To add, Ravi Mandali's first version of his spam site was called "Hypno Security" which just basically regurgitated a couple of paragraphs of other people's news as "articles" and started spamming it here.
LOVEINT wasn't an abuse? The FISA courts taking about how the NSA was deceiving them wasn't abuse? What the fuck is Hayden smoking to be making such outlandish claims?
How exactly am I forcing you to do anything? I have no power of government. Seriously, just because someone is not a mouth-frothing libertardian doesn't mean they support Obama. Maybe you should redirect your butthurt to an actual Obama supporter?
You seem to be confusing "social contract" with "social justice". Social contract is a 17th century Enlightenment concept. It has little to do with Obama or his supporters.
Just to add, I love how I've both been called an Obama lover when I don't froth at the mouth over every libertardian anti-Obama talking point or criticize Dubya and at the same time I've been called a Dubya lover for all the criticisms of Obama I've made.
Seems like today I've been labeled the former. I await to amusingly be called the latter again in the future.
I support Obama? That's news to me since I didn't vote for him in either election. And, no, I didn't vote for either of the Republican dunces who ran against him. I simply have no sympathy for libertardians.
In short, neither Microsoft nor Yahoo fought the issue and didn't require a court order.
Yeah, and? What relevance does that have to anything? ISPs has given law enforcement information on criminals before the Patriot Act or NSA's mass snooping on US citizens.
The information is consistent with what we've learned about the operations of the NSA involving those companies.
Except your article specifically makes no mention of any NSA involvement. It clearly states only the FBI and the two companies.
Even given NSA's involvement they clearly have wanted to stay out of the spotlight and would likely have handed the information to the FBI which has liaisons with overseas law enforcement agencies.
They were involved? You have proof of this? The article makes no such mention. To quote:
The documents stated that as early as December 2007, the FBI handed Belgian authorities a disc with information relating to these e-mail addresses that had been provided to the FBI by Microsoft and Yahoo.
And claiming the NSA was trying to stay out of the spotlight? Bullshit. You're now simply making shit up now after being proven wrong by your own supposed evidence.
At the end you are still stuck trying to explain how US intelligence obtaining terrorists emails and cooperating with allies in law enforcement against terrorists doesn't happen when it clearly does
Did I ever claim that didn't happen? Nope. Of course they obtain that information and work with other foreign governments about terrorists. No one has made any such contradictory claim as this pathetic strawman you've constructed.
The post you responded to and my point was that information like this is not gathered by NSA's mass surveillance on US citizens. As your own article points out, it was obtained by the FBI via Microsoft and Yahoo providing it.
Exactly. The Supreme Court already ruled you can be forced to contract with a private company for many different things. That cat is out of the bag. Expect more of this in the future.
More? Or did you miss that pretty much every state requires you to hold at least liability insurance to get a drivers' license? And that certainly isn't even the only case before ACA.
Telling somebody that has vastly more information and technology at their fingertips that they are morons for even attempting something like that is a little offensive, IMO. If you want to do that, then you must say that all of our great explorers in the past simply missed out on being awarded their Darwin Awards.
The people behind Mars One are morons not matter how offended you get. You are being taken in by hucksters who want money from running a reality TV show.
The Belgium plot, though not confirmed to be one of the 50 that relied on the recently revealed secretive NSA program to monitor online messages, appears to fit the bill.
So it's not even confirmed that it had anything to do with the programs in question. And then you dig later into the article:
e-mail information relating to the case was "provided voluntarily by the companies Microsoft and Yahoo, as authorized by the Patriot Act."
So basically it wasn't the NSA's surveillance programs that helped it was that Microsoft and Yahoo voluntarily provided the information to the FBI. So in conclusion, your article contradicts itself in stating it can't even verify that this case had anything to do with anything revealed from NSA spying on Americans and it even states that the information was gathered by companies who voluntarily gave it to the FBI.
Now please explain how your article is supposed to be justification for mass surveillance on US citizens by the NSA?
It's an advertisement otherwise referred to as "Slashvertisements". They have gotten much more brazen after the Dice.com purchase. "TabTimes" looks like nothing but a bunch of junk thrown together to get as many ad impressions as possible. It is mostly vacuous nonsense.
Them taking money from idiots in order to put on a reality show to make themselves more money while the whole "mission" never happens because there's no possible way they can pull this off.
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What does that have to do with Emacs and Git?
Exactly. His question is as dumb as asking "Why doesn't the FSF recommend Windows?".
Yes, and the first sentence of his post that you responded to tells you exactly why:
No need to move to a proprietary hosting service like Github.
It's an FSF article. Why would they recommend a proprietary service? Are you ignorant of who and what the FSF are?
GNU Savannah is a "cloud service". The difference to someone like Stallman is GNU Savannah is "free software" whilst Github is not.
Did you not even bother reading the person's first sentence?
No need to move to a proprietary hosting service like Github.
To add, Ravi Mandali's first version of his spam site was called "Hypno Security" which just basically regurgitated a couple of paragraphs of other people's news as "articles" and started spamming it here.
http://www.freelancer.com/u/hypnosec.html
Ravi Mandalia is "hypnosec".
"The article" (the first link which is to hypnosec's spam site) also says Github. ESR's post says merely Git.
What do either of those have to do with PRNGs?
Bash, Perl and Python exist for pretty much all OSes. Why not simply just install the OS port over installing a whole new OS?
You think the majority of users use network transparency? LOL. Most apps can't even support it if the user wanted it.
His claim about there being no abuses is a bald-faced lie. Why should anyone believe anything in that sentence after the first major lie?
LOVEINT wasn't an abuse? The FISA courts taking about how the NSA was deceiving them wasn't abuse? What the fuck is Hayden smoking to be making such outlandish claims?
How exactly am I forcing you to do anything? I have no power of government. Seriously, just because someone is not a mouth-frothing libertardian doesn't mean they support Obama. Maybe you should redirect your butthurt to an actual Obama supporter?
You seem to be confusing "social contract" with "social justice". Social contract is a 17th century Enlightenment concept. It has little to do with Obama or his supporters.
Just to add, I love how I've both been called an Obama lover when I don't froth at the mouth over every libertardian anti-Obama talking point or criticize Dubya and at the same time I've been called a Dubya lover for all the criticisms of Obama I've made.
Seems like today I've been labeled the former. I await to amusingly be called the latter again in the future.
I support Obama? That's news to me since I didn't vote for him in either election. And, no, I didn't vote for either of the Republican dunces who ran against him. I simply have no sympathy for libertardians.
In short, neither Microsoft nor Yahoo fought the issue and didn't require a court order.
Yeah, and? What relevance does that have to anything? ISPs has given law enforcement information on criminals before the Patriot Act or NSA's mass snooping on US citizens.
The information is consistent with what we've learned about the operations of the NSA involving those companies.
Except your article specifically makes no mention of any NSA involvement. It clearly states only the FBI and the two companies.
Even given NSA's involvement they clearly have wanted to stay out of the spotlight and would likely have handed the information to the FBI which has liaisons with overseas law enforcement agencies.
They were involved? You have proof of this? The article makes no such mention. To quote:
The documents stated that as early as December 2007, the FBI handed Belgian authorities a disc with information relating to these e-mail addresses that had been provided to the FBI by Microsoft and Yahoo.
And claiming the NSA was trying to stay out of the spotlight? Bullshit. You're now simply making shit up now after being proven wrong by your own supposed evidence.
At the end you are still stuck trying to explain how US intelligence obtaining terrorists emails and cooperating with allies in law enforcement against terrorists doesn't happen when it clearly does
Did I ever claim that didn't happen? Nope. Of course they obtain that information and work with other foreign governments about terrorists. No one has made any such contradictory claim as this pathetic strawman you've constructed.
The post you responded to and my point was that information like this is not gathered by NSA's mass surveillance on US citizens. As your own article points out, it was obtained by the FBI via Microsoft and Yahoo providing it.
You can choose not to have a driver's license.
And you can choose not to live here. Sorry if I'm not going to shed tears for you.
Illegal? No. You are simply taxed more if you don't. The only time you reach "illegality" is if you fail to pay your taxes.
Exactly. The Supreme Court already ruled you can be forced to contract with a private company for many different things. That cat is out of the bag.
Expect more of this in the future.
More? Or did you miss that pretty much every state requires you to hold at least liability insurance to get a drivers' license? And that certainly isn't even the only case before ACA.
Telling somebody that has vastly more information and technology at their fingertips that they are morons for even attempting something like that is a little offensive, IMO. If you want to do that, then you must say that all of our great explorers in the past simply missed out on being awarded their Darwin Awards.
The people behind Mars One are morons not matter how offended you get. You are being taken in by hucksters who want money from running a reality TV show.
Nice try cold fjord:
The Belgium plot, though not confirmed to be one of the 50 that relied on the recently revealed secretive NSA program to monitor online messages, appears to fit the bill.
So it's not even confirmed that it had anything to do with the programs in question. And then you dig later into the article:
e-mail information relating to the case was "provided voluntarily by the companies Microsoft and Yahoo, as authorized by the Patriot Act."
So basically it wasn't the NSA's surveillance programs that helped it was that Microsoft and Yahoo voluntarily provided the information to the FBI. So in conclusion, your article contradicts itself in stating it can't even verify that this case had anything to do with anything revealed from NSA spying on Americans and it even states that the information was gathered by companies who voluntarily gave it to the FBI.
Now please explain how your article is supposed to be justification for mass surveillance on US citizens by the NSA?
It's an advertisement otherwise referred to as "Slashvertisements". They have gotten much more brazen after the Dice.com purchase. "TabTimes" looks like nothing but a bunch of junk thrown together to get as many ad impressions as possible. It is mostly vacuous nonsense.
What exactly is the scam?
Them taking money from idiots in order to put on a reality show to make themselves more money while the whole "mission" never happens because there's no possible way they can pull this off.