So you wouldn't want half a million because you'd have to pay 200k and instead are happy with 50k because that way you can get away with only paying 20k?
That's like government administrators on strike. Question for 100: How do you notice it?
Quite frankly, a monkey could write the garbage we get fed these days. "Scripted reality", yeah, right, what kind of drugs do you have to be on to consider this to be in any way even remotely close to "reality"? In between we got court TV and other garbage that needs zero writer or talent by the actors, sorry, "genuine people presenting real cases".
Hey, how about a new format? Akin to American Idol, how about American Writer? All the various fanfic writers get to send in their scripts and we get to cringe at their Mary Sue stories for a change instead of the talentless bawling of teenagers who were told by mommy and daddy that they can really sing.
Try comparing your average "socialist" European country with the US and take a look at various social aspects. I'm not even talking about soft mushy things like "quality of life", just look at the expense for things like social security, internal security (i.e. police), along with factors like crime statistics, suicide rates and educational standard.
Certainly, but by the time we finally get to report it (because, face it, if you really have something cool you wait for the next big conference to let the bomb go off, who gives a shit about publishing something on his homepage when Black Hat is in 3 weeks?) thousands have already bought the insecure piece of junk and the damage is done.
No, but it's a solution to the problem they cause.
People are lazy bastards. And they will take the way of least resistance. Sadly, the least resistance may well go through your chest to reach for your money. I'd rather pay them to stay on the couch and waste their life on afternoon talk shows than pay them at gunpoint.
Because in the end that's the only choices you have. People don't simply stay calm and die when they notice that they have no home, no food and no perspective. All it takes for a riot is some asshole shouting "follow me!"
Problem is that the birds don't go away, and what angry, hungry birds with nowhere to go and nothing to lose can do... well, watch the old Hitchcock movie.
If the rich didn't get more ways to weasel out of paying their due, we wouldn't need the pittance they pay as charity. We'd have the money to provide for our people ourselves.
Fuck you Paul Allen. The only reason you could create that "charity" is because you evaded paying what you owe.
Take a look at Europe. People who have something to lose are WAY less likely to break the law for petty shit.
I have no home, no money, no perspective. You have maybe 20 bucks in your pocket, and I will kill you to get them. Either I have 20 bucks or at least I have a place to stay for the foreseeable future.
I have a home, maybe some money from social services, I don't give a shit about the 20 bucks in your pocket. Sure, I'd like them, but then I'd go to prison. And I already have a warm place and food, and out here I also got freedom to go wherever I want to.
It's a matter of magnitude. A goon with a sack of license plates can ruin one life at a time. A wall street locust with computer support can ruin many, many thousands per second.
I give that less than a day before a company emerges that offers letterbox company like re-shipping services. Get an address in Bangladesh where the whole "apartment" consists of a database entry where to actually send it.
How should the consumer verify this? It's not like there is a button they could push to verify the security of the device. Hell, until the hack comes alone, more often than not even the manufacturer doesn't know it.
Few here are probably old enough to actually know how those stickers helped.
Of course the stickers themselves did little. But the requirements to be allowed to glue those stickers to your gear are as described on the sticker. And before the stickers, electric gadgets interfering with each other was a big deal. Even well after WW2 high frequency interference from electric tools was still a big issue. Today, with electric appliances working on FAR lower voltages and using FAR less electricity, along with better parts that create less noise, this problem doesn't really apply anymore, and the FCC sticker is pretty much obsolete, because pretty much any and every power tool will be able to pass.
It wasn't always that way. And people did actually bother to check whether something had that sticker after getting burned (not necessarily only figuratively so) by electronic devices of a lower quality standard that didn't earn that FCC badge.
Understand that this was a very different time than today. When back then someone hacked you, it was for shits 'n giggles. You did it to show off, or you needed a few MB of space online so you created a backdoor to a server where you and a friend could move some data to and from. The damage was negligible. What we did was mostly repurposing resources for our own little benefit.
What you're dealing with today is criminal organizations aiming for money. To draw a parallel, what we did was going out in our little fishing boat and catching a fish because we were hungry. What's going on today is fleets of trawlers stripmining the seas because they want to sell the fish worldwide.
The idea behind the IoT isn't bad. The execution is horrible.
The idea that you can use the internet as a medium to access parts of your home isn't that bad an idea. That the whole shit is done by corporations that only care about their bottom line and offer your gimmicky toys that are security nightmares is the horrible execution thereof.
With the difference that the grandpa can flawlessly identify those that pose a threat. Because the IoT devices that get bricked that way are exactly those that would get taken over by a botnet. If they can't be taken over by botnets, the brickerbot cannot affect them either.
Vigilantes rise where the law is insufficiently able or completely unable or, worse, unwilling to deal with criminals that affect the population. There, and only there, you will find vigilantism.
While I generally agree, I cannot second the idea that it should be legal to break into computers that are insufficiently secured. That would make the internet an even worse place than it already is.
What we need is something like the famous FCC part 15 sticker rules. You know the ones, you can find it on pretty much any electronic device: (1) This device may not cause harmful interference, and (2) this device must accept any interference received, including interference that may cause undesired operation.
Well, right now we do have the very real problem that old ink contains acids that destroy the paper instead, so which one is worse? In the end, information gets lost.
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So you wouldn't want half a million because you'd have to pay 200k and instead are happy with 50k because that way you can get away with only paying 20k?
I ... don't know if I can follow your logic.
I didn't say to let every kind of garbage cross the border, I said you should use their model. Lock the borders, shoot anyone trying to get in.
That's like government administrators on strike. Question for 100: How do you notice it?
Quite frankly, a monkey could write the garbage we get fed these days. "Scripted reality", yeah, right, what kind of drugs do you have to be on to consider this to be in any way even remotely close to "reality"? In between we got court TV and other garbage that needs zero writer or talent by the actors, sorry, "genuine people presenting real cases".
Hey, how about a new format? Akin to American Idol, how about American Writer? All the various fanfic writers get to send in their scripts and we get to cringe at their Mary Sue stories for a change instead of the talentless bawling of teenagers who were told by mommy and daddy that they can really sing.
Try comparing your average "socialist" European country with the US and take a look at various social aspects. I'm not even talking about soft mushy things like "quality of life", just look at the expense for things like social security, internal security (i.e. police), along with factors like crime statistics, suicide rates and educational standard.
Certainly, but by the time we finally get to report it (because, face it, if you really have something cool you wait for the next big conference to let the bomb go off, who gives a shit about publishing something on his homepage when Black Hat is in 3 weeks?) thousands have already bought the insecure piece of junk and the damage is done.
No, but it's a solution to the problem they cause.
People are lazy bastards. And they will take the way of least resistance. Sadly, the least resistance may well go through your chest to reach for your money. I'd rather pay them to stay on the couch and waste their life on afternoon talk shows than pay them at gunpoint.
Because in the end that's the only choices you have. People don't simply stay calm and die when they notice that they have no home, no food and no perspective. All it takes for a riot is some asshole shouting "follow me!"
Problem is that the birds don't go away, and what angry, hungry birds with nowhere to go and nothing to lose can do ... well, watch the old Hitchcock movie.
If the rich didn't get more ways to weasel out of paying their due, we wouldn't need the pittance they pay as charity. We'd have the money to provide for our people ourselves.
Fuck you Paul Allen. The only reason you could create that "charity" is because you evaded paying what you owe.
Take a look at Europe. People who have something to lose are WAY less likely to break the law for petty shit.
I have no home, no money, no perspective. You have maybe 20 bucks in your pocket, and I will kill you to get them. Either I have 20 bucks or at least I have a place to stay for the foreseeable future.
I have a home, maybe some money from social services, I don't give a shit about the 20 bucks in your pocket. Sure, I'd like them, but then I'd go to prison. And I already have a warm place and food, and out here I also got freedom to go wherever I want to.
It's a matter of magnitude. A goon with a sack of license plates can ruin one life at a time. A wall street locust with computer support can ruin many, many thousands per second.
Yes, yes, "micro evolution".
Guess what? "macro evolution" (aka "evolution") is just what they dubbed micro evolution plus lots and lots of time.
Unfortunately we security researchers don't get preview demos of those things. We buy them just the same way you do.
I give that less than a day before a company emerges that offers letterbox company like re-shipping services. Get an address in Bangladesh where the whole "apartment" consists of a database entry where to actually send it.
Criminal neglect is still criminal.
How should the consumer verify this? It's not like there is a button they could push to verify the security of the device. Hell, until the hack comes alone, more often than not even the manufacturer doesn't know it.
Yet still when I enter your home unasked it's trespassing, even with your door wide open.
Few here are probably old enough to actually know how those stickers helped.
Of course the stickers themselves did little. But the requirements to be allowed to glue those stickers to your gear are as described on the sticker. And before the stickers, electric gadgets interfering with each other was a big deal. Even well after WW2 high frequency interference from electric tools was still a big issue. Today, with electric appliances working on FAR lower voltages and using FAR less electricity, along with better parts that create less noise, this problem doesn't really apply anymore, and the FCC sticker is pretty much obsolete, because pretty much any and every power tool will be able to pass.
It wasn't always that way. And people did actually bother to check whether something had that sticker after getting burned (not necessarily only figuratively so) by electronic devices of a lower quality standard that didn't earn that FCC badge.
Understand that this was a very different time than today. When back then someone hacked you, it was for shits 'n giggles. You did it to show off, or you needed a few MB of space online so you created a backdoor to a server where you and a friend could move some data to and from. The damage was negligible. What we did was mostly repurposing resources for our own little benefit.
What you're dealing with today is criminal organizations aiming for money. To draw a parallel, what we did was going out in our little fishing boat and catching a fish because we were hungry. What's going on today is fleets of trawlers stripmining the seas because they want to sell the fish worldwide.
The idea behind the IoT isn't bad. The execution is horrible.
The idea that you can use the internet as a medium to access parts of your home isn't that bad an idea. That the whole shit is done by corporations that only care about their bottom line and offer your gimmicky toys that are security nightmares is the horrible execution thereof.
With the difference that the grandpa can flawlessly identify those that pose a threat. Because the IoT devices that get bricked that way are exactly those that would get taken over by a botnet. If they can't be taken over by botnets, the brickerbot cannot affect them either.
Vigilantes rise where the law is insufficiently able or completely unable or, worse, unwilling to deal with criminals that affect the population. There, and only there, you will find vigilantism.
If you're stupid enough to buy broken devices... at least consumer protection laws lets you return the crap.
While I generally agree, I cannot second the idea that it should be legal to break into computers that are insufficiently secured. That would make the internet an even worse place than it already is.
What we need is something like the famous FCC part 15 sticker rules. You know the ones, you can find it on pretty much any electronic device:
(1) This device may not cause harmful interference, and
(2) this device must accept any interference received, including interference that may cause undesired operation.
We need something like this for IoT devices.
Well, right now we do have the very real problem that old ink contains acids that destroy the paper instead, so which one is worse? In the end, information gets lost.
Ok, what else could we use to hold large amounts of carbon mass?
(please refrain from making tasteless 'your mom' jokes here)