Aren't you supposed to be paying attention to the conference instead of playing Angry Birds or posting photos to facebook or leud comments to twitter?
aren't you supposed to be your real-time eyes and ears at this conference? we want to see the competitor's machines in action. get over there right away
Not for causing oil rig explosion that killed people, oil spills, coal ash wash outs, nearly destroying the global financial system, lying about the company prospects... nothing seems to put the top bosses in jail.
Have any of those people signed consent decrees, agreeing that they are guilty of contempt of court if they violate the decree?
One where I'm going to start a company and make billions of dollars then retire rich after paying $750M in fines and promising a judge that I'll never do it again.
but first you have to get your mother's permission
Marvin Chaney, 61, founder of RoboVault, was taken into custody by U.S. Marshals on January 29 on the orders of U.S. Bankruptcy Judge John K. Olson for violation of court orders.
Brandon bankruptcy attorney O. Reginald Osenton commented, “This goes to show you how important it is to follow carefully a judge's instructions, no matter what type of case you are involved in.”
Olson issued the arrest order after Chaney and his attorney, Lawrence Wrenn, did not show up for a court hearing on January 17. Appearing shackled before the judge, Chaney said that Wrenn had advised him not to attend the hearing and that he had tried his best to produce the records that had been requested of him.
the first fine is a slap on the wrist, but if they continue the next fine will be substantially larger, order of magnitude larger. The FCC might only slap on the wrist for 1st offense, but they get real serious when people don't follow their direct orders.
they signed a settlement agreement in the court room, so further infractions are really "contempt of court" with immediate jail for the offenders
This article is a joke. What is a "regular user" and why would slashdot care, when none of us are "regular users" ?
Some of us have lives at home (believe it or not) and some of us don't take our work home with us (believe it or not) and we are actually pretty normal users during off-hours.
Oh yeah, good thing there is no fragmentation or duplication of effort or competing incompatible layers in open source.
None at all.
who is talking about open source in general? Nobody. we are talking about NTP implementations. How much fragmentation is there in NTP implementations? Really? Huh?
Okay, not that I don't love open source, but you're not making a great argument.
duh, straw men don't fight back. you put words in their mouth and you argue with those words. haven't you got the basics of bad arguing down yet?
TCP is great if you want the accuracy of calling someone on the phone and saying "now".
this is totally bizarre statement, tcp streams get backed up, packets get retransmitted, data arrives at the client at a completely indeterminate time.
Who are you going to charge for the "new releases"?
There are actually people out there who want features bad enough, that are willing to pay other people to write them. Generally people do not work for free.
there should be automated testing and if the patch fails it should be sent back
Yeah that one made me laugh pretty good, assuming that all your tests are perfect and any failures are bad patches.
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Aren't you supposed to be paying attention to the conference instead of playing Angry Birds or posting photos to facebook or leud comments to twitter?
aren't you supposed to be your real-time eyes and ears at this conference? we want to see the competitor's machines in action. get over there right away
The way to get around this is to sell the blocking technology to your competition. Money is money, it's not about the blocking.
just imagine the sales pitch: "warning: you may face heavy fines and criminal contempt charges", yes that is a great incentive
so with a full slate of criminals on their management staff, I'm sure their business is doing great
Not for causing oil rig explosion that killed people, oil spills, coal ash wash outs, nearly destroying the global financial system, lying about the company prospects... nothing seems to put the top bosses in jail.
Have any of those people signed consent decrees, agreeing that they are guilty of contempt of court if they violate the decree?
One where I'm going to start a company and make billions of dollars then retire rich after paying $750M in fines and promising a judge that I'll never do it again.
but first you have to get your mother's permission
Remember, the primary purpose of justice in the USA is revenge (a.k.a. "retribution"), not restoration.
yes, in other countries they bring back murder victims from the dead
makes burglary very attractive until that first conviction. Not much of a deterrent to all the other burglar wannabes.
this is a business model in whose universe?
Contempt of court has nothing to do with the FCC.
Your argument is irrelevant, a judge can put people in jail without a trial if they violate a consent agreement that was signed in his courtroom.
that would be the parties that signed the consent decree
even after you've been busted the fine will be less than your profits.
Violating a consent decree means go straight to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200, no trial. What business is worth that?
you can find this on google if you look:
Marvin Chaney, 61, founder of RoboVault, was taken into custody by U.S. Marshals on January 29 on the orders of U.S. Bankruptcy Judge John K. Olson for violation of court orders.
Brandon bankruptcy attorney O. Reginald Osenton commented, “This goes to show you how important it is to follow carefully a judge's instructions, no matter what type of case you are involved in.”
Olson issued the arrest order after Chaney and his attorney, Lawrence Wrenn, did not show up for a court hearing on January 17. Appearing shackled before the judge, Chaney said that Wrenn had advised him not to attend the hearing and that he had tried his best to produce the records that had been requested of him.
so nothing happens to you in the US when you violate a consent decree? there is no offense? they don't put you in jail? is that what you are saying?
The day I see a corporation behind bars is the day they'll start to listen.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-12-19/ex-billionaire-timothy-blixseth-jailed-for-contempt-of-court-1-
they most certainly do put corporate executives in jail for contempt of court
corporations are owned by people, they are responsible for its actions
near zero for a second offense.
what part of "immediate jail for contempt of court" don't you understand? there is no trial here, they just come and lock you away.
How much of that $750,000 fine goes to the people who had to pay $80/day for Internet service because they couldn't use their WiFi hotspot?
I'm going to guess the answer is $0
They can have all of the $80 back after they file a $100 fee
the first fine is a slap on the wrist, but if they continue the next fine will be substantially larger, order of magnitude larger. The FCC might only slap on the wrist for 1st offense, but they get real serious when people don't follow their direct orders.
they signed a settlement agreement in the court room, so further infractions are really "contempt of court" with immediate jail for the offenders
RTFA:
"As part of the settlement, Smart City will cease its Wi-Fi blocking activities"
They signed a court order, if they keep doing it, it's contempt of court this time.
What if you try a more normal load? What if you opened a project in Eclipse or tried to do a build?
normal people open projects in eclipse and run builds?
Oh right, because if I do anything
yes indeed it all revolves around you
If you play games, it might be a good idea to get at least 16GB
How much RAM is necessary if you want to invite your friends over for poker?
This article is a joke. What is a "regular user" and why would slashdot care, when none of us are "regular users" ?
Some of us have lives at home (believe it or not) and some of us don't take our work home with us (believe it or not) and we are actually pretty normal users during off-hours.
Oh yeah, good thing there is no fragmentation or duplication of effort or competing incompatible layers in open source.
None at all.
who is talking about open source in general? Nobody. we are talking about NTP implementations. How much fragmentation is there in NTP implementations? Really? Huh?
Okay, not that I don't love open source, but you're not making a great argument.
duh, straw men don't fight back. you put words in their mouth and you argue with those words. haven't you got the basics of bad arguing down yet?
TCP is great if you want the accuracy of calling someone on the phone and saying "now".
this is totally bizarre statement, tcp streams get backed up, packets get retransmitted, data arrives at the client at a completely indeterminate time.
Who are you going to charge for the "new releases"?
There are actually people out there who want features bad enough, that are willing to pay other people to write them. Generally people do not work for free.
there should be automated testing and if the patch fails it should be sent back
Yeah that one made me laugh pretty good, assuming that all your tests are perfect and any failures are bad patches.