From the developer's point, it's easier to either use standard widgets or themable ones. Mixing both widget libraries is not something funny, and you'll have your code full of unnecessary switches or if/else-if/else.
More simple to propose a default theme who looks like the standard, or to develop for desktop environments that handle themables widgets, thus you don't even have to write the theme engine yourself. Both GNOME and KDE now support themable widgets. If you want to develop for Windows, give a look at Qt, it's a GUI library whose widget can support themes, and the default just looks like the standard interface. GTK+ and Imlib have also been ported to Windows, and I think it can handle themes also (I don't have developed with them yet, but I'll be surprised they can't).
Of course you can. You can run Unices on every computers known of mankind, except for my good ol' Casio FX7700G calculator. Yellow Dog is the most known Macintosh Linux Distro, but you can find other Linux. I don't know about *BSD, but I'll be surprised if there are none running on Mac.
And Java's Not Unix (hum, not a recursive acronym); it's a programming language whose programs run on virtual machines (kinda like an emulator). It's however possible to have a true compilator for Java (I believe GCJ can process native code and Java bytecode).
Those who would be really happy with no more gov'ts are mafias. They have everything they need to replace nowaday's gov'ts: mercenary armies, guards, intelligence services and other. They have all they need to replace the force and violence of the FBI, etc. In fact, as seen in formerly sovietic countries, this kind of men is very likely to join a mafia if there is no more a real gov't.
But mafias surely don't have healthcare or other social interest, except for their bigbosses. How, neither American gov't, or am I wrong?
True anarchy can't exist in populated area. Anarchy in the first meaning of the word, without power, needs very little human colony, small villages of less than 200 peoples, scattered and far, far away from the nearest other village. Then, it need also a strong anarchic culture, with people loving and wanting neither command nor be commanded. It has been historically proven that larger human population need rules and law to avoid barbary. It's also proven that if nobody hold power, someone will want it and take it.
It's sure a video game alone can't change a peaceful kid in a raging bloodthisty nut. If this ever happen, we'll found out the peaceful kid was already seriously disturbed. It's up to the parent to educate their children, and it could involve preventing them to act like a couch potato 24/7 before overgore TV or games screens. If it become the judge's or cop's duty, it will only prove a gravely ill society. Maybe some parent don't want to recognize they've badly educated their kids, and will want that judges becomes nurses.
It could be also useful to question the relative place of money and human lives in today's world. As long as mankind will be a tool for economy insted of economy being a tool for mankind, as long as the ultimate success will be to be richer than our neighbours, as long as we will consider every rich man has well deserved his reward... Well, as long as all this, an human life won't appear to be something really important, particularly another's life.
It may also be because one of the cause of the problem isn't solvable, so peoples are attacking symptoms to show they are doing something against the problem. Of course, this isn't an efficient way to solve a problem, but in today's world, it's more important to appear to do something than to actually do something.
For the Columbine example, everyone know that if fire weapons weren't so easily buyable, crazed nuts won't be so numerous to perform mass murders. Now, NRA won't allow any politician to restrict ownerships of deadly weapons. And it's well known that power is always in the hand of the ones who have guns, even if they're a minority.
Such things have more related to cowardice than to laziness. As long as America will be made up of nearly-faschist peoples thinking a man is nude without his rifle and of other too frightened to try to do something against gun trade, and prefering to blame games, TV or anything instead, this problem won't be solved.
...on the fate of mascottes. > Somewhere around 1990 they started believing their own hype and removed themselves from the reality of the marketplace the rest of the world operates in.
I found out it coincide with the disapearrance of the cute yellow butterfly, which used to be their logo. And I think it's tied: a mascotte is the soul of a project/corporation/etc. When the mascotte disapear, it's because the guys behind the organization start to think they're serious, important and influent and that trivia has no more place left. They begin to see things in a quasi military-like fashion; became agressive, dangerous and arrogant (as militaries).
On the other hand, funny symbols like Tux, the Gnu or the Gimp are signs of project made with the knowledge that they're not serious. That may not be the best word to choose, but what I mean is that someone who use a smiling penguin as symbols is not someone who want t portary himself as a kind of Emperor Palpatine with severe face and grave megalomania.
Yes, I think mascottes are an organization's soul.
> as opposed to KDE which is (AFAIK) one gargantuan program.
Hum. When launching KDE, you don't run an umpty megabyte executable. It seems you were not knowing far about KDE. KDE is built on top of Qt for mere practical reasons: the aim was not to create a desktop environment with non-gpl foundations, but t develop quickly a coherent desktop environment. Qt is, technically speaking, a really great toolkit for component programming. KFM, KDEHelp, KDevelop and all KDE apps which need to display HTML pages use the same widget in the same shared memory, for example. I, personnaly, use KDevelop, which is a really great tool, and it's not a monolithic app: it embeds already existing KDE apps like kwrite for editing, kiconedit and kpaint for pixmap editing, etc. Most tools relies on other existing tools, not always KDE ones, like SGMLtools, autoconf/automake, etc.
KDE is not one program, and it's not gargantuan.
And KOM/OpenParts and DCOP will allow component programming much like Bonobo, only a bit lightier and faster (no flames: that's not because Bononbo is badly coded; but because KDE don't try anymore to have a CORBA approach; they've designed DCOP as the bare minimum for fast inter-process minimum, thus forsaking the OMG CORBA standard. There are edges and flaws in both ways, and I don't mean either one is the best).
Personaly, I think KDE and GNOME are more complementary than concurrent: KDE look at today, GNOME look at tomorrow.
Hum. If US Federal Government become really a pain in someone's ass for creating software, I can tell you there's over 300 other countries in the world. With Internet, you won't even have to force your employees to travel. And, a little quiz: where countries is an OSS from? What laws must applies for regulating what features an OSS must include?
Sometimes, "Free" can mean free for the product developers also. And if a Judge Jackson, or John Doe, start to complain because there is a US Federal Law that clearly stipulate your wordprocessor must include a talking paperclip, you can tell him: "Go on, write the code and send it to me, I'll include it." or "What US laws? My project is a [a_country_somewhere_else_in_the world]-an one, it don't have to obey to US laws.", couldn't you?
Yes, but Windows shortcuts are just plain shit compared to an Unix symlink. The file selection dialog is the only one who can handle them, sometimes. How many times have I a selection like "*.xls" changed in "sheets.lnk" when trying to access them via a directory shortcut! Why creating easily shortcut if they're just good for launching an application? Plain *.bat files were already existing in MS-DOS.
The only thing I appreciate in Win98 is the drag'n'drop from or to the start menu. Nice.
But in windows dnd, the default action is to move or to copy, and it's rarely what i want to do.
DCOP is based on a standard mecanism of X11R6, named ICE, which is available on all modern X server
...argument encoding in DCOP is based on the Qt class QDataStream...
These words are taken from David Faure, well-known KDE hackers. It was in article published in issue #13 and #14 of Linux-Magazine France and translated by my humble person. You may be able to consult them on-line on http://www.linuxmag-france.org, or you can try to have them from David Faure (faure@kde.org). I think it means that DCOP needs *BOTH* X and Qt:).
The traditional Unix Philosophy was first applied to the unix desktop. They were several types of applications, with several types of interfaces, several types of widgets, and several different ways to do the same thing. To type in a text windows, you could need to have the mouse pointer over it, or no. A newly opened windows was sometimes having the focus, and sometimes you were needing to click it, but not always. Sometimes there was a menubar on top on the windows, sometimes just a tool bar on the left, or, like in blender, just a popup vertical menu that appears when pressing space.
One day, someone get tired of this interface inconsistency, IIRC it was Matthias Ettrich, who started the KDE project. His ambition was to have a coherent desktop environment where all interfaces behave in the same way, instead of a strange mix where only initiate can understand how to handle this popup windows. He choose to base KDE on C++ and Qt, for a number of technical reasons.
He has been very criticized for it, as Qt is not GPL. One day, Miguel de Icaza said something like "instead of lamenting on KDE's lib, let's create our own desktop based on GPL libs". Thus started GNOME, based on C and GTK+.
During a brief period, there was lots of flamewars between the two camps supporter, but now they are working together for better interoperability.
The main reason is because interface consistency is essential for GUI. In CLI, you can write a nice Perl script (use Sed if you prefer) which will extract the datas and display them as you want, or feed them to another programm STDIN. You can't do such things with windows, except if you make sure all applications can work together by respecting some protocols. Just an example: I'm using Netscape under KDE. If I copy an extract of text in Kwrite, I can't paste it in Netscape; they don't use the same buffer for copy/paste things. And there's no way to manually set a pipe between both. That's why a complete desktop environment includes mail clients, web browser, editors and other goodies.
But you can still tell Gnome to use Sawmill instead of E, KFM instead of GMC, xterm instead of gterm, etc. You can even use neither GNOME nor KDE, if you want. In a Desktop Environment, the point is made on Environment.
MICO was a mini-CORBA implementation, so it was supposed to be able to talk with any other CORBA implementation, ie ORBit.
It's up to the KDE team to work for interoperability, as it's the KDE team who've adopted a specific solution (DCOP needs both Qt and X, so it's pretty specific to KDE. Well, if you start creating another desktop environment for X-Window based on Qt, but non-connected to KDE, DCOP won't be specific anymore).
AFAIK, they are working on it, as they use a CORBA bridge.
Sorry if this has naught to to with GNOME, 'twas just an answer to an user.
AFAIK, most desktop user don't use their computer to go bashing monsters in a dank dungeon. Gnomes are a handy race, very skilled in toying with tools and gears, and that's what hacking is. Look the average nerd: does he have the stature of a barbarian warrior?:)
And, furthermore, it was more difficult to create an acronym for Gnu Network Object Modeling Environment with dwarf or halfling.
People won't be attracted to Linux because it's now esay to install and to use. They will install it because everyone tell them no more to use Bill Brother's Window$ (hum, I havn't inserted enough dollar sign). They will install them because everyone tell them: it's free, it's fast, it's fun. Then, they will buy a RH or a Corel, and read manual and call hotlines. Some despising troll-guru-wannabe will download a slackware or a debian, won't undesrtand anything, will pollute IRC, and one or two years laters, once they've get it, will flame any newbie that pass by.
I'm always surprised that all these so-called guru, so despiding for newbies, are all flaming trolls posting as Anonymous Coward.
Now, use your brain: Linux is more and more an hot stuff. The word "linux" is being printed on more and more reviews everywhere. So, a lots of wannabe-former MS-users are interesting themselves in this so-wonderful-so-powerful-so-stable-sogreat OS. This is not by spitting on RedHat that you will prevent newbies from wanting to use Linux. So, whatever you say, you WILL see hords of clueless newbie wandering around, looking for help for something or some other. What RedHat, Mandrake, SuSE, Corel and other brings is a easy to handle Linux, which will reduce the amount of question by being shipped with tech-support, manual and tutorial.
You're not forced to like that, but you can't deny the fact. The situation is a bit similar to the beginning of Internet for the mass: precious bandswith being wasted by net-newbies downloading porn (oh, but I forget, you troll-guru-lamers also need porn to compensate the fact they will never be able to seduce a girl). But there are also advantages to the new situation, advantages that your short mindedness will prevent you from seeing, like the fact that fresh blood is essential for an OS not to die.
Something/. posters seems to forget is that *NOT* everyone has (free an unlimited) Internet Access. Some haven't even access. Those pitiful lamers who can't afford huge phone bills (another thing most/. aren't aware: there are countries on the world where local communications aren't free (as in costless)). These guys need a CD (or about 2 or 3 kg of floppies) to install the nearly-latest version of the softs they uses.
And another advantages of a distro is that (if the distromaker do properly his job) new versions of all utils on the system (it's sometimes boring to consult 87-or-more homepages to look for a new version of something to install).
Mandrake 7.0 was numbered 7.0 because it was a major release: the first "pure" Mandrake (not based on RH anymore), the first with a fully graphical install (DrakX, diskDrake, etc).
Mandrake 7.0 was not just a Mandrake 6.1 with one or two package version upgraded, so it was logical to considere it a whole new version.
On the other hand, RH6.2 is just a lightly improved RH6.1, and RedHat honestly labeled it as such. I don't think Mandrake or any other distromaker will adopt a year-based version number, they let it to EA Sports games and MS.
If RH were just interested in money, they'll ship KDE as the default desktop, instead of GNOME. When they've begin to support GNOME, it was just a full-bugged prebetaversion. KDE's still more complete. Mandrake became one of the 5 major players by just reimplacing GNOME by KDE in an otherwise standard RedHat (*now*, they have an independant distros).
RH took a risk by promotting GNOME, and strongly supporting it, and it was obviously to help an Open Source project. And now that GNOME is a fairly stable and much promising desktop, one part of the thanks should go to the RH labs.
You can't say they're just a bunch of cynical businessmen; if it was the case, they would work for MS.
Finally, you could use a RedHat without giving any kopek to RH. You can download, buy a book or a magazine which ship a CD, use a CD of someone else, download from any mirror. No money to RH.
Don't whine because you've got the latest version minus 0.1... I remember a full-bugged 6.0, and a pretty stable 6.1. Who can say right now if 6.2 will be more stable than the previous?
And well, RH have now an update service, no? There are in Mandrake, Corel, and other I'm forgetting.
As a french guy I think I can say the AC who write this is a perfect troll, and a flamebait also. Or maybe just a braindead.
Removing a pro-Open Source article from public access don't mean a fascist attempt to destroy Linux.
(And, off topic but to answer the Anonymous Troll, "brave France" lose the war, elect for president an old puppet which happily collaborate with nazis; and would not have been freed without the help of her "allies who abandonned Her".)
First KDE hasn't dropped CORBA. They just weren't holding it in the 1.X branch. You can't drop what you don't hold, huh?
Second, KDE2 do have CORBA support, only it is activated only when needed and deactivated then. This means they need a daemon to lurk for CORBA call. This maybe better if you stick with KDE-based apps, but if you use true CORBA applications often, it will slow down your PC.
Also, don't forget the DCOP is particuliar to KDE, as it needs both Qt and X, whereas CORBA is a standard. You have CORBA application on Unices, Windows, BeOS, MacOS, etc. You can't port DCOP to windows because you won't have X even if you have Qt. And you can't port DCOP to Qt/Embedded for the same reason. And you can't port DCOP to GNOME because you don't have Qt. I'm a KDE-fan, but I'm not sure in the long run it was the best thing to do.
Third, CORBA is an advance in desktop computing. CORBA on unices was pioneered by GNOME, and you say that CORBA-lack was pioneered by KDE. Nonsense.
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More simple to propose a default theme who looks like the standard, or to develop for desktop environments that handle themables widgets, thus you don't even have to write the theme engine yourself. Both GNOME and KDE now support themable widgets. If you want to develop for Windows, give a look at Qt, it's a GUI library whose widget can support themes, and the default just looks like the standard interface. GTK+ and Imlib have also been ported to Windows, and I think it can handle themes also (I don't have developed with them yet, but I'll be surprised they can't).
And Java's Not Unix (hum, not a recursive acronym); it's a programming language whose programs run on virtual machines (kinda like an emulator). It's however possible to have a true compilator for Java (I believe GCJ can process native code and Java bytecode).
But mafias surely don't have healthcare or other social interest, except for their bigbosses. How, neither American gov't, or am I wrong?
True anarchy can't exist in populated area. Anarchy in the first meaning of the word, without power, needs very little human colony, small villages of less than 200 peoples, scattered and far, far away from the nearest other village. Then, it need also a strong anarchic culture, with people loving and wanting neither command nor be commanded. It has been historically proven that larger human population need rules and law to avoid barbary. It's also proven that if nobody hold power, someone will want it and take it.
It could be also useful to question the relative place of money and human lives in today's world. As long as mankind will be a tool for economy insted of economy being a tool for mankind, as long as the ultimate success will be to be richer than our neighbours, as long as we will consider every rich man has well deserved his reward... Well, as long as all this, an human life won't appear to be something really important, particularly another's life.
For the Columbine example, everyone know that if fire weapons weren't so easily buyable, crazed nuts won't be so numerous to perform mass murders. Now, NRA won't allow any politician to restrict ownerships of deadly weapons. And it's well known that power is always in the hand of the ones who have guns, even if they're a minority.
Such things have more related to cowardice than to laziness. As long as America will be made up of nearly-faschist peoples thinking a man is nude without his rifle and of other too frightened to try to do something against gun trade, and prefering to blame games, TV or anything instead, this problem won't be solved.
I found out it coincide with the disapearrance of the cute yellow butterfly, which used to be their logo. And I think it's tied: a mascotte is the soul of a project/corporation/etc. When the mascotte disapear, it's because the guys behind the organization start to think they're serious, important and influent and that trivia has no more place left. They begin to see things in a quasi military-like fashion; became agressive, dangerous and arrogant (as militaries).
On the other hand, funny symbols like Tux, the Gnu or the Gimp are signs of project made with the knowledge that they're not serious. That may not be the best word to choose, but what I mean is that someone who use a smiling penguin as symbols is not someone who want t portary himself as a kind of Emperor Palpatine with severe face and grave megalomania.
Yes, I think mascottes are an organization's soul.
Hum. When launching KDE, you don't run an umpty megabyte executable. It seems you were not knowing far about KDE. KDE is built on top of Qt for mere practical reasons: the aim was not to create a desktop environment with non-gpl foundations, but t develop quickly a coherent desktop environment. Qt is, technically speaking, a really great toolkit for component programming. KFM, KDEHelp, KDevelop and all KDE apps which need to display HTML pages use the same widget in the same shared memory, for example. I, personnaly, use KDevelop, which is a really great tool, and it's not a monolithic app: it embeds already existing KDE apps like kwrite for editing, kiconedit and kpaint for pixmap editing, etc. Most tools relies on other existing tools, not always KDE ones, like SGMLtools, autoconf/automake, etc.
KDE is not one program, and it's not gargantuan.
And KOM/OpenParts and DCOP will allow component programming much like Bonobo, only a bit lightier and faster (no flames: that's not because Bononbo is badly coded; but because KDE don't try anymore to have a CORBA approach; they've designed DCOP as the bare minimum for fast inter-process minimum, thus forsaking the OMG CORBA standard. There are edges and flaws in both ways, and I don't mean either one is the best).
Personaly, I think KDE and GNOME are more complementary than concurrent: KDE look at today, GNOME look at tomorrow.
Sometimes, "Free" can mean free for the product developers also. And if a Judge Jackson, or John Doe, start to complain because there is a US Federal Law that clearly stipulate your wordprocessor must include a talking paperclip, you can tell him: "Go on, write the code and send it to me, I'll include it." or "What US laws? My project is a [a_country_somewhere_else_in_the world]-an one, it don't have to obey to US laws.", couldn't you?
The only thing I appreciate in Win98 is the drag'n'drop from or to the start menu. Nice.
But in windows dnd, the default action is to move or to copy, and it's rarely what i want to do.
These words are taken from David Faure, well-known KDE hackers. It was in article published in issue #13 and #14 of Linux-Magazine France and translated by my humble person. You may be able to consult them on-line on http://www.linuxmag-france.org, or you can try to have them from David Faure (faure@kde.org). I think it means that DCOP needs *BOTH* X and Qt :).
One day, someone get tired of this interface inconsistency, IIRC it was Matthias Ettrich, who started the KDE project. His ambition was to have a coherent desktop environment where all interfaces behave in the same way, instead of a strange mix where only initiate can understand how to handle this popup windows. He choose to base KDE on C++ and Qt, for a number of technical reasons.
He has been very criticized for it, as Qt is not GPL. One day, Miguel de Icaza said something like "instead of lamenting on KDE's lib, let's create our own desktop based on GPL libs". Thus started GNOME, based on C and GTK+.
During a brief period, there was lots of flamewars between the two camps supporter, but now they are working together for better interoperability.
The main reason is because interface consistency is essential for GUI. In CLI, you can write a nice Perl script (use Sed if you prefer) which will extract the datas and display them as you want, or feed them to another programm STDIN. You can't do such things with windows, except if you make sure all applications can work together by respecting some protocols. Just an example: I'm using Netscape under KDE. If I copy an extract of text in Kwrite, I can't paste it in Netscape; they don't use the same buffer for copy/paste things. And there's no way to manually set a pipe between both. That's why a complete desktop environment includes mail clients, web browser, editors and other goodies.
But you can still tell Gnome to use Sawmill instead of E, KFM instead of GMC, xterm instead of gterm, etc. You can even use neither GNOME nor KDE, if you want. In a Desktop Environment, the point is made on Environment.
CORBA is a standard used on all platforms.
MICO was a mini-CORBA implementation, so it was supposed to be able to talk with any other CORBA implementation, ie ORBit.
It's up to the KDE team to work for interoperability, as it's the KDE team who've adopted a specific solution (DCOP needs both Qt and X, so it's pretty specific to KDE. Well, if you start creating another desktop environment for X-Window based on Qt, but non-connected to KDE, DCOP won't be specific anymore).
AFAIK, they are working on it, as they use a CORBA bridge.
Sorry if this has naught to to with GNOME, 'twas just an answer to an user.
And, furthermore, it was more difficult to create an acronym for Gnu Network Object Modeling Environment with dwarf or halfling.
more hype for Linux==more newbie.
People won't be attracted to Linux because it's now esay to install and to use. They will install it because everyone tell them no more to use Bill Brother's Window$ (hum, I havn't inserted enough dollar sign). They will install them because everyone tell them: it's free, it's fast, it's fun. Then, they will buy a RH or a Corel, and read manual and call hotlines. Some despising troll-guru-wannabe will download a slackware or a debian, won't undesrtand anything, will pollute IRC, and one or two years laters, once they've get it, will flame any newbie that pass by.
Now, use your brain: Linux is more and more an hot stuff. The word "linux" is being printed on more and more reviews everywhere. So, a lots of wannabe-former MS-users are interesting themselves in this so-wonderful-so-powerful-so-stable-sogreat OS. This is not by spitting on RedHat that you will prevent newbies from wanting to use Linux. So, whatever you say, you WILL see hords of clueless newbie wandering around, looking for help for something or some other. What RedHat, Mandrake, SuSE, Corel and other brings is a easy to handle Linux, which will reduce the amount of question by being shipped with tech-support, manual and tutorial.
You're not forced to like that, but you can't deny the fact. The situation is a bit similar to the beginning of Internet for the mass: precious bandswith being wasted by net-newbies downloading porn (oh, but I forget, you troll-guru-lamers also need porn to compensate the fact they will never be able to seduce a girl). But there are also advantages to the new situation, advantages that your short mindedness will prevent you from seeing, like the fact that fresh blood is essential for an OS not to die.
And another advantages of a distro is that (if the distromaker do properly his job) new versions of all utils on the system (it's sometimes boring to consult 87-or-more homepages to look for a new version of something to install).
Mandrake 7.0 was not just a Mandrake 6.1 with one or two package version upgraded, so it was logical to considere it a whole new version.
On the other hand, RH6.2 is just a lightly improved RH6.1, and RedHat honestly labeled it as such. I don't think Mandrake or any other distromaker will adopt a year-based version number, they let it to EA Sports games and MS.
(2)less trouble for newbies=less newbies asking on guru's IRC
(3)Equation solution: you're saying bullshit.
RH took a risk by promotting GNOME, and strongly supporting it, and it was obviously to help an Open Source project. And now that GNOME is a fairly stable and much promising desktop, one part of the thanks should go to the RH labs.
You can't say they're just a bunch of cynical businessmen; if it was the case, they would work for MS.
Finally, you could use a RedHat without giving any kopek to RH. You can download, buy a book or a magazine which ship a CD, use a CD of someone else, download from any mirror. No money to RH.
And well, RH have now an update service, no? There are in Mandrake, Corel, and other I'm forgetting.
Where on RH site do they put what package they ship in their release? I know they have XFree 4, but what else?
This thread begin to go severly off-topic, I think we better stop now.
I don't remember Yankees fighting in Egypt or in Algeria...
As a french guy I think I can say the AC who write this is a perfect troll, and a flamebait also. Or maybe just a braindead.
Removing a pro-Open Source article from public access don't mean a fascist attempt to destroy Linux.
(And, off topic but to answer the Anonymous Troll, "brave France" lose the war, elect for president an old puppet which happily collaborate with nazis; and would not have been freed without the help of her "allies who abandonned Her".)
Second, KDE2 do have CORBA support, only it is activated only when needed and deactivated then. This means they need a daemon to lurk for CORBA call. This maybe better if you stick with KDE-based apps, but if you use true CORBA applications often, it will slow down your PC.
Also, don't forget the DCOP is particuliar to KDE, as it needs both Qt and X, whereas CORBA is a standard. You have CORBA application on Unices, Windows, BeOS, MacOS, etc. You can't port DCOP to windows because you won't have X even if you have Qt. And you can't port DCOP to Qt/Embedded for the same reason. And you can't port DCOP to GNOME because you don't have Qt. I'm a KDE-fan, but I'm not sure in the long run it was the best thing to do.
Third, CORBA is an advance in desktop computing. CORBA on unices was pioneered by GNOME, and you say that CORBA-lack was pioneered by KDE. Nonsense.
You've well deserved your troll rating.