Have you tried the school-l and schoolweb-l mailing lists? These are specifically for discussing general education matters and
internet matters respectively in relation to K-12/Highschool education. Mail me for details: for security the list details are not on the
regular Web interface for LISTSERV lists.
FOR SECURITY? Why would those people feel they need special security? Do they have enemies? They should ask themselves why.
I don't think you're going to be successful limiting each of 600 users to 128 Mbps with a single Linux box. You might be able to handle three. Sorry. You need to be talking to a fancy high-end hardware vendor, I'm afraid. Pay particular attention to finding one who can help you set reasonable requirements.
as a DSL ISP. All I really want from an ISP is an IP address, routing, and upstream bandwidth. I don't give a rat's ass about email servers or nntp servers, and the whiners who do nothing but piss and moan every time Outlook doesn't work exactly the way they think it should.
One of these days, I should put together a "bot" from which I'd grab a bunch of postings by these sorts of folk, build a sort of "parse
tree," and then run a random number generator through it to generate pseudo-postings by them...
Let me guess, you're going to name it Mark Shaney?
Didn't you recognize the guestbook entry by the esteemed ex MIT professor, Dr. Lirpa? Dr. Lirpa has made a great number of breakthroughs, including in the field of hydrodynamics,
audiodynamics,political theology, and aerodynamics, among others. Dr. Lirpa is not a force to be trifled with.
No, and that's the real bitch. I'm 34! I just can't believe I'm this old already, I thought sure I had a couple of more years before I had to buy supplemental Medicaid!
follow these easy steps:
(1) go to Radio Shack and buy one of those voice disguise toys
(2) find a pay phone in the shopping mall
(3) at 9:00 PM, call your High School's answering machine and leave an anonymous paniced message stating that you saw a boy with a whole bunch of guns 'n stuff telling his friends how he was gonna blow up his WHOLE SCHOOL!
(4) Name yourself as the boy in question.
(5) get suspended the next morning
(6) sue your school for damages
Mess with the internet on
the other hand and you're a force to be reckoned with.
You only become a credible threat when people believe you can hurt them again and again and again, whenever you want to. That's what it takes to be "a force to be reckoned with."
Even assuming that you aren't arrested shortly after taking down the root servers, you have to be able to convince everyone that you can and will cause similar havoc again and again.
But all of these holes are one-offs. Every time you abuse one, it will be fixed. You would have to convince us that you can invent new exploits faster than we can fix them.
Another poster commented that chemistry should be restricted, and perhaps it should be in the
sense that large fertilizer sales should be tracked (eg., by inserting chemical "tags" into the
fertilizer).
Already done. Happy yet?
'sfunny, nobody has commented yet that this pretext allows The Man to simultaneously target not only crypto users (the obvious target) but also pr0n sites.
Wanna bet Ashcroft put 'em up to this?
Ebola kills so many people in Africa because their health-care practices are so miserable that the hospitals become loci of disease.
Canada would scarcely be touched, because when you call your doctor for a visit they'll tell you to wait a week and see how you feel, and you'll just die at home without having had a chance to spread the infection.
Getting loose in NY is probably not a big deal either, as there is a standard protocol for dealing with this and other hemorrhagic fevers, and that is: isolation units and strict bodily fluids precuations. Treatment consists of symptom management until the infection runs its course, and is probably far more survivable with intensive Western medicine than has been the case in African hospitals.
So now, every web site will add a boiler-plate disclaimer and an "Enter" button. Ok, you've been informed, you consented, now we'll get down to tracking.
Or alternatively, they will move to a different regulatory jurisidiction, say, Anguilla.
Unless the people care about their own privacy and take steps to protect it, there is little the state can do that will matter. The most important thing the people need to do is stop divulging personal information for any purpose.
Oh, wait. I'd need to know where the nearest access point was to do that. D'ohh.
No, you download the database beforehand, and store it on your wireless device. Or you keep at least a subset of the database on your device.
A human clone... would presumably be soulless.... It is reasonable to assume that a cloned human would be the theological equivalent of a cat...
It would? It Is??? You seem so certain. And *so* fucked up:
So what would they say? What would they do? Would they be capable of moral or ethical behavior, or would they operate on pure instinct as the animal kingdom does?
Where did you get your theological philosophy? Frankenstein? Do you think that without a soul, you would be reduced to grunting and pointing? That you would go on a mad spree of rape and pillage?
I don't even know where to start with this argument. On the one hand, it looks like the most sophisticated troll I have ever seen, but it's just too well-punctuated to be a troll. Here are some random objections to your apparent position on ensoulment:
1. Why do you presume that a divine being would withold a soul from a human being created in a non-traditional fashion? If that were the case, then there must already be hundreds or thousands of people running around who were made in test-tubes. Why don't you study them to see how they act, or whether they operate on pure instinct? It appears that you presume that ensoulment happens when a sperm and an egg are united. (I refer you to the esteemed British philosopher M. Python for a further treatise on this theory.) While this is self-consistent, you must consider that huge proportions of such unions do not result in a live birth. What happens to the souls?
2. Why do you tar cloned humans with the epithet "man-made", but not humans who are created via the traditional means? The process is almost entirely identical over the long run, the only difference is the way the zygote is created. Surely, all humans are man-made! And yet God deigns to provide souls anyway.
3. Is your concept of God so small that you believe he would withold souls from these humans?
Just because they weren't made by using a penis...
4. Why do you believe that animals operate "on pure instinct?" Was this something you were taught in church? All research on higher vertebrates suggests that their reasoning processes are actually quite complex. Whether you would define it as "moral or ethical behavior" depends on whether you define flipping off and screaming at someone who cuts you off on the highway as "moral or ethical behavior" instead of "pure instinct".
5. Why do you believe that animals do not also have souls? Just becuase you dissected a cat in high school biology lab and didn't find one there?
6. Theological experiment? How do you propose to construct an experiment with no measurements that can be objectively verified, or no hypothesis which can be falsified? There's no experiment possible here, unless you can find a way to reliably demonstrate the presence or absence of a soul -- which would really shake western theology up but good.
-- end rant ---
cje, please, please, please. For your own good, and for the good of the rest of humanity, try to take some philosophy and/or theology classes there at university.
I will gladly sponsor computers and net access for ten low-income children whose families do not subscribe to cable TV or smoke a pack a day of cigarettes.
If their families can afford those latter two vices, then they can certainly afford a computer.
Leaving aside the issue of whether it even matters.
A better example would be AM/FM radios. We've been told that years that radios shouldn't be used on airplanes,
because they can cause problems with navigation equipment. I find it hard to believe that a passive receiver can
cause more problems than an active 802.11b transmitter.
You AM/FM radio is not a passive receiver. It uses a superheterodyne amplifier, which emits RF.
Slashdot Mirror
Have you tried the school-l and schoolweb-l mailing lists? These are specifically for discussing general education matters and internet matters respectively in relation to K-12/Highschool education. Mail me for details: for security the list details are not on the regular Web interface for LISTSERV lists.
FOR SECURITY? Why would those people feel they need special security? Do they have enemies? They should ask themselves why.
I don't think you're going to be successful limiting each of 600 users to 128 Mbps with a single Linux box. You might be able to handle three. Sorry. You need to be talking to a fancy high-end hardware vendor, I'm afraid. Pay particular attention to finding one who can help you set reasonable requirements.
I mean, it won't have that warm, natural sound if that's a solid-state laser.
(getting the chills just thinking about a tube-driven laser...)
Where you can't be arrested for content on your web site, as long as Sony says it's ok.
as a DSL ISP. All I really want from an ISP is an IP address, routing, and upstream bandwidth. I don't give a rat's ass about email servers or nntp servers, and the whiners who do nothing but piss and moan every time Outlook doesn't work exactly the way they think it should.
One of these days, I should put together a "bot" from which I'd grab a bunch of postings by these sorts of folk, build a sort of "parse tree," and then run a random number generator through it to generate pseudo-postings by them...
Let me guess, you're going to name it Mark Shaney?
Didn't you recognize the guestbook entry by the esteemed ex MIT professor, Dr. Lirpa? Dr. Lirpa has made a great number of breakthroughs, including in the field of hydrodynamics, audiodynamics, political theology, and aerodynamics, among others. Dr. Lirpa is not a force to be trifled with.
No, and that's the real bitch. I'm 34! I just can't believe I'm this old already, I thought sure I had a couple of more years before I had to buy supplemental Medicaid!
follow these easy steps:
(1) go to Radio Shack and buy one of those voice disguise toys
(2) find a pay phone in the shopping mall
(3) at 9:00 PM, call your High School's answering machine and leave an anonymous paniced message stating that you saw a boy with a whole bunch of guns 'n stuff telling his friends how he was gonna blow up his WHOLE SCHOOL!
(4) Name yourself as the boy in question.
(5) get suspended the next morning
(6) sue your school for damages
happy days!
The peach-fuzz wet-behind-the-ears slashdot children start moaning about how old they are.
ghods, let me just find my coffin.
Mess with the internet on the other hand and you're a force to be reckoned with.
You only become a credible threat when people believe you can hurt them again and again and again, whenever you want to. That's what it takes to be "a force to be reckoned with."
Even assuming that you aren't arrested shortly after taking down the root servers, you have to be able to convince everyone that you can and will cause similar havoc again and again.
But all of these holes are one-offs. Every time you abuse one, it will be fixed. You would have to convince us that you can invent new exploits faster than we can fix them.
...i'm using "you" figuratively here.
Another poster commented that chemistry should be restricted, and perhaps it should be in the sense that large fertilizer sales should be tracked (eg., by inserting chemical "tags" into the fertilizer).
Already done. Happy yet?
'sfunny, nobody has commented yet that this pretext allows The Man to simultaneously target not only crypto users (the obvious target) but also pr0n sites.
Wanna bet Ashcroft put 'em up to this?
Can you at least give us his name? The county and state?
Ebola kills so many people in Africa because their health-care practices are so miserable that the hospitals become loci of disease.
Canada would scarcely be touched, because when you call your doctor for a visit they'll tell you to wait a week and see how you feel, and you'll just die at home without having had a chance to spread the infection.
Getting loose in NY is probably not a big deal either, as there is a standard protocol for dealing with this and other hemorrhagic fevers, and that is: isolation units and strict bodily fluids precuations. Treatment consists of symptom management until the infection runs its course, and is probably far more survivable with intensive Western medicine than has been the case in African hospitals.
with implementations available for linux, bsd, and win2k, is the answer. More information can be found with a google search.
So now, every web site will add a boiler-plate disclaimer and an "Enter" button. Ok, you've been informed, you consented, now we'll get down to tracking.
Or alternatively, they will move to a different regulatory jurisidiction, say, Anguilla.
Unless the people care about their own privacy and take steps to protect it, there is little the state can do that will matter. The most important thing the people need to do is stop divulging personal information for any purpose.
Oh, wait. I'd need to know where the nearest access point was to do that. D'ohh.
No, you download the database beforehand, and store it on your wireless device. Or you keep at least a subset of the database on your device.
Internet usage actually declined in December, for the first time ever.
This according to a story in yesterday's New York Times.
A human clone ... would presumably be soulless....
It is reasonable to assume that a cloned human would be the theological equivalent of a cat...
It would? It Is??? You seem so certain. And *so* fucked up:
So what would they say? What would they do? Would they be capable of moral or ethical behavior, or would they operate on pure instinct as the animal kingdom does?
Where did you get your theological philosophy? Frankenstein? Do you think that without a soul, you would be reduced to grunting and pointing? That you would go on a mad spree of rape and pillage?
I don't even know where to start with this argument. On the one hand, it looks like the most sophisticated troll I have ever seen, but it's just too well-punctuated to be a troll. Here are some random objections to your apparent position on ensoulment:
1. Why do you presume that a divine being would withold a soul from a human being created in a non-traditional fashion? If that were the case, then there must already be hundreds or thousands of people running around who were made in test-tubes. Why don't you study them to see how they act, or whether they operate on pure instinct? It appears that you presume that ensoulment happens when a sperm and an egg are united. (I refer you to the esteemed British philosopher M. Python for a further treatise on this theory.) While this is self-consistent, you must consider that huge proportions of such unions do not result in a live birth. What happens to the souls?
2. Why do you tar cloned humans with the epithet "man-made", but not humans who are created via the traditional means? The process is almost entirely identical over the long run, the only difference is the way the zygote is created. Surely, all humans are man-made! And yet God deigns to provide souls anyway.
3. Is your concept of God so small that you believe he would withold souls from these humans? Just because they weren't made by using a penis...
4. Why do you believe that animals operate "on pure instinct?" Was this something you were taught in church? All research on higher vertebrates suggests that their reasoning processes are actually quite complex. Whether you would define it as "moral or ethical behavior" depends on whether you define flipping off and screaming at someone who cuts you off on the highway as "moral or ethical behavior" instead of "pure instinct".
5. Why do you believe that animals do not also have souls? Just becuase you dissected a cat in high school biology lab and didn't find one there?
6. Theological experiment? How do you propose to construct an experiment with no measurements that can be objectively verified, or no hypothesis which can be falsified? There's no experiment possible here, unless you can find a way to reliably demonstrate the presence or absence of a soul -- which would really shake western theology up but good.
-- end rant ---
cje, please, please, please. For your own good, and for the good of the rest of humanity, try to take some philosophy and/or theology classes there at university.
Almost. It's the supply that's constant, demand is rising approximately 2% / yr.
use a search engine
I will gladly sponsor computers and net access for ten low-income children whose families do not subscribe to cable TV or smoke a pack a day of cigarettes.
If their families can afford those latter two vices, then they can certainly afford a computer.
Leaving aside the issue of whether it even matters.
And another link at the same site tells us that Beer 'may be good for you'.
So there you have it.
Beer: good
Water: bad