Put up posters in it's intended path with banned URLs from the Australian web filter list.... Oh wait, that's illegal
Put up posters in it's intended path with instructions on how to spoof a custom ip address with your bittorrent downloader (eg www.acma.gov.au 165.191.2.20).
I'll have to look up the UN agreement. Good point. Apparently international treaties take precedence over our constitution. eg. Cannabis criminalization not being subject to the usual conditions of "enforceable/workable" law and "innocence until proven guilty" (reversal of onus), and "double jeopardy (get convicted once, punished many times/forever). From memory "free speech" requires the ability to listen and read unencumbered....
Well, officially we're bloody British. But even though we produced the first feature length movie it appears our current government sucks Hollywood dick. In a race to sell off our (unimproved) resources (uranium, iron ore and coal) it's a toss-up/off between America and China. Though I'll concede that it may be that countries are but arbitrary boundaries imposed by robber states - and that the New World Order (same as the old) has no borders... (damn I need a coffee)
Spent the morning at Parliament House - may have skewed my perspectives....;-p
We have a "monarchaic democracy". Big difference. If a the Queens Representative wants to remove a majority elected government he/she can/will/did. Er - Gough Whitlam ring any bells all you non-American-centric people??
And if the majority of people who can vote in a "democracy" don't - is it still a democracy??
Using ISP's to check traffic is kind of like stopping people on the road and checking their identification papers
Poor analogy - the departments that do that are taxpayer funded. That would be the RTA or AFP (or the State Police).
Our constitution should be honoured or amended. Period.
ISPs are not the investigative arm of the law, nor are they part of the judicial system. IINet did the right thing forwarding *IAA requests to the AFP. The AFP did the right thing by doing nothing - the have neither the time nor the funds to track downloaders - and they have a responsibility to investigate crimes that will result in a successful prosecution.
Stay the fuck out of my briefcase for sure, but don't bill me for the search - this isn't Brasil.
We have NO constitutional right to privacy (or free speech). We have a "right" to privacy through common law (a mans' home is his castle) except when over-ruled by legislation.
If the law sucks - change it.
One of the reasons this country is so fucked up is because groups use there collective power to empower politicians to make crap legislation
Not voting is voting - it's just voting for fascists
Voting for a party who can win a seat != setting the agenda for the next election...
Then perhaps "typical" is relative. I support Linux boxes for a living (and we support other OSs'). These days I get a lot of people who are relatively new to computers (been "using Windows since XP) who are installing and using Ubuntu (not my favourite distro). Most of them have little trouble getting basic functionality - they break it when they fiddle - ditto with Windows. But - it's not only a lot easier now than it was a couple of years ago (as you stated) and basic install is much faster than Windows on the same hardware, and it includes real applications. Building the equivalent under Windows takes much, much longer and requires many reboots
My apologies if my post upset you. But my criticism of part of what you wrote - that which I quoted, stands.
Mother. I said mother. Perhaps your emotional investment in your opinion over-rode your ability to read and interpret correctly... or is it just that reading all them words make your lips sore?
Linux is hard... a bit of a broad statement, maybe?
But, but,
No she didn't have to install anything. Period. That's the point. She wouldn't know Linux from Windows from Mac. It just works.
Read my first post - I'm not championing *any* OS. Horses for courses etc.
My point is that any OS/distro/flavour can be easy. Easy is relative to the situation and the user.
Though, I do have a Thinkpad 380D running a stable modern GUI and a full suite of modern apps that runs at a usable speed and is secure enough for general internet use. Was it easy to install? Relatively. But then I've installed OSs' onto thousands of machines. And in this case only one or two OSs' are capable of doing those things.
Most of my system builds are not completely straight forward - some frustatingly so (currently onto ARM machines) - but I don't go smashing the keyboard. I just try and learn from the experience, and provide useful feedback to the developers and support to other users.
"Free speech" requires rights - it's an American term, derived from a Bill of Rights (correct me if I'm wrong). Whereas here, in Australia, which is a "monarchiac democracy", we have NO Bill of Rights. Further, our Constitution only grants us "the right to free trade between states" - which is arguably not the case.
What are you saying? He doesn't control any votes? Take a wander around Parliament House between sessions - try the restaurant. Listen to how many members are trying to guess which move will get him on side....
Being an idiot doesn't disqualify him from influence - quite the reverse. Logic is an ineffective argument with him.
Clearly, you don't know our history. Batman "discovered" Victoria (while the French were trying to find water in Westernport). Bought it from the locals for beads and mirrors.
Bit like Manhattan really. The natives got the better end of the deal.
Yeah, I know how could he discover an occupied land? Go figure - didn't Christopher Columbus discover America - oh wait, was it Eric The Red, no, um, wasn't it already occupied
Back on thread - In Canberra today....
Volante and CSG onsite techs at Parliament House and Group Eight sites are flat out dealing with complaints about lack of access to youtube, Google Earth, youporn....;-p
Except in real life the Linux install takes half the time, doesn't require umpteen reboots - and blow me, when your done it's configured secure by default and all the applications you need are already installed
Love your work, keep it up. Time I bought a new boat - kingfish are running. Think I'll name the new one "Windows 7".
You probably *think* "Where do you want to be tomorrow" is, uh, installing Office, etc, etc, etc, then next week installing updates, antivirus.
All you have to do is open up a terminal window and enter these twelve 12 cryptic commands
My mother (in her eighties) bought a netbook with Linux pre-installed for Xmas. She's never used a computer before. She's been emailing me since New Years (stop it mum - one email a day is heaps). Command-line? She doesn't know what a terminal window is... Like "Ubuntu" is the end all and be all of Linux. Like if the install doesn't support your video card out of the box you can't just choose a vga install option.
If Linux was as hard as you make out, uh, duh - google, the net, and this site would never have come into existence
Typical Linux install for average desktop user -- (1) install on machine, (2) boot to gui in wrong resolution or sometimes get kicked to command line, (3) spend time fixing monitor detection, video drivers, etc., perhaps involving recompiling kernel if you're unlucky, (4) hopefully get to reasonably working gui, (5) start trying to get other hardware working, (6) after some basic troubleshooting fails, spend hours searching in linux forums for someone with a similar configuration, (7) try out 2 or 3 solutions to the bugs you're encountering until you get the hardware to work for every hardware item that doesn't work, (8) even after everything seems to work, deal with intermittent sound problems, codec issues when playing various media types, problems with plugins to view the most common internet sites, etc., and (9) eventually give up after a weekend with a system that has about 75% functionality of what the average desktop user wants (browsing, email, basic multimedia playing, etc.).
I suppose you think you are cool 'cause you just bought a body shirt to match your safari suit - and you've got one of those new colour televison sets
Put breadcrumbs on the Enter key and any chicken can install most versions of Windows, OSX, and Linux. Also most humans. Some however think smacking the keyboard makes things work better - they also repeatedly hit lift and traffic light buttons (they're called morons).
No offense meant to morons - we all know we can't offend anyone. And "good Samaritan" is an insult (do-gooder). Hey everyone stay back for two years in schools so the lazy ones don't feel left behind - oh wait - that's not fair for pinheads - better pass them anyway.
Duh - no wonder the mentally challenged tend to champion the "evolution is a lie" campaign.
Slashdot Mirror
IBM PS/2 (you know, mouse, floppy disk, vga)
Record players
Brooms
Dishwashers on a stick
Incandescent light bulbs
Cars that only accelerate when you press the accelerator down
Zune media players....
Put up posters in it's intended path with instructions on how to spoof a custom ip address with your bittorrent downloader (eg www.acma.gov.au 165.191.2.20).
I'll have to look up the UN agreement. Good point. Apparently international treaties take precedence over our constitution. eg. Cannabis criminalization not being subject to the usual conditions of "enforceable/workable" law and "innocence until proven guilty" (reversal of onus), and "double jeopardy (get convicted once, punished many times/forever). From memory "free speech" requires the ability to listen and read unencumbered....
Spent the morning at Parliament House - may have skewed my perspectives.... ;-p
We have a "monarchaic democracy". Big difference. If a the Queens Representative wants to remove a majority elected government he/she can/will/did. Er - Gough Whitlam ring any bells all you non-American-centric people??
And if the majority of people who can vote in a "democracy" don't - is it still a democracy??
Some people smoke pot and are morons. Some people are just morons. Like you.
Using ISP's to check traffic is kind of like stopping people on the road and checking their identification papers
Poor analogy - the departments that do that are taxpayer funded. That would be the RTA or AFP (or the State Police).
Our constitution should be honoured or amended. Period.
ISPs are not the investigative arm of the law, nor are they part of the judicial system. IINet did the right thing forwarding *IAA requests to the AFP. The AFP did the right thing by doing nothing - the have neither the time nor the funds to track downloaders - and they have a responsibility to investigate crimes that will result in a successful prosecution.
Stay the fuck out of my briefcase for sure, but don't bill me for the search - this isn't Brasil.
We have NO constitutional right to privacy (or free speech). We have a "right" to privacy through common law (a mans' home is his castle) except when over-ruled by legislation.
If the law sucks - change it.
One of the reasons this country is so fucked up is because groups use there collective power to empower politicians to make crap legislation
Not voting is voting - it's just voting for fascists
Voting for a party who can win a seat != setting the agenda for the next election...
Just saying
My apologies if my post upset you. But my criticism of part of what you wrote - that which I quoted, stands.
Thanks for the feedback.
Don't mention it. My pleasure.
Really.
demonoid-penguin@wonderland.mil:~$ uname -r 2.6.32-trunk-686
Linux is hard... a bit of a broad statement, maybe?
But, but,
No she didn't have to install anything. Period. That's the point. She wouldn't know Linux from Windows from Mac. It just works.
Read my first post - I'm not championing *any* OS. Horses for courses etc.
My point is that any OS/distro/flavour can be easy. Easy is relative to the situation and the user.
Though, I do have a Thinkpad 380D running a stable modern GUI and a full suite of modern apps that runs at a usable speed and is secure enough for general internet use. Was it easy to install? Relatively. But then I've installed OSs' onto thousands of machines. And in this case only one or two OSs' are capable of doing those things.
Most of my system builds are not completely straight forward - some frustatingly so (currently onto ARM machines) - but I don't go smashing the keyboard. I just try and learn from the experience, and provide useful feedback to the developers and support to other users.
Either a complete moron or lacking reading comprehension
Your opinions say nothing of me, and speak volumes of you
Of course you could put up a constructive point to support your argument - or continue, as I did, to use ridicule...
Free speech
"Free speech" requires rights - it's an American term, derived from a Bill of Rights (correct me if I'm wrong). Whereas here, in Australia, which is a "monarchiac democracy", we have NO Bill of Rights. Further, our Constitution only grants us "the right to free trade between states" - which is arguably not the case.
Doesn't that make them terrorists under the patriot act?
Just a guess - you're American right?
Officially Australian is NOT and American state
Just saying.
Being an idiot doesn't disqualify him from influence - quite the reverse. Logic is an ineffective argument with him.
Who can possibly save them? Maybe... batman...
Clearly, you don't know our history. Batman "discovered" Victoria (while the French were trying to find water in Westernport). Bought it from the locals for beads and mirrors.
Bit like Manhattan really. The natives got the better end of the deal.
Yeah, I know how could he discover an occupied land? Go figure - didn't Christopher Columbus discover America - oh wait, was it Eric The Red, no, um, wasn't it already occupied
Back on thread - In Canberra today....
Volante and CSG onsite techs at Parliament House and Group Eight sites are flat out dealing with complaints about lack of access to youtube, Google Earth, youporn.... ;-p
Go Windows! Ra!
Go Industrial Light and Magic!
Go Blender
Go /.
Go Crash Bang
;-p
Love your work, keep it up. Time I bought a new boat - kingfish are running. Think I'll name the new one "Windows 7".
You probably *think* "Where do you want to be tomorrow" is, uh, installing Office, etc, etc, etc, then next week installing updates, antivirus.
I call fanboy.
Not as funny as a video of the support tech smashing the smashed keyboard of the arseclowns' head!
Of course it's not my place to criticize your social interactions
I call them weasel words.
Of course, you are right sir. Slashdot is not the appropriate forum for criticism.
Lets all have a big group hug and do each others hair
Juvenile of me right?
As apposed to "condescending" sharp thingie??
All you have to do is open up a terminal window and enter these twelve 12 cryptic commands
My mother (in her eighties) bought a netbook with Linux pre-installed for Xmas. She's never used a computer before. She's been emailing me since New Years (stop it mum - one email a day is heaps). Command-line? She doesn't know what a terminal window is... Like "Ubuntu" is the end all and be all of Linux. Like if the install doesn't support your video card out of the box you can't just choose a vga install option.
If Linux was as hard as you make out, uh, duh - google, the net, and this site would never have come into existence
P.S. Did you know Homer Simpson is "satire".
If at first you don't succeed - give up
That's no excuse for the OS to be difficult to install and configure properly.
Which kind of sounds like you think you have a "right" to an easier experience... How's that? Where's my paycheck? Dude??
(not my quote) Ubuntu - African word for "Debian is too-oo hard"
Our *expert* meant Idiot Talking.
Typical Linux install for average desktop user -- (1) install on machine, (2) boot to gui in wrong resolution or sometimes get kicked to command line, (3) spend time fixing monitor detection, video drivers, etc., perhaps involving recompiling kernel if you're unlucky, (4) hopefully get to reasonably working gui, (5) start trying to get other hardware working, (6) after some basic troubleshooting fails, spend hours searching in linux forums for someone with a similar configuration, (7) try out 2 or 3 solutions to the bugs you're encountering until you get the hardware to work for every hardware item that doesn't work, (8) even after everything seems to work, deal with intermittent sound problems, codec issues when playing various media types, problems with plugins to view the most common internet sites, etc., and (9) eventually give up after a weekend with a system that has about 75% functionality of what the average desktop user wants (browsing, email, basic multimedia playing, etc.).
I suppose you think you are cool 'cause you just bought a body shirt to match your safari suit - and you've got one of those new colour televison sets
No offense meant to morons - we all know we can't offend anyone. And "good Samaritan" is an insult (do-gooder). Hey everyone stay back for two years in schools so the lazy ones don't feel left behind - oh wait - that's not fair for pinheads - better pass them anyway.
Duh - no wonder the mentally challenged tend to champion the "evolution is a lie" campaign.