TIA is run by John Poindexter who was involved in Iran Contra. Iran Contra was a method of bypassing the need to use congressional funding for the Contras by selling arms to Iran and using those funds to do the Job.
These people can generate their own funds, possibly by selling some of the valuable information they collect to various marketing organizations. With the death of investigative reporting, who is going to catch them this time?
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If you send an email in clear text you need to understand that you are posting it for all to see. Whether it's a cracker, a bribed sysadmin, a bullied ISP or anyone who has tapped into your email transmission at any of dozens of points along the way.
If the law says the government can't snoop you know damn well they will do it anyway.
The big problem is not the UI. It is ordinary people getting the concept of encryption, especially public key. Hell, when public key encryption was first proposed, a lot of very smart people had a problem wrapping there brains around what would back then have been considered and oxymoron "public key"
I am currently working on a document to explain basic concepts to grand mothers and liberal arts majors. It sould appear on my new and currently lame web site next week.
Also, I plan to post some ideas for community based web of trust scenarios.
http://www.jpschultz.com (currently lame, wait a week)
I have switched from PGP to GnuPG with a WinPT front end. WinPT is a little rough around the edges (ver 0.5.5) but it's basically easy to use.
PT stands for privacy tray. You can do operations on the current window or in the clipboard either from the privacy tray window or using hot keys. It's not all there yet so there or still things that need to be done from the command line. Once set up, however, the interface is fairly easy to use for a novice (at least as easy as PGP) IF there is a basic understanding of the concepts.
Another cool thing, you can get it with an install program which will allow a user an easy install wizard which includes the GnuPG install.
I am getting a usability consultant to give me a freebie and evaluate the software from a non geek perspective. I would like to put this into some professional offices along with training and support.
You can get the software here. http://www.winpt.org/
Also, check this out. http://www.gnupg.org/frontends.html
I really believe that all that is needed is documentation and training that talks to real people.
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This seems to be more of a rant of a high-schooler who has just figured out how his school's social structure works
I will turn 50 this month and it sounds to me more like a good idea than a high school rant.
Pink Floyd: We know what you dreamed, we told you what to dream. (Welcome to the machine)
Moreover, it seems a desperate plea to make a social structure where the geeks can be cool.
Geeks are cool, everyone is cool somewhere, that's the whole point of the article.
What is with these rants lately? It seems like they are getting more and more "Please Like me..."-ish all the time.
So what's the problem with using technology to find the kind of people that you like and are liked by.
The point is, we can use the gift of a technology with global reach to decentralize our culture. This is really a return to the state we were in before we all watched the same TV shows and listened to the same songs. It is a sort of re decentralization.
The only difference between this decentralized culture and the previous is that it will not be based on region and we will be able to choose our cultural preferance without picking up and moving
We can all pick (Forgive the buzzword) our own virtual region of the world in which to live.
BTW: back in 1968 ther was a Band called AUM. I had one of there albums, It was great, It got lost in a move at some point. Any old fart geeks out there know where I can find a copy?
Whats wrong with a whole lot of really good "minor" artists
The Recording Industry has turned music into a Mcdonalds like commodity. The choices are limited to those who can get published by a major record label
We listen to the same rendition of the same songs over and over and over and we don't know anything is wrong because this is the way it has been in living memory. (and I am 50 years old).
Imagine the artistic explosion that will occur aided by modern technology and not held back by recording industry monopolies
I may not be very religous. But whether you are or not this is still a good point.
Good planets are rare, and most likely tough to reach if ever. Star trek has done us all a disservice by making it look as if we can just go right out and find another when we exaust this one.
We need to take care of what we got.
It is perfectly legal to go through a neighborhood and knock on doors to see who answers. In fact, it's called market research. Most state laws consider this a right of easement.
As long as the ICMP packets are normal and not maliciously malformed so as to either do a DOS or get more information than ICMP was designed to give. Then I don't have a problem with it.
That is why I have a network inside my firewall which you can't ping, and a network outside my firewall, provided by my company for public access, which you can ping.
Hosts on the Internet are there for public access, the internet is a public place. Use of these tools is designed to improove that access which is apparently what this company is trying to do.
ON THE OTHER HAND.
Might be fun to play with a gentle (not a DOS, throttle it back a little) Nmap scan on THEIR network. Since they are in stealth mode, they can't complain very loud:)
If the next version of Microsoft office is in the ASP model, then the majority of Microsoft users will, like sheep to the slaughter, follow microsoft office right into that model. If the company stays together, then the operating system will be tightly woven into mocrosoft.net. If the company is split, then microsoft.net, the applications, and the browser/user interface are all on one side. They talk about the next generation internet. This is embrace and extend applied to the internet, they want to own it, and this plan allows for that even if they get broken up. And you know what? Most of your clueless neighbors and your pointy haired bosses are going to go right along with it. Microsoft has evolved passed the law. Resistance, however, is not yet useless. Don't be assimilated.
1. Superluminality is claimed for the "Main Pulse"
2. The "Main Pulse" which exits on the other side 300 time faster than c, is actually constructed from information in the "tale" or "leading edge" wwith the addition of borrowed energy from the cesium.
3. The "tale" has all the information in the leading pulse.
This sounds rather like data compression, all the data in the main pulse being caried in the leading edge to be used to construct a main pulse.
The information therefore is not superluminal and not a violation of current theory.
We may not get the starship enterprise out of this, but maybe incresed bandwidth over fiber:-)
>First off, this scheme will only affect the >clueless. So privacy is not for the great unwashed?
>use proxy servers, making it impossible for ISPs >to track you Huh? Who's proxy server? If it's your proxy server they know it's you, they just don't know which one of your macines behind the proxy server. If it's your ISP's, or your company's, well, that's how your tracked.
>Secondly, the sheer volume of information >they'll need to process will be overwhelming
Information on everywhere everyone has been may be overwhelming.
However, information on where you have been or who has been where is much more targeted. Especially if some one wants to know if you have been to a specific place.
An easy search of the log files of a firewall or a sniffer. Could be done I think in real time using ngrep or some other sniffer.
>Third, there is NOTHING to stop you using >tunnels
Tunnels to where? A tunnel has two endpoints. Both of which are obvious to anyone in a position to sniff. Only the encrypted packets and headers (if they are also encrypted) inside the packets are encrypted. They may not know what you were doing, but they would know where you were.
If the tunnel is to a point from which tou can surf with out being traced, that is essentially a secondary ISP (and probobly a secondary charge).
Nothing useful has ever come of giving up on things.
I don't watch exfiles. I don't see Aliens, and I don't think alien visitations are very likely.
I do think alien civilizations exist.
I don't think it will be very easy to contact them.
I justify all three of these opinions withb one thing. Space is really really really BIG. At our present technology level I belive we could here somebody else at the same level a hundred light years out at most. That's only a few hundred star systems.
In this galaxy, (one of about 200 Billion) ther are about 400 billion stare systems. That means there could be as many as a billion civilizations in our galaxy alone and we could not here them.
If we extend our detection out to a thousand light years (the square kilometer thing?) then there could still be at least a million out there and we woudn't know.
I doubt there are that many. Most likely, however there are some.
The potential gains in contact more than justify the voluntary contributions that you seem to think it's your business to complain about.
The technology has an immediate dual use in radio astronomy and can be expected to create many other things as the technology is pushed.
Given the recent spate of ddos attacks, honeypots could help stop an attack before it takes place or at least give a heads up.
This however requires a cooperative effort at security by the community. If an agent such as trinoo is left on a honeypot, it is being left not to attack the owner of the honeypot but someone else.
If that agent is then anylized. To get a knowledge of what configurable options are being used, a suitable defense may be grafted (i.e. the sending of shutdown signals to other agents during an attack provided they can be weeded out of all the spoofed addreses.)
If the honeypot is being monitored at the time the agent is planted, it may be possible to find or at least get closer to the source.
This of course is all useless if everyone is only out to protect themselves.
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TIA is run by John Poindexter who was involved in Iran Contra. Iran Contra was a method of bypassing the need to use congressional funding for the Contras by selling arms to Iran and using those funds to do the Job.
These people can generate their own funds, possibly by selling some of the valuable information they collect to various marketing organizations. With the death of investigative reporting, who is going to catch them this time?
If you send an email in clear text you need to understand that you are posting it for all to see. Whether it's a cracker, a bribed sysadmin, a bullied ISP or anyone who has tapped into your email transmission at any of dozens of points along the way.
If the law says the government can't snoop you know damn well they will do it anyway.
If you want privacy, encrypt. Period.
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The big problem is not the UI. It is ordinary people getting the
concept of encryption, especially public key. Hell, when public key
encryption was first proposed, a lot of very smart people had a
problem wrapping there brains around what would back then have been
considered and oxymoron "public key"
I am currently working on a document to explain basic concepts to
grand mothers and liberal arts majors. It sould appear on my new and
currently lame web site next week.
Also, I plan to post some ideas for community based web of trust
scenarios.
http://www.jpschultz.com
(currently lame, wait a week)
I have switched from PGP to GnuPG with a WinPT front end. WinPT is a
little rough around the edges (ver 0.5.5) but it's basically easy to
use.
PT stands for privacy tray. You can do operations on the current
window or in the clipboard either from the privacy tray window or
using hot keys. It's not all there yet so there or still things that
need to be done from the command line. Once set up, however, the
interface is fairly easy to use for a novice (at least as easy as
PGP) IF there is a basic understanding of the concepts.
Another cool thing, you can get it with an install program which will
allow a user an easy install wizard which includes the GnuPG
install.
I am getting a usability consultant to give me a freebie and evaluate
the software from a non geek perspective. I would like to put this
into some professional offices along with training and support.
You can get the software here.
http://www.winpt.org/
Also, check this out.
http://www.gnupg.org/frontends.html
I really believe that all that is needed is documentation and
training that talks to real people.
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Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org
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The primary problem is stealth GMO's.
I want a choice! I want to know what I am eating or even using in other ways so that I can make an intelligent choice!
Why are the corporations involved in genetic engineering and there bought and paid for politicians so against labeling?
I do not like people withholding information that I want to make my decisions.
1. Politicians are cluless
2. Politiciens are for sale
I am normally not of a libertatian frame of mind, but in this case...
We should not be asking Governments to solve problems relating to spammers, hackers or any other cyber space related activities.
That's what things like the RBL are for. You can opt in for protection
As for the good senator, he is most likely going down in flames as we speak.
This seems to be more of a rant of a high-schooler who has just figured out how his school's social structure works
I will turn 50 this month and it sounds to me more like a good idea than a high school rant.
Pink Floyd: We know what you dreamed, we told you what to dream. (Welcome to the machine)
Moreover, it seems a desperate plea to make a social structure where the geeks can be cool.
Geeks are cool, everyone is cool somewhere, that's the whole point of the article.
What is with these rants lately? It seems like they are getting more and more "Please Like me..."-ish all the time.
So what's the problem with using technology to find the kind of people that you like and are liked by.
The point is, we can use the gift of a technology with global reach to decentralize our culture. This is really a return to the state we were in before we all watched the same TV shows and listened to the same songs. It is a sort of re decentralization.
The only difference between this decentralized culture and the previous is that it will not be based on region and we will be able to choose our cultural preferance without picking up and moving
We can all pick (Forgive the buzzword) our own virtual region of the world in which to live.
BTW: back in 1968 ther was a Band called AUM. I had one of there albums, It was great, It got lost in a move at some point. Any old fart geeks out there know where I can find a copy?
Why does music need "Major Artists".
Whats wrong with a whole lot of really good "minor" artists
The Recording Industry has turned music into a Mcdonalds like commodity. The choices are limited to those who can get published by a major record label
We listen to the same rendition of the same songs over and over and over and we don't know anything is wrong because this is the way it has been in living memory. (and I am 50 years old).
Imagine the artistic explosion that will occur aided by modern technology and not held back by recording industry monopolies
Uuh. Wait a minute
If a bugtraq poster uses the copyleft?
Og has flint
Zog has shells
Og trade Zog
This is the most natural model, and very old.
Then Og moves other side of mountain. Og and tribe appoint a representative to trade with Zog and tribe.
Then smart caveman becomes profesional representative, calls self merchent.
Many merchants ally and become company.
Og and Zog get dsl. Don't need Merchant anymore.
Everything back to normal.
So many fads I have seen.
Hand Calculators
Video Games
Personal Computers
Local Area Networks
Client Server
Internet
Ecommerce
And Now P2P
When will they ever learn that none of this crap works.
Where the hell's my slide rule.
Dude, If all you do is install service packs you are way vulnerable.
win2k sp1 has several holes you can drive a truck through. To keep NT4/win2k patched requires patch application plus reboot at several time a month.
At least most linux security patche don't require you reboot the system and go off line for the time it takes.
And we all love/hate George Guninski.
FREE
FREE of any 800lb gorilla corporation stomping all over me and telling me what I can't and can do
FREE to modify it any way I see fit
FREE to run what I want, whatever version I want, whatever distro I want.
THAT is what I mean by FREE
I may not be very religous. But whether you are or not this is still a good point. Good planets are rare, and most likely tough to reach if ever. Star trek has done us all a disservice by making it look as if we can just go right out and find another when we exaust this one. We need to take care of what we got.
It is perfectly legal to go through a neighborhood and knock on doors to see who answers. In fact, it's called market research. Most state laws consider this a right of easement.
:)
As long as the ICMP packets are normal and not maliciously malformed so as to either do a DOS or get more information than ICMP was designed to give. Then I don't have a problem with it.
That is why I have a network inside my firewall which you can't ping, and a network outside my firewall, provided by my company for public access, which you can ping.
Hosts on the Internet are there for public access, the internet is a public place. Use of these tools is designed to improove that access which is apparently what this company is trying to do.
ON THE OTHER HAND.
Might be fun to play with a gentle (not a DOS, throttle it back a little) Nmap scan on THEIR network. Since they are in stealth mode, they can't complain very loud
This is the best argument I can think of for NOT availing yourself of the VPN services offered by many ISP's.
Much better to roll your own with one of the many hardware or software products that will easilly allow you to create your own encrypted VPN's
Then, provided the encryption is strong enough, let them tap away.
The founding fathers created a nation in which millions were enslaved and the right to vote was only for white males who were substantial land owners.
senators were not even voted for but were appointed by there states.
blacks were counted a 3/5 human
This country was not born a democracy, it was, however born on the road to democracy.
We are now, what I would consider a Democracy. Democracy, however is easily lost. Democracy cannot be played as a spectator sport.
Corporatism is a threat to democracy (not the first or the last) that must be met.
If the next version of Microsoft office is in the ASP model, then the majority of Microsoft users will, like sheep to the slaughter, follow microsoft office right into that model. If the company stays together, then the operating system will be tightly woven into mocrosoft.net. If the company is split, then microsoft.net, the applications, and the browser/user interface are all on one side. They talk about the next generation internet. This is embrace and extend applied to the internet, they want to own it, and this plan allows for that even if they get broken up. And you know what? Most of your clueless neighbors and your pointy haired bosses are going to go right along with it. Microsoft has evolved passed the law. Resistance, however, is not yet useless. Don't be assimilated.
No No No, Behind the mastoid bone. That way your voice vibrates through to them and they can talk to you while your asleep.
Did'nt you ever see the presidents psychiatrist?
1. Superluminality is claimed for the "Main Pulse"
:-)
2. The "Main Pulse" which exits on the other side 300 time faster than c, is actually constructed from information in the "tale" or "leading edge" wwith the addition of borrowed energy from the cesium.
3. The "tale" has all the information in the leading pulse.
This sounds rather like data compression, all the data in the main pulse being caried in the leading edge to be used to construct a main pulse.
The information therefore is not superluminal and not a violation of current theory.
We may not get the starship enterprise out of this, but maybe incresed bandwidth over fiber
I think the most obvious expert system application would be tech support.
There are thousands of tech support pages for every possible thing from Networking software to portable CD playeres.
Most of the suck, a few are pretty good.
There have been many attempts to provide some good engines for this.
If you succeed in creating something which works better than what's out there you will certainly make my life easier.
Outlook is a mail client
Sendmail is a mail server
You are a moron
>First off, this scheme will only affect the >clueless.
So privacy is not for the great unwashed?
>use proxy servers, making it impossible for ISPs >to track you
Huh? Who's proxy server? If it's your proxy server they know it's you, they just don't know which one of your macines behind the proxy server. If it's your ISP's, or your company's, well, that's how your tracked.
>Secondly, the sheer volume of information >they'll need to process will be overwhelming
Information on everywhere everyone has been may be overwhelming.
However, information on where you have been or who has been where is much more targeted. Especially if some one wants to know if you have been to a specific place.
An easy search of the log files of a firewall or a sniffer. Could be done I think in real time using ngrep or some other sniffer.
>Third, there is NOTHING to stop you using >tunnels
Tunnels to where? A tunnel has two endpoints. Both of which are obvious to anyone in a position to sniff. Only the encrypted packets and headers (if they are also encrypted) inside the packets are encrypted. They may not know what you were doing, but they would know where you were.
If the tunnel is to a point from which tou can surf with out being traced, that is essentially a secondary ISP (and probobly a secondary charge).
Frankly, you sound a bit clueless yourself.
Microsoft was seduced by the dark side. AOL was born on the dark side.
Nothing useful has ever come of giving up on things.
I don't watch exfiles. I don't see Aliens, and I don't think alien visitations are very likely.
I do think alien civilizations exist.
I don't think it will be very easy to contact them.
I justify all three of these opinions withb one thing. Space is really really really BIG. At our present technology level I belive we could here somebody else at the same level a hundred light years out at most. That's only a few hundred star systems.
In this galaxy, (one of about 200 Billion) ther are about 400 billion stare systems. That means there could be as many as a billion civilizations in our galaxy alone and we could not here them.
If we extend our detection out to a thousand light years (the square kilometer thing?) then there could still be at least a million out there and we woudn't know.
I doubt there are that many. Most likely, however there are some.
The potential gains in contact more than justify the voluntary contributions that you seem to think it's your business to complain about.
The technology has an immediate dual use in radio astronomy and can be expected to create many other things as the technology is pushed.
Given the recent spate of ddos attacks, honeypots could help stop an attack before it takes place or at least give a heads up.
This however requires a cooperative effort at security by the community. If an agent such as trinoo is left on a honeypot, it is being left not to attack the owner of the honeypot but someone else.
If that agent is then anylized. To get a knowledge of what configurable options are being used, a suitable defense may be grafted (i.e. the sending of shutdown signals to other agents during an attack provided they can be weeded out of all the spoofed addreses.)
If the honeypot is being monitored at the time the agent is planted, it may be possible to find or at least get closer to the source.
This of course is all useless if everyone is only out to protect themselves.