I'd guess it's more a translation error than a deliberate push towards a "United States of Europe". For the record, "country" translates to:
État (French) estado (Spanish) Estado (Portugese) stat (Norwegian) stan (Polish) stato (Italian) Staat (German) stat (Romanian) stat (Danish) stáit (Irish) staat (Dutch) ástand (Icelandic)
There are a few that don't follow that "logic" like Hungarian or Finnish (but then again, they are not related to any of the large language families spoken in Europe), but none of the "weird" ones even remotely resembles "country", so my guess is that the original text is in one of the aforementioned languages and whoever translated it simply picked the word that resembled the original word the closest, without understanding the subtle differences between state and country.
I'd predict that you will see a difference between the north, which will more likely want to stick with standard time, and south, who are probably more interested in keeping DST permanently.
The worse thing would be that during winter, people have to drive about in pitch black darkness when going to work. Sunrise in Stockholm is at about 8:30 in Midwinter. With perpetual DST it would be 9:30. Even twilight is something you don't encounter until about 7:30, or 8:30 in perpetual DST. I don't know when schools start in your area, but I'd not feel good sending my kids to school when it's night.
I mean, it's fine for people in Palermo, they have daylight from 7:20 (or 8:20 with perpetual DST), but the further north you get, the less acceptable perpetual DST becomes.
Because the statistics for MMR really favor vaccination.
Chance to contract any of the 3? Near certainty as soon as an infected person only WAS in the vicinity of where you're going. Chance of lasting side effects? About 1 per 1000 infections. Chance of lasting side effects of the vaccine? About 1 per Million vaccinations.
Measles and mumps are more than "minor annoyances". They do have very serious lasting effects if you happen to contract them at a critical time, like when you're less than a year old, pregnant or when your immune system is already compromised. Side effects of Mumps include potential infertility (in males), spontaneous abortion (in pregnant females), encephalitis, brain inflammation (rare, but potentially lethal) and deafness. With measles you're looking at pneumonia (about 6% of cases), encephalitis (0.1% of infections, 20% mortality, 30% lasting brain damage) and a mortality rate of about 1 in 1000 (according to the CDC) or 3 in thousands (according to EU statistics), aside of a few less severe complications, some of which can surface months or even years after the infection.
So yes, I dare say there is a GOOD reason for pushing towards MMR vaccinations. Even if you're not interested in the quarter reports of pharma corporations but only in the well being of your child.
It's fairly easy. If someone who has no qualification to talk about a subject whatsoever says something that contradicts what people who studied it throughout their lifetime agree on, it's very likely WRONG. Have people who know the subject examine the claim but don't follow some quack who pretends to "speak THE TRUTH (tm)" just because he says so.
The right to be wrong is absurd and worthy of mockery. Yes. You think I'm wrong, well, then you might want to tell me where I'm wrong. People can only learn if correct information is presented to them. So present.
And that's the thing that gets my piss to a boil. Essentially, these parents go down the "a dead kid is less hassle than an autistic kid, so let's not take chances" thought train.
How about trying to educate people to be able to tell when they're being fed bullshit? I know, I know, for the longest time our parties benefited big time from an electorate too stupid to tell when they're being lied to, but I guess it's time to end this for the greater good.
What right is being taken away here? The right to be wrong? The right to believe any bullshit no matter how insane? The right to be an utter moron that's easily convinced because he's too stupid to tell when he's being bullshitted?
The point of this story is that people are unable to tell fact from fiction and fabrication. It's not about "wrong think" it's about believing bullshit and not being able to tell when you're fed bullshit.
People lack the ability to identify when they're being lied to. That in turn is mostly due to them having a crappy education level that doesn't even allow them to question what they're told because they have no information to rely on as a gauge to test new information. They have been taught by schools that put more emphasis on believing what an authority tells them, rote learning that leaves you completely unable to learn anything but what you are force fed and a system that rewards conformity rather than questioning.
So when they start "questioning", it usually takes the form of "The elites/illuminati/big pharma/boogeyman-du-jour have told me A, so I will instead blindly believe B instead because B must be true since it is the opposite of what (insert boogeyman here) says".
Ask some experts from the GDR. With today's technology, and provided you don't have a problem to shoot a few anti-vaxxers, that should prove near perfect.
Of course they are. That doesn't make the study a forgery, though.
Even though I'm not that sure that there's more money in preventing diseases than there is in curing them. I mean, are you going to pay 1000 bucks for a vaccination?
How about a cure for the disease that might kill you?
I know what I'd more easily be convinced to pay a grand for.
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I'd guess it's more a translation error than a deliberate push towards a "United States of Europe". For the record, "country" translates to:
État (French)
estado (Spanish)
Estado (Portugese)
stat (Norwegian)
stan (Polish)
stato (Italian)
Staat (German)
stat (Romanian)
stat (Danish)
stáit (Irish)
staat (Dutch)
ástand (Icelandic)
There are a few that don't follow that "logic" like Hungarian or Finnish (but then again, they are not related to any of the large language families spoken in Europe), but none of the "weird" ones even remotely resembles "country", so my guess is that the original text is in one of the aforementioned languages and whoever translated it simply picked the word that resembled the original word the closest, without understanding the subtle differences between state and country.
I'd predict that you will see a difference between the north, which will more likely want to stick with standard time, and south, who are probably more interested in keeping DST permanently.
Well, to be fair, we would sync with the rest of the world. A different part of the world every year, sure, but still.
I can't talk about others, but I wouldn't want to send my kids to school in darkness.
You're happy with sending your kids to school in darkness?
The worse thing would be that during winter, people have to drive about in pitch black darkness when going to work. Sunrise in Stockholm is at about 8:30 in Midwinter. With perpetual DST it would be 9:30. Even twilight is something you don't encounter until about 7:30, or 8:30 in perpetual DST. I don't know when schools start in your area, but I'd not feel good sending my kids to school when it's night.
I mean, it's fine for people in Palermo, they have daylight from 7:20 (or 8:20 with perpetual DST), but the further north you get, the less acceptable perpetual DST becomes.
Peanuts compared to the 17 Millions that wanted out.
I know. That's why yours is one of the few responses I get when correcting their bullshit.
And, like this time, it's someone who already knows that they're talking out of a very unsavory orifice.
Because the statistics for MMR really favor vaccination.
Chance to contract any of the 3? Near certainty as soon as an infected person only WAS in the vicinity of where you're going.
Chance of lasting side effects? About 1 per 1000 infections.
Chance of lasting side effects of the vaccine? About 1 per Million vaccinations.
Measles and mumps are more than "minor annoyances". They do have very serious lasting effects if you happen to contract them at a critical time, like when you're less than a year old, pregnant or when your immune system is already compromised. Side effects of Mumps include potential infertility (in males), spontaneous abortion (in pregnant females), encephalitis, brain inflammation (rare, but potentially lethal) and deafness. With measles you're looking at pneumonia (about 6% of cases), encephalitis (0.1% of infections, 20% mortality, 30% lasting brain damage) and a mortality rate of about 1 in 1000 (according to the CDC) or 3 in thousands (according to EU statistics), aside of a few less severe complications, some of which can surface months or even years after the infection.
So yes, I dare say there is a GOOD reason for pushing towards MMR vaccinations. Even if you're not interested in the quarter reports of pharma corporations but only in the well being of your child.
It's fairly easy. If someone who has no qualification to talk about a subject whatsoever says something that contradicts what people who studied it throughout their lifetime agree on, it's very likely WRONG. Have people who know the subject examine the claim but don't follow some quack who pretends to "speak THE TRUTH (tm)" just because he says so.
If you can show me how me looking at porn can have a negative impact on my children, we'll continue this conversation.
The right to be wrong is absurd and worthy of mockery. Yes. You think I'm wrong, well, then you might want to tell me where I'm wrong. People can only learn if correct information is presented to them. So present.
And that's the thing that gets my piss to a boil. Essentially, these parents go down the "a dead kid is less hassle than an autistic kid, so let's not take chances" thought train.
From, not by.
How about trying to educate people to be able to tell when they're being fed bullshit? I know, I know, for the longest time our parties benefited big time from an electorate too stupid to tell when they're being lied to, but I guess it's time to end this for the greater good.
Because the idiots then seek medical aid for preventable diseases and I get to foot the bill.
What right is being taken away here? The right to be wrong? The right to believe any bullshit no matter how insane? The right to be an utter moron that's easily convinced because he's too stupid to tell when he's being bullshitted?
The point of this story is that people are unable to tell fact from fiction and fabrication. It's not about "wrong think" it's about believing bullshit and not being able to tell when you're fed bullshit.
People lack the ability to identify when they're being lied to. That in turn is mostly due to them having a crappy education level that doesn't even allow them to question what they're told because they have no information to rely on as a gauge to test new information. They have been taught by schools that put more emphasis on believing what an authority tells them, rote learning that leaves you completely unable to learn anything but what you are force fed and a system that rewards conformity rather than questioning.
So when they start "questioning", it usually takes the form of "The elites/illuminati/big pharma/boogeyman-du-jour have told me A, so I will instead blindly believe B instead because B must be true since it is the opposite of what (insert boogeyman here) says".
Please stay 50 feet downwind from me.
So do I.
Do you know what no government restriction and oversight is called? Anarchy.
And to think that the rest of the US is even worse!
Ask some experts from the GDR. With today's technology, and provided you don't have a problem to shoot a few anti-vaxxers, that should prove near perfect.
A few cracks and splinters flaking off don't matter for the purpose I have in mind. Actually, they might work in favor of the intended application.
So ... not killing Pauly endangers America, I did get that right?
Of course they are. That doesn't make the study a forgery, though.
Even though I'm not that sure that there's more money in preventing diseases than there is in curing them. I mean, are you going to pay 1000 bucks for a vaccination?
How about a cure for the disease that might kill you?
I know what I'd more easily be convinced to pay a grand for.