someone compares a harmless two word tweet with actual physical assault (look it up) and I say WTF?
Did the student mean for his tweet to be a joke when he did it? I don't know
This is the old bill o'reilly ploy, it's 100% despicable, is what it is. You pretend you are sitting on the fence and then you trot what "someone else" says and give it credence. Total bullshit sleaze on your part.
Because you have to get significantly out of the norm before you have a significant effect?
really, so there is no significant difference between a thin person travelling with no baggage and and obese passenger travelling with maximum allowed baggage? I would think that the difference is probably a factor of two, at least.
Weight is about performance... How fast can you stop, climb etc which might affect safety... BALANCE though is all about safety. Have an AFT CG and approach a aerodynamic stall and it's going to be a very bad bad day for everybody.
weight is damned well about safety if you can't clear the trees at the end of the runway
because you think people that weigh more than 140 pounds are fat and unhealthy, and it's their own fault?
Get real.
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And not even a very good one, because you are mainly succeeding in playing the victim card.
Maybe you would like to have an argument with the scale? Or perhaps with the spreadsheet that calculates fuel costs? Because they think you should pay more and they really don't give a crap about your BMI
they weigh your bags at the ticket counter, they could put a scale under where you stand at the ticket counter and weigh you and your stuff right there.
Reliable DOCX compatibility. I need accurate WYSIWYG printing. I need printing functionality that doesn't get broken with each update so I don't have to keep going back and forth between the postscript and PDF driver. I need it to be fast. Like WAY fucking faster opening documents. I need it to work reliably. I shouldn't have to think about which word processor or spreadsheet I am using. I can use Word or WordPerfect without much concern, switch to Libre Office and the wheels fall off. Suddenly I'm in IT support mode rather than document creation mode. Envelopes should not make you homicidal! (See printing.) Graphing hasn't been updated for years and looks like ASS. We won;t even bother talking about its behavioral idiosyncrasies. I can go on and on if you like.
The magic is just works versus almost-just-works.
with the exception of your first point, you can do all of that on an apple II with word star or perfect writer.
But of course Office has had functionality updates in that time. LibreOffice has passed where Office was 15 years ago - and still isn't a match for Office.
Can you name me an essential feature in Office that was not present in word star on apple II?
and holy cow batman just about every company makes internal forks of its products for testing new features, they sure don't have every developer checking his science projects into the mainline trunk
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I fail to see why fragmentation is a good thing.
really? usually fragmentation is the result of two parties with irreconcilable differences. would you prefer that they spend time fighting with each other or would you rather let them duke it out in implementation land and see who can make a better mousetrap?
let's look at some fragmentation over the years and see how it worked out:
- Steve Jobs took his developers away with him when he could not reconcile his design decisions with apple. He made his own version of the mac os, called it "next step". eventually apple saw the error in their ways, brought back jobs, and now OSX is next step.
- remember egcs versus gcc? gcc was getting old and stale and stagnant, new developers wanted new features on an expedited timeline and gcc said no. so egcs was forked, new features were implmented and tested and folded back into gcc. all around a good time
- remember node.js versus io.js? again the same deal as egcs versus gcc.
you can argue duplicated effort but in fact these forks allow new ideas to happen where they otherwise would not. can you argue with this?
it was trying to catch up to functionality of a really old Microsoft Office
Microsoft was learning where its customers wanted to use its software tomorrow.
WTF is this bizarre "magic" that microsoft puts in their software that nobody else does? WTF do you actually need in a word processor that wasn't there in 1988?
The point is that developing two separate FOSS office suites means duplication of efforts that could otherwise be spent furthering development on a single FOSS office suite.
Why do we even bother making more than one kind of automobile? we should save engineering effort and all drive exactly the same car, imagine how much better the world would be. Do you see the problem with this mentality?
" means duplication of efforts" no it doesn't mean duplication of effort, because these are open projects and the developers can freely look at the changes in the other versions and port them or not as they see fit.
most people have at least one show stopping feature that Libre Office lacks
Huh? "most people" do normal straightforward word processing, which has been a "solved problem" since the apple II. What are these fancy features needed today that were not present in 1980s word processing systems?
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funny, non computerized systems can be hacked too. hot wiring cars is art old as your grandpa
your grandad got busted at the scene, today it can be done remotely
Nonsense, there is tech that can recover car from armed assailant as he drives away.
oh yes, we should put these things in our cars, they are perfectly safe and will never go off when they are not supposed to
if you actually drive like your life depends on it you don't really need it.
because all of the other drivers on the road are perfect and you don't have to worry about them
Buy any such car, then go in and physically remove the antena connecting the smart computer to the wireless world.
how will you know when you've found and disabled all of the antennas?
So someone takes a swing at me and I say WTF?
someone compares a harmless two word tweet with actual physical assault (look it up) and I say WTF?
Did the student mean for his tweet to be a joke when he did it? I don't know
This is the old bill o'reilly ploy, it's 100% despicable, is what it is. You pretend you are sitting on the fence and then you trot what "someone else" says and give it credence. Total bullshit sleaze on your part.
Because you have to get significantly out of the norm before you have a significant effect?
really, so there is no significant difference between a thin person travelling with no baggage and and obese passenger travelling with maximum allowed baggage? I would think that the difference is probably a factor of two, at least.
Weight is about performance... How fast can you stop, climb etc which might affect safety... BALANCE though is all about safety. Have an AFT CG and approach a aerodynamic stall and it's going to be a very bad bad day for everybody.
weight is damned well about safety if you can't clear the trees at the end of the runway
because you think people that weigh more than 140 pounds are fat and unhealthy, and it's their own fault?
Get real.
STRAW MAN ALERT
And not even a very good one, because you are mainly succeeding in playing the victim card.
Maybe you would like to have an argument with the scale? Or perhaps with the spreadsheet that calculates fuel costs? Because they think you should pay more and they really don't give a crap about your BMI
technically, weight and balance calculations are required before each flight.
Correct, however any airline operating so far in to the safety margin that they need to weigh passengers is, well, really unsafe.
really why bother doing any sort of extra safety at all because we all know that airplanes are always perfect and can operate with no safety margins
How would you take payment?
the same way it's done for overweight baggage, pay the overage on the spot with cash or a credit card
believe it or not, you can warn people in advance about having to pay for things
Because it would be an enormous headache.
they weigh your bags at the ticket counter, they could put a scale under where you stand at the ticket counter and weigh you and your stuff right there.
I need:
Reliable DOCX compatibility.
I need accurate WYSIWYG printing.
I need printing functionality that doesn't get broken with each update so I don't have to keep going back and forth between the postscript and PDF driver.
I need it to be fast. Like WAY fucking faster opening documents.
I need it to work reliably. I shouldn't have to think about which word processor or spreadsheet I am using. I can use Word or WordPerfect without much concern, switch to Libre Office and the wheels fall off. Suddenly I'm in IT support mode rather than document creation mode.
Envelopes should not make you homicidal! (See printing.)
Graphing hasn't been updated for years and looks like ASS. We won;t even bother talking about its behavioral idiosyncrasies.
I can go on and on if you like.
The magic is just works versus almost-just-works.
with the exception of your first point, you can do all of that on an apple II with word star or perfect writer.
who cares what the document says, as long as the font is good
The next chapter of the LibreOffice story must be "Full port to Android". It is pathetic that this has not already happened.
i know, right? Civilization is failing because we don't have full desktop publishing capabilities available while walking down the street.
But of course Office has had functionality updates in that time. LibreOffice has passed where Office was 15 years ago - and still isn't a match for Office.
Can you name me an essential feature in Office that was not present in word star on apple II?
and holy cow batman just about every company makes internal forks of its products for testing new features, they sure don't have every developer checking his science projects into the mainline trunk
I fail to see why fragmentation is a good thing.
really? usually fragmentation is the result of two parties with irreconcilable differences. would you prefer that they spend time fighting with each other or would you rather let them duke it out in implementation land and see who can make a better mousetrap?
let's look at some fragmentation over the years and see how it worked out:
- Steve Jobs took his developers away with him when he could not reconcile his design decisions with apple. He made his own version of the mac os, called it "next step". eventually apple saw the error in their ways, brought back jobs, and now OSX is next step.
- remember egcs versus gcc? gcc was getting old and stale and stagnant, new developers wanted new features on an expedited timeline and gcc said no. so egcs was forked, new features were implmented and tested and folded back into gcc. all around a good time
- remember node.js versus io.js? again the same deal as egcs versus gcc.
you can argue duplicated effort but in fact these forks allow new ideas to happen where they otherwise would not. can you argue with this?
And when the teacher assigns a PowerPoint presentation to be created
fuck me, the world really is coming to an end
Talk to me
there really is no point
Your post is why open software always fails to gain the lead,
holy cow batman, people are changing the world by posting on slashdot
then send thier documents to many others who have no idea that these "unneeded" features are being used.
billy discovers new features in the word processor and wonders why nobody else uses them, doesn't occur to him that they are not really needed
it was trying to catch up to functionality of a really old Microsoft Office
Microsoft was learning where its customers wanted to use its software tomorrow.
WTF is this bizarre "magic" that microsoft puts in their software that nobody else does? WTF do you actually need in a word processor that wasn't there in 1988?
The point is that developing two separate FOSS office suites means duplication of efforts that could otherwise be spent furthering development on a single FOSS office suite.
Why do we even bother making more than one kind of automobile? we should save engineering effort and all drive exactly the same car, imagine how much better the world would be. Do you see the problem with this mentality?
" means duplication of efforts" no it doesn't mean duplication of effort, because these are open projects and the developers can freely look at the changes in the other versions and port them or not as they see fit.
most people have at least one show stopping feature that Libre Office lacks
Huh? "most people" do normal straightforward word processing, which has been a "solved problem" since the apple II. What are these fancy features needed today that were not present in 1980s word processing systems?
do you live downstream of hanford where the waste will end up?