I didn't notice that in the video, I did see it in the article, but the article was so full of "hey, what if, guys?" conjecture on the part of the writers, I am not really ready to buy into anything it says yet.
I don't know where all of them are... they are all over wikipedia. Not that I would correct them - I am one of the small subset who thinks it's very funny when I see one!
It's not just pure vandalism, though. I know of someone who has inserted his name into dozens of articles, in hard to notice ways. For example, on a page about a relatively obscure scientific discovery he might insert himself as a scientist whose work help lead to the discovery. Or on a blues musicians page, he'll insert his name as a guitarist whose style influenced the musician. Most of these have not been discovered.
Funny if you know him and you stumble across it.
Not a big deal if he is the only person doing it.
But if 100, or 1000, or 10000 people start doing things like that, suddenly wikipedia is full of useless misinformation.
I agree with much of this, but in the context of the great-great-grandparent's statements about the kind of games that spur console sales (and indeed in general), I feel it's somewhat ridiculous to dismiss games like GTA which are the top-selling games for their system... and I still don't think GTA is a hardcore gamer game... it's very simple to pick up and play, simpler than the Sims, for sure.
The difference there was that netscape cost $30, IE was free. And your computer already had IE. AND Microsoft added code to make Netscape not work right.
Sweet, I had also read elsewhere it was 360-only. If it's not, then that tips my wallet a bit more away from the 360, then. I just know I want to get RE5, whatever the system it's on... 4 was great.
According to that same list you linked, the top three selling PS2 games are:
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (PS2 - 8.5 Million) Gran Turismo 3 (PS2 - 7 Million)
And on Xbox:
Halo 2 (Xbox - 6.3 Million)
Sales that high are pretty mainstream, I'm sorry. If a CD sold that many copies (even in the years before file-sharing), it would be considered a MASSIVE, genre-bridging success. There would be no way it could be considered obscure or hardcore. And CDs cost less than games.
I'm not saying your wrong that they are "hardcore" games in that they appeal to "gamers" and not "moms & dads", I just think that obviously there must be more people now who are into games enough to be considered more than just staid ol' moms and dads who can't handle anything more complex than pong or solitaire...
The moms and dads who have young kids now, after all, probably grew up playing NES and Genesis games, so they are probably able to handle more than just minesweeper or the Sims. Perhaps the definition of what games only appeal to "hardcore" gamers simply needs to be adjusted, based on the growing acceptance of videogames into the culture.
RE4 came out in what, November/December? It's still only on the Gamecube, to my knowledge.
Well, I mean I guess you could also say that the GTA games aren't REALLY Sony exclusives, you just have to wait A YEAR to play them on the Xbox or PC... personally, I'd rather get them when I want to play them then have to wait a year, I don't know about you.
Wasn't RE5 announced for the PS3 at the same time it was announced for the 360?
Is RE5 going to be on the PS3? If so, I may buy it for that system instead, if the PS3 is out by the time RE5 is.
Decent troll. Actually, I don't even own an Xbox, I have a PS2 and a GC.
However, the 360 does look appealling to me (and many other gamers) this time around, partially because it looks like MS is in it for the long haul, partially because the whole XBL experience comes so highly recommended by my friends, and partially (in my case) because Resident Evil 5 is apparently going to be an Xbox exclusive. RE4 for the GC was by far the most fun game I played last year, so I would be willing to buy a 360 if the new one looks as good.
Basically what I'm saying is, there are people like me who will buy any console if it has games we want to play. Personally, I skipped the Xbox last time around because I assumed it was going to tank. It didn't, so I'm more inclined to pick one up this time around... IF it has good games.
Also, what the dreamcast has to do with the xbox, AND why anyone who bought a Dreamcast is a loser escapes me - there were lots of great games for that system.
Xbox could easily claim a large amount of the US marketshare in the next generation. Worldwide, I can't say, but in however many years, MS has managed to take the Xbox from a joke to something that the US gaming market is actually very interested in. The success of Halo/Halo 2 is a good example of that.
I love how you bring up games like Halo, GTA, WoW, GT4 as being mainstream games. THOSE ARE ALL HARDCORE GAMER GAMES!
I can't agree with you there... the GTA games & Halo are the best selling games on their consoles... Everyone I know with a PS2 has at least one GTA game, for example. I don't see how they can really be considered non-mainstream if they are the best-sellers.
The parent poster is referring to the fact that sony 's games division has posted a loss in the last quarter or perhaps quarters (as has MS' games division).
Every news article I've read says that the Xbox lags significantly in the Asian market, while Cube lags in the US (but not by as big a margin as the Xbox does in Japan).
I have noted GC games are regularly in the Japanese top 10 sales lists, and I don't recall ever seeing a n Xbox title there.
Even this year's move "Batman Returns" refers to Arkham Sanitarium, a setting of many Lovecraft stories.
It's "Batman Begins", Batman Returns came out in the early 90s... and it's "Arkham Asylum" in the Batman comics AND movies... It is a place that has figured in the comics for decades.
It's hard to see how Nintendo can possibly survive as a console maker unless their next platform is pretty fucking spectacular and they loosen up what they're prepared to allow their box to run.
Yeah, because Resident Evil 4 was so kid-friendly!
Nintendo does have more "edgy" fare, it just almost always comes from 3rd-party vendors.
I bought a GC just to play Wind Waker. So did several people I know. Twilight Princess will sell well, as Zelda is a series that makes people buy consoles just to be able to play it.
Honestly, a console's success has more to do with which games they can get to be exclusive than how good it's graphics are. GTA did A LOT for the PS2 (I bought my PS2 so I could play GTA III), and it's graphics are terrible.
When I rent a truck/trailer from U-haul I have to sign a contract stating how I can use the truck/trailer and an agreed upon price.
No you don't.
What are you talking about? I rented a trailer from U-Haul last weekend, and I MOST DEFINITELY had to sign a contract. This contract laid out the cost, and stipulated late fees and so forth if I returned it late, also it laid out rules for proper use that I agreed to follow.
It seems quite clear to me that they aren't selling these things to consumers, which I've already explained in my previous post.
They are selling these to consumers. I bought one. I signed no contract, and there was no License Agreement on the blister pack.
These things are being sold in exactly the same way as disposable cameras are. It's NOT a rental. Again - I signed nothing, and there is no ULA anywhere on the package (at least not that I noted).
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I didn't notice that in the video, I did see it in the article, but the article was so full of "hey, what if, guys?" conjecture on the part of the writers, I am not really ready to buy into anything it says yet.
Note that that power button might be to turn the CONTROLLER off... the Wavebird has an on/off switch also.
I don't know where all of them are... they are all over wikipedia. Not that I would correct them - I am one of the small subset who thinks it's very funny when I see one!
It's not just pure vandalism, though. I know of someone who has inserted his name into dozens of articles, in hard to notice ways. For example, on a page about a relatively obscure scientific discovery he might insert himself as a scientist whose work help lead to the discovery. Or on a blues musicians page, he'll insert his name as a guitarist whose style influenced the musician. Most of these have not been discovered.
Funny if you know him and you stumble across it.
Not a big deal if he is the only person doing it.
But if 100, or 1000, or 10000 people start doing things like that, suddenly wikipedia is full of useless misinformation.
I agree with much of this, but in the context of the great-great-grandparent's statements about the kind of games that spur console sales (and indeed in general), I feel it's somewhat ridiculous to dismiss games like GTA which are the top-selling games for their system... and I still don't think GTA is a hardcore gamer game... it's very simple to pick up and play, simpler than the Sims, for sure.
and Netscape being another.
The difference there was that netscape cost $30, IE was free. And your computer already had IE. AND Microsoft added code to make Netscape not work right.
Sony launched Final Fantasy IX(I believe) the same day as the DC to poke fun at their sales of their new console
and yet, the DC release (in the US, anyway) was (to that date) the biggest retail sales day for entertainment ever... since eclipse, of course.
People forget that the DC debuted very well in the US, and yet still failed ultimately.
Sweet, I had also read elsewhere it was 360-only. If it's not, then that tips my wallet a bit more away from the 360, then. I just know I want to get RE5, whatever the system it's on... 4 was great.
According to that same list you linked, the top three selling PS2 games are:
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (PS2 - 8.5 Million)
Gran Turismo 3 (PS2 - 7 Million)
And on Xbox:
Halo 2 (Xbox - 6.3 Million)
Sales that high are pretty mainstream, I'm sorry. If a CD sold that many copies (even in the years before file-sharing), it would be considered a MASSIVE, genre-bridging success. There would be no way it could be considered obscure or hardcore. And CDs cost less than games.
I'm not saying your wrong that they are "hardcore" games in that they appeal to "gamers" and not "moms & dads", I just think that obviously there must be more people now who are into games enough to be considered more than just staid ol' moms and dads who can't handle anything more complex than pong or solitaire...
The moms and dads who have young kids now, after all, probably grew up playing NES and Genesis games, so they are probably able to handle more than just minesweeper or the Sims. Perhaps the definition of what games only appeal to "hardcore" gamers simply needs to be adjusted, based on the growing acceptance of videogames into the culture.
And RE4 is going to be a GameCube exclusive.
RE4 came out in what, November/December? It's still only on the Gamecube, to my knowledge.
Well, I mean I guess you could also say that the GTA games aren't REALLY Sony exclusives, you just have to wait A YEAR to play them on the Xbox or PC... personally, I'd rather get them when I want to play them then have to wait a year, I don't know about you.
Wasn't RE5 announced for the PS3 at the same time it was announced for the 360?
Is RE5 going to be on the PS3? If so, I may buy it for that system instead, if the PS3 is out by the time RE5 is.
Decent troll. Actually, I don't even own an Xbox, I have a PS2 and a GC.
However, the 360 does look appealling to me (and many other gamers) this time around, partially because it looks like MS is in it for the long haul, partially because the whole XBL experience comes so highly recommended by my friends, and partially (in my case) because Resident Evil 5 is apparently going to be an Xbox exclusive. RE4 for the GC was by far the most fun game I played last year, so I would be willing to buy a 360 if the new one looks as good.
Basically what I'm saying is, there are people like me who will buy any console if it has games we want to play. Personally, I skipped the Xbox last time around because I assumed it was going to tank. It didn't, so I'm more inclined to pick one up this time around... IF it has good games.
Also, what the dreamcast has to do with the xbox, AND why anyone who bought a Dreamcast is a loser escapes me - there were lots of great games for that system.
Xbox could easily claim a large amount of the US marketshare in the next generation. Worldwide, I can't say, but in however many years, MS has managed to take the Xbox from a joke to something that the US gaming market is actually very interested in. The success of Halo/Halo 2 is a good example of that.
I love how you bring up games like Halo, GTA, WoW, GT4 as being mainstream games. THOSE ARE ALL HARDCORE GAMER GAMES!
I can't agree with you there... the GTA games & Halo are the best selling games on their consoles... Everyone I know with a PS2 has at least one GTA game, for example. I don't see how they can really be considered non-mainstream if they are the best-sellers.
And I stand by my point that the mainstream does not care about playing classic games.
Atari sold 500,000+ of their "Atari Flashback" (a $30 box that has like 10 atari games) devices in 6 months... some people must like classic gaming.
The parent poster is referring to the fact that sony 's games division has posted a loss in the last quarter or perhaps quarters (as has MS' games division).
Could you provide numbers for this?
Every news article I've read says that the Xbox lags significantly in the Asian market, while Cube lags in the US (but not by as big a margin as the Xbox does in Japan).
I have noted GC games are regularly in the Japanese top 10 sales lists, and I don't recall ever seeing a n Xbox title there.
"This new comic is the second that online game company Skotos has released in a recent months, part of a new trend of turning games into stories."
Even this year's move "Batman Returns" refers to Arkham Sanitarium, a setting of many Lovecraft stories.
It's "Batman Begins", Batman Returns came out in the early 90s... and it's "Arkham Asylum" in the Batman comics AND movies... It is a place that has figured in the comics for decades.
It's hard to see how Nintendo can possibly survive as a console maker unless their next platform is pretty fucking spectacular and they loosen up what they're prepared to allow their box to run.
Yeah, because Resident Evil 4 was so kid-friendly!
Nintendo does have more "edgy" fare, it just almost always comes from 3rd-party vendors.
I bought a GC just to play Wind Waker. So did several people I know. Twilight Princess will sell well, as Zelda is a series that makes people buy consoles just to be able to play it.
Honestly, a console's success has more to do with which games they can get to be exclusive than how good it's graphics are. GTA did A LOT for the PS2 (I bought my PS2 so I could play GTA III), and it's graphics are terrible.
When I rent a truck/trailer from U-haul I have to sign a contract stating how I can use the truck/trailer and an agreed upon price.
No you don't.
What are you talking about? I rented a trailer from U-Haul last weekend, and I MOST DEFINITELY had to sign a contract. This contract laid out the cost, and stipulated late fees and so forth if I returned it late, also it laid out rules for proper use that I agreed to follow.
It seems quite clear to me that they aren't selling these things to consumers, which I've already explained in my previous post.
They are selling these to consumers. I bought one. I signed no contract, and there was no License Agreement on the blister pack.
These things are being sold in exactly the same way as disposable cameras are. It's NOT a rental. Again - I signed nothing, and there is no ULA anywhere on the package (at least not that I noted).
This is also a tip-off:
"Have you seen any of the newer systems (Playstation, Jaguar, Nintendo 64)?"
I had always heard it's only actually legal to own a ROM of YOUR PARTICULAR CART, not just a ROM of someone else's cart that you happen to also own.
Not sure if that is true or not...