If I'm forced to buy a new device because a manufacturer can't/won't keep the OS up to date what makes you think I won't purchase from a better manufacturer next time.
Because all of the major Android manufacturers are pretty much the same in this respect?
You don't cultivate brand loyalty by screwing over your customers. At least not in the Android world where there's competition.
So outside of a few niche brands, which of the major Android manufacturers don't have the same issues of abandoning phone updates?
I'm the IT guy who blocks iPads from updating when school is in session because we are in a rural location. 3mbps is the best WAN we can buy. Devices can update after hours just fine.
The person you responded to was correct in saying that his post said they were allowed to update devices after hours. The part about his own devices at home was a completely separate part of the post.
Q12: Won't the attack be foiled by loud fan noise, or by multitasking, or by several computers in the same room?
Usually not. The interesting acoustic signals are mostly above 10KHz, whereas typical computer fan noise and normal room noise are concentrated at lower frequencies and can thus be filtered out. In task-switching systems, different tasks can be distinguished by their different acoustic spectral signatures. Using multiple cores turns out to help the attack (by shifting down the signal frequencies). When several computers are present, they can be told apart by spatial localization, or by their different acoustic signatures (which vary with the hardware, the component temperatures, and other environmental conditions).
Did you miss the part about the secondary attack vector?
We demonstrated another low-bandwidth channel: the electric potential of the laptop's chassis. In many computers this "ground" potential fluctuates (even when connected to a grounded power supply) and leaks the requisite signal. This can be measured in several ways, for example:
You seem to have missed the point. You claimed thay bank bailouts were only done by lefties. Yet Reagan did a $160 billion bailout after the savings and loan collpase and Bush (with lots of non-lefty support) with TARP. Oh and shoulf we also ignore all the deficit spending by Reagan who within his own administration turned us into the biggest debtor and increased the debt as a percentage of GDP from 26.2 to 40.9%.
He may have claimed to be against what you say but his spending actions speak otherwise.
Yeah, keep attacking those "lefties" while the public continues to be robbed by the bankers and other corrupt businesses. People like you are what is wrong with this country by worrying more about the boogeymen "lefties" over the people who are really ruining this country.
If he was born later he would simply have been mostly ignored by the time he was around 30. To the current crop of hipsters running tech companies that is over the hill and then some.
Yes, someone else claimed this in another post yet Big Pharma have dozens of vitamins and other supplement brands. Which would run completely contrary to the claim that they are against these things. This would be like claiming that General Motors is against EVs.
First, in 1996 a large swath of works were "retroactively copyrighted by Congress" in the United States.
Yes, hence the second part of my post...
Second, one company that makes derivatives likes to sue other companies that make derivatives.
Of their works. There are non-Disney movies derivative of the same public domain stories. They are trivially easy to find.
Third, one company that makes derivatives often applies for trademarks for dolls and the like based on names of characters in the original public domain (according to copyright) story, so that no other company can make and sell merchandise based on the original public domain (according to copyright) story.
Yes, they apply for marks that cover a specific product. That does not stop anyone from making or selling other merchandise. For example, Disney does own marks related to Cinderella. But there are other animated films and live-action films that also use the Cinderella name in both the title and for characters. You're highly exaggerating.
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No, it is not "sure". Secret recipes are considered trade secrets and you can be sued for publicly disclosing them. And, yes, "trade secrets" are IP.
No. Baking recipes are not protected by the law.
Go steal KFC's secret recipes and see how much they aren't protected by law.
Sure they do: trade secrets.
When you exclude trademark, the number who care about "IP" becomes Hollywood, and not much else.
The technology sector is run by Hollywood?
You're right. That's totally comparable to this case. If you're a mental defective.
Typical MBA-speak.
Duh? That was sort of my entire point...
If I'm forced to buy a new device because a manufacturer can't/won't keep the OS up to date what makes you think I won't purchase from a better manufacturer next time.
Because all of the major Android manufacturers are pretty much the same in this respect?
You don't cultivate brand loyalty by screwing over your customers. At least not in the Android world where there's competition.
So outside of a few niche brands, which of the major Android manufacturers don't have the same issues of abandoning phone updates?
I can see manufacturers paying Cyanogen to support their devices and keep them up to date.
That's a good joke. Keeping a phone up to date means being unable to upsell the newest model with the newest OS.
No, you're actually confusing what they said.
I'm the IT guy who blocks iPads from updating when school is in session because we are in a rural location. 3mbps is the best WAN we can buy. Devices can update after hours just fine.
The person you responded to was correct in saying that his post said they were allowed to update devices after hours. The part about his own devices at home was a completely separate part of the post.
They address both multitasking and multiple cores. They say multiple cores makes the attack easier.
Q12: Won't the attack be foiled by loud fan noise, or by multitasking, or by several computers in the same room?
Usually not. The interesting acoustic signals are mostly above 10KHz, whereas typical computer fan noise and normal room noise are concentrated at lower frequencies and can thus be filtered out. In task-switching systems, different tasks can be distinguished by their different acoustic spectral signatures. Using multiple cores turns out to help the attack (by shifting down the signal frequencies). When several computers are present, they can be told apart by spatial localization, or by their different acoustic signatures (which vary with the hardware, the component temperatures, and other environmental conditions).
How is it "obviously nonsense"? Pardon the appeal to authority but do you know who, for example, who Adi Shamir is? He isn't some random quack.
You could have spent 5 minutes to skim the page where they address your questions.
They address that. It ms a very short "article" so you really should read.
In before "you must be new here".
Did you miss the part about the secondary attack vector?
We demonstrated another low-bandwidth channel: the electric potential of the laptop's chassis. In many computers this "ground" potential fluctuates (even when connected to a grounded power supply) and leaks the requisite signal. This can be measured in several ways, for example:
In almost all machines, it is possible to distinguish an idle CPU (x86 "HLT") from a busy CPU.
Since they can detect when its idle how would your idea work? Making it "random" doesn't make it undetectable.
You seem to have missed the point. You claimed thay bank bailouts were only done by lefties. Yet Reagan did a $160 billion bailout after the savings and loan collpase and Bush (with lots of non-lefty support) with TARP. Oh and shoulf we also ignore all the deficit spending by Reagan who within his own administration turned us into the biggest debtor and increased the debt as a percentage of GDP from 26.2 to 40.9%.
He may have claimed to be against what you say but his spending actions speak otherwise.
No the subject at hand is your ignoramus "us vs them" stupidity.
Bush and Ronald Reagan were/are a lefties?
Where did I point to a single side? I mentioned neither political side because such a game only serves as a distraction.
Yeah, keep attacking those "lefties" while the public continues to be robbed by the bankers and other corrupt businesses. People like you are what is wrong with this country by worrying more about the boogeymen "lefties" over the people who are really ruining this country.
It was the submitter's own commentary. Reread the submission and you will notice it came right after the end of a quote.
If he was born later he would simply have been mostly ignored by the time he was around 30. To the current crop of hipsters running tech companies that is over the hill and then some.
Yeah but Snapchat and Pinterest are hip, young and agile. Doug old and stuff.
At least that's what goes through the mind of the current tech industry.
Yes, someone else claimed this in another post yet Big Pharma have dozens of vitamins and other supplement brands. Which would run completely contrary to the claim that they are against these things. This would be like claiming that General Motors is against EVs.
First, in 1996 a large swath of works were "retroactively copyrighted by Congress" in the United States.
Yes, hence the second part of my post...
Second, one company that makes derivatives likes to sue other companies that make derivatives.
Of their works. There are non-Disney movies derivative of the same public domain stories. They are trivially easy to find.
Third, one company that makes derivatives often applies for trademarks for dolls and the like based on names of characters in the original public domain (according to copyright) story, so that no other company can make and sell merchandise based on the original public domain (according to copyright) story.
Yes, they apply for marks that cover a specific product. That does not stop anyone from making or selling other merchandise. For example, Disney does own marks related to Cinderella. But there are other animated films and live-action films that also use the Cinderella name in both the title and for characters. You're highly exaggerating.