Heavy al right . Computers were always heavy until the mouse came along . But this making a lot of sense . Especially from an Indian view point where about.1% have Internet access . We can 'see' both the world he is talking about . What is primitive to the west as well as the 'modern', and I suppose technocratic.
"They saw a medium where a dolt like me could post commentary that thousands of people can read, as opposed to TV/Radio/Newpapers where I'd never be given the opportunity to speak."
I think this free speech is one the beauties of the Net . We are not restricted by the intellect of the 'Editors' who throw out what they don't understand.
I wanted to use IE 5 but can't because of space . I read somewhere pages using HTML 4.0 are ignored by search engines ? True / false ? And I cant get publish to work on netscape.
To that I would like to add. Is that all ? The US holds a special place in the psyche of every citizen of this earth . And it is very sad for those of us who want our own laws and regulations to use the US template (is that OK ?), to hear that all is not well in paradise . Perhaps it is because fiqures are readily available , and elsewhere they are not . Or is it because the system is closer to the ideal than others and hence the flaws stand out . Of course it is a very dynamic culture . And when you go fast things go wrong.
I think the young head for something new , however ghastly it may be . I have come to the conclusion that computers unlike cars , trains music...don't make you feel better.
Hi 0x0000, Well you got your name right . I just happened to see your message. It is nice to know that all americans are law abiding citizens . Well we get a lot of your TV crap . We see what cheap thrills your cops get when chasing sometime law abiding citizens . Last we saw them almost kill a pregnant woman and her husband , who was being driven fast to a hospital . We also heard of 15 bullets being pumped into a citizen because he put his hand in his pocket. Sure all that is great . Just happened to look here did not expect this message to be around so long .
When non-amercians think of the US we automatically think of Microsoft . Its UNBELIEVABLE that the US is going to wreck the one jewel in its crown. The suggested split is the work of people who cannot distinguish between Oil, Telephones and Software. And never will . As your President joked in India , he thought Windows was something one cleaned . Great joke . But what happens when such people take important decisions. Jackson is of the same feather. We must not forget , Governments get paid because they are there , businesses for delivering the goods . Anil Bhattacharji anil.b@altavista.net Anil Bhattacharji
Linux is great . OK That's what everybody says , because everybody else is saying it . But I don't have the guts to contradict a single line of your comment.
Please do let me know how you interlaced your replies with my text. I could do it on BBSes.. But here?? I copied it to a clip board then did the needful. > Microsoft, simply put, is, and has, a monopoly in PC operating systems, and pretty > much any part of the applications realm it chooses to absorb. It does have a monoply -- right . Did that prevent companies far larger IBM , HP maybe DEC from getting in . Or was it so good that no amount of finances and intellectual resources could equal it. In that case limitations of existing laws should not be seen as a fault of the company. >For the vast majority of people, >there is no alternative whatsoever. So why don't they use public money to create alternatives instead of wasting it on litigation > For the vast majority of people, to remove every single Microsoft-written file of any > kind from their computers would render the computer utterly useless. > It wouldn't even boot, for most people. If that doesn't represent the power of a > monopoly, I don't know what does. Round one to Microsoft I think. With all due respect misuse of a monoply position maybe an infringement of some law , being one should not be . > That's the point: Microsoft has very effectively prevented any competion. By being very good . So the US which has generated so many new products or provided a market for them , needs them to be developed at the same time by 2 or more different sources. This has frequently been the worst sort of thinking in defense of Microsoft: "They're > really good at what they do; let's let them do what ever they want!" So being very good is an offense of sorts in the US.
There's a lot I don't understand about the DOJ's pursuit of Microsoft . It is more as if Judge Jackson is looking for a place in the sun by pulling down the glorious. This is popular activity of Government minions everywhere. And I am surprised to find the disease even in the US. I like Microsoft about as much as anybody else . And I have always respected US fairness and justice more than that of other Countries. Yet the DOJ seems to be defining the Software Industry as an area where , trade secrets are illegal . Until the advent of the microcomputer , software made by any company was such a hush hush affair , that even employees within the company could not get all the information . The entire computing field was of a proprietory nature . When was that description legally changed to such an extent that even keeping competitors out of a narrow area is considered illegal. Nowhere can I see any Action of Microsoft where it has prevented a new OS to be introduced in the market . Microsoft cannot be penalised for the failure of the competition to bring out an acceptable product . Companies far larger have distributed free OSes and not been very successful (OS2). A very good OS is available free (LINUX). Isn't Microsoft doing something write ? Shouldn't they be lauded instead of being hounded . If it is a monoply , it is one because of actions well within normal business ethics ( as understood by common sense and not reactionary and outdated laws ) . It is just that their knowledge of the Desk top Environment far exceeds that of any other company . Perhaps because they created the market. For a long time now the US has been seen as a nation which has been expanding the human frontier. Today Microsoft bears that flag and it would be a sad day if even 1% of the DOJs suggestions are implemented. Laws regarding monopolies , should restrict and limit unfair use of finanical muscle . I did not know that there were laws to restrict intellectual muscle too.
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I am from Meerut India . And well, I like the middle ages - no choice . It is just that I did not know that they extended to the US.
Right . I have a problem trusting any one in the(any) Government . Isn't that a problem which should be tackled in the new millenium ?
Heavy al right . Computers were always heavy until the mouse came along . But this making a lot of sense . Especially from an Indian view point where about .1% have Internet access . We can 'see' both the world he is talking about . What is primitive to the west as well as the 'modern', and I suppose technocratic.
"They saw a medium where a dolt like me could post commentary that thousands of people can read, as opposed to TV/Radio/Newpapers where I'd never be given the opportunity to speak." I think this free speech is one the beauties of the Net . We are not restricted by the intellect of the 'Editors' who throw out what they don't understand.
Nobody wants to hear facts . They are boring. And they upset.
I wanted to use IE 5 but can't because of space . I read somewhere pages using HTML 4.0 are ignored by search engines ? True / false ? And I cant get publish to work on netscape.
To that I would like to add. Is that all ? The US holds a special place in the psyche of every citizen of this earth . And it is very sad for those of us who want our own laws and regulations to use the US template (is that OK ?), to hear that all is not well in paradise . Perhaps it is because fiqures are readily available , and elsewhere they are not . Or is it because the system is closer to the ideal than others and hence the flaws stand out . Of course it is a very dynamic culture . And when you go fast things go wrong.
I think the young head for something new , however ghastly it may be . I have come to the conclusion that computers unlike cars , trains music ...don't make you feel better.
Are all of us in that pretty state . Even in the US. "The most modern of all ". Only Singapore seems to have done away with agriculture.
Hi 0x0000, Well you got your name right . I just happened to see your message. It is nice to know that all americans are law abiding citizens . Well we get a lot of your TV crap . We see what cheap thrills your cops get when chasing sometime law abiding citizens . Last we saw them almost kill a pregnant woman and her husband , who was being driven fast to a hospital . We also heard of 15 bullets being pumped into a citizen because he put his hand in his pocket. Sure all that is great . Just happened to look here did not expect this message to be around so long .
When non-amercians think of the US we automatically think of Microsoft . Its UNBELIEVABLE that the US is going to wreck the one jewel in its crown. The suggested split is the work of people who cannot distinguish between Oil, Telephones and Software. And never will . As your President joked in India , he thought Windows was something one cleaned . Great joke . But what happens when such people take important decisions. Jackson is of the same feather. We must not forget , Governments get paid because they are there , businesses for delivering the goods . Anil Bhattacharji anil.b@altavista.net Anil Bhattacharji
And I thought Pentium etc were just an extension of the same instruction set .
Linux is great . OK That's what everybody says , because everybody else is saying it . But I don't have the guts to contradict a single line of your comment.
Would shifting to Canada solve Microsofts Problems ?
Please do let me know how you interlaced your replies with my text. I could do it on BBSes .. But here?? I copied it to a clip board then did the needful. > Microsoft, simply put, is, and has, a monopoly in PC operating systems, and pretty > much any part of the applications realm it chooses to absorb. It does have a monoply -- right . Did that prevent companies far larger IBM , HP maybe DEC from getting in . Or was it so good that no amount of finances and intellectual resources could equal it. In that case limitations of existing laws should not be seen as a fault of the company. >For the vast majority of people, >there is no alternative whatsoever. So why don't they use public money to create alternatives instead of wasting it on litigation > For the vast majority of people, to remove every single Microsoft-written file of any > kind from their computers would render the computer utterly useless. > It wouldn't even boot, for most people. If that doesn't represent the power of a > monopoly, I don't know what does. Round one to Microsoft I think. With all due respect misuse of a monoply position maybe an infringement of some law , being one should not be . > That's the point: Microsoft has very effectively prevented any competion. By being very good . So the US which has generated so many new products or provided a market for them , needs them to be developed at the same time by 2 or more different sources. This has frequently been the worst sort of thinking in defense of Microsoft: "They're > really good at what they do; let's let them do what ever they want!" So being very good is an offense of sorts in the US.
There's a lot I don't understand about the DOJ's pursuit of Microsoft .
It is more as if Judge Jackson is looking for a place in the sun by pulling down the glorious. This is popular activity of Government minions everywhere. And I am surprised to find the disease even in the US.
I like Microsoft about as much as anybody else . And I have always respected US fairness and justice more than that of other Countries.
Yet the DOJ seems to be defining the Software Industry as an area where , trade secrets are illegal . Until the advent of the microcomputer , software made by any company was such a hush hush affair , that even employees within the company could not get all the information . The entire computing field was of a proprietory nature . When was that description legally changed to such an extent that even keeping competitors out of a narrow area is considered illegal.
Nowhere can I see any Action of Microsoft where it has prevented a new OS to be introduced in the market . Microsoft cannot be penalised for the failure of the competition to bring out an acceptable product . Companies far larger have distributed free OSes and not been very successful (OS2). A very good OS is available free (LINUX). Isn't Microsoft doing something write ? Shouldn't they be lauded instead of being hounded .
If it is a monoply , it is one because of actions well within normal business ethics ( as understood by common sense and not reactionary and outdated laws ) . It is just that their knowledge of the Desk top Environment far exceeds that of any other company . Perhaps because they created the market.
For a long time now the US has been seen as a nation which has been expanding the human frontier. Today Microsoft bears that flag and it would be a sad day if even 1% of the DOJs suggestions are implemented.
Laws regarding monopolies , should restrict and limit unfair use of finanical muscle . I did not know that there were laws to restrict intellectual muscle too.