Of course it's Microsoft's fault. If they made the OS so that stupid people were unable to use it, stupid people wouldn't use it and therefore they wouldn't get rootkits on it.:-)
This explains why Linux has few malware, and users.
XP (and IE 6) won't EOL any earlier than 2014. They are just trying to prevent users that complain that their system bricked when they installed an update.
No. The patch TO PREVENT IT (not remove it) that will cause BSODs if installed on infected systems will refuse to install if it determines the system may be compromised by that exploit.
The user may opt not to run MRT (it will ask to continue before running). A corporation may deploy the update, but not MRT. One can't assume that MRT was run before the update. I do believe MRT tries to run before updates are installed.
Your 16 bit apps will still run in XP-mode. If you don't have Pro or ultimate, you can get free IE compatability VHDs You can also use trusty old DOS "ed" in Win7 x64
If Microsoft has a way of detecting the rootkit, they should make it available separately so that people can test their machines before they try to update them. Of course, this is Microsoft we're talking about, so you know they're not interested in what's right unless it's also profitable.
XP Will keep getting security updates until at least 2014. It was rendered obsolete in early 2007. Try getting OSX Tiger updates. It was dropped like a rock seconds after Leopard came out
A very appropriate solution would be to prompt the user
"A root kit has been detected, please visit the following website for more information and a link to a tool to attempt to fix the issue. This update will not be installed until the issue has been resolved."
If I saw that message, I would be shocked and amazed at the appropriate response demonstrated. If that happened, I would say MS went above and beyond to accommodate the customer and the security best practice.
It's scare tactics like that that fake antivirus software uses to get installed. I think the best hope is that MRT gets installed and run during the update cycle.
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So you insist on comparing a less than 4 year old Linux distro to an 8 year old Windows version?
It would balance out the effect of the sea level rising from global warming. Plus lots of hydrogen!
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Unfortunately not. One upside to having a laptop with a PCMCIA card was you could eject and reinsert the card to update the settings.
Do you remember having to reboot just to use $APPLICATION_NAME just because Win9x was so god-damn unstable. "Unstable" Win9x apps which run rock solid under 2000 or newer.
Do you remember having to restart Windows98 just because a webpage contained an image tag pointing to c:\con\con, which caused a critical BSOD error.
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It had a proprietary mouse, but you could only use the mouse with some games (it wasn't good for much else, VGA doesn't really support a windowing environment).
Say what? Vast majority of Win 3.1 machines ran at 640x480x16 colors. PC-GEOS runs at 640x480, Heck even modern OS's (like Win 7) will still run in standard VGA 640x480x4bit mode if it has no inbuilt drivers and can't run at a higher VESA mode. You can also use a mouse in WP5.1, the classic word processor.
Part of the problem is both NTSC & PAL use the same bandwidth, with the tradeoff of framerate (60 vs 50 fields) or line count (480 vs 576). To deliver both would require a 20%increase of bandwidth (7.2Mhz instead of 6Mhz)where as digital TV is much more bandwidth efficient. As well ATSC includes higher definition SD capability. eg: 576 lines at 50 Hz progressive.
I'd just be happy if analog TV signals were progressive, and if CRTs just scanned at a higher frequency. Even if it was higher than the signal, just to remove flicker. It also pains me how many CRTs on PCs run at 60Hz even when they are more capable.
Speaking of "interlaced CRT with a very low refresh rate", how the hell can people with PAL CRT sets stand watching it? They get all excited about higher line count, but you can practically see the image being drawn line by line.
But these light users that would be served by iPhoto and Gimp aren't the ones spending $699 on Photoshop. The parent was talking about Adobe's marketshare in the professional market, not grandma removing redeye.
Part of it is that that's the solutions they are buying. For example, NCR is a very common ATM brand. Look at the specifications of this model:
ncr selfserv22
This is why banks should use Linux. That way it would be impossible to install the same malware on all systems. Because each slightly different model, released on slightly different dates, would have different versions of incompatible libraries
Although I hear diebold does better with ATM's, I can't help but wonder how much effort they put into ATM security versus the voting machine fiasco.
I went to a Bank of America branch here in Eastern NC one day last year, and saw a Windows XP error screen on the ATM. I then saw a Diebold guy coming out of the bank, and asked him about it. He says that the BoA ATMs are now running XP on them.
How safe do you feel knowing that?
A lot of ATMs have been running Windows for years. I remember 10 or so years ago after I finished my transaction the ATM rebooted. On the green monochrome screen was the POST check, followed by a Windows NT splash screen. I've also seen various Windows errors over the years on ATMs. Some were still NT4.0 errors, even recently. A lot of kiosks run Embedded version of Windows. As do cash registers.
I've also seen my fair share of Linux based kiosks sitting with an error, or in an endless reboot cycle, so Windows isn't alone in this regard.
Look at it this way: Would you respect someone who told you the best way to get FireFox running on Linux was to use some sort of Windows emulation layer... Like WINE? no, because FireFox *can* compile for Linux.
Though kludges like CygWin has brought the dependency hell headache over to Windows where multiple cygwin applications try to load different versions of cygwin.dll. Anyways, best of luck. Even though you're going to run into a lot of "It's a trap!"
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Of course it's Microsoft's fault. If they made the OS so that stupid people were unable to use it, stupid people wouldn't use it and therefore they wouldn't get rootkits on it. :-)
This explains why Linux has few malware, and users.
XP (and IE 6) won't EOL any earlier than 2014. They are just trying to prevent users that complain that their system bricked when they installed an update.
No. The patch TO PREVENT IT (not remove it) that will cause BSODs if installed on infected systems will refuse to install if it determines the system may be compromised by that exploit.
The user may opt not to run MRT (it will ask to continue before running). A corporation may deploy the update, but not MRT. One can't assume that MRT was run before the update. I do believe MRT tries to run before updates are installed.
Even though it's pushed through Windows update?
Your 16 bit apps will still run in XP-mode. If you don't have Pro or ultimate, you can get free IE compatability VHDs You can also use trusty old DOS "ed" in Win7 x64
But what if the user declines to run MRT? Should they then just let the update bork the system?
But then you end up stuck with ancient versions of Firefox, Open office, etc. Indeed most new software still works on XP, and many on 2000.
If Microsoft has a way of detecting the rootkit, they should make it available separately so that people can test their machines before they try to update them. Of course, this is Microsoft we're talking about, so you know they're not interested in what's right unless it's also profitable.
http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.aspx
XP Will keep getting security updates until at least 2014. It was rendered obsolete in early 2007. Try getting OSX Tiger updates. It was dropped like a rock seconds after Leopard came out
I have not seen a computer that ships without a recovery DVD that won't beg you to burn off recovery DVDs. But again it's an OEM issue, not Microsoft.
A very appropriate solution would be to prompt the user
"A root kit has been detected, please visit the following website for more information and a link to a tool to attempt to fix the issue. This update will not be installed until the issue has been resolved."
If I saw that message, I would be shocked and amazed at the appropriate response demonstrated. If that happened, I would say MS went above and beyond to accommodate the customer and the security best practice.
It's scare tactics like that that fake antivirus software uses to get installed. I think the best hope is that MRT gets installed and run during the update cycle.
So you insist on comparing a less than 4 year old Linux distro to an 8 year old Windows version?
It would balance out the effect of the sea level rising from global warming. Plus lots of hydrogen!
Unfortunately not. One upside to having a laptop with a PCMCIA card was you could eject and reinsert the card to update the settings.
Do you remember having to reboot just to use $APPLICATION_NAME just because Win9x was so god-damn unstable. "Unstable" Win9x apps which run rock solid under 2000 or newer.
Do you remember having to restart Windows98 just because a webpage contained an image tag pointing to c:\con\con, which caused a critical BSOD error.
It had a proprietary mouse, but you could only use the mouse with some games (it wasn't good for much else, VGA doesn't really support a windowing environment).
Say what? Vast majority of Win 3.1 machines ran at 640x480x16 colors. PC-GEOS runs at 640x480, Heck even modern OS's (like Win 7) will still run in standard VGA 640x480x4bit mode if it has no inbuilt drivers and can't run at a higher VESA mode. You can also use a mouse in WP5.1, the classic word processor.
Part of the problem is both NTSC & PAL use the same bandwidth, with the tradeoff of framerate (60 vs 50 fields) or line count (480 vs 576). To deliver both would require a 20%increase of bandwidth (7.2Mhz instead of 6Mhz)where as digital TV is much more bandwidth efficient. As well ATSC includes higher definition SD capability. eg: 576 lines at 50 Hz progressive.
I'd just be happy if analog TV signals were progressive, and if CRTs just scanned at a higher frequency. Even if it was higher than the signal, just to remove flicker. It also pains me how many CRTs on PCs run at 60Hz even when they are more capable.
Speaking of "interlaced CRT with a very low refresh rate", how the hell can people with PAL CRT sets stand watching it? They get all excited about higher line count, but you can practically see the image being drawn line by line.
But you still use furniture, and paper, and buildings.
But these light users that would be served by iPhoto and Gimp aren't the ones spending $699 on Photoshop. The parent was talking about Adobe's marketshare in the professional market, not grandma removing redeye.
Particularly when combined with iTunes (the store and application)
Part of it is that that's the solutions they are buying. For example, NCR is a very common ATM brand. Look at the specifications of this model: ncr selfserv22
SOFTWARE: Windows® XP Pro
The monochrome NT machine was a Royal.
This is why banks should use Linux. That way it would be impossible to install the same malware on all systems. Because each slightly different model, released on slightly different dates, would have different versions of incompatible libraries
“Why GNU/Linux Viruses are fairly uncommon” from Charlie Harvey
Although I hear diebold does better with ATM's, I can't help but wonder how much effort they put into ATM security versus the voting machine fiasco.
I went to a Bank of America branch here in Eastern NC one day last year, and saw a Windows XP error screen on the ATM. I then saw a Diebold guy coming out of the bank, and asked him about it. He says that the BoA ATMs are now running XP on them. How safe do you feel knowing that?
A lot of ATMs have been running Windows for years. I remember 10 or so years ago after I finished my transaction the ATM rebooted. On the green monochrome screen was the POST check, followed by a Windows NT splash screen. I've also seen various Windows errors over the years on ATMs. Some were still NT4.0 errors, even recently. A lot of kiosks run Embedded version of Windows. As do cash registers.
I've also seen my fair share of Linux based kiosks sitting with an error, or in an endless reboot cycle, so Windows isn't alone in this regard.
Look at it this way: Would you respect someone who told you the best way to get FireFox running on Linux was to use some sort of Windows emulation layer... Like WINE? no, because FireFox *can* compile for Linux.
Except of course the best way to get Firefox running on Linux is to use WINE http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/02/13/0058251
Though kludges like CygWin has brought the dependency hell headache over to Windows where multiple cygwin applications try to load different versions of cygwin.dll. Anyways, best of luck. Even though you're going to run into a lot of "It's a trap!"
iPhones will now be on par with the multitasking ability of Task Swapping in MS-DOS 4.0!
Yeah, just like the numerous regressions I see in the Linux kernel, WINE, Ubuntu releases etc.
Why is this modded offtopic? It's cool and popular to poke fun at Microsoft but heaven forbid you point out Linux, WINE, and Ubuntu have regressions?