Re:Cutting off you nose to spite your face
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The LDP and Debian
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I will do my best for our documentation not to be removed from the "free" section during this freeze.
3 years ago, we did draft the LDPL "non free" with a purpose: most of our authors did want it that way! Documentation is not software.
Moreover, there was no really free documentation license. Now we have 2 of them which please most of our authors. Fine. Let's move forward.
Your solution (requesting an exception, or a different code freeze date) is the last resort.
I would feel better if the authors did accept the license change. I will contact each one of them - if most of them change the license, I don't think debian would have a problem granting us a separate code-freeze date while we fix the remaining documents.
Else I would welcome any volunteer to join the LDP and rewrite the documents.
Just give more money to the public school system, improve the quality of teaching from k12 to college (introduce computer science or coding ?) and you'll have better results !
Yes I remember the story, but the end never show her, you are not told she is alive : you just have to believe, believe the story is true, believe she has the faith - just like what she did when she jumped !
God I like this kind of endings, when you're left to your own belief about what happened.
And don't worry about her desert boyfriend - I'm jure he will jump too, to meet her in a sequel:-)
I have been very lucky - I could see it about 2 months ago as a premiere in France.
IMHO it's the best movie I saw this year, at least the one that made me dream.
It is really what people need now - truth in the faith, honor, and a good dose of magic (do you really beleive kung-fu can make you fly?)
(BTW a spoiler : I believe in the end she doesn't commit suicide but instead will fly)
RIAA, MPAA and Hollywood f3eAR - China 3L33t art is coming !
Of course it was not commercial (no banners, nothing to sell, etc.), just free medical information about reseach, new therapies,...
Yet one day the single sysadm decided that medical information was "off topic" on the univ. network, and blocked all the ports of my machines
I moved the site to another french university where I know the admins, but this BOFH threatened them, and asked them to remove the site asap
2 weeks later I installed it in the us, and sent a humoristic email to the BOFH : "you didn't succeeded".
That's the whole story ; free speech is not really protected in France, and there are anal rules for medical information ; a bit like the DMCA in the US.
IMHO, Napster should act accordingly : don't fight, comply with the laws i.e. kick the users abusing copyrights on request from the copyright holder.
Then move (chess-like) , i.e. let people use anonymising software, don't log their IP or their usernames : the other guys will have to forgive all this because it is a battle they can't win.
Why hell should Napster spend time and money in legal battles against artists? Let it go! As Patton said, "don't die for your country, but make the other guy die for his country".
In this very case, Napster is taking risks (in a PR point of view) while they could just sit back and see what will Metallica do next to hamper their own reputation. (ok, it is *not* really like the WW2, but I really like Patton fortunes anyway:-)
Did I start a legal battle? Nope. I just moved it to a counntry where free speech is protected (hint: see the nifty 'made with pride in the US' picture on the top of the page)
Guess what? The guys from my univ who caused me problems can not do anything now. And they already have ruined their reputation in this 'battle'.
I am really interested in these stupid laws stories since I have my website oversea in the good Ol' US ; see the "made with pride in the USA" picture.
Why?
Because there is no real free speech in europe, and we depend on the US for free speech. Will EU have to rely on the US to fight stupid patents? We can't since america already has software patents.
Last week the EU parliement considered keeping ban on software patents, following the Germany advice. Damn good idea, and a real advantage over the US (that and free crypto) but the brits are alas part of the EU, and want to stick their crappy patents deep in my throat.
Why fighting software patents if any company can trademark smells. What will be next? Color patents? Or maybe music patents?
I can imagine this : "Mr MP3.com artist, your musing sounds too much like metallica, even if it is completely different, so cease&desist&go hell
Joe Lawyer".
Maybe I should trademark foot smell and foul words to get $$$$...
I've already had my load of problems with the stupid french laws (hell, I'm a french citizen therefore I have no free speech even on the internet !)
To avoid any kind of ftp-from-france problems, I am administering the website from a remote shell account in the USA too.
If one day I am prosecuted and ruled guilty, I'll consider "demander l'asile politque aux USA":-))
Did you now my univ threatened another university in France where I had to move the website after it was decided by a single administrator that this website was not in the policy of the univ?
This bloody idiot was running a NT and had no idea of what 'dynamic' of 'perl' meant and said I should consider moving to geocities or chez.com
This kind of providence-state-feed idiots with honests taxpayers' money is a disgrace to the whole EU.
Why knock a good thing? At the moment Linux needs some decent applications to allow people to do all the basic tasks - word processing, spreadsheets, graphics etc. Whether or not they are open source is currently irrelevent - their presence aids the acceptance of Linux outside of the tech community.
We *DON'T* need them. Just look at KDE 2 with all the office applications. Linux is free as free speech. I don't want free beer (I'd prefer free wine by the way) I want software I can modifiy, enhance, tweak for my own needs. I have no problem with people making money on free software as long as it remains free software, free as free speech.
I think it was marked flamebait because I did express my feelings a bit too harshly (hey, who can stay cool all day long except a dead body?) There's a guy wondering why I say "we". "We" the society? "We" the governement? No, "We" means the parents, but most slashdotters are not parents. A separate TLD would let find porn *AND* prevent finding porn. Very simple, and quoting ||Deech|| free speech is also freedom not to listen. I do support guns, free speech and privacy, but I do not want porn anywhere, with redirection &c.
You understand my concerns; if they have already printed and sold a book made from comments why hell wouldn't they sell the copyrights of the comments to microsoft?
Have you read 32bits online comment of Katz book story?
Quite interesting indeed, they do what they want with what we post.
Therefore I say "Go Microsoft!" maybe this will help slashdot improving his intellectual property policy:->
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I will do my best for our documentation not to be removed from the "free" section during this freeze. 3 years ago, we did draft the LDPL "non free" with a purpose: most of our authors did want it that way! Documentation is not software.
Moreover, there was no really free documentation license. Now we have 2 of them which please most of our authors. Fine. Let's move forward.
Your solution (requesting an exception, or a different code freeze date) is the last resort.
I would feel better if the authors did accept the license change. I will contact each one of them - if most of them change the license, I don't think debian would have a problem granting us a separate code-freeze date while we fix the remaining documents.
Else I would welcome any volunteer to join the LDP and rewrite the documents.
Guylhem P. Aznar
LDP coordinator
Here is an article in French about pliant, focusing on the possibilities for end users, internet servers and embedded systems.
Just give more money to the public school system, improve the quality of teaching from k12 to college (introduce computer science or coding ?) and you'll have better results !
God I like this kind of endings, when you're left to your own belief about what happened.
And don't worry about her desert boyfriend - I'm jure he will jump too, to meet her in a sequel :-)
I have been very lucky - I could see it about 2 months ago as a premiere in France. IMHO it's the best movie I saw this year, at least the one that made me dream. It is really what people need now - truth in the faith, honor, and a good dose of magic (do you really beleive kung-fu can make you fly?) (BTW a spoiler : I believe in the end she doesn't commit suicide but instead will fly) RIAA, MPAA and Hollywood f3eAR - China 3L33t art is coming !
On both sites, no registration is required.
- I was hosting a slash-like website on one of my computers, using my univ. lines
- Of course it was not commercial (no banners, nothing to sell, etc.), just free medical information about reseach, new therapies,...
- Yet one day the single sysadm decided that medical information was "off topic" on the univ. network, and blocked all the ports of my machines
- I moved the site to another french university where I know the admins, but this BOFH threatened them, and asked them to remove the site asap
- 2 weeks later I installed it in the us, and sent a humoristic email to the BOFH : "you didn't succeeded".
That's the whole story ; free speech is not really protected in France, and there are anal rules for medical information ; a bit like the DMCA in the US.IMHO, Napster should act accordingly : don't fight, comply with the laws i.e. kick the users abusing copyrights on request from the copyright holder.
Then move (chess-like) , i.e. let people use anonymising software, don't log their IP or their usernames : the other guys will have to forgive all this because it is a battle they can't win.
They can't cut the whole internet.
Let it go!
As Patton said, "don't die for your country, but make the other guy die for his country".
In this very case, Napster is taking risks (in a PR point of view) while they could just sit back and see what will Metallica do next to hamper their own reputation. (ok, it is *not* really like the WW2, but I really like Patton fortunes anyway :-)
As I previously said, I had problems with my medical website in my country.
Did I start a legal battle? Nope. I just moved it to a counntry where free speech is protected (hint: see the nifty 'made with pride in the US' picture on the top of the page)
Guess what? The guys from my univ who caused me problems can not do anything now.
And they already have ruined their reputation in this 'battle'.
So can I start a "El Cheapo Cola" business and copy their taste? Will you be my lawyer ?
(bad idea BTW, I'd better copy Pepsi, at least is has a real taste. Coke tastes like fuel)
I am really interested in these stupid laws stories since I have my website oversea in the good Ol' US ; see the "made with pride in the USA" picture.
Why?
Because there is no real free speech in europe, and we depend on the US for free speech. Will EU have to rely on the US to fight stupid patents?
We can't since america already has software patents.
Last week the EU parliement considered keeping ban on software patents, following the Germany advice.
Damn good idea, and a real advantage over the US (that and free crypto) but the brits are alas part of the EU, and want to stick their crappy patents deep in my throat.
Why fighting software patents if any company can trademark smells. What will be next? Color patents? Or maybe music patents?
I can imagine this : "Mr MP3.com artist, your musing sounds too much like metallica, even if it is completely different, so cease&desist&go hell
Joe Lawyer".
Maybe I should trademark foot smell and foul words to get $$$$...
Nothing to sell, no banners... yet my crappy univ considered it hazardeous.
FYI, the admin thought perl was a kind of java and dynamic meant it used parts from other sites with frames.
I've already had my load of problems with the stupid french laws (hell, I'm a french citizen therefore I have no free speech even on the internet !)
To avoid any kind of ftp-from-france problems, I am administering the website from a remote shell account in the USA too.
If one day I am prosecuted and ruled guilty, I'll consider "demander l'asile politque aux USA" :-))
Did you now my univ threatened another university in France where I had to move the website after it was decided by a single administrator that this website was not in the policy of the univ?
This bloody idiot was running a NT and had no idea of what 'dynamic' of 'perl' meant and said I should consider moving to geocities or chez.com
This kind of providence-state-feed idiots with honests taxpayers' money is a disgrace to the whole EU.
We *DON'T* need them. Just look at KDE 2 with all the office applications. Linux is free as free speech. I don't want free beer (I'd prefer free wine by the way) I want software I can modifiy, enhance, tweak for my own needs. I have no problem with people making money on free software as long as it remains free software, free as free speech.
IHMO, the issue is not biological-like network but neural network application.
Did you try neural nets?
It is pretty impressive how it can be used to solve problems for which no mathematical model is available.
I think biology can provide computer science many useful models and theories ; look at the beautiful "biological machines" god created (humans).
Don't you think we could learn from that to improve computer science ?
I think it was marked flamebait because I did express my feelings a bit too harshly (hey, who can stay cool all day long except a dead body?) There's a guy wondering why I say "we". "We" the society? "We" the governement? No, "We" means the parents, but most slashdotters are not parents. A separate TLD would let find porn *AND* prevent finding porn. Very simple, and quoting ||Deech|| free speech is also freedom not to listen. I do support guns, free speech and privacy, but I do not want porn anywhere, with redirection &c.
This "valueporn" is just as stupid as the rest of the porn, and just as unbearable.
.com to be squatted by pornographs perverting kids?
.xxx which a parent-restrict option and heavy fines and prosections for bypasser.
:-)
Why should we allow
I would support a
Moreover, this would remove the need of the so called net filters.
This would preserved "free speech" but would ensure those who do not want porn would never get it.
BTW DDOS are nice, there are fewer messages
You understand my concerns; if they have already printed and sold a book made from comments why hell wouldn't they sell the copyrights of the comments to microsoft?
:->
Have you read 32bits online comment of Katz book story?
Quite interesting indeed, they do what they want with what we post.
Therefore I say "Go Microsoft!" maybe this will help slashdot improving his intellectual property policy
May I suggest you sell slashdot and slashdot comments copyrights to Microsoft? Better selling them than removing them. -- Do not remove me !