Isn't this a violation of the 4th Amendment? Don't they have to give you probable cause - no matter how bogus it is? (Disclosure: I'm a middle class white guy and have never had to deal with profiling of any sort. But I suppose I've heard stories of where people just accept it and deal with it.)
The average police department is very limited in their budget for shooting. Department to department some are lucky to hit the range every six months and then only 50 shots or so. Compared to an average gun owner who goes two-three times a month, marksmanship could be called into question.
This fire department and town DID that. Then they realized most people were not paying the post fire response bill. Fire departments should not be bill collectors.
Way to make an overarching statement and broad generalizations. More often than not, when I go "hunting" it typically ends up really being a hike in nature where I happen to have a firearm or bow. Hunters don't go out to shoot guns and kill things; they also experience nature, provide food for their families and fund a large portion of state lands, BLM, BMA, and other areas that non-hunters are able to enjoy free of charge. These areas would not be available to the public were it not for hunters and the private land-owners opening up their land for public use.
I would venture a guess that the ratio of vehicle injuries to vehicles in the US is larger than gun injuries to guns in the US. I would think it many other statistics could be found say for swimming pools, and other items.
http://www.car-accidents.com/pages/fatal-accident-statistics.html This contains some vehicle fatal statistics. Give me some time, I'll see what I can pull together.
Never the less, it's a given that there are more vehicle deaths per year than firearm related deaths, but obviously ownership ratios are not the same. But I would also argue that the number of "gun-related deaths" would include suicide, self-defense shootings, etc.
The CDC is tasked with tracking gun deaths independently from the FBI’s annual crime reports. The CDC’s most recent report does confirm 31,000 gun deaths, however, the FBI’s annual crime report of the same year only showed 17,000 murders and non-negligent manslaughters. Upon deeper exam, of the 31,000 deaths, 60% were suicides and 15% were accidents or “clean” shootings. Only 25% of the deaths are non justified point to point killings. That 25% represents less than half of the murders in the nation.
Fun Fact: according to the FBI, the #1 weapon used in violent crimes is the baseball bat.
Hey now, the wiley and cunning Wild Barn is a mysterious and elusive creature. Sure you see all the tame and pacified one's in peoples yards and fields - but to catch a sighting of a Wild Barn. It's truly something to behold.
Citation needed on your statistic. I'm curious because the areas where I grew up and where I reside currently gun ownership is a large portion of the population. But then again, when I lived in a big city (New Orleans is small in comparison to the northeast and west coast, obviously). Obviously gun ownership will be less in large cities as there just isn't the need for them other than the potential for self defense.
Me personally? I own handguns and long guns. I do not have a CCL (Concealed Carry) but I intend to get one likely, though I rarely see the need or desire to carry.
I'm meta-hugging both you and AC right now, it's frustrating to be wrapped up in this "gun-nut" tag. There's absolutely nothing wrong heading to the range to blow off steam, owning and maintaining a firearm for self defense, or even hunting. Gun owners aren't deranged maniacs, Hunters are not cold-blooded killers out for blood and death. Every animal I've hunted has been humanely harvested and provided food for my family.
You do realize that slavery was supported and allowed in the North during the Civil War right? Obviously not as much as it was in the South, but there were states north of the Mason-Dixon line that allowed slavery even during the Civil War. Not to Nitpick. Americans killed each other. And for the final thing that will likely get me labled as a troll, but Slavery was not the only issue that caused the Civil War.
I am by no way, means, shape, or form condoning slavery.
Typically, I've seen the 22-250 used for Prarie Dogs, Gophers and the like where your goal is not to pick up carcasses: That's what the coyotes are for.
He's not from Louisiana, so he doesn't know. When I was back home Jefferson parish used to pay $5 a tail from Nutria. You may be thinking of Jefferson Parish Police, but it wouldn't suprise me if NOPD does the same. I would argue the Nutria has a more devestating effect on Louisiana and the marshes than the NYC "Mega"-rat does on NYC.
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I'm right there with you. I wasn't trying to argue to the contrary.
Isn't this a violation of the 4th Amendment? Don't they have to give you probable cause - no matter how bogus it is? (Disclosure: I'm a middle class white guy and have never had to deal with profiling of any sort. But I suppose I've heard stories of where people just accept it and deal with it.)
And the highspeed chase continues...
NRA magazines have a section called "The Armed Citizen" every month that talks about these situations. http://www.nraila.org/armedcitizen/
Louisiana is the same way.
The average police department is very limited in their budget for shooting. Department to department some are lucky to hit the range every six months and then only 50 shots or so. Compared to an average gun owner who goes two-three times a month, marksmanship could be called into question.
They live outside of the city limits, they didn't not pay taxes in that city/county.
This fire department and town DID that. Then they realized most people were not paying the post fire response bill. Fire departments should not be bill collectors.
That sounds reasonable to me, if they have the authority to do it.
Way to make an overarching statement and broad generalizations. More often than not, when I go "hunting" it typically ends up really being a hike in nature where I happen to have a firearm or bow. Hunters don't go out to shoot guns and kill things; they also experience nature, provide food for their families and fund a large portion of state lands, BLM, BMA, and other areas that non-hunters are able to enjoy free of charge. These areas would not be available to the public were it not for hunters and the private land-owners opening up their land for public use.
http://fwp.mt.gov/hunting/hunterAccess/privateLand/blockman/
http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en.html
Hunting for food is not allowed allowed in America? That's funny, the venison, deer, elk, and antelope in my freezer beg to differ...
Similar, but the Wild Gazebo is like the Dodo bird. They kind of stand around and wait for the Europeans to come, awaiting extinction.
http://www.car-accidents.com/pages/fatal-accident-statistics.html This contains some vehicle fatal statistics. Give me some time, I'll see what I can pull together.
Never the less, it's a given that there are more vehicle deaths per year than firearm related deaths, but obviously ownership ratios are not the same. But I would also argue that the number of "gun-related deaths" would include suicide, self-defense shootings, etc.
One good discussion I have found can be found at: http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/powder-keg/37726-gun-deaths-vs-vehicle-deaths.html
Motor Vehicle Deaths: http://www.childtrendsdatabank.org/pdf/77_PDF.pdf
From BigV's post on Gun and Game:
The CDC is tasked with tracking gun deaths independently from the FBI’s annual crime reports. The CDC’s most recent report does confirm 31,000 gun deaths, however, the FBI’s annual crime report of the same year only showed 17,000 murders and non-negligent manslaughters. Upon deeper exam, of the 31,000 deaths, 60% were suicides and 15% were accidents or “clean” shootings. Only 25% of the deaths are non justified point to point killings. That 25% represents less than half of the murders in the nation.
Fun Fact: according to the FBI, the #1 weapon used in violent crimes is the baseball bat.
Searching around the DoJ:Statistics Webpage could bring up more: http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=938
The information is out there, are people willing to listen?
Hey now, the wiley and cunning Wild Barn is a mysterious and elusive creature. Sure you see all the tame and pacified one's in peoples yards and fields - but to catch a sighting of a Wild Barn. It's truly something to behold.
Citation needed on your statistic. I'm curious because the areas where I grew up and where I reside currently gun ownership is a large portion of the population. But then again, when I lived in a big city (New Orleans is small in comparison to the northeast and west coast, obviously). Obviously gun ownership will be less in large cities as there just isn't the need for them other than the potential for self defense.
Me personally? I own handguns and long guns. I do not have a CCL (Concealed Carry) but I intend to get one likely, though I rarely see the need or desire to carry.
I'm meta-hugging both you and AC right now, it's frustrating to be wrapped up in this "gun-nut" tag. There's absolutely nothing wrong heading to the range to blow off steam, owning and maintaining a firearm for self defense, or even hunting. Gun owners aren't deranged maniacs, Hunters are not cold-blooded killers out for blood and death. Every animal I've hunted has been humanely harvested and provided food for my family.
You do realize that slavery was supported and allowed in the North during the Civil War right? Obviously not as much as it was in the South, but there were states north of the Mason-Dixon line that allowed slavery even during the Civil War. Not to Nitpick. Americans killed each other. And for the final thing that will likely get me labled as a troll, but Slavery was not the only issue that caused the Civil War.
I am by no way, means, shape, or form condoning slavery.
Typically, I've seen the 22-250 used for Prarie Dogs, Gophers and the like where your goal is not to pick up carcasses: That's what the coyotes are for.
Bleh, the 22-250 is necked down to a .224. I still stand by my lathe comment.
It's harder than the 22-250. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22-250_Remington But I'm sure you could pull it off with a nice lathe.
I'm a big fan of a 12ga. Might be a bit of overkill, but it's always handy and it gets the job done.
He's not from Louisiana, so he doesn't know. When I was back home Jefferson parish used to pay $5 a tail from Nutria. You may be thinking of Jefferson Parish Police, but it wouldn't suprise me if NOPD does the same. I would argue the Nutria has a more devestating effect on Louisiana and the marshes than the NYC "Mega"-rat does on NYC.
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