But it does indicate that it is bigotry in search of a justification that drives the mohammed was a pedo meme.
How exactly do you figure? Do you think it's impossible for a pedophile to get aroused by older women too?
As for the direct issue of Aisha's age, the bigots have chosen numbers that fit their narative. It's not anywhere near so obvious as they make it out to be, with plenty of evidence that she was well into her teens.
This is actually the first decent argument I've seen on the topic. However, do muslims get to pick and choose what parts of the Hadith they believe to be true? If the Hadith is wrong about the age of Aisha, what else is it wrong about, and why should any muslim put their faith in it?
And, just so we're clear, if the Hadith is correct about the age of Aisha, then Muhammed is reprehensible, correct?
In other words, "If you could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people. House, M.D." Magical thinking is a blight upon humanity.
Censorship used to actually work. Now, it really doesn't, even where they try to implement it.
The US has demonstrated that censorship is unnecessary. Instead of suppressing ideas, co-opt them and blame the other party when you never actually follow through. It's a lot easier to trick people into thinking they have a choice than it is to use force. Ask any magician.
Specific favors? No, I don't follow the petroleum industry that closely. But we have a terrible record at holding large corporations accountable for crimes. That can only be attractive to cartels.
Besides, whether Aramco can innovate is irrelevant. Patent trolls don't deter major corporations, they have the funds to fight. What patent trolls do is destroy individual innovation, outside of a corporate structure. You know, the kind of innovation one expects to see in a free country.
In other news, we're still waiting for Lloyd Blankfein, CEO of a company responsible for hundreds of felony counts of perjury and fraud, to take the same ride. The rule of law is dead in America.
Americans are more gullible and steeped in imperial propaganda then any Muslim is in guile to religious ideas - not that Americans should talk, as the country is crawling with fundamentalist Christianity more than any other industrialized nation.
Indeed. The major reason why we have a military presence in the middle east is to protect Israel. The major reason we care so much about Israel is because it is prominent in evangelical end-times theology. Christianity can be blamed for much of America's war mongering.
Surely there are people in the muslim world who can stand up and say "Look friends, you're being manipulated. Why are you falling for this?"
You could say the same thing about Americans. Greater than 90% of voters vote for one of the two major parties. I wish someone would stand up and say "Look friends, you're being manipulated. Why are you falling for this?"
Unfortunately, the religious zealots are not the problem here. Religious zealots are a minority, both of the rioters and in general.
If the rioters are not religious zealots, what exactly are they rioting about?
The video was nothing more than an excuse (perhaps to themselves) for this sort of behavior
Anyone who uses offense to their religion as an excuse to commit violence is a religious zealot.
I doubt that most of them have even seen the video.
That's even worse. If "hey, I heard some guy in another country made a video that insults our prophet" is enough to get you to storm the embassy and murder people, that's not just religious zealotry that's extreme religious zealotry.
you'll see problems with people who can't play the original HL because of weird incompatibility issues related to its age
That's funny. Just the other day people were saying that the big problem with Linux as a platform was constant breakage of backwards compatibility. But Half-Life works perfectly on Wine to this day.
Until secure boot is mandatory, and your OS refuses to play any file that hasn't been blessed by the MAFIAA. We're heading to a post general purpose computing world, where common computers are appliances which heavily restrict what one can do with them.
I still don't understand what was wrong with the original Half-Life? I'd love to play a fan made episode of Half-Life, but if I want to play Half-Life itself, it works great in Wine.
Is anyone else sick of remakes? Fan made or official, I don't care. Try something new!
Yeah, it's all shades of grey until its your speech they target.
This brings to mind the old joke about a man who approaches a woman in a bar and says "would you sleep with me for a million dollars?". She thinks and says "OK". Then the man says "would you sleep with me for 5 dollars?". Agahst the woman exclaims "What kind of woman do you think I am?" The man replies, "We already know what kind of woman you are, now we're just haggling over price."
Principle means something, and without it you're just a whore. Maybe you want to live in a world where essential liberties are sacrificed if it economically benefits the powerful, but I sure as hell don't.
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Is it running on top of a typical POSIX environment on which I can run bash? That's all I want from a pocket computer.
But it does indicate that it is bigotry in search of a justification that drives the mohammed was a pedo meme.
How exactly do you figure? Do you think it's impossible for a pedophile to get aroused by older women too?
As for the direct issue of Aisha's age, the bigots have chosen numbers that fit their narative. It's not anywhere near so obvious as they make it out to be, with plenty of evidence that she was well into her teens.
This is actually the first decent argument I've seen on the topic. However, do muslims get to pick and choose what parts of the Hadith they believe to be true? If the Hadith is wrong about the age of Aisha, what else is it wrong about, and why should any muslim put their faith in it?
And, just so we're clear, if the Hadith is correct about the age of Aisha, then Muhammed is reprehensible, correct?
In other words, "If you could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people. House, M.D." Magical thinking is a blight upon humanity.
Censorship used to actually work. Now, it really doesn't, even where they try to implement it.
The US has demonstrated that censorship is unnecessary. Instead of suppressing ideas, co-opt them and blame the other party when you never actually follow through. It's a lot easier to trick people into thinking they have a choice than it is to use force. Ask any magician.
Since when are young girls in arranged marriages given a choice? Since when is a 9 year old girl even capable of making such a choice? Be realistic.
actually non-consensual
Uhuh. And what exactly do you think would have happend if Aisha had said "no"? If you're not offered a choice, you cannot consent. That's rape.
Oh, so if I get married to a 50 year old woman, it's OK with you if I rape a 9 year old? I guess it all averages out or something?
The factor that's usually dropped from the historical rendering is that you were required to have a lifelong commitment to the individual.
Is this the same concept under which a rapist has to marry his victim, and then it's all OK? And you're suggesting this is a mitigating factor?
Sorry no. The fact that the kid was raped at 9 years old is bad enough. The fact that she had no choice to ever leave her rapist makes it even worse.
Specific favors? No, I don't follow the petroleum industry that closely. But we have a terrible record at holding large corporations accountable for crimes. That can only be attractive to cartels.
Besides, whether Aramco can innovate is irrelevant. Patent trolls don't deter major corporations, they have the funds to fight. What patent trolls do is destroy individual innovation, outside of a corporate structure. You know, the kind of innovation one expects to see in a free country.
Lloyd Blankfein, Jamie Dimon, Vikram Pandit, etc seem to be well-regarded by law enforcement.
As an example, why do international companies in the petroleum industry routinely do business in the states?
Because we have a corrupt government that gives favors to powerful industries.
In other news, we're still waiting for Lloyd Blankfein, CEO of a company responsible for hundreds of felony counts of perjury and fraud, to take the same ride. The rule of law is dead in America.
No, the fact that many middle eastern muslims are violent religious zealots absolutely does not justify wars of aggression against them.
Americans are more gullible and steeped in imperial propaganda then any Muslim is in guile to religious ideas - not that Americans should talk, as the country is crawling with fundamentalist Christianity more than any other industrialized nation.
Indeed. The major reason why we have a military presence in the middle east is to protect Israel. The major reason we care so much about Israel is because it is prominent in evangelical end-times theology. Christianity can be blamed for much of America's war mongering.
Surely there are people in the muslim world who can stand up and say "Look friends, you're being manipulated. Why are you falling for this?"
You could say the same thing about Americans. Greater than 90% of voters vote for one of the two major parties. I wish someone would stand up and say "Look friends, you're being manipulated. Why are you falling for this?"
Are you sure about that?
Yes, he consummated the relationship when she was 9. 9 year olds dude.
And what about that made them target the US embassy? Is the US responsible for the lack of democracy in Libya?
Unfortunately, the religious zealots are not the problem here. Religious zealots are a minority, both of the rioters and in general.
If the rioters are not religious zealots, what exactly are they rioting about?
The video was nothing more than an excuse (perhaps to themselves) for this sort of behavior
Anyone who uses offense to their religion as an excuse to commit violence is a religious zealot.
I doubt that most of them have even seen the video.
That's even worse. If "hey, I heard some guy in another country made a video that insults our prophet" is enough to get you to storm the embassy and murder people, that's not just religious zealotry that's extreme religious zealotry.
you'll see problems with people who can't play the original HL because of weird incompatibility issues related to its age
That's funny. Just the other day people were saying that the big problem with Linux as a platform was constant breakage of backwards compatibility. But Half-Life works perfectly on Wine to this day.
True, we do not have a feudal system. But the system we do have is no better than feudalism.
We live better today than every single human ever prior to 1850.
Ah, so the crumbs have gotten bigger, and we're supposed to not notice that all we're getting are crumbs?
The graphics are 14 years old.
And? Vermeer's Girl with a Pearl Earring is over 300 years old. Great works of art don't become less beautiful because they are old.
The analog hole will never be plugged
Until secure boot is mandatory, and your OS refuses to play any file that hasn't been blessed by the MAFIAA. We're heading to a post general purpose computing world, where common computers are appliances which heavily restrict what one can do with them.
I still don't understand what was wrong with the original Half-Life? I'd love to play a fan made episode of Half-Life, but if I want to play Half-Life itself, it works great in Wine.
Is anyone else sick of remakes? Fan made or official, I don't care. Try something new!
Yeah, it's all shades of grey until its your speech they target.
This brings to mind the old joke about a man who approaches a woman in a bar and says "would you sleep with me for a million dollars?". She thinks and says "OK". Then the man says "would you sleep with me for 5 dollars?". Agahst the woman exclaims "What kind of woman do you think I am?" The man replies, "We already know what kind of woman you are, now we're just haggling over price."
Principle means something, and without it you're just a whore. Maybe you want to live in a world where essential liberties are sacrificed if it economically benefits the powerful, but I sure as hell don't.