...same country created (after they liberated the natives) by people fleeing persecution in Europe. Those Pilgrims were having other peoples views stuffed down their throats, and, and, - hang on isn't modern China the free state created after it threw off the shackles of... Aw, hell I live in Australia and I'm not koori... (puts bucket on head and starts shouting).
mea culpa. I was simply trying to save my mod points for things other than "off-topic".
Topic being: Australia, ISPs, downloads, pirating.
The AFP (with AFACT and ASTRA) has made a number of big busts since 2004 for counterfeit DVDs,CDs (and decoder cards). And yes, the people charged were making significant amounts of money from selling the fakes at markets and online.
In 2008, state and federal police conducted 51 raids involving movie piracy and seized 544,697 pirated DVDs. They also seized 488 burners capable of producing 12 million pirated DVDs a year with a potential street value of over $61million.
Police will allege that the movie and music DVDs were imported from various countries, including China, Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia, Bangladesh, Singapore, India and the United States.
Try www.afp.gov.au for publicly available data on arrests for breaches of the Copyright Act 1968.
Someone who worked for the Computer Crime Unit might tell you that to date only one person has been charged for breach of copyright (IP Crime) who made money from the exercise *and* used the internet to commit those crimes - and that those charges were dropped... cough MP3 WMA land cough In that particular case the DVDs had been imported from Malaysia.
I say again - none of the people that iinet was asked to assist in the prosecution of, indeed any Australian ISP to-date, have been accused of profiting from the alleged crime! Profitable Piracy is a fact - but it is barely related to "illegal downloads". There is a huge difference between money that the copyright holders claims they should have been paid, and what the downloaders made.
For more information please contact the "authorised" AFP spokesperson Stephen Simpson (02) 9286 4819 (Australia)
I can't count how many video rental stores got shut down in my city alone a few years ago when there was a big crackdown for pirating movies and renting them Every so often, I still hear about the odd new one getting shut down, in the greater metropolitan area where I live... and that's just one region. Without any doubt it's happening elsewhere too. Yes, pirates earn money. Not all of them, of course... but some.
That is an assertion - your belief. Not proof. I don't doubt what you are saying. Nor do I see any relationship between media reports of dvd rental companies being shutdown for *downloading* copyrighted content. Not one. Yes - running off copies - but no to downloading. Ditto with the big Asian busts last year.
The real point, I think, is not how much money pirates can make by pirating movies as much as it is how little some content producers (non-**aa affiliated) make, because they end up competing with pirates who have made their work available for a lower cost than the original producer of the content, and as a result, the pirate can easily make more money than the content producer.
"Can make" and "do make" are substantially different. For all the people that iinet was accused of allowing to download copyrighted material - how many were making money from the activity? Ditto with GB. The AFP did an investigation early last year into allegations of large scale downloading and retailing of copyrighted movies and music. They could find no evidence to support the claims. Are the AFP less competent the *IAA?? There has been seizures of pirated material in Australia - of CDs and DVDs that were pressed in Thailand. Again no evidence of "downloading".
How come only one other poster has come close to stating the truth.
It's not about Conroy. He's just a puppet. Every other available choice in our (Australian) politics is corrupted and driven by the same group. Pentecostal Assemblies of God, and all the other names that they use.
This view is immoral and greedy. I know this view point is not popular here - often with good reason when you consider the behavior of copyright holders. BUT, when the pirates downloading copyrighted content earn more money than the creators (as occurs with many eBooks for example), then the people enjoying that content have a moral obligation to ensure that the creators of the content are paid at least something for it.
pirates earn money.....
Please provide non-RIAA proof of this - that brush seems mighty broad
I'm sorry. I'm Australian. I too apologize for our government.
The government that we, voting Australians, voted into office.
I sincerely apologize to the world, for my fellow Australians who are either too apathetic, or too stupidly self-interested, to put the right people and policies into government.
Parties and candidates get elected.
Policies are determined by Parties need for a majority.
When you vote (if you do) you determine the candidate for that election *and you influence* the *next* election agenda.
To the "arseclowns" who are not Australian, and would propose how we Australians should do things - it's pressure from non-Australian interest that set the copyright agenda.
PS. Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels - so bite me.
Someone who has used more than one OS: Microsoft sucks. Someone (fanboy) who has only used Windows(TM): Linux/BSD/HURD sucks.
Peggy Mann: There's so much we don't know (and we wish to remain ignorant until we can prove a negative). RIAA: What about the starving musicians. Me: I need more coffee.
From my read of this (and if I'm wrong, please point me to the correct information), even someone who previously had not so much as had a traffic ticket could be convicted under this law. That is unacceptable in a country which claims it supports basic rights such as freedom of speech and expression.
You insensitive clod! I live in Australia, we have only one legal right here - our constitution allows us the right to "free trade between states". Period.
What are you smoking? Where is the rest of it??
Oh - you want proof ? Try the "australian constitution" (hint - we have no bill of rights).
P.S. Technically (no offense intended) people who make ignorant statements about our Monarchaic Democracy are "arseclowns".
Proxy? What proxy? I can buy a 3G modem of reliably dubious origin for $20
1. Change my browser agent to Red Dragon
2. Visit ****http://www.scientology.org****
3. Repeat step 2. until knowledge and wisdom acquired (or wget if busy).
4. Setup "Chinese Democracy/Cheap Tibet" Facebook account
5. Decorate site (sic) with hotmail addresses of scientology senior members (big supporters of free speech and progress)
6. Invite scientology members to be my facebook friends
7. Post my Backstreet Boys and Boy George album torrents on Piratebay
8. dyndns, urlshortening services (route traffic to ****http://www.scientology.org****)
9. post a few badly worded (easily misinterpreted) posts on usenet (generate traffic)
10. Bored already (and I'm not even smart)
"hijacks"??
Not unless you've redefined the meaning of "hijack";-p It's a JOKE site (the homepage link) sport. An "educational" joke site - it will not harm or hijack your computer.
The point of the post is that if (I don't) offered such an anonymizing proxy service for people wishing to avoid Google collecting their data - there is nothing to stop me: collecting their data; misusing that data; etc;
That can be done at a software level (network or application) or hardware.
As numerous other posters have pointed out - their are better (tor, freenet, firefox plugins etc) methods of doing so.
The *hosting* is just as critical as the *protocol/mechanism*.
I offer the same service - and more. I'll route your google/msn/yahoo/windows live/banking/ebay through tor for you.
You can inspect the code for my tor client and proxy (Open Source of course).
Hell I'll even offer SSL and HTTPS - both ways.
Opt out on the banking data too!
Your idea have both merit and originality. Unfortunately the bits that have merit are unoriginal, and the bits that have originality have no merit.
Good luck attempting to get n00b Ubuntu ('cause Debian is tooo hard) users to install your "malware" - given that so many of them think cli is some sort of "G" spot.
Is your exploit driven by the availability heuristic?? Leaving aside the chances of your exploits "wising up" the world (get down off the cross, we need the wood) I am reminded of the saying that the "empty mactchbox makes the most noise". Google gives "Results 1 - 10 of about 1,780 for "I was fed up with the general consensus that Linux is oh-so-secure and has no malware."
del./r>null
PS. If you find you can't unlock your C:, try "" as a password (without the quotes)
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It's too hard... Mummy (it burns)
...same country created (after they liberated the natives) by people fleeing persecution in Europe. Those Pilgrims were having other peoples views stuffed down their throats, and, and, - hang on isn't modern China the free state created after it threw off the shackles of... Aw, hell I live in Australia and I'm not koori... (puts bucket on head and starts shouting).
Hasn't NASA just changed their policy on private development? Now they can just buy shuttles and stuff from China - just don't lick the paint!
amassed a personal wealth of more than $3 million US while betraying his adopted country.
Sounds like he was living the American dream (get rich)
Oh right, behind Pedobear.
Mod up as informative and concise. Please! (I'm out of points).
The AFP (with AFACT and ASTRA) has made a number of big busts since 2004 for counterfeit DVDs,CDs (and decoder cards). And yes, the people charged were making significant amounts of money from selling the fakes at markets and online.
In 2008, state and federal police conducted 51 raids involving movie piracy and seized 544,697 pirated DVDs. They also seized 488 burners capable of producing 12 million pirated DVDs a year with a potential street value of over $61million.
Police will allege that the movie and music DVDs were imported from various countries, including China, Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia, Bangladesh, Singapore, India and the United States.
Try www.afp.gov.au for publicly available data on arrests for breaches of the Copyright Act 1968.
Someone who worked for the Computer Crime Unit might tell you that to date only one person has been charged for breach of copyright (IP Crime) who made money from the exercise *and* used the internet to commit those crimes - and that those charges were dropped... cough MP3 WMA land cough In that particular case the DVDs had been imported from Malaysia.
Hence the current investigation targeting and resources is based on this http://www.google.com/search?q=cache%3A7YlbuZ5-fvcJ%3Awww.afp.gov.au%2F__data%2Fassets%2Fpdf_file%2F74895%2FFS_Impact_on_the_global_economy.pdf+pirate+site%3Aafp.gov.au&hl=en
I say again - none of the people that iinet was asked to assist in the prosecution of, indeed any Australian ISP to-date, have been accused of profiting from the alleged crime! Profitable Piracy is a fact - but it is barely related to "illegal downloads". There is a huge difference between money that the copyright holders claims they should have been paid, and what the downloaders made.
For more information please contact the "authorised" AFP spokesperson Stephen Simpson (02) 9286 4819 (Australia)
Sincerely, Someone Who Doesn't Work For The AFP
I can't count how many video rental stores got shut down in my city alone a few years ago when there was a big crackdown for pirating movies and renting them Every so often, I still hear about the odd new one getting shut down, in the greater metropolitan area where I live... and that's just one region. Without any doubt it's happening elsewhere too. Yes, pirates earn money. Not all of them, of course... but some.
That is an assertion - your belief. Not proof. I don't doubt what you are saying. Nor do I see any relationship between media reports of dvd rental companies being shutdown for *downloading* copyrighted content. Not one. Yes - running off copies - but no to downloading. Ditto with the big Asian busts last year.
The real point, I think, is not how much money pirates can make by pirating movies as much as it is how little some content producers (non-**aa affiliated) make, because they end up competing with pirates who have made their work available for a lower cost than the original producer of the content, and as a result, the pirate can easily make more money than the content producer.
"Can make" and "do make" are substantially different. For all the people that iinet was accused of allowing to download copyrighted material - how many were making money from the activity? Ditto with GB. The AFP did an investigation early last year into allegations of large scale downloading and retailing of copyrighted movies and music. They could find no evidence to support the claims. Are the AFP less competent the *IAA?? There has been seizures of pirated material in Australia - of CDs and DVDs that were pressed in Thailand. Again no evidence of "downloading".
Once again, please provide proof.
It's not about Conroy. He's just a puppet. Every other available choice in our (Australian) politics is corrupted and driven by the same group. Pentecostal Assemblies of God, and all the other names that they use.
Not much different from the US actually.
This view is immoral and greedy. I know this view point is not popular here - often with good reason when you consider the behavior of copyright holders. BUT, when the pirates downloading copyrighted content earn more money than the creators (as occurs with many eBooks for example), then the people enjoying that content have a moral obligation to ensure that the creators of the content are paid at least something for it.
pirates earn money.....
Please provide non-RIAA proof of this - that brush seems mighty broad
The government that we, voting Australians, voted into office.
I sincerely apologize to the world, for my fellow Australians who are either too apathetic, or too stupidly self-interested, to put the right people and policies into government.
Parties and candidates get elected. Policies are determined by Parties need for a majority.
When you vote (if you do) you determine the candidate for that election *and you influence* the *next* election agenda.
To the "arseclowns" who are not Australian, and would propose how we Australians should do things - it's pressure from non-Australian interest that set the copyright agenda.
PS. Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels - so bite me.
Piracy will stop, eventually. One way or another.
What, and we'll go back to the good old days when nobody ever took anything that wasn't theirs?
Well, no. It'll a be a New World Utopia. Yay! No more old people. Yummy Soylent Green.
Ktorrent -> Preferences -> General Options -> Custom IP = www.minister.dbcde.gov.au 203.9.222.73
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/02/04/1442214/Bill-Gates-Knows-What-You-Did-Last-Summer?art_pos=8
a boot stamping on your face forever.
Someone who has used more than one OS: Microsoft sucks. Someone (fanboy) who has only used Windows(TM): Linux/BSD/HURD sucks. Peggy Mann: There's so much we don't know (and we wish to remain ignorant until we can prove a negative). RIAA: What about the starving musicians. Me: I need more coffee.
From my read of this (and if I'm wrong, please point me to the correct information), even someone who previously had not so much as had a traffic ticket could be convicted under this law. That is unacceptable in a country which claims it supports basic rights such as freedom of speech and expression.
You insensitive clod! I live in Australia, we have only one legal right here - our constitution allows us the right to "free trade between states". Period. What are you smoking? Where is the rest of it?? Oh - you want proof ? Try the "australian constitution" (hint - we have no bill of rights). P.S. Technically (no offense intended) people who make ignorant statements about our Monarchaic Democracy are "arseclowns".
Maybe I was just naive in my youth.
Better living through chemicals?
Disables the constant Chinese connections too! ;-p
Proxy? What proxy? I can buy a 3G modem of reliably dubious origin for $20 1. Change my browser agent to Red Dragon 2. Visit ****http://www.scientology.org**** 3. Repeat step 2. until knowledge and wisdom acquired (or wget if busy). 4. Setup "Chinese Democracy/Cheap Tibet" Facebook account 5. Decorate site (sic) with hotmail addresses of scientology senior members (big supporters of free speech and progress) 6. Invite scientology members to be my facebook friends 7. Post my Backstreet Boys and Boy George album torrents on Piratebay 8. dyndns, urlshortening services (route traffic to ****http://www.scientology.org****) 9. post a few badly worded (easily misinterpreted) posts on usenet (generate traffic) 10. Bored already (and I'm not even smart)
"hijacks"?? Not unless you've redefined the meaning of "hijack";-p It's a JOKE site (the homepage link) sport. An "educational" joke site - it will not harm or hijack your computer. The point of the post is that if (I don't) offered such an anonymizing proxy service for people wishing to avoid Google collecting their data - there is nothing to stop me: collecting their data; misusing that data; etc; That can be done at a software level (network or application) or hardware. As numerous other posters have pointed out - their are better (tor, freenet, firefox plugins etc) methods of doing so. The *hosting* is just as critical as the *protocol/mechanism*.
I offer the same service - and more. I'll route your google/msn/yahoo/windows live/banking/ebay through tor for you. You can inspect the code for my tor client and proxy (Open Source of course). Hell I'll even offer SSL and HTTPS - both ways. Opt out on the banking data too!
Your idea have both merit and originality. Unfortunately the bits that have merit are unoriginal, and the bits that have originality have no merit. Good luck attempting to get n00b Ubuntu ('cause Debian is tooo hard) users to install your "malware" - given that so many of them think cli is some sort of "G" spot. Is your exploit driven by the availability heuristic?? Leaving aside the chances of your exploits "wising up" the world (get down off the cross, we need the wood) I am reminded of the saying that the "empty mactchbox makes the most noise". Google gives "Results 1 - 10 of about 1,780 for "I was fed up with the general consensus that Linux is oh-so-secure and has no malware." del./r>null PS. If you find you can't unlock your C:, try "" as a password (without the quotes)