument for _not_ blindly trusting OpenSourcen in education. My point was, that even OpenSource computer require attention, mainly by more ore less specialized (and expensive)staff. This may change in the US, where a critical mass in not MS OS aware people as been built up over the years, but in Mexico it's still a problem, as well as in .ch ... OpenSource is great, but there are costs, that's why one has to look carefully on the task done by it.
The other problme is home made, recently I had a lively discussion about why Mexico is still getting new (economical) problmes, one outcome was externalties, which means, mexicans optimze individualy (I lived there for about 3 years, trust me on that one!), which in return prevents reaching a global optimum (Which requires marginal product maximizing over the hole econemy).
Well, I think they won't save much in deploying Linux, if this is not backed by user education as well, which will rise the costs even more.
And, I think the are headed the wrong way:
Utilizar y mejorar Linux?, no, no lo vamos a mejorar nosotros, hay mucha gente en el mundo mejorándolo
Translation:Improving Linux? No, we won't improve it, there are many people in the world improving it.
The article also states, that they _don't_ have any fixed roll-out schedule, nor are they having an estimate, on how much should be saved, they are just doing it. Man, this is ill headed!
--
It think this is quite true. I realized that math could really be fun until now, that I attend colleg. The broad application of math to the most common problems in life is beathtaking. It's quite interesting how the most complex human reactions could get analized by mainly simple mathematical methods.
I'm in CS and economics right now, and in both areas math is much more than just a tool (thought most people don't realize...).
But, I belive it's mandatory, that basic concepts are knowen, before any creativity could take off. That may be boring for some, but its still a requirement.
--
Ok, this is the proof of some things we have always done. Try and see it'll work! We do it while coding: add-more-code, gcc, add-more-code, gcc, delete-the-bad-code, gcc ... finaly the math guys found out about it. Now, we'll see a hole lot more OpenSource math. "Uh, well, its not quite a Lema, but nobody proofed it wrong, so it may work." Acctualy a Ph.D guy with the uni in Zurich tiped me off, that much math research is done that way ...
--
Oh yeh, I've this PVR, that WebPad, this RoboDog and my cute little RoboCat which hunts 15.87253min a day the old bird (the one still made by mother nature). And I can tell ya, the new in-glas display is awsome. Well fair enough, I have to admit, I have not at all enought time to spend my time with all these gadgets. So anybody has a offering? .ppt, the new style guide and this freaking assambler pice on n number of different devices. I like my laptop, and a attach everything needet to it. No hassle, more work done!
See the point? Its just not efficient to have dozends of devices, spilling your memo, your
--
Well, this is crap, Let's redesign the internet, change the protocols and network stacks all over the fucking planet! Never intruducing DNS! Lets use IPv12 using a 1024bit address space, and ask users to write the numbers they think important on a paper strip.
Hey, why don't we just use random 1024bit addresses, huh, this would be fun.
Get real, changing _anything_ in DNS and or the way people use it takes huge amounts of $$$ and time. Won't happen! Plain as this, and if something will happen, then it's going to get more comfortable (read: IPv6), then more complicated.
--
I've set up some bandwidth limits on our FWs, in the beginning due to be less vulnerable to DDOS and then to restrict our users from scanning the net. Well, Gnutella is worse! On one of our smaller boxes crashed, the system locked up due to too many traffic (No, it wasn't Linux, nor Windows). It turned up, that some Looser changed the minimum connection setting to _100_!
Now I had to block the default Gnutella ports on the FWs, hopping most users won't find out, and thoes who do are less stupid...
--
Hi, I've just taken a quick look at thier website, and they are as friendly as to provide the mail of the responsible person. Feel free to drop him a note, saying how wrong he is doing such a thing.
--
I always thought a DB's indexing technique is the hole power of it. Mounting a DB as a fs just don't seem useful (in a speed concerning way) to me.
--
... is what I like to ask. This may be off-topic, but I'm confused by the more and more common usage of german wording in /. and quite some other posts on the net. So anybody knows where and why this verboten-movement started ?
--
I'm _not_ sure about this idea, but, I seem to remember an articel in a german since magazine, talking about patents. They where discusing wether or wether not some researchers are posting patents just to get more funding. If this is true, it may be a reason for some of the more stupid patents.
/.posts and Karma comes to my mind just now ...
A relationship on bad
flame off
--
Your point is quite obviously true. Patents does slow the technical evolution. But - and I personaly understand "thier" but - they argue, that it is an economical need to have patents granted, if you have to invest Billions in investigation and research projects. Well, anyone might argue: "Oh, why don't they do OpenGenetics, and donate Sequencer and all the BioTech equipement to some fellow researcher?" This is not as easy as it seems! There are hole countries, a lot of lives and soules involved in this kind of infrastructure. Since it is easy to reasable the rules-of-war in the Software corner (Since most factors are highly mobile). That does not mean it is as easy in the rest of the world.
I do agree, please, no misunderstanding, that interlectual property should be mobile in any sense. But some fields need more time than others. It's good to show, that we want less patents, but we have to realize, that they won't go away for the next, say 30 years.
flame off
--
... bad implementation. I know it may be unpopular among slashdoters, but please hold one minute and think again. Now, how would any of you like to find out that this most destructive attack last weekend not only made a complete mess of you data center, it also placed you right out of business, no data, no money! Cute, isn't it ? Oh, and the guy you traked down is from irak, and you can't get to him (NATO refused bombing). Well, I do not favour E-Commerce and all this E-everything, but its time to do a reality check. Everywhere, where many people live together certain basic rules have to be established. Misbehaviour has to be punished in some way. It may not be the job of some so-called "Cybercrime" organizations to enforce how the punishment has to be done. But I could well think of some "OrganiNet" much like ICANN, to achive this. I think its time to say this, Information wants to be free, property does not! Lets just do an RFC or a Draft ,-)
Just wanting to be a little critc here. FLAME OFF
--
And whilst I applaud the stand he has chosen to make, I am (again) forced to ask the question, will he be able to acheive any of this? His policy seems to be in direct violation of what business interests want, and it also seems as though this kind of anarchist manifesto brings its own dangers.
:-) It's quite too early to do serious writing...
This is quite true, but, in a world where every single descision represents just the most common features of both parties. In such a world both parties need to take extream positions, just to achive a little of thier original intention. Hope you get what I mean
Look, its just like on a near east market, if you want to buy a, say, cat, and you think its worth 10$, you start your bid at 1$, that leaves you with some air to bargain.
--
... for blind people. AFAIK blind computer users can't get the full advantage of GUI. But with this device (it its reliable) they may get a step closer to bring all those cool blind hackers on the net. WOW, I think the world is getting much more interesting :-)
Imagen a mail like : "I literaly cracked your web server with bare hands...". No excuse for companies not hiering blind guys, because they may become a major threat to computer security, if they use all the "spare" time on cracking. YEAH, this guruntees my job for a few years more.
:-)
P.S. I don't intend to make fun of people not being able to see that well, in fact I'm quite up-set with my eys myself
--
I tend to agree, RH is not my idea of a releiable, stabel and secure OS. I think I don't need to quote (as others may do because of lacking arguments), but it is understood among most of us, that RH provides quite a lot of exploitable binaries, and misconfigurations out of the box. Not even thinking about the "non-standard" issues in placing configuration files were no non-RH guy will search for them.
Never the less, RH does have certain advantages in comparison to other so called "free Linux distributions", its widely known, and supports poppular OSS projects. Those may be a few of the reasons, IBM choose RH instead of choosing Debin or Suse or just Slackware.
Personaly I thing IBM will take RH, and compile everything from square on, then calling the compleatly new distribution something like "RedHat 7.1 IBM Edition 1R4"
--
I think you miss the point, in thinking anybody is talking about 100-atomic-proof-% secure systems here. They ask for a "usable"-guide on which system to use on which task. This is, however, quite an effort, but it's an effort we have to look into. A working rating system on how good software defends against certain kinds of attacks will help preventing stupid decisions from even more stupid suites. IMHO thats what really is the point :-)
... my brain got time damaged today.
btw.: And yes security can just be aproximated, but you have to make dam sure your alpha-error is well below 0.05 if you talk about some real aplication.
sorry on the spelling